Mr. Miner February 12 Share February 12 (edited) I think I understand why Sutton’s father was chronically depressed. Edited February 12 by Mr. Miner 12 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/
ZettaK February 12 Share February 12 Description of the episode: Sutton takes Garcelle and Kyle to visit her childhood home as old wounds are reopened; Dorit and PK reconnect, but Erika senses a trap; Bozoma is ready for the next step of her fertility journey. 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578264
Surrealist February 12 Share February 12 Poor Sutton. I'm glad she's had a breakthrough regarding her survivor's guilt. I hadn't realized her father had been self-medicating with alcohol. It sounds as if he was a tormented soul for many years, if not for his entire life. That's sad. 11 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578266
Straycat80 February 12 Share February 12 I think I understand Reba better now. Garcelle figured it out. Plus Sutton’s Dad was mentally ill. Very sad. Don’t care about Boz’s fertility journey. I think that’s just her storyline for the season. 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578268
Popular Post Keywestclubkid February 12 Popular Post Share February 12 (edited) girl you don’t even tell each other you love each other but you wanna go through IVF and bring a child into this world? Boz…Boz… Boz … girl Edited February 12 by Keywestclubkid 14 8 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578274
Mr. Miner February 12 Author Share February 12 PJ’s living his best life in St. Tropez. Lol! 2 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578281
Stats Queen February 12 Share February 12 So Mauricio is going to be in Europe and is going to party with PK. I bet Kyle wishes she was invited. 11 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578284
WaltersHair February 12 Share February 12 Mo is taking Portia to Europe and then leaving her? Is this Taken 5? 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578285
Straycat80 February 12 Share February 12 1 minute ago, Mr. Miner said: PJ’s living his best life in St. Tropez. Lol! And so is Mo because he’s joining him there. Living the dream…. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578286
Keywestclubkid February 12 Share February 12 I could never do Avi’s job .. my mouth when the disrespect started would come out fast .. This you needing love seems to be an issue .. Jesus Christ Reba Being a psychologist wouldn’t she KNOW that her experiences are hers and her child could need something that’s is “trite” and that is a normal child want to have? Oh and we see where Sutton gets her heavy pour lol 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578288
Straycat80 February 12 Share February 12 I loved how Garcelle, Kyle and Avi were eavesdropping on Sutton and Reba’s conversation. Lol! Sutton and her mother’s relationship is what it is, like Kyle said Reba is 82 and you’re not going to change her. 17 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578297
Surrealist February 12 Share February 12 36 minutes ago, Straycat80 said: I think I understand Reba better now. Garcelle figured it out. Plus Sutton’s Dad was mentally ill. Very sad. Don’t care about Boz’s fertility journey. I think that’s just her storyline for the season. Yeah. Same. I hadn't even considered that Reba was in the house when Sutton's father died by suicide. I can't even imagine how one would deal with the loss and the aftermath. I still think she's a bit of a wench, but I understand certain aspects of her much better. 34 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said: girl you don’t even tell each other you love each other but you wanna go through IVF and bring a child into this world? Boz…Boz… Boz … girl I couldn't believe that Erika and I were in agreement on that. 😵💫 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578305
Pi237 February 12 Share February 12 I love Garcelle, but she had no right to corner Sutton's Mom like that. She's not part of the Housewives where sit downs are the thing. Confronting her could only have come across as a criticism. It was pretty rude, honestly. 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578310
Surrealist February 12 Share February 12 11 minutes ago, Straycat80 said: like Kyle said Reba is 82 and you’re not going to change her. I also believe Kyle was kind of talking about herself (with regard to Big Kathy) when she said that to Sutton. Obviously Kyle can't confront Big Kathy, but I suspect she's the most aware about how shitty of a person her mom was. I think (Little) Kathy reveres Big Kathy the most. 6 1 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578311
bencr February 12 Share February 12 Sutton's mother had no idea Sutton needed her affirmation, but Sutton DID need her mother's affirmation. So it was up to Sutton to initiate the conversation. I have no idea why it took her 20 years to do so. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578313
Pi237 February 12 Share February 12 Boz's daughter is really pretty and I loved that sweater she had on, the color was gorgeous. That's all I was concentrating on during their pointless conversation about babies...was Just trying to figure out what color blue that was.... I feel for Sutton, but I dont want to watch her processing the pain of her Dad's suicide. Kind of fast forwarding. That kind not pain isn't entertainment for me. Too real. Just want silly stuff and dumb fights and pretty decor. That's just me tho. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578316
ZettaK February 12 Share February 12 Erika's independence is priceless, as she claims in her opening credits? That's a joke, isn't? 8 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578317
JenE4 February 12 Share February 12 Poor Avi. Goes to show that Sutton is maybe a couple of clicks down from Mom, but the blunt control freak is still there regardless. Is it just my family in which all of the women get really crotchety in their 70s and 80s? Reba was a lot—but i wonder whether the filter is gone and she’s even worse now at 82 than maybe she even was before—and she sounded like she was pretty tough then. i know we’re questioning how this woman is a therapist…but the world of psychology was very different way back when Reba would have had her training. I can’t recall the differences of the old school guys like Freud, Skinner, Jung, et al. But I just imagine her in a lab coat with a clipboard running behavioral experiments like Pavlov. But, like, instead of rewards for conditioning Reba’s all about the negative reinforcement. I mean, sure, she somehow has managed to maintain a client base for 60 years, but maybe she works in one of those “wilderness camps” that Dr Phil would send troubled teens to, to basically torture them to knock the rebel out of them. I could see her as like a Scared Straight type “therapist.” 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578322
bencr February 12 Share February 12 Thank God we have come a long way in understanding depression in the period since Sutton's father killed himself. 4 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578327
Pi237 February 12 Share February 12 Dorit's bjg proclamations about every conversation she with PJ would annoy the hell out of me. Don't know how Boz continues to act so interested. Id be on my millionth, "That's crazy!" by now. And That wood fire pizza looked awful. Like a disc of dough. West coast, have you ever seen pizza? It probably had salmon on it. 7 2 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578349
Back Atcha February 12 Share February 12 2 hours ago, Mr. Miner said: PJ’s living his best life in St. Tropez. Lol! Is that YOU, Kathy? 2 hours ago, Surrealist said: Obviously Kyle can't confront Big Kathy, but I suspect she's the most aware about how shitty of a person her mom was. I think (Little) Kathy reveres Big Kathy the most. My mother was a hard-working valiant woman. She raised three girls on her own from their ages 4, 6, and 8. I'm the eldest; when I mentioned to my youngest sister that our mother "beat" us, she said, "Our mother never even spanked us!" Shocked, I said, "You were hit more than Pattee and I because you talked back and you had a temper." Then she said, "Well, not after we were 12yrs old." EGAD! So because she hit her kids before they were 12, it didn't count? Ahh...we all see our mother differently depending on our age and place in the family. My sister considers/considered our mother a saint. I was her able assistant and don't share that opinion. She had a difficult life and took it out on her children. 5 9 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578373
bravofan27 February 12 Share February 12 Garcelle really seemed to keep a close eye on Sutton during their trip. She was like glommed on to her the entire trip, waiting for her to come downstairs, following her around. She seemed anxious attached to her. I think Boz is really sweet and nice. Her daughter is so cool and pretty. Keely seems nice as well. Boz has a ton of energy and is very comfortable being herself-- she's very confident. I think that may be why Garcelle, Kyle, and Sutton haven't warmed up to her. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578386
princelina February 12 Share February 12 (edited) "Hi, I grew up in your house and my dad committed suicide there. Can I stop by with a couple of friends and some Bravo tv cameras for 'closure?'" Horrors! Somehow I'm still on Team Reba 😃 Edited February 12 by princelina 5 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578397
dancingdreamer February 12 Share February 12 I had forgotten Suttons father shot himself, how awful for all of them. Depression is so debilitating, and trying to find the right dose of medications, is tedious. At least it's understood more today, it's a serious disease. I could feel how much loss Sutton felt for her father, as old as I am, I miss mine terribly. Especially if you're closer to your father, than your mother. I think Reba and Sutton opened up a little more towards the end, that's so good. I said last week something about Reba's upbringing, and she mentioned it tonight. Boz has only known Keely for 8 months, and we're talking babies, come on. . Boz has a beautiful, intelligent daughter, doesn’t she? Dorit, she's so flighty, now PK is chatting away, and she seems pleased. Has she forgotten the ten year mark? Listen to Boz, she made sense. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578403
ZettaK February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, WaltersHair said: Mo is taking Portia to Europe and then leaving her? Is this Taken 5? He is going to take her to a friend of hers, after they spend some time together (according to the previous episode). I assume the parents of the friend are with her. Edited February 12 by ZettaK 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578412
ZettaK February 12 Share February 12 I think Dorit hoped for a reconciliation because PK talked to her. Keeley not saying he loves Boz is a red flag. The episode was heavy on the depression storyline. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578428
hoodooznoodooz February 12 Share February 12 5 hours ago, ZettaK said: Erika's independence is priceless, as she claims in her opening credits? That's a joke, isn't it?!? . . . . . . . . Sigh. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578436
Chatty Cake February 12 Share February 12 This episode taking place mostly in Augusta with Sutton, Garcelle and Kyle was much better. Having less Dorit is a plus. Reba didn’t seem as bad. I hope Avi is well compensated for all that he endures on a daily. Boz isn’t landing. Several housewives have pretended to want to have a baby at an older age and it’s a boring stupid storyline. Her giant boobs are always on display and she looks ridiculous most of the time. The whole thing about Keely showing up on her Guana trip with her daughter sounded creepy (unless she knew about it and didn’t tell viewers) Is Erika updating a rental or does she own it? She can stop with pretending she pulled herself out of a dark loveless marriage. If she had left Tom well before the shit hit the fan she might be able to sell that. 17 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578448
Keywestclubkid February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, ZettaK said: He is going to take her to a friend of hers, after they spend some time together (according to the previous episode). I assume the parents of the friend are with her. I thought Kyle mentioned it was a chaperoned thing there and Mo was just going with them over to hang a day or two and then leave Edited February 12 by Keywestclubkid 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578450
Mindthinkr February 12 Share February 12 When Reba said “Well that’s a thousand dollars” (paraphrasing) after talking to Garcelle I thought wow. Must be nice to have a thriving private practice and earn 1k per hour and have your daughter subsidize your living expenses (home, taxes on said home and goodness what else). I’d think with all that money she could have dressed a bit better. I also think she just went through the motions with Sutton and told her what she thought would placate her and end the discussion about whether or not she really cared or loved her daughter. 5 2 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578475
Pi237 February 12 Share February 12 11 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: I could never do Avi’s job .. my mouth when the disrespect started would come out fast .. I'd be fired in minutes. It seems they have that kind of dynamic, one where they take sarcastic jabs at each other, but as long as one is dependent on the other for their income, that kind of treatment is Not ok. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578488
Baltimore Betty February 12 Share February 12 2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said: I thought Kyle mentioned it was a chaperoned thing there and Mo was just going with them over to hang a day or two and then leave Wait, he was going to leave his 16 year old and friends alone in London or Paris or wherever they were going? That could be a "tooken" situation, nobody wants to get tooken. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578518
Keywestclubkid February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said: Wait, he was going to leave his 16 year old and friends alone in London or Paris or wherever they were going? That could be a "tooken" situation, nobody wants to get tooken. It was chaperoned by other adults I think it was a school thing or something .. lol there is no way Kyle would let her precious child out of her sight without adult supervision lol ......... I’m sorry only a cold ass person could see their child saying I just need to feel love from you can you just tell me you love me and make that a bad thing .. the fact Reba even flashed back to her own childhood and her need for love that obviously her parents didn’t give (that she must have wanted) cause if not why even bring it up to defend your shitty lack of emotional support for your child ( well I needed the same thing and my parents didn't give it to me so im gonna shit on you the same way isnt an excuse) … I think love and support emotionally is trite so I didn’t give it to you is FUCKED... and handwaving well thats just her and she's old she won't change doesn't to me excuse it ... As a parent wouldn't you be like OH MY GOD this is what you need let me give it to you ... Telling your child you love them isnt a chore you don't have to go out of your way to say it .... you are just being a bitch by now stubbornly NOT doing it to be a bitch telling your child to their face I don't care im not gonna do it shows the kind of parent they are COLD and CARELESS .. Sutton wasn't asking for money or anything other then a simple I love you ... Reba acting like that is just beyond to do is just gross to me this isnt some stranger or someone you don't know its your fucking CHILD she can kick fucking rocks and SUTTON still going out of her way to take care of her she doesn't deserve Edited February 12 by Keywestclubkid 6 3 2 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578528
twilightzone February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 16 hours ago, Straycat80 said: I think I understand Reba better now. Garcelle figured it out. Plus Sutton’s Dad was mentally ill. Very sad. It's why I always saw Garcelle as the voice of reason for viewers. She had the good grace to understand there really is no Team Sutton or Team Reba. That they were all victims of what happened - and the lifelong scars they carry. Kyle really didn't add anything on the trip. Erika would have been more interesting, considering her Southern upbringing and her own struggles with her mother. Edited February 12 by twilightzone 9 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578619
Keywestclubkid February 12 Share February 12 (edited) and im sorry did Sutton say reba made her make her dads recipe the day after he died for a party or whatever? WHAT THE ACTUAL WHAT? lets traumatize the girl more ... im sorry her mom is a bitch Edited February 12 by Keywestclubkid 10 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578630
politichick February 12 Share February 12 3 hours ago, Mindthinkr said: When Reba said “Well that’s a thousand dollars” (paraphrasing) after talking to Garcelle I thought wow. Must be nice to have a thriving private practice and earn 1k per hour and have your daughter subsidize your living expenses (home, taxes on said home and goodness what else). I’d think with all that money she could have dressed a bit better. I also think she just went through the motions with Sutton and told her what she thought would placate her and end the discussion about whether or not she really cared or loved her daughter. I'm pretty sure she was joking about the $1k. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578634
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 14 hours ago, bencr said: I have no idea why it took her 20 years to do so. 20 years and a TV show. I thought Reba made a good point; nothing she did prevented Sutton from doing what she wanted to do, like stay home with her kids. Still, I think it's good Sutton is trying to resolve her issues with her mother for her own sake. At 82 time is limited and ideally she doesn't want to leave things unsaid. Edited February 12 by Cosmocrush 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578639
Mr. Miner February 12 Author Share February 12 Next week looks promising. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578642
Keywestclubkid February 12 Share February 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said: 20 years and a TV show. I thought Reba made a good point; nothing she did prevented Sutton from doing what she wanted to do, like stay home with her kids. Still, I think it's good Sutton is trying to resolve her issues with her mother for her own sake. At 82 time is limited and ideally she doesn't want to leave things unsaid. While I can see Reba's narcissistic way of trying to deflect from her poor parenting its just her trying to excuse what she did ... well you still achieved something in life .. and you were still a shit parent one doesn't have anything to do with the other in this situation ... its in spite of what you did to me that I thrived NOT because but def good for Sutton for at least getting it out .. even if her mom still won't tell her I love you cause its "trite" ( God that still pisses me off to no end ) it is Healthy to at least have that off her chest Upside tho was less focus on Dorit and droning on and on about PK and her marriage made me enjoy the episode Edited February 12 by Keywestclubkid 11 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578651
AnnMarie17 February 12 Share February 12 51 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said: Next week looks promising. Oh dear....this is the evil cursed hope that's kept me tuning in for almost twenty YEARS (next year is 20 years since OC debuted). RUN Mr. Miner...RUN and don't ever look back! 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578678
Pi237 February 12 Share February 12 I can't stand when people thank their abusers for making them 'strong.' it Validates their behavior, and it makes me so sad for them. I'm not saying you should carry hate and anger, but don't give credit to the feet that held you underwater just because you managed not to drown. 2 7 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578679
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 15 hours ago, JenE4 said: Poor Avi. Avi's title this week was Operations Manager (whatever that means) but he seems more like someone for Sutton to order around. Grocery delivery, clothing consultant and packer, butler, bartender, companion, dog walker, etc. I wonder if he must have an assistant of his own. Reba's blunt rudeness is certainly something Sutton has been known to share. Besides the flashbacks showing this I remember one of the first scenes we got with Sutton was her telling a pregnant Teddi she thought she was boring upon meeting her for the first time. I think it made a hormonal Teddi cry didn't it? I don't remember Sutton ever apologizing for that, but I hope I'm wrong. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578702
Chit Chat February 12 Share February 12 15 hours ago, Surrealist said: I'm glad she's had a breakthrough regarding her survivor's guilt. I would assume that Reba has a fair amount of guilt too, but she doesn't show it. I wonder if Sutton ever asks her how she's doing in that regard. I hate that Sutton has resentment towards her mom because there was a loaded gun in the house while her dad was struggling. She couldn't have predicted that he'd kill himself. He may have reacted very badly if she had taken the gun away. Reba probably did the best she could given the circumstances. I wasn't there, so I can't judge her for her actions or lack thereof, but I can see that it was complicated. Mental illness with loved ones can be very difficult. Treatment for mental illness wasn't too good up until the 2000's (going by what I saw with my MIL). Yeah, Reba is tough, and I'm not saying that everything she did was right but knowing that she grew up during the post WWII days explains a lot to me. My mom was a child in those days, and she told me how tough those times were, but it was something that everybody just dealt with. There were rations; shortages; everything going towards the war effort. People were united on that front. People didn't sit around and discuss their feelings or get coddled. You did what you had to do in order to survive. You got on with the chores, etc. of the day. Sutton said that she needs to hear her mother say she's proud of her and loves her. She might need to accept that Reba isn't capable of that. Maybe she shows it in other ways and Sutton doesn't recognize it. My mom wasn't like Reba, but she was emotionally reserved. She showed me in many other ways that she loved me and that was enough. I don't think Sutton should've had that conversation with her mom while being filmed. Also, Garcelle was way out of line in her conversation with Reba. You don't talk to someone else's mother or father like that. 1 minute ago, Cosmocrush said: Avi's title this week was Operations Manager (whatever that means) but he seems more like someone for Sutton to order around. Sutton is flat-out rude to him at times. 🥺 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578704
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 12 minutes ago, Chit Chat said: I hate that Sutton has resentment towards her mom because there was a loaded gun in the house while her dad was struggling. And 23 years is a long time to carry that around. I've seen this in many people whose loved one died by suicide. Often survivors of suicide need someone to blame, even if it's themselves or the person who was in so much pain they couldn't see another way out. I think grief counseling would help and it's never too late. 7 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578727
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 8 hours ago, Chatty Cake said: Is Erika updating a rental or does she own it? She can stop with pretending she pulled herself out of a dark loveless marriage. If she had left Tom well before the shit hit the fan she might be able to sell that. Amen. It's definitely a rental. Her attempt to rewrite history is insulting to viewers. 10 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578759
bencr February 12 Share February 12 I like Boz quite a bit. True, her storylines are not that compelling. But I think her commentary is interesting. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578787
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 16 hours ago, Pi237 said: And That wood fire pizza looked awful. Like a disc of dough. West coast, have you ever seen pizza? It probably had salmon on it. Most of it was uneaten on their plates. They keep ordering the carbs but I don't think they eat them. I don't think Dorit eats at all. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578795
Popular Post Book Junkie February 12 Popular Post Share February 12 1 hour ago, Chit Chat said: I would assume that Reba has a fair amount of guilt too, but she doesn't show it. I wonder if Sutton ever asks her how she's doing in that regard. I hate that Sutton has resentment towards her mom because there was a loaded gun in the house while her dad was struggling. She couldn't have predicted that he'd kill himself. He may have reacted very badly if she had taken the gun away. Reba probably did the best she could given the circumstances. I wasn't there, so I can't judge her for her actions or lack thereof, but I can see that it was complicated. Mental illness with loved ones can be very difficult. Treatment for mental illness wasn't too good up until the 2000's (going by what I saw with my MIL). Yeah, Reba is tough, and I'm not saying that everything she did was right but knowing that she grew up during the post WWII days explains a lot to me. My mom was a child in those days, and she told me how tough those times were, but it was something that everybody just dealt with. There were rations; shortages; everything going towards the war effort. People were united on that front. People didn't sit around and discuss their feelings or get coddled. You did what you had to do in order to survive. You got on with the chores, etc. of the day. Sutton said that she needs to hear her mother say she's proud of her and loves her. She might need to accept that Reba isn't capable of that. Maybe she shows it in other ways and Sutton doesn't recognize it. My mom wasn't like Reba, but she was emotionally reserved. She showed me in many other ways that she loved me and that was enough. I don't think Sutton should've had that conversation with her mom while being filmed. Also, Garcelle was way out of line in her conversation with Reba. You don't talk to someone else's mother or father like that. Sutton is flat-out rude to him at times. 🥺 I wondered about the bolded part, myself. I had no idea Reba was in the house when Sutton's dad completed. I thought he was alone because I remember Sutton saying last season that she was supposed to see her dad when he killed himself, but something came up and she told him that she was going to be a couple of hours late or something, and then he killed himself during that time between her calling him and getting to the house. I thought Reba found him, but didn't think she was actually in the house. I guarantee you Reba has all the guilt in the world. My husband shot himself while I was asleep down the hall, and I found him when I woke up after our dog jumped on me. Rationally, I couldn't have known as he was fine and normal when we went to bed and he was never like how Sutton described her dad. But, in my vulnerable moments, I can't help but wonder if I had just woken up sooner. Grief is not rational, but it really bothered me that Sutton sounded like she was blaming her mom since she was in the house. Nobody wins at the blame game. This was a very moving, but very tough episode for me to watch. 1 36 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578822
Cosmocrush February 12 Share February 12 I was confused by Sutton's sustainable, green clothing line: 1) Made with real leather? 2)Doesn't care where it comes from or where it's made? 3)Then it's sold in a high end Beverly Hills boutique to women who have to have it and made to feel like they are doing something good? Isn't the idea of a fashion capsule to downsize your wardrobe? I don't get the sustainable, green part. At least she didn't throw "fair trade" into her buzzword description. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578834
Chit Chat February 12 Share February 12 17 minutes ago, Book Junkie said: Grief is not rational, but it really bothered me that Sutton sounded like she was blaming her mom since she was in the house. I'm so sorry for what you've been through. I hope that Sutton has more sympathy for her mom and what she went through than what she showed on TV. My SIL deals with guilt (for a different reason) and it's been 20 years, but she still struggles with how she handled her situation, even though the EMTs assured her she did everything she could. There are really no words to console a person when the "what ifs" hit. Sigh. Hugs to everyone dealing with that. ❤️ 4 1 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151850-s14e11-mind-your-business/#findComment-8578847
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