S01.E15: 9:00 P.M.

[RunningMarket]

57 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

He scared the hell out of me in Animal Kingdom. Great actor.

He's such a hot mess for much of SouthLAnd (an incredible and underrated show). It was almost funny to see him play such a stable and authoritative character.

[Sarah 103]

5 hours ago, circumvent said:

He s not lashing out at everyone, but only at Robby. We could go through all the psychology of why this happens but I do think it was pretty bratty of him.

In the moment, Jake needs to be mad at someone. He can't be mad at Leah because she's dead. He needs someone to blame, and Robby is the easiest, most convenient target. What will determine if Jake is a brat or not is how he deals with his grief going forward. Is he able to apologize to Robby at the funeral or maybe later on? Does he blame Robby and treat him horribly for the rest of his life? We probably won't know the answer.

If Jake has dealt with his grief and found a way to deal with it in a healthy manner and is able to have a decent relationship with Robby in the future, then Jake is not a brat. 

[leighdear]

1 hour ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

He scared the hell out of me in Animal Kingdom. Great actor.

Oh lord, "Pope" was a stone cold psychopath.  But such a GREAT role, Sean was excellent in that. 

Very underrated actor, I think he's been very choosy about his roles.  I agree, he was really good in "Southland" too. 

Edited April 13 by leighdear

[JeanJean]

31 minutes ago, leighdear said:

Oh lord, "Pope" was a stone cold psychopath.  But such a GREAT role, Sean was excellent in that. 

Very underrated actor, I think he's been very choosy about his roles.  I agree, he was really good in "Southland" too. 

He has a certain way of nodding and every time he does it as Abbott, I think, "That's Jack in 'In and Out'!" Same nod.

[Racj82]

8 hours ago, leighdear said:

The problem I had with the Whittaker/Santos scene is that it copies the "Grey's Anatomy" scene where Richard caught Callie Torres dancing in her underwear in an unused area of the hospital basement where she was squatting.  She then moved into Meredith's house with George.  

Cribbing old material from "ER" is one thing.  Taking it from "Grey's" is poor taste and lazy. 

You can choose to look at it that way but the reality is that most med students and residents are broke. So they sleep where they can.

Also rebuke anytime someone says a show or movie is obviously stealing from this and that. You could never have seen a minute of Grey's and come up with a med students living one of the many rooms of a hospital to save money.

The same way people could say that Santos is nothing but a gender swapped Alex Karev from Grey's. Smart ass/ wanting the big case doctors exist on basically every medical show. Because they exist in real life.

[Sarah 103]

34 minutes ago, Racj82 said:

Also rebuke anytime someone says a show or movie is obviously stealing from this and that.

What I love is when people can agree it's not original, but no one can agree on what the original was. In aTop Gun: Maverick forum, there was general agreement that the big mission was based on the trench run from Star Wars: A New Hope, and that Lucas's movie didn't invent the trench run type mission. There were around half a dozen different suggestions for which old war movie Lucas used for inspiration. 

Also, @leighdear (and others) comparing The Pitt to other medical shows should probably not be in the regular episode discussion. There's another thread just for that kind of discussion. It's called Compare & Contrast: The Pitt vs Other Medical Shows. 

 

[circumvent]

9 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

What will determine if Jake is a brat or not is how he deals with his grief going forward.

Actually, what  determines that is each person's opinion about the situation based on what we know. And my opinion differs. I am also ok never knowing what happens the next day or months. I hope next season, or season, are original and that there is no revisiting or remembering that one day, as tragic as it was. 

[iMonrey]

19 hours ago, circumvent said:

I disagree. He s not lashing out at everyone, but only at Robby. We could go through all the psychology of why this happens but I do think it was pretty bratty of him. I can imagine many other types of reactions in the same situation that would convey the same grief and what I take away has to do with a person's personality. Since there is little information about Jake - and I am fine with not knowing it - it is a matter of opinion if he was bratty or not.

It doesn't actually make a lot of sense for him to lash out at Robbie this way and it speaks to the status of their relationship. He must not actually think much of Robbie or feel very close to him to blame him for his girlfriend's death. It's irrational. I understand he's emotional but if a doctor was unable to save a loved one of mine after some crazed gunman had shot her, I wouldn't blame the doctor. And that's a doctor I don't even know, let alone one I consider a close friend or even a father figure. Jake isn't that young. He's not a small child.

[marceline]

So much to digest but first…welcome back Myrna! Nice outfit!

I found it weird how people kept asking if Robby was okay. Of course not. None of them have been good since Amber’s death and that makes perfect sense. That’s when everything started to unravel then the shooting happened.

The scene with Robby and Abbott on the roof was amazing performance by both actors. The way Wyle played Robby just twitching from all the emotions he was feeling because he couldn’t even look Abbott in the eye. Then Abbott slowly brought him back out of that headspace to the point where Robby could start making slight jokes. Watching this made me think about Incel David and the “male loneliness epidemic.” We’d be a much healthier culture if men would actually talk to each other about their emotions. Abbott trying to recommend his therapist was nice. I assume he’s active with the VA.

If the show thinks I’m interested in a redemption arc for Santos they are sadly mistaken. The fact that she even started following Whitaker pissed me off. I never need to see her again.

Langdon is definitely an addict. The way he lashed out at Robby was textbook addict behavior. I’ve been Team Langdon all along and I still am but  he clearly needs treatment. I suspect part of the reason he was so aggressive with Robby is because he’s in withdrawal.

As for Jake, I’ll just say I’m glad for the time jump so we don’t have to keep watching Jake be abusive to Robby.

That little scene of them in the park was a really nice way to end the season. When Robby started laughing at how it was their first day of work, I felt that.

 

[anna0852]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

It doesn't actually make a lot of sense for him to lash out at Robbie this way and it speaks to the status of their relationship. He must not actually think much of Robbie or feel very close to him to blame him for his girlfriend's death. It's irrational. I understand he's emotional but if a doctor was unable to save a loved one of mine after some crazed gunman had shot her, I wouldn't blame the doctor. And that's a doctor I don't even know, let alone one I consider a close friend or even a father figure. Jake isn't that young. He's not a small child.

17 is still a child. It is well documented that brains don’t finish developing until the mid 20s. And it is child psychology 101 that kids lash out at the people they feel safe with. 

[circumvent]

3 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

17 is still a child. It is well documented that brains don’t finish developing until the mid 20s. And it is child psychology 101 that kids lash out at the people they feel safe with. 

While your statement is factual, the point made is that Jake is not a "small child". He is legally, child, brain is not fully developed. But he can drive, he got condoms from different people, he was not treated like a little kid at all. On the contrary, he was treated as a responsible young man who can make smart decisions. 

As for the psychology, in a situation like a mass shooting, all theory goes out the window. I can understand Jake being upset and even lash out at any doctor who could not save his girlfriend but he had one hour (I know, not a lot) to sit there, he was with his mom, everyone was giving him all the love. It could have been that he refused to talk, turn his back, but not bring out the first moment of shock and grief back.

And once again, while I think the writing was a bit over the top, I am pretty sure it was there to put more of the day stress on Robby's shoulders. The story was about Robby, the consequences of everything on him, on that specific day, and it worked to emphasize the burden he had carried all day, and how he could not really solve anything, driving him to a short moment of contemplative desperation. 

As long as we don't have to revisit this story, I am fine with it.

[bybrandy]

On 4/11/2025 at 5:37 PM, meep.meep said:

I must have spent more time looking at the doctor's legs rather than at the gurneys, but I knew Abbott had a prosthetic foot.  It wasn't the big surprise that apparently many of you experienced.

I liked this episode, but thinking back on the whole series - there were two different emotionally distraught young men.  Did they both have to have floppy black hair covering their faces?

And was it necessary for all the anti-medicine mothers to be white?  One was definitely written as a Karen, but she could have been written so there was a reason why she was nervous about the spinal tap.  The way it was written was actually straight out of an ER episode.

For the record, I had chicken pox, measles, mumps, and diptheria growing up, vaccinated my kids for everything, and drove 30 miles to get my first COVID shot.  I agree with the message but thought they were unnecessarily heavy handed.

In my experience most of the anti-medicine moms are white. It takes a certain kind of privilege to think little Johnny won’t get sick because you use all organic cleaning supplies and can have an active sourdough starter. I have plenty of friends who are crunchy granola and non-white but the non-white ones are vaccinated. 

[Racj82]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

It doesn't actually make a lot of sense for him to lash out at Robbie this way and it speaks to the status of their relationship. He must not actually think much of Robbie or feel very close to him to blame him for his girlfriend's death. It's irrational. I understand he's emotional but if a doctor was unable to save a loved one of mine after some crazed gunman had shot her, I wouldn't blame the doctor. And that's a doctor I don't even know, let alone one I consider a close friend or even a father figure. Jake isn't that young. He's not a small child.

Not really. People will lash out at whoever while stressed, upset, panick, etc.

There are also tons of kids that will throw the you are not my real .... when they are angry. Its the price you possibly take when you take on a parental type role to kiss.

Ironically, i feel like if Jake had saw his full breakdown, he would cut him some slack. He shouldn't have lashed out anyway but emotions were high. A lot of arguments on this day wouldn't have happened on a lesser day.

[Irlandesa]

Trauma doesn't go away after an hour.  Robby's still dealing with his and lashing out five years later. I can see why Jake still didn't react well, especially since Robby said something that indicated he thought he could have saved her if there weren't so many other people.  We know that's likely not the case but Jake doesn't.  He also probably feels guilty since he's the one who got the tickets and brought her to the festival she wouldn't have been at if not for him.

On 4/11/2025 at 5:37 PM, meep.meep said:

And was it necessary for all the anti-medicine mothers to be white?  One was definitely written as a Karen, but she could have been written so there was a reason why she was nervous about the spinal tap. 

Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I feel like all the big time obstacles to doing what they needed to do were white women.  First it was with the dad with pneumonia and dementia.  Then it was the mother of the son who had an overdose.  And now the spinal tap woman. 

It became a bit of a pattern.

[bybrandy]

On 4/12/2025 at 5:14 AM, circumvent said:

Couldn't stand Langdon. He can have all the explanations for what he did, still not excusable and he needs to just shut up and do the treatment, accept the monitoring and stop bugging people like a spoiled child would do

He’s in denial. He is going to say and do whatever he needs to say or do to make it seem like he’s not in as bad a shape as he is. His drug use isn’t a problem?  Oh, okay, well then I’m not the only one with a problem. 
 

It so reminded me of my dad coming home from rehab and telling me that the doctors didn’t know what to think of him because he wasn’t an alcoholic he just couldn’t stop drinking when he started. 7 years old and I knew that it was bs. And a few years later being furious when I found a beer at his house and him telling me he wasn’t drinking really he was just seeing if he could drink and stop now. I was so afraid he was going to lose custody and so angry that he’d risk that. 
 

Langdon has a problem and he’s is going to lash out at anybody who tries to make him confront that problem until he’s ready to confront it himself. Yes he should just shut up and go to rehab but addicts are can’t see beyond their addiction to see that. That is what makes them addicts. 
 

On 4/12/2025 at 5:14 AM, circumvent said:

Jake is young but not so young that he needed to treat Robby like that. His mother had been there for a while, she could have helped him with the healing process and this includes not blaming Robby, but the shooter. emotions aside, even in unimaginable circumstances, reason doesn't completely disappear, and he had support and love from everyone. That was bratty but I guess they needed it to make Robby feel the weight of the day even more.

At what age do people begin to be not so young that they can process that kind of trauma in a matter of minutes. Jake’s girlfriend was murdered in front of him. He’s a kid he’s in the car with her bleeding all over him and he’s trying to keep pressure on the wound because he knows that is what he’s supposed to do but he is terrified. 
 

Then the girl dies and he’s taken to see the body which is a lot! And Robby is having his breakdown in that moment and lashes out at the kid at the same time as trying to give comfort which is super confusing. 

 

And his mom has been there long enough to redirect his feelings?  His mom turned up in episode 14. His mom has been there for an hour and change. That’s asking his mom to do a hell of a lot of therapy work in a matter of minutes. 
 

He’s a kid and he’s angry and he’s scared and he lashed out at Robby and yes narritively it is to make Robby feel worse and more issolated. And it is something Jake’s gonna feel pretty bad about soon too. But it isn’t weird or unusual behavior or proof that this kid is a bad kid. This kid is just a kid having a trauma response aimed in the direction of another character having a trauma response. 
 

 

[bybrandy]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

It doesn't actually make a lot of sense for him to lash out at Robbie this way and it speaks to the status of their relationship. He must not actually think much of Robbie or feel very close to him to blame him for his girlfriend's death. It's irrational. I understand he's emotional but if a doctor was unable to save a loved one of mine after some crazed gunman had shot her, I wouldn't blame the doctor. And that's a doctor I don't even know, let alone one I consider a close friend or even a father figure. Jake isn't that young. 

 

I was 20 when my dad had the heart attack that lead to his death when I was 21. I was that young. I lashed out at my virtual grandmother for moving my dad’s hat. No, seriously. I still feel bad about that. 
 

my mom died when I was in my 40s. My sister in her 60’s had a family meeting to assess how they were going to deal with me because of how much of a live wire I’d been when my dad died. 
 

I was fine. I was 44. My mom had been sick for a decade. I’d been her caretaker. I was relieved she was no longer in pain. 
 

Jake really is that young. And he’s had not just the trauma of the day he’s likely lost a parent to death or abandonment already because kids with really supportive biological dads don’t become besties with the guy who dated their mom for a bit and have that relationship persist years after the breakup. 
 

kids who have previously been abandoned by a parent often aren’t as emotionally mature as kids who haven’t been. 
 

And Robby comes at this kid, this kid who has had this trauma today and in his past and says, “hey, we’ve been friends for a long time”. Robby has told strangers this is virtually his kid but he comes to Jake at that moment and says, “we’ve been friends a long time”. 
 

and kids who have had trauma?  The people they lash out at are not always but very often the people they trust the most. 

1 hour ago, Racj82 said:

A lot of arguments on this day wouldn't have happened on a lesser day.

And on a different day Robby would have handed Leah over to surgery and stayed with Jake. This day is the only day Robby would have been in this position with Leah in the first place. 

[Bulldog]

Did I understand correctly that McKay’s ankle monitor was because she was seen as a flight risk in a custody battle and not due to a criminal charge? Is that really a thing?

[tennisgurl]

It's easy to forget that, for the characters, it's only been a few hours since the shooting, not a few weeks. Jake just watched his girlfriend die in a horrific mass shooting where he was injured as well a few hours ago, I'm not surprised that he's raw emotionally and lashing out. It's hard to be mad at her actual killer, the shooter is a faceless nobody who's already dead, it's easier to be mad at someone right in front of him, especially when it just happened. I feel horrible for Robby, but I feel bad for Jake too, it's an awful situation where there are no winners. Hopefully when the dust settles they catch patch things up. 

[anna0852]

3 hours ago, Bulldog said:

Did I understand correctly that McKay’s ankle monitor was because she was seen as a flight risk in a custody battle and not due to a criminal charge? Is that really a thing?

They haven’t spelled it out, but my interpretation was that the custody battle was getting nasty and Mackay got into it with her exes new chick. The one wearing that icky “bonus Mom” shirt. And the altercation then led to Mackay catching criminal charges, hence the ankle monitor. I don’t think it’s so much that she’s a flight risk but that she’s on a form of house arrest. Probably she’s allowed to go to home and work, but that’s it.

[Sarah 103]

3 hours ago, Bulldog said:

Did I understand correctly that McKay’s ankle monitor was because she was seen as a flight risk in a custody battle and not due to a criminal charge? Is that really a thing?

There was a mention of a restraining order in an earlier episode and also that she only had a short time left until the restraining order was lifted. It's very clear Chloe had something to do with McKay having to wear the ankle monitor (although we're not sure exactly what the scenario is).

I know in the 1970s and the 1980s part of the reason why child abduction rates skyrocketed wasn't stranger danger, it was family members deeply upset with child custody agreements. I have never heard of a spouse wearing an ankle monitor as a result of fierce child custody battle, but it seems on the verge of plausible. 

Also, I totally called that McKay was not actually going to be arrested on the spot and removed. I knew the law enforcement officers who were there and saw the work she had done would talk the officers who tried to arrest her out of it. There may be consequences: extra time she has to wear the ankle monitor, a fine, or something else. 

[preeya]

On 4/11/2025 at 2:59 PM, JeanJean said:

I get such a kick out of seeing Sean Hatosy all grown up. I remember him in "In and Out."

I remember him from the early days of Dexter.

[Infie]

Re: Jake's behaviour after Leah's death. 

He's lashing out because he has just had a horrific experience. 

That makes it understandable.  It doesn't make it excusable or acceptable.

This is one of my pet peeves in media and in real life.   People deserve the right to grieve and rage and be frustrated and to feel things, but that doesn't give them the right to take that grief and rage and frustration out on others without consequence.  If Jake is a kid, then I agree with the poster who said that his mom should have reproved him; if he is an adult then he should already know better. 

We have problems in western society thinking beyond ourselves under stress.  Every person in that hospital was having the worst day of their lives.  Robbie himself was having an absolutely horrific day, but Jake didn't care about  that, only about himself.  Which, fine, youth - again, understandable, but again, not acceptable. 

It has always bothered me that we don't treat our expectations of people equally. If it is OK for Jake to blame Robbie, would it then have been equally OK for Robbie to blame Jake?  If it had been Robbie yelling at Jake that he should have done a better job protecting Leah, or that he should have held pressure better, or that its Jake's fault for asking Leah to go in the first place, would that have been OK?  (Answer: Of course not, I am not actually ridiculous) 

Double standards drive me nuts. 

[Irlandesa]

23 minutes ago, Infie said:

It has always bothered me that we don't treat our expectations of people equally. If it is OK for Jake to blame Robbie, would it then have been equally OK for Robbie to blame Jake? 

Robbie didn't blame Jake but Robbie did take out his anger on others.  The mounting pressure of it being the anniversary of his mentor's death, the frustrating patients and the mass casualty event led to some unprofessional outbursts on Langdon and even Gloria. 

I'm not sure what lesson Jake would be in the mindset to receive.  His mother can make him apologize but it wouldn't be genuine or reflective at that time.  Given the events of the day and his trauma, I think he can take a day or more before his mother discusses how he reacted in the immediate aftermath.  Hell, give him a day or two and he might come to his own realization that he unfairly lashed out. That'd be far more effective than a tsk tsk.

[circumvent]

The episode was very good on another level: the way the bathroom looked like after a few hours of complete chaos. When Samira was in the bathroom crying there were smudges of blood everywhere people touched, the paper towel rack was open and nearly empty, there was paper with blood on the floor. I like when they pay attention to details that look so real.

[lianau]

8 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Robbie didn't blame Jake but Robbie did take out his anger on others.  The mounting pressure of it being the anniversary of his mentor's death, the frustrating patients and the mass casualty event led to some unprofessional outbursts on Langdon and even Gloria. 

 

It's why I loved that Langdon Robby scene. You let that job get to you . Yeah but so did Robby and he's the one with the breakdown while Langdon is selfmedicating whatever problem he has.  Also Robby has decades of experience while Langdon is 4 years out of med school, he graduated in the middle of Covid but somehow Robby gets to monopolize Covid trauma. 

[Laurie4H]

I binged the show this week and really liked it.  While I don’t always like the preachy stuff the acting and most characters are likable.  I think Noah Wyle deserves Emmy and GG nominations.  I really hope Sean Hatosy gets a larger role next season.  He is a very underrated actor that should have had way more recognition for his acting in Animal Kingdom. 

[marceline]

23 hours ago, bybrandy said:

In my experience most of the anti-medicine moms are white. It takes a certain kind of privilege to think little Johnny won’t get sick because you use all organic cleaning supplies and can have an active sourdough starter. I have plenty of friends who are crunchy granola and non-white but the non-white ones are vaccinated. 

Yep. The anti-vax movement started with wealthy, white influencers in the natural wellness community. This show has continually been praised for it's accuracy and, sadly, that includes this.

I heard a podcast where they raised the fact that in cases where a man and woman had to make a decision the woman was often the impediment. I can see where people got that impression but personally I didn't have a problem with it. We also had softball kid and his dad (remember them?). Dad was the one who cared more about his kid's athletic career than his son. There was the mother who was spiking her husband's food with progesterone, and the abortion story was two women facing off against each other.  I'm chalking it up to varying mileage.

Edited April 14 by marceline

[Notabug]

On 4/13/2025 at 10:38 AM, iMonrey said:

It doesn't actually make a lot of sense for him to lash out at Robbie this way and it speaks to the status of their relationship. He must not actually think much of Robbie or feel very close to him to blame him for his girlfriend's death

Actually, I think it is because Jake feels comfortable with Robby that he was able to vent at him like he did.  If Robby had been some random ER doc, Jake wouldn't have lashed out at all. He put his anger and grief onto Robby because he knew Robby could handle it and because he knew their relationship was strong.  Using people we love and trust as targets for our anger is a very human thing.

Edited April 14 by Notabug

[iMonrey]

Jake doesn't get a free pass because he's a "kid." And kids don't get a free pass on unacceptable behavior. His mother was right there, she should have admonished him on the spot and demand he apologize.

It would be one thing if Jake's girlfriend has some illness and Robby had been treating her for a long time and then she died. There, I could see him blaming Robby. But this is different. They were at some music festival, there was a mass shooting, dozens of people shot and killed, he's rushed to the one person he trusts the most after an agonizing ambulance ride with his girlfriend bleeding out knowing she's probably going to die. Even Robby can't save her. And he blames Robby?

Sorry, this just didn't work for me. Not buying it. For me, this is up there with the writing for Santos. I'm seeing writing that's trying to push an emotional button or service an arc but to me it doesn't feel realistic or earned.

[Racj82]

11 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Jake doesn't get a free pass because he's a "kid." And kids don't get a free pass on unacceptable behavior. His mother was right there, she should have admonished him on the spot and demand he apologize.

It would be one thing if Jake's girlfriend has some illness and Robby had been treating her for a long time and then she died. There, I could see him blaming Robby. But this is different. They were at some music festival, there was a mass shooting, dozens of people shot and killed, he's rushed to the one person he trusts the most after an agonizing ambulance ride with his girlfriend bleeding out knowing she's probably going to die. Even Robby can't save her. And he blames Robby?

Sorry, this just didn't work for me. Not buying it. For me, this is up there with the writing for Santos. I'm seeing writing that's trying to push an emotional button or service an arc but to me it doesn't feel realistic or earned.

Your looking for rational thought while someone is angry, hurt and grieving. I would advice not doing that. It doesn't matter what age you are, how traumatic the experience is, etc... You never know how you will react until you are in the moment.

[circumvent]

27 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Sorry, this just didn't work for me. Not buying it. For me, this is up there with the writing for Santos. I'm seeing writing that's trying to push an emotional button or service an arc but to me it doesn't feel realistic or earned.

I don't really think the writing is comparable to the one for the Santos character. I think it is to make Robby's day even shittier. I do think that trauma or not, closeness or not, it goes to the kid's personality. It is impossible to compare and rate trauma by which one is worse than the other but I have met people going through terrible trauma that didn't lash out at the perceived culprit, but shut down completely. Which brings me back - again, sorry -  the fact that Jake lashing out was just a hook to add to Robby's storyline. 

I though the story with the kid who had a eliminate list was more well developed - maybe because it held on itself while Jake's story was a little detail in a big event - because I could actually see the kid going from angry to sad, to combative, to really listening and accepting help. Same age, different personalities. About the same time spent in the ER too. Also a trauma. That kid would, and was, lashing out at anyone who came to the door.

[marceline]

I was just thinking about some of the patients who we will never know what happened to them.

• Sex trafficking victim and her "boss."
• The teen with the medication abortion. (Remember Robby fudged the measurements on the age of the fetus so she could have any number of complications.)
• Mohan's sickle cell patient.
• McKay's unhoused patient with the burn.

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, marceline said:

I was just thinking about some of the patients who we will never know what happened to them.

• Sex trafficking victim and her "boss."
• The teen with the medication abortion. (Remember Robby fudged the measurements on the age of the fetus so she could have any number of complications.)
• Mohan's sickle cell patient.
• McKay's unhoused patient with the burn.

That's one thing that attracts me to the show. This is what happens. People go tho the ER, they might see different doctors, they might be there when there is a change in shifts and they never see the doctors again because they are either discharged or admitted. In some public hospitals they might stay there for days but next season will not be the next day.

[aure7]

(sorry for my english)

Obsessed with this show. I watch this show thanks to Noah Wyle and stayed because everyone is at the top of their game and I love the 1 hour / 1 episode format.

The brain dead young man and the honor walk, the drowned little girl, the old man and his 2 adult children...the show stays with you.

Like many of you, I hope we will see more of the night shift characters : Abbot is the most impactful in the night shift of course.

Hope Dana will stay.

p.s : do you think that the 'spare room with a bathroom' Santos is offering to Whittaker is the one who belonged to her friend who committed suicide (because they both were molested) ? 

[iMonrey]

On 4/14/2025 at 11:12 AM, Racj82 said:

Your looking for rational thought while someone is angry, hurt and grieving. I would advice not doing that. It doesn't matter what age you are, how traumatic the experience is, etc... You never know how you will react until you are in the moment.

Yes I do. I've experienced loss and trauma. Most people have by the time they are my age.

When they were in the makeshift morgue and Jake angrily asked why Robby* couldn't save her, that part I bought, because he was just upset and it was immediate and it served as a catalyst for Robby's nervous breakdown.

But after an hour or two or three or however many hours later, when Robby went to check back on Jake, who by this time was with his mother, and Jake lashed out at him again? That part I didn't buy. In the first instance, I felt sorry for him. In this instance, I was like "fuck you Jake." And the mother who just stood their silently beside her asshole son. 

But - I guess the writers achieved what they were going for since a lot of viewers seem to find it perfectly reasonable. I just don't. 

* Have we settled on whether it's Robby or Robbie?

[circumvent]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

* Have we settled on whether it's Robby or Robbie?

cc says it is Robby

[bybrandy]

11 hours ago, iMonrey said:

* Have we settled on whether it's Robby or Robbie?

TVLine writes Robby in their spots on the show. So I assume it is Robby. 

[Kel Varnsen]

Great finale. I really liked how in the scene on the roof Abbot, and basically the show said how no one would care that Robby broke down for a few minutes. 

I also liked King with her sister and the sister being amazed they they could get both pizza and pasta even though it was late.

I didn't really mind the scene with Santos and Whittaker at the end, with her offering him a place to stay. And I am super happy we didn't cut to a scene with them having some post adrenaline sex. So many lesser shows would have probably pulled that shit.

On 4/12/2025 at 3:12 PM, leighdear said:

The problem I had with the Whittaker/Santos scene is that it copies the "Grey's Anatomy" scene where Richard caught Callie Torres dancing in her underwear in an unused area of the hospital basement where she was squatting.  

To be fair Grey's Anatomy has over 400 episodes. With that many episodes and stories it would be hard to write another medical show that doesn't reuse plotlines from it.

[Sarah 103]

On 4/15/2025 at 6:54 AM, aure7 said:

do you think that the 'spare room with a bathroom' Santos is offering to Whittaker is the one who belonged to her friend who committed suicide (because they both were molested) ? 

I'm pretty sure what happened to her and her friend occurred when they were was much younger. I think they were molested when they were under 18. 

On 4/17/2025 at 9:28 PM, Kel Varnsen said:

To be fair Grey's Anatomy has over 400 episodes. With that many episodes and stories it would be hard to write another medical show that doesn't reuse plotlines from it.

Also, the medical drama goes back so many decades and there have been so many of them, it's kind of difficult/amazing when a medical show does something that is totally original and has never been done before. More likely is a variation on something that has been done already, but the show puts a twist on it or does something slightly different than what came before.