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S14.E12: Land of the Free, Home of the Shade


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  On 2/19/2025 at 9:39 PM, bencr said:

Who would do that? You could see the party going on outside. Go outside and greet your host later ... unless, of course, this was just a performative stunt to show how rude the host is.

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Who else was there? Her kids were playing but she was invited with the housewives .. who was she supposed to go see? 

And why was she ignoring all those other guest that Sutton was supposed to be interacting with? 

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That's how you can tell Sutton and Dorit aren't friends at all.  Because if I go to a party at a friends house,ill go back where I hear the kids and say Hi. Talk to whomever is in the yard. I wouldn't sit on a chair inside, hearing the party, but waiting to be properly welcomed. That was strange to me.  

And I agree about the Garcelle scene asking about alcohol, her tone was a bit 'uh oh are you drinking?' She might have meant it that way, but it didn't sound like a simple inquiry if there Was alcohol being served, but that Sutton, in particular, had alcohol in her drink. So, yea I think we're missing a scene there. 

At any rate, I'm over Angry Dorito. She's making me feel bad for Kyle.  And I still think she doesn't deserve to be on this show, Miss I Only Care About Me! but Erika eating her hotdog and slamming her drink with eyes back and forth watching the drama was pretty funny.

Ugh Dorit has made Bizarro World happen for me, too lol

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  On 2/19/2025 at 10:41 PM, bencr said:

They didn't show who was there and Sutton didn't go out to see. Sutton had a choice to either try to have a good time or not.

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It’s not her house one she isn’t “friends” with the host like that so why would she go trapsinng through her house? .. 

That’s the host responsibility.. 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 10:44 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

It’s not her house one she isn’t “friends” with the host like that so why would she go trapsinng through her house? .. 

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She traipsed into her house. Nobody is arguing that Dorit shouldn't have been a better more thoughtful host, and in that way Dorit played right into Sutton's predisposition to be unhappy and judgmental. They are both wrong I think.

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And if Sutton was waiting for her downstairs for 45min isn’t that disrespectful to the other “people” there? Like don’t those people deserve her presence? Let me invite you to my party and disappear for almost an hour .. 

 

I honestly would have done the same thing wait for someone I know to show up or the host to actually greet me ..I’m not gonna let myself into your house and walk through when you and I arnt really friends and you invited me as a group 

 

 

Then get the passive aggressive oh I didn’t want them to be the first 2 I see coming downstairs.. which means she wasn’t even there to greet those other people there .. let’s be real about just how rude Dorit was with this party 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 10:49 PM, bencr said:

She traipsed into her house. Nobody is arguing that Dorit shouldn't have been a better more thoughtful host, and in that way Dorit played right into Sutton's predisposition to be unhappy and judgmental. They are both wrong I think.

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I understand your side and 100% had they been friends I would agree.. that’s a normal friend reaction

but I think this was a work thing and they arnt cool like that so it would make sense for her to wait for someone she knew or for Dorit to pop up .. 

 

it was just an awkward situation between both of them all around .. 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 10:32 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Who else was there? Her kids were playing but she was invited with the housewives .. who was she supposed to go see? 

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True, but the party was never going to be inside.  Sutton could have (and I would have) continued out to the backyard and got a drink (all the service people were there, plus the kids, plus presumably someone watching the kids) and hung out there.  While Sutton seems to have a penchant for digs at Dorito, maybe she just wanted to stay in the air conditioning rather than the 94 degree heat?  

As rude as Sutton can be, Dorit, the SOLE hostess, being upstairs for 30+ minutes after your guests start arriving is probably the worst. 

Either way, Dorit and Sutton have been rude to each other for years; the sisterhood of low blows and antagonizing each other.  I'm over all of it.  

 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 1:27 AM, RealHousewife said:

I don't think Dorit was kidding about the bag. 

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That whole exchange was so bizarre. I know Dorit claimed she was joking around but it didn't come across like she was joking. Even Sutton looked like she couldn't figure out what was going on (Does she really think I'm going to give her my purse to keep?). Sutton should have snatched her purse back and then carried it with her everywhere she went, to keep it safe from Dorit.

  On 2/19/2025 at 1:32 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

Oh dear g-d, what the actual fuck is Boz wearing to Dorit's party? Hideous, she looks like a cheap hooker.

 

 

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Boz has the most hideous taste. I can't believe that Dorit hasn't tried to restyle her. It must kill Dorit to have to keep her mouth shut about Boz's outfits.

  On 2/19/2025 at 1:36 AM, Surrealist said:

I like Boz, but she's come in way too hot (unless she been watching the show for years and mentions that at the Reunion). 

I understand why she's befriended Dorit, but she needs to learn the whole story behind the women's dynamics.

I'd rather be called a bitch than a c*** (which is my most loathed word).

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The funniest part is that Boz was introduced to the group by Sutton. Supposedly they were friends. I think the producers picked the wrong HW to "friend" the newbie up with.

  On 2/19/2025 at 3:48 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

A foreclosed house .. rented couture fake jewelry.. knockoff designer stuff , back taxes.. back due bills.. yea she’s not coming out of this as loaded as she thinks she will 

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Besides Housewives, what could Dorit do for a living? I could see her doing something with fashion maybe?

  On 2/19/2025 at 9:01 PM, janiema said:

It looked like Dorit was getting ready to move and was clearing stuff out.

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She probably does have to move. The house is in foreclosure and she can't afford to make the payments, much less pay all of the past due amounts.

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  On 2/19/2025 at 11:35 PM, ww92 said:

Besides Housewives, what could Dorit do for a living? I could see her doing something with fashion maybe?

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It seems like when a housewife finds herself in this position the last thing they want to do is work like a normal person, a 9 to 5 job, retail, something that gives them benefits, the first thing they do is find something stupid to dump what little money they have in to some vanity project with little to no pay off.

 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 11:35 PM, ww92 said:

 

Besides Housewives, what could Dorit do for a living? I could see her doing something with fashion maybe?

 

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Didn't Dorit already try and fail at fashion?  Beverly Beach swimwear and her bridal gown collaboration really didn't go anywhere except for a few lawsuits for Beverly Beach that were either dismissed or settled somehow out of court.  I think the bridal gown collaboration was a one shot deal, more for the free advertising the parent company received on the show, than for them wanting Dorit's actual ideas for designs.

I know Dorit was involved somehow in the fashion industry before marrying PK, so maybe she could go back to it, but I think she has a much higher opinion of herself now than she may have had then, so working for someone else, or starting over may be beneath her, in her mind.

Plus, Dorit's quite a bit older than she was 10-15 years ago.  I think, unfortunately, that could work against her.  It's sad that ageism still exists, but it's a fact - especially since she's technically been out of the business for that time and would be going up against younger, more career focused, more driven candidates with a fresher view and outlook on fashion than just showing up everywhere dressed in head-to-toe logo'd apparel and thinking that's fashion.

Hey - maybe she could become a walking billboard?  She doesn't mind having business logos being plastered all over her body!  

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  On 2/20/2025 at 1:01 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

It seems like when a housewife finds herself in this position the last thing they want to do is work like a normal person, a 9 to 5 job, retail, something that gives them benefits, the first thing they do is find something stupid to dump what little money they have in to some vanity project with little to no pay off.

 

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So true, it's that entitled attitude again-they see themselves as above normal jobs. 

I know fashion is Dorit's passion, and ideally, that would be how she'd make a living. I wish we could all do what we love every day. But it's a very, very difficult industry to succeed in. Dorit is a beautiful woman, looks incredible for any age but especially nearly 50, and she can dress really cute when she chills on the designer logos. There are other things she could do with al that other than Housewives or snagging a rich guy. 

I think if Dorit doesn't want to work in an office or retail or something like that, she could probably expand her influencing career. I could see her doing well on YouTube. She could share her skin care secrets. What does she do to stay looking so fabulous? She could do makeup tutorials. She could do fashion videos-hauls, makeovers, etc. She could do cute videos with her kids. She's apparently a wonderful cook, she could show her favorite recipes. She could dish Housewives tea. I could go on and on. 

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They keep referring to it as a stupid joke. What was the actual joke?


 

Garcelle: Sutton, what are you drinking, honey?

Sutton: Uh, the watermelon something.

G: There’s alcohol in it?

S: Yes.

G: Gotcha.

Dorit: Garcelle, didn’t you ask Sutton what she was drinking?

G: Yeah.

D: And you asked, is there alcohol in it? I mean- - I mean, honestly.

S: Oh, Dorit. Shut up. You’re such a bitch.

D: Excuse me?

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  On 2/19/2025 at 1:32 PM, JenE4 said:

I suppose the show forced Dorit to invite Sutton (and, likewise, forced Sutton to attend), and Dorit used the opportunity to take the upper hand of a “my house, my rules” dynamic. I would think it’s a power move to keep Sutton waiting by herself for over a half hour—but it is typical Dorit to be late because she’s so wrapped up in getting ready. 

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I thought this seemed an obvious case of production giving them different times to arrive!  Kyle came in and apologized for being late, but no one else was there for a while after that, and Dorit didn't even seem to realize that they had been there for more than a minute.  In spite of Sutton's heavy sighs 😄

 

  On 2/19/2025 at 5:57 PM, Chit Chat said:

I thought it was odd that Garcelle mentioned to Sutton there was alcohol in her drink.  I'm not accusing Sutton of having a problem with alcohol, but that little exchange between her & Garcelle seemed rather odd.

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  On 2/19/2025 at 6:30 PM, Chit Chat said:

Garcelle:  "Gotcha." 

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Garcelle's as much of a "shady lady" as the rest of them - she just gets away with it for some reason!

 

  On 2/19/2025 at 10:27 PM, bencr said:

5. Finally, Sutton't reaction to Dorit's lame, ill advised cracki. -- which everyone, even Garcelle, knew was a joke. Storming out in tears was so over the top that it brought me back to my first point -- that is, Sutton didn't want to be there n the first place and this was her opportunity to leave.

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6.  She didn't actually leave for ages, and enjoyed having the bulk of the televised guests surrounding her on the bench in the hallway by the door.  (Lisa Rinna in a past season actually told Sutton in front of everyone, "Get the fuck out of my house!" and she didn't leave)

 

  On 2/19/2025 at 11:35 PM, ww92 said:

That whole exchange was so bizarre. I know Dorit claimed she was joking around but it didn't come across like she was joking. Even Sutton looked like she couldn't figure out what was going on (Does she really think I'm going to give her my purse to keep?). Sutton should have snatched her purse back and then carried it with her everywhere she went, to keep it safe from Dorit.

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Haha I think Sutton did that! 😄. But I also think that whoever said that Dorit is bad at joking (Garcelle?) was right on!

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  On 2/19/2025 at 3:36 AM, bencr said:

True, Boz sometimes doesn't have all the context of the situations she inserts herself into.  But she just felt intuitively that you don't go to someone's house and congregate in the lobby talking crap and not participating in the party as guests.

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I feel intuitively that you don't invite people over to make them wait for 45 minutes, then grab their handbag and try and guilt trip them into giving you the bag. 😒

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  On 2/19/2025 at 9:03 PM, hoodooznoodooz said:

 

The very public break-up seemed to trigger some kind of terrible slob tendencies. She had packages and boxes everywhere. Left half-eaten food in her bedroom. Gifts of clothing everywhere. 

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Well we don't have to worry about any "half-eaten food" laying about; it looks like Dorit has completely stopped eating. Frankly, it's alarming.  Her bones protruding from her chest along side her massive fake breasts looked, honestly, painful.  Her back must hurt constantly from the imbalance in her weight.  Along with a divorce attorney, I sincerely hope she'll find a counselor.

She places so much of her identity on copying Kyle, I wish she'd follow Kyle's commitment to caring for her body; ditch the booze and focus on getting herself healthy. 

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  On 2/20/2025 at 2:21 PM, AnnMarie17 said:

Well we don't have to worry about any "half-eaten food" laying about; it looks like Dorit has completely stopped eating. Frankly, it's alarming.  Her bones protruding from her chest along side her massive fake breasts looked, honestly, painful.  Her back must hurt constantly from the imbalance in her weight.  Along with a divorce attorney, I sincerely hope she'll find a counselor.

She places so much of her identity on copying Kyle, I wish she'd follow Kyle's commitment to caring for her body; ditch the booze and focus on getting herself healthy. 

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Yes, she looks emaciated. Could be part of the “poor me” schtick she’s doing, but she looks awful. Surprising how she has pivoted from her “perfect me” image to this “poor me” image - I’m thinking the most real thing we’ve seen about Dorit is the nasty part that curses and gaslights.

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  On 2/19/2025 at 11:35 PM, ww92 said:

That whole exchange was so bizarre. I know Dorit claimed she was joking around but it didn't come across like she was joking. Even Sutton looked like she couldn't figure out what was going on (Does she really think I'm going to give her my purse to keep?). Sutton should have snatched her purse back and then carried it with her everywhere she went, to keep it safe from Dorit.

Boz has the most hideous taste. I can't believe that Dorit hasn't tried to restyle her. It must kill Dorit to have to keep her mouth shut about Boz's outfits.

The funniest part is that Boz was introduced to the group by Sutton. Supposedly they were friends. I think the producers picked the wrong HW to "friend" the newbie up with.

Besides Housewives, what could Dorit do for a living? I could see her doing something with fashion maybe?

She probably does have to move. The house is in foreclosure and she can't afford to make the payments, much less pay all of the past due amounts.

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Because Dorit has ZERO humor.  

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  On 2/20/2025 at 2:21 PM, AnnMarie17 said:

Well we don't have to worry about any "half-eaten food" laying about; it looks like Dorit has completely stopped eating. Frankly, it's alarming.  Her bones protruding from her chest along side her massive fake breasts looked, honestly, painful.  Her back must hurt constantly from the imbalance in her weight.  Along with a divorce attorney, I sincerely hope she'll find a counselor.

She places so much of her identity on copying Kyle, I wish she'd follow Kyle's commitment to caring for her body; ditch the booze and focus on getting herself healthy. 

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Brandi said on twitter that it looked like Dorit was doing strange things with her jaw.  Like one does when having had a bump or 2. Made me think of Rinna asking if that was done in Dorit's bathroom.  Rinna said in an interview that someone, wouldn't name who, had white stuff around their nostril which is why she said it.

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‘How do you think it feels when someone calls you a bitch’? How did you think Sutton felt when you tried to steal her purse. I have never, ever warmed up to Dorito since day one on this show. Glad Sutton left. 
I hope Boz is one and done, I really tried to like her but she’s bringing nothing to the show except being Doritos paid friend. It certainly isn’t for her sense of fashion. And the baby storyline is boring. 
The final scene with Kyle and Dorito talking about the state of the marriages was what I wanted all along, they are going through the same situation. Quit fighting and be friends. 

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  On 2/20/2025 at 7:52 PM, Straycat80 said:

I hope Boz is one and done, I really tried to like her but she’s bringing nothing to the show except being Doritos paid friend.

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I figure something will happen at some point that will change Boz's mind about Dorit.  That's usually the way things play out on the HWs shows.  It's junior high-level drama, especially the storming out and crying tantrums!

It's kind of funny to me watching Erika skate by all of the drama.  Can a girl just get a damn hot dog?  😉

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  On 2/20/2025 at 6:14 AM, princelina said:
  On 2/20/2025 at 6:14 AM, princelina said:
  On 2/19/2025 at 1:32 PM, JenE4 said:

I suppose the show forced Dorit to invite Sutton (and, likewise, forced Sutton to attend), and Dorit used the opportunity to take the upper hand of a “my house, my rules” dynamic. I would think it’s a power move to keep Sutton waiting by herself for over a half hour—but it is typical Dorit to be late because she’s so wrapped up in getting ready. 

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I thought this seemed an obvious case of production giving them different times to arrive! 

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I agree. The whole sequencing seemed weird. Are we really to believe that Sutton, who can't stand Dorit, would arrive so much earlier than the other housewives? And did no other guest show up in that 35 minute window? And if other guests did show up they didn't wait in the foyer ... so what did they do? And isn't it weird that the housewives who always coordinate everything and usually travel in packs didn't do so this time?

All the above could hypothetically happen, but it seems production driven. I'm guessing they told Sutton to come early.

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  On 2/20/2025 at 6:14 AM, princelina said:

Garcelle's as much of a "shady lady" as the rest of them - she just gets away with it for some reason!

 

6.  She didn't actually leave for ages, and enjoyed having the bulk of the televised guests surrounding her on the bench in the hallway by the door.  (Lisa Rinna in a past season actually told Sutton in front of everyone, "Get the fuck out of my house!" and she didn't leave)

 

Haha I think Sutton did that! 😄. But I also think that whoever said that Dorit is bad at joking (Garcelle?) was right on!

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I think it's because while Garcelle can be shady, she isn't cruel or a mean girl. The same can't be said for some of the others.

Yeah, I think Dorit is a beautiful woman who can be charming, but she has the worst sense of humor of all of them. I obviously enjoy Garcelle and Sutton, and they both regularly make me laugh. Kyle does the funniest impressions. Even Erika can give a funny talking head. Dorit's idea of joking is that weirdness with the purse and calling Camille the c word. Heck, even taking it back several seasons, Dorit also claimed to be joking when she gifted Erika underwear as a a joke and said "we've all seen your pretty little puss now." Why are her "jokes" always mean?

I'm binging Potomac right now, and I think one reason I enjoy it so much is because the women on it can be so funny. 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 9:39 PM, bencr said:

Who would do that? You could see the party going on outside. Go outside and greet your host later ... unless, of course, this was just a performative stunt to show how rude the host is.

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in her defense, it was 94 outside and HOT. I would have stayed inside too...

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  On 2/19/2025 at 10:27 PM, bencr said:

 

3. I don't think we saw how Dorit got the handbag, but I think we can assume that Dorit was making an awkward joke about how she was going to keep it. That's what people do sometimes as a compliment about how I wish it was mine. Instead, Sutton acted like she was the victim of a robbery, making the whole situation awkward.

 

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Sutton didn't make this awkward, Dorit did 100%. She looked dead serious and did not even crack a smile or laugh. It was weird and creepy to do to a house guest.

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  On 2/19/2025 at 1:20 AM, Stats Queen said:

Dorit is such a witch. Starting in on Sutton at the beginning of her party. 
 

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Dorit is looking super skinny this season. Is not eating making her mean? 

  On 2/19/2025 at 3:00 AM, Pi237 said:

In his mind, PJ is already divorced.  He’s not coming back. And Dorit is showing us why this season. She needles the Hell out of people. 

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Yep. I know PK is no prize either, but I'm more on his side here. 

  On 2/19/2025 at 6:31 AM, dancingdreamer said:

Dorit seemed  like she was on something,  illegal  or legal, her eyes were kind of wild looking.

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Maybe that is why Brandi Glanville tweeted Dorit was coked up LOL. Not saying Brandi is in any way credible though... 

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  On 2/19/2025 at 7:10 PM, bravofan27 said:

I don't think Boz has been hard on Kyle, I think that's just Boz and Kyle is not used to being around someone with a dominant approach. 

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One thing I'll say about Boz is she has an air of authority about her. I can see how it might intimidate or bother others. 

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  On 2/21/2025 at 6:12 PM, Sweet-tea said:

One thing I'll say about Boz is she has an air of authority about her. I can see how it might intimidate or bother others. 

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Absolutely. Boz has been a top executive at major companies. I don't think Kyle understands what that means. She's a stay-at-home mom, and most of her friends are as well. That's just what she knows. She dogged Camille from the jump because she had surrogates, and, from what is seems, is friends with people that have money that they access given marriage. Boz fits none of those categories. She is the real deal. Kyle just can't compute or get it. She also isn't very open minded or interested in learning, so I can see her writing Boz off and using her reactions/emotions to Boz's comments as believable. Boz is really the only self-made person that has ever been on RHBH. She has the confidence and can say what she wants because she's not worried or insecure about people liking her. Kyle is fixated on friendships and being supported. Boz doesn't need that. 

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  On 2/21/2025 at 5:59 PM, MissFeatherbottom said:

Sutton didn't make this awkward, Dorit did 100%. She looked dead serious and did not even crack a smile or laugh. It was weird and creepy to do to a house guest.

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Can you imagine if Sutton said "Ok, keep the bag," how would the other women react to Dorit? Would Dorit use that bag or sell on line?

Sutton could buy ten of those bags and feel the sting of a price tag.

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I'd be ok giving Boz one more season.  she'll have given up on the baby thing by then. And I can't imagine Dorit wouldn't have overstayed her welcome up her booty by then, as well.  

Love how my autocorrect constantly struggles with Dorit's name. It usually changes it to 'Dorito' or 'Don't.'

Are we going to see the remodel of Ericka's pool house before the season ends? Its the only thing about her I'm interested in. 

Don't think this cast is gelling this year. Something seems off. 

 

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  On 2/21/2025 at 6:22 PM, bravofan27 said:

Absolutely. Boz has been a top executive at major companies. I don't think Kyle understands what that means. She's a stay-at-home mom, and most of her friends are as well. That's just what she knows. She dogged Camille from the jump because she had surrogates, and, from what is seems, is friends with people that have money that they access given marriage. Boz fits none of those categories. She is the real deal. Kyle just can't compute or get it. She also isn't very open minded or interested in learning, so I can see her writing Boz off and using her reactions/emotions to Boz's comments as believable. Boz is really the only self-made person that has ever been on RHBH. She has the confidence and can say what she wants because she's not worried or insecure about people liking her. Kyle is fixated on friendships and being supported. Boz doesn't need that. 

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I can't see Kyle and Boz being besties of course, but didn't Kyle think they were friendly until she found out was Boz was saying about her?

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  On 2/21/2025 at 6:40 PM, Baltimore Betty said:

Can you imagine if Sutton said "Ok, keep the bag," how would the other women react to Dorit? Would Dorit use that bag or sell on line?

Sutton could buy ten of those bags and feel the sting of a price tag.

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I'm not sure she would use it. There is no horrible logo splashed across it! 😄

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  On 2/19/2025 at 3:23 AM, SouthernChick said:

Erika was right scolding Garcelle in her talking head for being Sutton’s mouthpiece when she accused Boz for sticking up for Dorit. Just wished she would have said it to her face.

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No, she wasn't, because Boz didn't even know what the heck was going on, per usual.

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  On 2/19/2025 at 5:57 PM, Chit Chat said:

I thought it was odd that Garcelle mentioned to Sutton there was alcohol in her drink.  I'm not accusing Sutton of having a problem with alcohol, but that little exchange between her & Garcelle seemed rather odd.

I was waiting for Dorit to laugh it off about wanting the purse, but she seemed dead serious, as in 'let's duel for this bag, bitch!'

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Garcelle just wanted to know what was in the drink in order to decide if she wanted one (watermelon something isn't very clear) and then Dorit immediately started shit. Garcelle and Sutton are true friends; she would never set her up like that.

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  On 2/21/2025 at 10:36 PM, politichick said:

Garcelle just wanted to know what was in the drink in order to decide if she wanted one (watermelon something isn't very clear) and then Dorit immediately started shit. Garcelle and Sutton are true friends; she would never set her up like that.

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Nor would she giggle over her opposite shoulder when Dorit started . . . oh wait, she did 😂

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