Snazzy Daisy March 26 Share March 26 Quote While grappling with his own trauma, Will goes undercover at Olas Collective, a suspicious wellness community, to uncover the truth behind the organization and investigate a string of deaths tied to its members. Air Date: Apr 01, 2025 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/
peachmangosteen March 26 Share March 26 Having Angie be the one to say "I'm just gonna say it: cult," or whatever is kind of nasty but hilarious lol. 3 4 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8617163
fastiller March 26 Share March 26 9 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said: Having Angie be the one to say "I'm just gonna say it: cult," or whatever is kind of nasty but hilarious lol. I thought the very same thing! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8617167
Snazzy Daisy March 29 Author Share March 29 (edited) Quote Edited Tuesday at 09:19 AM by Snazzy Daisy Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8620129
AnimeMania Tuesday at 08:35 PM Share Tuesday at 08:35 PM ROBIN WEIGERT (Photo #11) 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623008
Atlanta Wednesday at 02:22 AM Share Wednesday at 02:22 AM Don't put on the purple shroud or drink the kool-aid, Will! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623252
Quickbeam Wednesday at 02:24 AM Share Wednesday at 02:24 AM We lost a big chunk of this episode to breaking election news that apparently couldn’t wait. So annoyed. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623253
AimingforYoko Wednesday at 02:27 AM Share Wednesday at 02:27 AM Is it me or is Angie the most stable she's ever been on the show? She's happy with the doc, she's been a good friend to Will (without even a hint of crossing the line) and she made a completely logical argument against Will going undercover with the cult. Makes me look for a dangling shoe somewhere. 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623256
possibilities Wednesday at 03:26 AM Share Wednesday at 03:26 AM I guess Marion wasn't a "big bad" like some feared at the beginning of the season, but she certainly was absolutely terrible at understanding what Will was going through. It seemed kind of callous, actually. She had a total breakdown after her trauma, but I guess she doesn't make the connection that her being attacked for no reason is like the kid dying for no reason, and that Will empathizes where she doesn't? It's actually pretty disturbing that she doesn't get it. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623298
peachmangosteen Wednesday at 01:03 PM Share Wednesday at 01:03 PM I hope that's the end of Marion but I doubt it is. I couldn't really be in this episode because I kept thinking about what Erika Christensen and the rest of them were thinking since she's a Scientologist. 5 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623500
Snazzy Daisy Wednesday at 01:10 PM Author Share Wednesday at 01:10 PM Amanda’s hair looks amazing in this episode. Why is Faith still mad at Will? She should be angry at Jeremy. She should take a moment and think what she would’ve done if Jeremy called her that night after getting arrested. Faith has made it worse by going to Marion about this. Ormewood saying that it’s disgusting for Angie/Seth to sit on the same side at a restaurant booth then asking to see their hands is unexpectedly funny. 😂 Seth seems to be a nice addition to this show. He gets along with everybody including Will. Will is too vulnerable to be going undercover at this point of time, especially with that fearless and manipulative cult leader. Hey Will, I get that you’re grieving but you need to stop scaring Betty. Capeesh??! 👌🏻 18 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623505
Starchild Wednesday at 01:27 PM Share Wednesday at 01:27 PM (edited) 17 minutes ago, Snazzy Daisy said: Seth seems to be a nice addition to this show. He gets along with everybody including Will. Especially Will, apparently, the way they were enthusiastically out-nerding each other over tapeworms lol. I think Seth had more chemistry with Will in their first few minutes than with Angie all along. Too bad the show won't go there :D Edited Wednesday at 01:28 PM by Starchild 6 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623523
EtheltoTillie Wednesday at 01:58 PM Share Wednesday at 01:58 PM Marion seems so wrong for Will. I hope she goes away. Every time Will saw Angie Bonding with Scott Foley he drifted to some other place. They fooled us at first showing him with Marion in what turned out to be a dream sequence. But then he seemed to like Seth. I’m so mad this is a cliffhanger. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623542
milkyaqua Wednesday at 04:00 PM Share Wednesday at 04:00 PM (edited) 13 hours ago, AimingforYoko said: Is it me or is Angie the most stable she's ever been on the show? She's happy with the doc, she's been a good friend to Will (without even a hint of crossing the line) and she made a completely logical argument against Will going undercover with the cult. Makes me look for a dangling shoe somewhere. Agree with this. Especially the part about Angie arguing against Will going undercover. I knew he'd volunteer to do it but I was like no way Amanda goes along with this and even the rest of them can't think this is okay. And yes, Will needs to stop stressing out Betty. As for the Marion thing, eh, even as someone who's not into Will and Marion one way or the other, was sort of going, why would she think now is the best time to break it off? I get not wanting to push him but she also seems to not understand that they are two different people and what works for one may not work for the other. I get Faith being angry at Will but yes, she needs to be angry at her son. She also needs to not shut Will out since as he says, he knows more about Rafael than she does. Either way, that whole situation is going to end badly for all the main players involved. Edited Wednesday at 04:22 PM by milkyaqua 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623637
possibilities Wednesday at 04:13 PM Share Wednesday at 04:13 PM I think they were trying to show that Angie's new boyfriend is a lot llike WIll, just happier and not in law enforcement. It's less pressure for her, but still comfortable and familiar and she has a type. She does love Will, she just can't live up to his moral standards. And I thinK Will is shutting Betty out because he thinks he doesn't deserve to feel better, doesn't want to be comforted or distracted from his grief. It's unbearable, though. Shutting Betty out won't bring back the 14 year old kid any more than therapy with the idiot therapist will. And it hurts Betty! Stop hurting Betty!! 13 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623657
fastiller Wednesday at 04:48 PM Share Wednesday at 04:48 PM Dr. Seth reminded me very much of a Golden Labrador in that diner scene. 4 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623682
marceline Wednesday at 04:49 PM Share Wednesday at 04:49 PM I almost laughed at the beginning when Amanda said "What if it had been me that shot a child? Or Polaski? Or Faith?" Umm Amanda Polaski is already responsible for Crystle's death and Faith killed a cop. Robyn Weigert is so good at playing creepy women. I'm curious about how Will's AI assistant works. How does Eduardo have access to case files? It's interesting how Will has been using Betty to comfort others all season (the abducted girl, Faith after her mom was kidnapped) but when he needs comfort, he shuts her out. 48 minutes ago, milkyaqua said: As for the Marion thing, eh, even as someone who's not into Will and Marion one way or the other, was sort of going, why would she think now is the best time to break it off? Because he made it crystal clear that he didn't want her around. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623684
cardigirl Wednesday at 04:49 PM Share Wednesday at 04:49 PM I kind of hate it when shows have therapists be inept. Therapy works, especially talk therapy, and Will needs a lot of that right now. His thinking that no amount of talking is going to bring the young man back is correct, but it may make him able to deal with his emotions about his actions. Right now, he's feeling like he's "the worst person in the world." He didn't choose this, but it happened, and now he's caught up in a circular way of thinking that can't be productive. He bears a lot of guilt for things that have happened to him over his lifetime, and he needs to learn coping methods to deal with the guilt and forgive himself. I loved Amanda demanding that Will go back to the therapist or at least sit there with her. Glad she's on his side. Angie seems so very happy right now, compared to where she was at the beginning of the season. I like Seth, and I loved the scene in the diner. All the actors play well off of each other. Ormewood continues to be a favorite! Poor Marion, she told Will she loves him, and he had no response. Admittedly, telling him at this low point was putting more pressure on the guy to be who she wants him to be. I don't think she understood that he had no room for that right now, and I don't think she was trying to manipulate him, but she has been around a happier, more grounded Will, who kind of swept her off of her feet, and she doesn't have the history with him to know how dark his outlook can be. Is the show pitting the two women, Angie and Marion, against each other? Maybe. It would be funny if we end up rooting for Angie to NOT return to Will, ha ha. Not looking forward to next week, because I don't like to see Will Spoiler getting beat up. 4 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623685
fastiller Wednesday at 04:51 PM Share Wednesday at 04:51 PM Just now, marceline said: Robyn Weigert is so good at playing creepy women. I've stopped watching the other show, but I wonder whether Colter (Tracker) will need to go find someone in OLAS. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623686
Sarah 103 Wednesday at 05:27 PM Share Wednesday at 05:27 PM 1 hour ago, possibilities said: And I thinK Will is shutting Betty out because he thinks he doesn't deserve to feel better, doesn't want to be comforted or distracted from his grief. It's unbearable, though. I hadn't thought about that. I was surprised to see Betty trying to wake Will up from the nightmare. She knows him so well and knows when something is wrong with her person. She wants to help, but he won't let her. @cardigirl I was expecting a line about Will requesting a different therapist. Clearly the two of them do not have a good working relationship. The scene in Will's office of Will and Angie on the floor reminded me of a flashback to the two of them as teenagers in a similar position on the ground. Hopefully Will can get over his shock/surprise that Angie has a boyfriend because Seth is a great guy. Angie no longer wants a romantic relationship with Will, but I'm glad they or at least she, is trying to be friends again. They understand each other in a way no one else does. The fact that she was so adamant about Will's undercover plan being a horrible idea means she still deeply cares for him. She does not want anything bad to happen him and will fiercely protect him as much as she can. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623719
cardigirl Wednesday at 05:30 PM Share Wednesday at 05:30 PM 2 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said: I was expecting a line about Will requesting a different therapist. Clearly the two of them do not have a good working relationship. But that's what I mean, the show had to have an inept therapist. Just bugged me. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623722
statsgirl Wednesday at 07:05 PM Share Wednesday at 07:05 PM 1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said: The fact that she was so adamant about Will's undercover plan being a horrible idea means she still deeply cares for him. She does not want anything bad to happen him and will fiercely protect him as much as she can. She recognizes that Will is in a very bad place, that he wants to be punished, and that makes him very vulnerable especially to a cult. Making the cult leader a better therapist than Will's therapist is ... a choice? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623804
EtheltoTillie Wednesday at 07:18 PM Share Wednesday at 07:18 PM 2 hours ago, cardigirl said: I kind of hate it when shows have therapists be inept. Therapy works, especially talk therapy, and Will needs a lot of that right now. His thinking that no amount of talking is going to bring the young man back is correct, but it may make him able to deal with his emotions about his actions. Right now, he's feeling like he's "the worst person in the world." He didn't choose this, but it happened, and now he's caught up in a circular way of thinking that can't be productive. He bears a lot of guilt for things that have happened to him over his lifetime, and he needs to learn coping methods to deal with the guilt and forgive himself. I loved Amanda demanding that Will go back to the therapist or at least sit there with her. Glad she's on his side. Hide contents getting beat up. This is a serious question: what is the way that a therapist heals someone from this type of tragedy? The bad feelings cannot be made to go away ever. I don't see what the method is. It seems only that time let's you move on but it's always in the back of your mind. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623813
tennisgurl Wednesday at 07:34 PM Share Wednesday at 07:34 PM (edited) You know things are bad when Will is even shutting Betty out! Give that sweet little dog a hug righty now, you will both feel better when you get some puppy snuggles. Will, at one of his lowest points, going undercover in a cult for traumatized people is going to end so poorly. The main cult lady is telling him everything he wants to hear, about how awful he is and how they have the ways to move past the trauma, I don't know if he'll full on drink the kool aid, but he might take a few drops, and that's even beyond the danger if he gets caught. He is in way too vulnerable a place for this. I like Dr. Seth, especially now that we've seen more of him with the rest of the cast. He and Will geeking out over nasty tapeworms was hilarious, it was by far the happiest Will was in this episode, and he seems like a really good influence on Angie. I am really happy that Angie seems to be ready to be friends with Will again, I really like their friendship and would hate to see their connection severed. They're toxic as hell as a couple, but as friends they're great, Will needs someone who is willing to look out for him who really gets his issues. I get that Faith is upset, this is a bad situation for everyone, but she really needs to cut Will some slack. If Will wasn't in such a self hating place he would probably ask Faith what he should have done in that situation. Let Jeremy be arrested? I would think that Faith would be angrier at Jeremy than at Will, but I guess its easier to be angry at her partner and not her son. It also feels bad because Will is so miserable, talk about kicking a guy when he's down. I am so glad that we have Ormewood for comic relief, things have been pretty intense around here lately. I don't love you guys sitting on the same side of the table... Edited Wednesday at 07:53 PM by tennisgurl 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623832
cardigirl Wednesday at 07:35 PM Share Wednesday at 07:35 PM 6 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said: This is a serious question: what is the way that a therapist heals someone from this type of tragedy? The bad feelings cannot be made to go away ever. I don't see what the method is. It seems only that time lets you move on but it's always in the back of your mind. You're right; time does give one perspective. But a therapist, a good one, makes one examine one's thought processes and can help a person enter a state of mentality in which they step back from the emotion and situation to think logically. Will has a pattern of guilt and shame that does not allow him to value himself. He needs to learn self-compassion and work with a therapist who is nonjudgemental and has unconditional positive regard while listening to him. Which is probably more complicated than the show can give time to. Instead they reinforced the idea that therapy is a waste of time. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623833
Sarah 103 Wednesday at 08:16 PM Share Wednesday at 08:16 PM 1 hour ago, statsgirl said: Making the cult leader a better therapist than Will's therapist is ... a choice? I don't see her as being a better therapist. Will went there to investigate, nothing more. He opened up because he needed to in order to get the invite to the retreat for the undercover operation. 38 minutes ago, tennisgurl said: I am really happy that Angie seems to be ready to be friends with Will again, I really like their friendship and would hate to see their connection severed. They're toxic as hell as a couple, but as friends they're great, Will needs someone who is willing to look out for him who really gets his issues. Yes! It's amazing that as a romantic couple they somehow bring out the worst in each other. As friends, they look out for each other and are better people/work better as friends. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623877
AnimeMania Wednesday at 10:55 PM Share Wednesday at 10:55 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, fastiller said: 6 hours ago, marceline said: Robyn Weigert is so good at playing creepy women. I've stopped watching the other show, but I wonder whether Colter (Tracker) will need to go find someone in OLAS. Robyn Weigert left Tracker after the first season. Edited Wednesday at 10:55 PM by AnimeMania 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8623989
truthaboutluv Wednesday at 11:46 PM Share Wednesday at 11:46 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, possibilities said: I guess Marion wasn't a "big bad" like some feared at the beginning of the season, but she certainly was absolutely terrible at understanding what Will was going through. It seemed kind of callous, actually. She had a total breakdown after her trauma, but I guess she doesn't make the connection that her being attacked for no reason is like the kid dying for no reason, and that Will empathizes where she doesn't? It's actually pretty disturbing that she doesn't get it. I know Marion has not been a favorite around these parts and maybe it's because while I don't love her, I don't hate the character either that my read on many of her scenes are so vastly different than others. I didn't see a lack of empathy and understanding from Marian. I saw her coming from the perspective of one, not being a cop/detective/etc. even if she works for law enforcement and so has likely never had to shoot anyone and deal with that trauma that comes with the job. So, she was coming from the perspective of knowing Will and caring for him and wanting him to know that he wasn't a bad person despite what happened. That essentially it wasn't his fault. But Will cannot receive that message because he's not in that place yet. 10 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said: Why is Faith still mad at Will? She should be angry at Jeremy. She should take a moment and think what she would’ve done if Jeremy called her that night after getting arrested. Faith has made it worse by going to Marion about this. Honestly, Faith was annoying me and especially regarding her conversation with Marion. I get that it's her son, which is exactly why Will wanted to save her from that tough choice but she's being completely unreasonable and frankly, delusional. I couldn't believe when she tried to negotiate with Marion about dropping the CI but apparently doing so without their being charged for the drugs, they were caught red-handed with. Like the fact that Marion had to remind Faith that while she doesn't know the identity of the CI, she does know that said person was caught with a large amount of illegal drugs, which makes allowing them to simply walk away improbable, was insane to me. 7 hours ago, milkyaqua said: As for the Marion thing, eh, even as someone who's not into Will and Marion one way or the other, was sort of going, why would she think now is the best time to break it off? Because she told him she loved him, told him she wanted to be there for whatever he needed the way he helped her after her trauma, and he made it clear in not so many words that he was not interested. That's why she made reference of "ripping the band aid off." The bottom line is whether she's saying or doing the right thing as some think she should, Will has clearly emotionally closed himself off to her. I don't think at this point, the frame of mind Will is in, Marion can do or say ANYTHING right. Which is why she walked away. 7 hours ago, marceline said: Because he made it crystal clear that he didn't want her around. Yes, this! Edited Wednesday at 11:59 PM by truthaboutluv 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624021
possibilities Yest. at 12:01 AM Share Yest. at 12:01 AM Marion trying to tell Will he's not a bad person is one thing. Suggesting he just, essentially, forget about it and go to the movies, is beyond not reading the room. After she was traumatized, he didn't say: But you're safe now! Let's go to the movies! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624039
peeayebee Yest. at 01:06 AM Share Yest. at 01:06 AM (edited) I really liked this ep. Sad, but good. 11 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said: Amanda’s hair looks amazing in this episode. Yes, I loved it. Quote Why is Faith still mad at Will? She should be angry at Jeremy. I was getting pissed at her. 5 hours ago, tennisgurl said: I would think that Faith would be angrier at Jeremy than at Will, but I guess its easier to be angry at her partner and not her son. That's probably it. Her anger is displaced. 8 hours ago, cardigirl said: I kind of hate it when shows have therapists be inept. I didn't see it as the therapist being inept, but as Will being completely resistant to any kind of help because he wants to carry the guilt around with him for a while. I don't mean that in a belittling way. It makes sense: Will is responsible for Marco's death. How can he ever feel ok about that? How is it right for him to continue on with his life when he took away Marco's? It's funny, when Marion and Will were on the couch cuddling and laughing about the wonderful day they had at the batting cages, this was the first time I really liked Marion. And then it turns out to be a dream. I really really like Seth. I really really hope he continues to be a good guy. The tapeworm conversation betw him and Will was excellent. I love his sense of humor. Edited Yest. at 01:07 AM by peeayebee 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624371
mrsbagnet Yest. at 01:34 AM Share Yest. at 01:34 AM 8 hours ago, marceline said: Robyn Weigert is so good at playing creepy women. Even when she played the supportive psychologist on Big Little Lies, she still came off as a little creepy. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624493
Dowel Jones Yest. at 01:57 AM Share Yest. at 01:57 AM 6 hours ago, tennisgurl said: I like Dr. Seth, especially now that we've seen more of him with the rest of the cast. He and Will geeking out over nasty tapeworms was hilarious, i I'm guessing that the other diners nearby were not so impressed. Is pathologically scrupulous Will going to count the turns and measure the time traveled out to the retreat to figure out where it is? 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624580
fastiller Yest. at 12:28 PM Share Yest. at 12:28 PM 13 hours ago, AnimeMania said: Robyn Weigert left Tracker after the first season. Indeed. (Maybe Colter will try finding her? 😁 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8624925
Mrs. Stanwyck Yest. at 07:43 PM Share Yest. at 07:43 PM Quote I get that Faith is upset, this is a bad situation for everyone, but she really needs to cut Will some slack. If Will wasn't in such a self hating place he would probably ask Faith what he should have done in that situation. Let Jeremy be arrested? I would think that Faith would be angrier at Jeremy than at Will, but I guess its easier to be angry at her partner and not her son. It also feels bad because Will is so miserable, talk about kicking a guy when he's down. I felt like a big part of Faith's anger at Will was his lie (of omission) about what happened with Jeremy. I think she had just gotten over him shutting her out and running off without a word and then this. I think her trust in him is damaged and that is what the anger is about. It is also about making Jeremy be a CI but I do think deep down she realizes it was the only option. She's just pissed he didn't tell her. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152610-s03e12-youre-the-worst-person-in-the-world/#findComment-8625262
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