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S14.E01: Episode 1

txhorns79

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Straycat80

Straycat80

Poor little Paula. Why didn’t the adults just ask her if someone had done something to her instead of blaming the devil or immaculate conception. 
I’m glad the one Mom didn’t have to have a C-Section. 
I’m happy for Nancy, she deserves a happy life and hopefully her MIL is not in her life too much. What a buzzkill she is. 
Can’t wait to watch the rest of the episodes. I love this show! 

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caitmcg

caitmcg

On 3/23/2025 at 5:04 PM, Straycat80 said:

Why didn’t the adults just ask her if someone had done something to her instead of blaming the devil or immaculate conception. 

Close-mindedness. Assuming something she was ignorant about wouldn't happen (as if that has ever been the case). I honestly assumed in the beginning that it had been an adult and possibly someone associated with the church, so at least it wasn't that.

They really seem to be ramping up the Cyril-Rosalind connection.

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Jodithgrace

Jodithgrace

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I hope that the home they sent Paula to was better than those horrific Irish ones which existed until fairly recently. Interesting that the father came around and not the mother. I’ve read about that so often, that the mother is harder on her child than the father, when one would think she would have more compassion, being a female herself. 
 

I’m seeing a hint of romance between Cyril and Rosalind, but I know he is too morally upright to do anything while he is still married to the long absent Lucille. I wish they would resolve that story line and let the poor man move on. 
 

So was the Isle of Dogs story something that happened, historically? As an American, I’ve barely ever heard of The Isle of Dogs, no less that it seceded from England! 
 

So, did we miss much on this side of the pond? There are always missing scenes that we don’t get to see. 

Edited to add that according to Wikipedia, the secession of The Isle of Dogs wasn’t 100% serious and didn’t last very long, by some accounts only a couple of hours, and by others, up to a week. But it did really happen. 

 

 

 

 

 

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libgirl2

libgirl2

On 3/28/2025 at 7:07 PM, caitmcg said:

Close-mindedness. Assuming something she was ignorant about wouldn't happen (as if that has ever been the case). I honestly assumed in the beginning that it had been an adult and possibly someone associated with the church, so at least it wasn't that.

They really seem to be ramping up the Cyril-Rosalind connection.

I'm glad it wasn't an adult, I was afraid they would go there. 

For sure on Cyril and Rosalind. I like them together but we have to deal with the problem that is Lucille. 

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nokat

nokat

12 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I'm glad it wasn't an adult, I was afraid they would go there. 

For sure on Cyril and Rosalind. I like them together but we have to deal with the problem that is Lucille. 

This child, you know she would be to blame.

I liked seeing Cyril again. I'm not sure how he and Lucille can go on.

I loved seeing Reggie and how he's getting on.

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Orcinus orca

Orcinus orca

Those creepy evangelicals surrounding and shouting at that child made me cringe and swear in equal measure.  And then her own mother turned her back.

Sadly, there are so many situations where both parents abandon their female children to the horrors of "god's will".  All of those poor girls in polygamist slavery in the US with no help unless they can somehow run away.

I don't see any chemistry between Cyril and Lucille.  He's more like a loving older brother in my estimation.

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Mermaid Under

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I’m glad the one Mom didn’t have to have a C-Section.

That took me back to my days working in the hospital. Depending on the mother, and the length of time between pregnancies (a year is probably not enough time) a VBAC (vaginal birth after caesarean) would be considered. But once a woman had had a caesarean, it was a concern.

What was the point of the storyline with Phyllis?  Was the character too strong and too sensible - did they have to show her falling apart, and leaving Cyril's new friend to pick up the pieces?  It didn't make sense to me.

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JudyObscure

JudyObscure

I think Nurse Crane is a great actress, I felt her fear through the whole birth.  I didn't think it made her suddenly weak, just that the burst uterine birth  she had witnessed in the past was her very worst midwife experience and she was terrified it would happen again.  It sounded like a horrific thing.

 

My college roommate came from an extreme Christian fundamentalist family.  She got pregnant during our freshman year and her father blamed her mother for it (not raising her right.)  I think that's why the mothers  are sometimes less forgiving than the fathers -- they feel it reflects on them as mothers and as moral women.

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Notabug

Notabug

1 hour ago, Mermaid Under said:

That took me back to my days working in the hospital. Depending on the mother, and the length of time between pregnancies (a year is probably not enough time) a VBAC (vaginal birth after caesarean) would be considered. But once a woman had had a caesarean, it was a concern.

What was the point of the storyline with Phyllis?  Was the character too strong and too sensible - did they have to show her falling apart, and leaving Cyril's new friend to pick up the pieces?  It didn't make sense to me.

This woman had a classical incision on her uterus, a vertical cut.  Most cesareans these days are low transverse, a horizontal cut made in the lower part of the uterus just above the bladder.  Even today, women with classical uterine incisions are advised not to labor as the risk of uterine rupture is high.  Not many classical uterine incisions are done these days, though, mainly just for very premature babies as it can be less traumatic for them and the lower uterine segment is not well developed and accessible until closer to term.  The risk of uterine rupture is around 10% with a classical incision and can be catastrophic, even fatal.

Phyllis seemed out of character to me, too.  She's smart, practical and no nonsense.  I could see her handling the birth and then breaking down afterwards; not having a meltdown and being unable to function when there was work to be done.

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Orcinus orca

Orcinus orca

27 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Phyllis seemed out of character to me, too.  She's smart, practical and no nonsense.  I could see her handling the birth and then breaking down afterwards; not having a meltdown and being unable to function when there was work to be done.

It did seem out of character to me as well.  She has always been so "tough as nails" in all situations.  As a retired ER nurse I saw some pretty awful things but, when the chips are down, you have to step up no matter what.  But I guess everyone has a tipping point; I did keep thinking she would snap out of it, though.

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libgirl2

libgirl2

3 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said:

It did seem out of character to me as well.  She has always been so "tough as nails" in all situations.  As a retired ER nurse I saw some pretty awful things but, when the chips are down, you have to step up no matter what.  But I guess everyone has a tipping point; I did keep thinking she would snap out of it, though.

I agree with this feeling out of character for her. Yes, she has bad memories but the patient doesn't need to see you fall apart. Get the job done and fall apart later.

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Mermaid Under

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This woman had a classical incision on her uterus, a vertical cut.  Most cesareans these days are low transverse, a horizontal cut

Just for history's sake, the last time I worked in a hospital was 1988 or so.  The low-belly horizontal cut was just taking over from the vertical cut, depending solely on how old your OB/GYN was.  I admire the show for getting the medical part right.

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proserpina65

proserpina65

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On 3/23/2025 at 8:04 PM, Straycat80 said:

Why didn’t the adults just ask her if someone had done something to her instead of blaming the devil or immaculate conception.

Because Jesus freaks don't do that.  They just jumped to the supernatural.

I'm glad the c-section mother managed to have her baby with no problem, but realistically, given the techniques of the time, that could've turned out horrifically.  I don't buy Phyllis of all people freezing like that.

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Sarah 103

Sarah 103

15 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

I hope that the home they sent Paula to was better than those horrific Irish ones which existed until fairly recently. 

It's a different religion so I'm guessing yes. I can't imagine the nuns/midwives sending women to what you are referring to.

15 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

I’m seeing a hint of romance between Cyril and Rosalind, but I know he is too morally upright to do anything while he is still married to the long absent Lucille. I wish they would resolve that story line and let the poor man move on. 

I am 10000% okay with Lucille having an off-screen death: Car/bus crash, illness, whatever they want to do/however they want to do it. 

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JudyObscure

JudyObscure

I just assumed they would contact the boy or his parents, we just weren't seeing it.  It sounded like he was Paula's age, someone she had always played with.  He may not have been anymore aware of exactly what he was doing or what the consequences could be than she was.  He certainly wasn't old enough to marry her. 

I also got the impression that the parents had asked her, early on, if she had done anything with any boys.  The way the English usually put it back then was "Did anyone interfere with you?"  She wouldn't know what that meant.  I barely knew what it meant the first time I read it in a Catherine Cookson novel.

I've never actually known any Christians of any stripe who would think their child might be pregnant by the devil or an immaculate conception.  I thought the show got a little unrealistic with the cult they invented.  The Catholic mother disapproving of her son marrying a girl with a child seemed much more realistic to me and I didn't see why Miss Higgins having a son out of wedlock would make a big difference in her thinking.

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iMonrey

iMonrey

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Is it 1970 already? Didn't the show start out in the 40's? 

20 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

I hope that the home they sent Paula to was better than those horrific Irish ones which existed until fairly recently.

Maybe they sent her to the group home where Chummy works. At least, that's where she was working the last time we saw her.

Seems like they could have gotten the c-section woman out of there by putting her in a car and driving up to the blockade and demanding they move aside or risk the life of the woman in labor. 

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libgirl2

libgirl2

4 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Is it 1970 already? Didn't the show start out in the 40's? 

Maybe they sent her to the group home where Chummy works. At least, that's where she was working the last time we saw her.

Seems like they could have gotten the c-section woman out of there by putting her in a car and driving up to the blockade and demanding they move aside or risk the life of the woman in labor. 

It started in the early 50s I think. 

howiveaddict

howiveaddict

The little girl's mother also refused to let her take the sex ed class, at school.  No wonder she had no idea what was happening. Also weren't the paper boys trying to get to the girly magazines that Fred had put up high, out of reach?  I think the father, of the baby, knew what he was doing.   

Glad the father supported his daughter.  The mother and her relationship will probably be ruined forever.

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caitmcg

caitmcg

8 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

The Catholic mother disapproving of her son marrying a girl with a child

It was actually the other way around. His mother is Presbyterian and objected not only to Nancy having a child, but also to the fact that she's Catholic. She's also from Northern Ireland, and it's 1970 and very much in the midst of the Troubles, which presumably informed her anti-Catholic bias (she told Nancy, whom I doubt has strong political feelings about it, that it would mean they'd be forever on opposite sides there).

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dancingdreamer

dancingdreamer

I felt  so sorry  for little Paula, but I'm glad her father saw the light( no pun intended)  My mother said, don't  ever get pregnant,  what would  the neighbors  think. I know I came back with a smart remark  once, just once. But seriously,  the neighbors  ? 

I didn't  quite buy Phyllis  being so upset about an awful birth she had witnessed,  so she couldn't  attend to the mother in need. I kept telling  her to snap out of it, and be the fearless Phyllis  I know and love.

Lastly, I love Millicent, she's great in and out of the office, and just has the right touch whatever  the scenario. 

 

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Sarah 103

Sarah 103

10 hours ago, JudyObscure said:

 I thought the show got a little unrealistic with the cult they invented.  

This series did not invent the idea of Fundamentalist Christians. I think of them as more of a North American thing, especially the Southern U.S but they are all over the country. They exist in England too. 

5 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Is it 1970 already? Didn't the show start out in the 40's? 

I'm pretty sure the first series/season was set in the late 1950s. 

 

Badger

Badger

The show started out in 1957,

Deleted Scenes

CTM 14.1

Right after the scene in the hospital with the doctors and the pregnant lady being scheduled for a cesarean, there is a scene with Trixie and Nancy. Nancy tells Trixie that she's brought her a cuppa and some ginger nuts while she unpacks and then observes that Trixie has brought her own sheets even though the sheets on the bed had been changed already.   Paraphrasing, Trixie says she brought the sheets because the weather is going to be getting warmer and she didn't think she'd be able to handle flannelette.  She says they are from her and Matthew's apartment.  Nancy says they must remind her of Matthew and that she must miss him.  Trixie says she does.

They cut out part of the dialog between Trixie and Sister Julienne.  Sister Julianne also says that the board does not approve of them praying delivering contraceptive device and sexual education and she suspects, babies. She also says that the board did not like that their first obedience is to God and not to them.

Right before Trixie asks what they are going to do and Sister Julienne answers her, Shelagh comes in and says she's been called out to Sira Patel, who Sister Julienne says is having her first baby and that it could be a long night.  Shelagh says she will relish it especially since Trixie is back she probably won't be doing many more night calls.

Right before the scene with Reggie, Violet and the newsboys in the shop we see Shelagh delivering the baby.

Right after the scene of Paula throwing up, there is a scene at the Turner house.  Angela is trying to comb the tangles out of May's hair who says it hurts; Dr. Turner says they should just cut them out.  Shelagh returns and scolds them lightheartedly about having biscuits for breakfast.  Dr Turner says when the cats away the mice will play. He says he's made fresh coffee and asks about Shelagh's patient.  She says it was long and a posterior presentation but that it was everything the job was meant to be.

Right after the first scene at Paula's home with Dr. Turner, we go to Nancy's room.  Nancy is in curlers by the refrigerator when Colette walks in and hands her a post that she got from Sister Veronica.   Nancy tells her it's time for her toast and peanut butter and that she's bought a jar of crunchy this time.  

They cut out a bit where Nurse Crane is inspecting Joyce, Rosalind and Trixie in their uniforms.  Trixie says she has fully fashioned stockings on just in case the pay raise is announced.  Nurse Crane picks something off Joyce's sweater.

They cut out a bit right after the men came to the Buckle house.  Roger tells Nancy that Collette is first (presumably about the engagement), nuns second and that he is going to ring his mother in the morning.  He then says he's going to take her and Colette to meet his mother over the Easter weekend.

They cut out a scene at Violet's shop with Shelagh and Nancy discussing the bridesmaid dresses.  Nancy says she wants the girls wearing different colors, perhaps 3 shades of pink or maybe blue, green, or yellow.  Colette says she likes lilac.  Nancy says they should ask Miss Higgins who says when she was a girl mixed colors at a wedding were called sweet pea shades. Dews, qho ia up on a ladder comes in for some gentle ribbing about his part in the "uprising"  which he says fizzled out because the president and prime minister resigned.  Violet observes that it was more because people had better things to do.  She tells him to stay up there so they can check out the pastel taffet

 

 

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