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S01.E19: Snitch v Deadbeat

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proserpina65

proserpina65

5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Last week Jim is angry at Mandy for wasting $200 on a spa day. This week Jim wastes $1,200 on gambling. Make up your mind, show. Anyway the whole thing was painful. 

To be fair, Jim can afford to lose the money.  He was only suggesting paying it in small installments to keep Audrey from finding out.  Whereas Mandy really shouldn't be wasting so much money on things like spa days because she has a huge credit card debt.

But I agree that this episode was painful and unfunny.

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Prairie Rose

Prairie Rose

17 hours ago, highway61 said:

Ugh, never a fan of the gambling storyline in 'Young Sheldon' and it has not grown on me. What was supposed to be the funny or heart-warming part?

Agreed. The gambling storyline had me largely tuning out those last couple of seasons of YS, and it's not fun on this show, either. Can't they think of anything else for Meemaw to do?

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MollyMelrose

MollyMelrose

Genuinely enjoyed last week's episode and the Connor/Chloe episode and was hoping the powers that be had finally figured things out. This episode was a couple miles of steps back. 

Do not find it remotely funny that Connie willingly and enthusiastically breaks the law. Gambling is an addictive behavior for far too many people, one that destroys individuals, marriages, and families. Can't help but wonder what Connie would do if confronted by a hard core bookie with genuine enforcers, not pleased that she is cutting into his action.

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Dimity

Dimity

10 hours ago, appositival said:

Was that one $1200 bet, or has this been a growing problem?

The episode made it seem to me that the betting has been on going and that he has lost before but never that much at one time.  Whether he can afford to lose that much money wasn't really touched on, just that he didn't want Audrey to know about it.

Which brings me to the only part of this stinker of an episode that I liked, when Jim told Audrey he would never want a divorce and she responded "Oh honey I would never let you off that easy".  Loved that line and the look on her face.

Otherwise here we go again with Ma Barker the Bookie.  Are we supposed to find this funny? 

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Dimity

Dimity

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9 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

Whereas Mandy really shouldn't be wasting so much money on things like spa days because she has a huge credit card debt.

On the other hand, as Mandy pointed out, at least she has a "closet full of shoes and purses" to show for that credit card debt! 

I'm not defending someone spending more than they can afford on shoes and purses but I also don't think someone who has to gamble (and they seemed to be showing that Jim does have a bit of a gambling problem when he even wanted to watch someone bet - that was a little creepy and a little sad) is in any position to preach fiscal responsibility to someone else!  

At least Mandy is working on paying off her debt and a one off at a spa, paid for with 'bonus' money  hardly equals continuing to rack up credit card debt.  I have a bad feeling that they're setting up Jim for financial problems because of his gambling.  I really hope I'm wrong.

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Yeah No

Yeah No

10 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

To be fair, Jim can afford to lose the money.  He was only suggesting paying it in small installments to keep Audrey from finding out.  Whereas Mandy really shouldn't be wasting so much money on things like spa days because she has a huge credit card debt.

But I agree that this episode was painful and unfunny.

Can he afford to lose that kind of money? We really don't know. It's at the very least hypocritical and a double standard for him to be upset with Mandy, who's at least getting something for her money when he's just throwing his away.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

On the other hand, as Mandy pointed out, at least she has a "closet full of shoes and purses" to show for that credit card debt! 

I'm not defending someone spending more than they can afford on shoes and purses but I also don't think someone who has to gamble (and they seemed to be showing that Jim does have a bit of a gambling problem when he even wanted to watch someone bet - that was a little creepy and a little sad) is in any position to preach fiscal responsibility to someone else!  

At least Mandy is working on paying off her debt and a one off at a spa, paid for with 'bonus' money  hardly equals continuing to rack up credit card debt.  I have a bad feeling that they're setting up Jim for financial problems because of his gambling.  I really hope I'm wrong.

Thank you. This. Every word of it.

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Katy M

Katy M

When Dale is the most right in an episode (by saying she shouldn't take bets from family), you know you have an issue.

Everyone getting mad at Georgie for solving the problem was ridiculous.  Jim made the bet, so it has to be paid.  I know it wasn't Audrey, it was her husband, but still, partaking in illegal acitivities and then whining to the police about them is the height of hypocrisy. And while I'm all for honesty in marriage, i really don't have muh of a problem with Georgie hiding money from Mandy.  She's been shown to not be the best with finances.

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Dimity

Dimity

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32 minutes ago, Katy M said:

And while I'm all for honesty in marriage, i really don't have muh of a problem with Georgie hiding money from Mandy.  She's been shown to not be the best with finances.

Yet another tidbit they took straight from Big Bang Theory.  Leonard has a secret bank account because he doesn't trust Penny with money, even though they take enormous pains to inform us that Penny earns a significantly higher salary than Leonard does.  But she's a girl amirite??

Same with Mandy, she has high credit card debt, yes, but this was from when she was single without a child.  We've been given no reason to think she's still racking up that debt and in fact is working two jobs to pay it down.

But anyway all that aside, how much money is Jim paying Georgie that he can afford to have a secret bank account that Mandy knows nothing about?  Piffle!

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bad things are bad

bad things are bad

On 5/2/2025 at 5:40 PM, MollyMelrose said:

Gambling is an addictive behavior for far too many people, one that destroys individuals, marriages, and families. Can't help but wonder what Connie would do if confronted by a hard core bookie with genuine enforcers, not pleased that she is cutting into his action.

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Clearly it wasn't sponsored by Draftkings or Fanduel 😀.

You are sadly very right about gambling and now it's ubiquitous.  

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

how much money is Jim paying Georgie that he can afford to have a secret bank account that Mandy knows nothing about?

Are we supposed to assume Georgie’s secret stash was what was left over from his casino winnings after he bought jewelry for Mandy?
Or maybe it will be revealed that Georgie and Jim have been going regularly?

ams1001

ams1001

3 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Are we supposed to assume Georgie’s secret stash was what was left over from his casino winnings after he bought jewelry for Mandy?
Or maybe it will be revealed that Georgie and Jim have been going regularly?

Could be. Or he could just put a little bit out of each paycheck in a savings account. Even 20 bucks a week (plus interest) adds up and it's not an amount Mandy's likely to notice.

 

2 hours ago, bad things are bad said:

Clearly it wasn't sponsored by Draftkings or Fanduel 😀.

You are sadly very right about gambling and now it's ubiquitous.  

Have you ever seen The Daily Show's "Sports War" segments? "Brought to you by Gambling!"

 

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Dimity

Dimity

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3 hours ago, bad things are bad said:

Clearly it wasn't sponsored by Draftkings or Fanduel 😀.

You are sadly very right about gambling and now it's ubiquitous.  

This is what is bothering me about Connie the bookie and Jim the, apparently, chronic gambler. This wasn't someone having a little fun.  Reminded me of the YS episode with Connie and Ray Liotta.

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possibilities

possibilities

So Mandy can spend money at the spa without consulting anyone, but Georgie can't spend money to pay Jim's debt and keep his side of the family from going to war? 

What I object to most is that the show seems to find bickering funny. It makes me dislike everyone on the show, except theya re clearly building Georgie up to be the only adult in the room, which also annoys me. I mean, he's very likable! But it annoys me that they're building him up by making everyone else a pain in the ass.

Actually, Connor is at least not a hostile, bickering kind of person. He's easy-going and basically stays out of trouble. But, of course, there is the issue of how he's not got any responsibilities, so he also has no stress.

 

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Dimity

Dimity

24 minutes ago, possibilities said:

So Mandy can spend money at the spa without consulting anyone, but Georgie can't spend money to pay Jim's debt and keep his side of the family from going to war? 

i wasn't sure how to feel about Saint Georgie stepping up to Save the Day.  To be honest I didn't blame Jim for being angry.  I'd like to see him just as angry BTW that Georgie has a secret bank account that he is hiding from everyone rather than paying rent or paying down Mandy's debt.  But they didn't really touch on that.  It was a very rushed ending.  Like you said, just lots of bickering and everyone mad  at everyone else.

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possibilities

possibilities

I find real life stressful enough, I don't really get why seeing people fight and be petty and irritable and unkind to each other is entertaining. 

I thought the moral conflict this episode could have been worth using as a plot driver. Connie and Jim both like to gamble. Maybe they both have a problem. Or maybe there's another way Jim can pay off his debt. I don't know. But the way they played it, it just wasn't funny.

And Audrey was seriously willing to send Meemaw to jail to save $1200. How much more do they plan to escalate the tensions between the families, and is that going to be fun to watch?

I didn't catch that Georgie paid the debt with hidden money. I thought he took it out of the joint account he and Mandy share. It wasn't great-- but nobody else seemed to want to solve the problem, and we saw everybody else does stuff without consulting anybody, so I gave him a pass. Also, Audrey is full of shit if she suddenly thinks keeping secrets is against the marriage rules, because a few eps ago she told Mandy that she and Jim lie to each other about his "business trips" and she likes it that way. She knows he goes to a casino, so she can shut up about her moral snit.

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Katy M

Katy M

14 hours ago, Dimity said:

I'd like to see him just as angry BTW that Georgie has a secret bank account that he is hiding from everyone rather than paying rent or paying down Mandy's debt.

he can't both refuse to take rent and be mad that Georgie's not paying it. That's unreasonable.  Paying down debt is good, but also is having a little bit of cash for an emergency.  With the possible exception of not letting Mandy in on it, Georgie did nothing wrong.

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Dimity

Dimity

33 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Well, maybe they made a deal that they each get $25 out of their paychecks each week to do with as they pleased and Georgie decided to save his.  No lie in that case.

I think we all give this show way more thought than the writers do!  Basically I am going to assume they spend most of their time in the writers room rehashing old plots from YS and BBT and figuring out arguments and disagreements for each episode.

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Yeah No

7 hours ago, Dimity said:

I think we all give this show way more thought than the writers do!  Basically I am going to assume they spend most of their time in the writers room rehashing old plots from YS and BBT and figuring out arguments and disagreements for each episode.

Yes, and it's lazy writing and not very good as a rehash either. Neither Georgie nor Mandy were my idea of appealing characters on which to base a sequel. Neither one is that interesting separately or together. It's pretty sad when the most interesting thing they can make them do is have yawn-inducing conflicts.

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shapeshifter

shapeshifter

21 hours ago, Katy M said:

Well, maybe they made a deal that they each get $25 out of their paychecks each week to do with as they pleased and Georgie decided to save his.  No lie in that case.

I must've missed or forgotten that line.
Is this something the writers are counting on viewers recalling?
I wasn't morally outraged by Georgie secretly saving money — perhaps due to his extreme devotion to his family — but it did surprise me. 

Dimity

Dimity

1 minute ago, shapeshifter said:

I must've missed or forgotten that line.

They never said that.  They didn't explain where the money came from or how much was in the account.  Someone upthread speculated it might have been Georgie's winnings from that time at the casino but I don't think so.   

It did seem like the writers expected us to believe that Saint Georgie/Mr. Responsible is putting aside a sum of money from each paycheque to keep it safe from Mandy.  Which is actually pretty insulting to her and I don't blame her for being angry.

Time will tell if this ever gets mentioned again.

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iarwain

iarwain

On 5/4/2025 at 12:27 PM, Katy M said:

Well, maybe they made a deal that they each get $25 out of their paychecks each week to do with as they pleased and Georgie decided to save his.  No lie in that case.

I was thinking that he was going to reveal that he had been saving that money up to buy Mandy a birthday present, or for Christmas presents for the family.  Can't really be mad about keeping that a secret.  

 

On 5/3/2025 at 9:35 PM, possibilities said:

Actually, Connor is at least not a hostile, bickering kind of person. He's easy-going and basically stays out of trouble. But, of course, there is the issue of how he's not got any responsibilities, so he also has no stress.

Connor irritates me with the way he stands at the kitchen counter and eats.  I guess maybe that's his idea of interacting, so maybe it's admirable that he wants some family time.  Of course, like Sheldon, they've never actually said he's on the spectrum, and likely won't, so I'm not really inclined to give him a pass on that basis.  

On the other hand, it doesn't appear that there is any room at the table for another seat.  I wonder if he ate at the table before Georgie (and Mandy) moved in?

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Dimity

Dimity

49 minutes ago, iarwain said:

Connor irritates me with the way he stands at the kitchen counter and eats. 

Connor just plain irritates me.  I know we're supposed to find him quirky and off beat.  But to me he's just annoying.  I can't get past the fact that he's a 26 yr old man who doesn't seem to have ever held  a job, and if he ever got any kind of post-secondary education I don't recall this every being mentioned, and who lives off his parents despite there being no obvious reason other than him being Audrey's favourite to explain this. 

 

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iarwain

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7 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Connor just plain irritates me.  I know we're supposed to find him quirky and off beat.  But to me he's just annoying.  I can't get past the fact that he's a 26 yr old man who doesn't seem to have ever held  a job, and if he ever got any kind of post-secondary education I don't recall this every being mentioned, and who lives off his parents despite there being no obvious reason other than him being Audrey's favourite to explain this. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one.  They seem to try to lay the blame for his behavior on to Audrey.  After all, the audience already dislikes her, so why not, right?  But doesn't he have any self motivation?  Or sense of responsibility?  

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iarwain

iarwain

13 minutes ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

I often see an empty seat at the table.  It's big enough for 6.

Really?  I don't recall that.  Here's a clip of them eating dinner.  I suppose you could squeeze a few more people in there, but it seems like it would be crowded.  Seems like they've had Mary over for supper though.  I wonder if there's another leaf they can put in the table?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgFWRkqY0Y

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ItCouldBeWorse

ItCouldBeWorse

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23 hours ago, iarwain said:

Really?  I don't recall that.  Here's a clip of them eating dinner.  I suppose you could squeeze a few more people in there, but it seems like it would be crowded.  Seems like they've had Mary over for supper though.  I wonder if there's another leaf they can put in the table?

This was bothering me, because I remember noticing a 5th (empty) chair at the table at least once, so I went back to last week's episode (the one where George & Mandy pay rent), and clearly at 13:57 and again at 14:47 on the CBS website, there is an empty chair to Audrey's right.  She is sitting across from Georgie on one of the longer sides of the oval table, with the camera behind her, while Jim and Mandy are sitting at the more rounded narrow sides (the head and foot).

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