Neptune February 6 Share February 6 “It’s the End of the World as We Know It and What Were We Talking About?” – Flower interferes with the opening of Jay’s restaurant based on a prophecy from her old cult leader. Feb 13 WRITTEN BY: Kira Kalush DIRECTED BY: Rebecca Asher 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/
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incandescent Friday at 02:10 AM Share Friday at 02:10 AM Trevor and Hetty's mean-girl-ery was sooooo fun I also loved some different basement ghosts getting a moment to shine. 4 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580373
Annber03 Friday at 02:12 AM Share Friday at 02:12 AM "We're still following laws this fool made." Just one of many great one-liners tongiht. Ahhhhhh, this was such a fun episode! Poor Flower, having to get a crash course as she did in how scummy and scammy Bruce and the cult were. I felt for her with her guilt over nearly messing up the restaurant opening. I liked how the others helped her feel better, though. And I especially loved how they all rallied together to help the opening be a success*. So fun to see Mark and Bela working alongside Jay and Sam, and I love that Flower had the great idea to have the ghosts help Jay as they did, too. Jay getting to stand in front of the customers and welcome them to the opening of his restaurant actually gave me a slight lump in my throat. He's worked so hard for this and I'm so happy to see his dream finally coming true. *Right up until someone walked through Isaac, that is :p. Loved that callback to Hetty's comment earlier in the episode. Poor Isaac. Mind, at least his power doesn't cause people to briefly be infected with cholera, so...there's one upsdie? So wild that that's how we found out about the basement ghosts' collective power. Also enjoyed everyone battling it out to get a prime seat at hte ghost table :D. And it led to some interesting and much needed conversation for Trevor and Hetty, too. I like the "power firends" set up for them - leave it to Hetty to decide it's better for them to team up and scheme against the other ghosts instead of each other :p. I wondered if they were going to make a "Bear" reference given the premise of this episode, and indeed they did! Shots fired, "Ghosts" XD! I've never seen "The Bear" but I know about all hte complaints regarding it being labeled as a comedy, so that line still made me cackle all the same. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580378
phalange Friday at 02:27 AM Share Friday at 02:27 AM “It’s like that show The Bear, but it’s a comedy.” lmao I also love that Thor continues to roast Alberta about her hat. Flower was a little misguided but her heart was in the right place, and it was sweet that Sam and the others helped her see the truth about that. The basement ghosts having a ghost power that’s just giving people non contagious 24 hour cholera is hilarious. Hetty and Trevor teaming up to act superior to the other ghosts makes sense, though I wonder if Isaac will feel left out considering he also sees himself that way. On the other hand, he might be too preoccupied with the restaurant right now. Love the Ratatouille callback at the end with Sam, Bela, Mark, and the ghosts helping Jay with opening night. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580392
chaifan Friday at 02:51 AM Share Friday at 02:51 AM Yeah! The restaurant is finally open! The zings at The Bear were great. I really was expecting some sort of reference to the abundance of shrimp they have from last episode. Mark wondering how Sam was able to keep track of everything and Bela shutting him down as being sexist was hilarious. I like the recurring theme of that with him, especially since he's the least sexist character on tv. I really haven't noticed any rift between Trevor and Hettie. Has that been a thing this season, or was that a little retconned for this episode? I'm wondering what would happen if Flower walked through someone who was already stoned. Would it cancel it out? or would they just be doubly stoned for a few minutes? They really need to relegate all the ghosts - especially the basement ghosts and Isaac - to that little upstairs balcony area. That's where they should have put the ghost table. It's a nice viewing spot. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580412
shura Friday at 03:01 AM Share Friday at 03:01 AM I can’t remember, what was the big reason Trevor broke up with Hetty? She hit on Thor somehow? I vaguely recall someone testing someone else on fidelity, was that it? Why did Trevor take it for more than what it was? The restaurant looks like a barn. I’d need a really good reason to give it a try, and just being a restaurant that looks like a barn is not it. ”… but I believe everything, which we are now framing as a good quality.” Loved Bruce’s crazy eyes. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580417
ams1001 Friday at 03:04 AM Share Friday at 03:04 AM Your new cult names are...Sunrise, and Male # 28. "Wait, what?" "I have a lot of repressed rage..." I feel ya', Pete. 4 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580420
Annber03 Friday at 03:09 AM Share Friday at 03:09 AM 4 minutes ago, shura said: I can’t remember, what was the big reason Trevor broke up with Hetty? She hit on Thor somehow? I vaguely recall someone testing someone else on fidelity, was that it? Why did Trevor take it for more than what it was? Yeah, back when the other ghosts thought Flower had been sucked off, they learned that other partners of Thor's had been sucked off in the past as well. So Hetty, in a bid to hopefully get sucked off herself, decided to make a show of hitting on Thor to see if it would work (and Alberta did the same, thus leading to a little competition between them). Trevor saw this and confronted Hetty about it and he ended things with her after that. And wow, did I use the term "sucked off" a lot in this post :p. 11 1 2 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580423
PaulE Friday at 03:43 AM Share Friday at 03:43 AM Kudos to Sam for finally sticking up for Jay and getting angry that Flower ruined something that was so important to him instead of just trying to make excuses for her--though I also liked the fact that she couldn't stay angry with her and came to make up, realizing that Flower meant well. And double kudos for her taking the bullet for Isaac's stench instead of blaming it on Jay. It was a poignant moment when Flower revealed that she knew all along that no one took her seriously and the others talked up her good qualities. Also, it was heartwarming to see how the ghosts pitched in to make Jay's opening night a success. When Jay gave his speech about family, he was including the ghosts, even though only Sam and Bela would have realized that. I imagine he thinks of them more as family now because he was able to see them, however briefly, and so they're real in a way they weren't quite before. It really was a very nice episode about family coming together, caring about each other, and helping each other in a pinch. I especially liked the fact that, in this case, "family" wasn't rigidly defined as "relatives." 14 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580460
ItCouldBeWorse Friday at 04:12 AM Share Friday at 04:12 AM It was nice, but if I were a real chef, I might be annoyed at the conceit that amateur cooks could function as well as experienced restaurant line chefs (even a stoned one), as long as the head chef knows exactly what each of them is up to at every moment. They still need knife skills, sauteing skills etc. And the ability to work quickly and consistently. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580483
kathyk2 Friday at 05:26 AM Share Friday at 05:26 AM I love this show so much. I don't want to think about what Bruce did with the women in the cult. I think Flower has been under used so it was nice to see her get a lead role in this episode. Shelia really can speak Spanish so that was a nice touch. I can't believe we saw the cholera ghosts power before Hetty's. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580526
Harvey Friday at 06:51 AM Share Friday at 06:51 AM I am glad they called out The Bear. That show is so lame. 1 3 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580564
Annber03 Friday at 06:53 AM Share Friday at 06:53 AM I've never seen it, but I am familiar with all the controversy around it being classified as a comedy, so I still got a good laugh out of that line :D. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580568
Bastet Friday at 08:23 AM Share Friday at 08:23 AM (edited) "It's like that show The Bear, but it's a comedy." I tried 2-1/2 episodes and could not stand it, so I don't agree with all the people who love it, but I am all in with the "It's not a comedy!" protests. That was a great shot from a show that actually should be in the running for Outstanding Comedy awards. Hetty manipulating Isaac, followed by Trevor outmaneuvering her had some great lines (I particularly liked "T-new money"), but Trevor's grudge seemed to come out of nowhere. Oh, well - I love the power friends alliance it all resulted in; fits their personalities perfectly. "Now we sit and await opportunities to be better than other people." Edited Friday at 09:48 PM by Bastet 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580595
ItCouldBeWorse Friday at 08:32 AM Share Friday at 08:32 AM 6 hours ago, Annber03 said: Also enjoyed everyone battling it out to get a prime seat at hte ghost table :D. And it led to some interesting and much needed conversation for Trevor and Hetty, too. I like the "power firends" set up for them - leave it to Hetty to decide it's better for them to team up and scheme against the other ghosts instead of each other :p. I actually thought that after deciding to become a team for scheming purposes, they were also going to decide to hook up again. 6 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580600
bad things are bad Friday at 11:56 AM Share Friday at 11:56 AM I do like The Bear a lot, but it most definitely is NOT a comedy. That was a great little dig 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580636
Starchild Friday at 02:16 PM Share Friday at 02:16 PM 8 hours ago, kathyk2 said: I can't believe we saw the cholera ghosts power before Hetty's. At this point, she better be able to go back in time 5 min or something 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580710
PaulE Friday at 02:28 PM Share Friday at 02:28 PM 5 hours ago, Bastet said: Hetty manipulating Isaac, in turn Trevor manipulating her with umpteen layer of ghost deception -- everyone fucking everyone else over only worked to an extent. I was glad that, for once, Hetty didn’t end up with the upper hand. As others have said, I didn’t realize she and Trevor had become sort of estranged. The fact that he was hurt by that shows he cares more than he’d like everyone to believe. 9 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580721
appositival Friday at 02:56 PM Share Friday at 02:56 PM It bothered me that no one talked to Flower about the world ending. I know she tends to babble, but she was really worried about this. If a meteor shower was headed towards Earth, astronomers would have let us know long before it happened. It's not like the meteors could sneak up on us. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580742
iMonrey Friday at 04:02 PM Share Friday at 04:02 PM I wasn't sold on the premise of this. How was shutting down the restaurant supposed to prevent the world from ending? And if Flower's goal was just to get Sam and Jay in the basement, how was shutting down the restaurant going to accomplish that? They still didn't believe her, and since she believed all humanity would be wiped out, what difference would it make whether or not Sam and Jay were in the basement? It also seems unlikely that Flower would remember the exact date the world was supposed to end given her memory, or that it would stick with her. Also, if the basement ghosts can give (temporary) cholera to the livings by walking through them, why didn't Sam have cholera when Nancy possessed her? I assume being inside a living would accomplish the same thing as walking through them. I did chuckle at the shot at The Bear though, and the running gag of shutting Mark down from asking questions by accusing him of being sexist. "I've heard about you." Poor Mark. He has to eventually find out about the ghosts. Freddie (the short-lived assistant) figured it out pretty fast. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580799
ItCouldBeWorse Friday at 04:14 PM Share Friday at 04:14 PM 3 minutes ago, iMonrey said: I wasn't sold on the premise of this. How was shutting down the restaurant supposed to prevent the world from ending? And if Flower's goal was just to get Sam and Jay in the basement, how was shutting down the restaurant going to accomplish that? They still didn't believe her, and since she believed all humanity would be wiped out, what difference would it make whether or not Sam and Jay were in the basement? Perhaps Flower was concerned that if the restaurant stayed open, it would be overrun by new ghosts after the meteor strike! And it's a very strong basement. Jay and Sam would then proceed to repopulate the world. (I noticed too that Flower didn't even mention saving Bela.) 7 minutes ago, iMonrey said: Also, if the basement ghosts can give (temporary) cholera to the livings by walking through them, why didn't Sam have cholera when Nancy possessed her? I assume being inside a living would accomplish the same thing as walking through them. This. Also, I guess the restaurant patrons are fortunate that Isaac only stinks up the place, and doesn't transmit dysentery. But now there's also an excellent reason to keep the cholera ghosts out of the restaurant-so no living accidentally sits on one of them at the table/walks through them and gets sick. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580807
Gregg247 Friday at 04:33 PM Share Friday at 04:33 PM I'm starting to question Mark's skills as a contractor. First, he transformed the dusty old outdated main house into a --just as dusty looking, old, outdated -- B&B. Then he took an old barn and converted it into - an old barn with some kitchen appliances (did they even bother putting in a solid floor?). Fun episode! I'm glad Jay has something more to do on the show than just sit there while Sam talks to all the ghosts and conveys to him what they're talking about. I hope the restaurant works out as it doesn't seem like that many people are staying at the B&B! 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580827
seacliffsal Friday at 04:53 PM Share Friday at 04:53 PM I am so alone at my table with my unpopular opinion that I can't stand Flower and this episode so reinforced that. This episode had so many good moments and she just ruined it for me. Smashing someone's dream just isn't a 'fun' moment for me. Jay is such a good sport and he must have been heartbroken albeit temporarily. Again, lots of good in this episode. 11 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580842
proserpina65 Friday at 05:18 PM Share Friday at 05:18 PM "Ratatouille?" "It's like The Bear, only a comedy." As Emerill LaGasse would say, BAM! 10 hours ago, Harvey said: I am glad they called out The Bear. That show is so lame. It might be a good show, but it is most definitely NOT a comedy. 1 hour ago, iMonrey said: I wasn't sold on the premise of this. How was shutting down the restaurant supposed to prevent the world from ending? And if Flower's goal was just to get Sam and Jay in the basement, how was shutting down the restaurant going to accomplish that? They still didn't believe her, and since she believed all humanity would be wiped out, what difference would it make whether or not Sam and Jay were in the basement? As I understood it, shutting down the restaurant wasn't supposed to prevent the world from ending but it would make it possible to get Sam and Jay to go down to the basement for their own protection if they weren't working in the restaurant. I mean, it's Flower, after all, so her less than well-thought out logic is part of the package. 43 minutes ago, Gregg247 said: I hope the restaurant works out as it doesn't seem like that many people are staying at the B&B! I'm hoping the restaurant is a success and brings more business to the B&B. Because I'd love to see more guests, even if they're just passing through a scene. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580856
Snow Apple Friday at 05:30 PM Share Friday at 05:30 PM 1 hour ago, ItCouldBeWorse said: (I noticed too that Flower didn't even mention saving Bela.) She probably forgot about Bela. She can't even remember Jay and need to be reminded every time she sees him. 34 minutes ago, seacliffsal said: I am so alone at my table with my unpopular opinion that I can't stand Flower and this episode so reinforced that. This episode had so many good moments and she just ruined it for me. Smashing someone's dream just isn't a 'fun' moment for me. Jay is such a good sport and he must have been heartbroken albeit temporarily. Again, lots of good in this episode. I use to like Flower and she still has her good moments but she's getting tiresome with her spacy antics, especially with her obsession with threesomes. I still love the moment with Pete when she told him that he can talk about sports with her. That's the Flower I want. She's been Flanderized. 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580861
kathyk2 Friday at 06:16 PM Share Friday at 06:16 PM 3 hours ago, appositival said: It bothered me that no one talked to Flower about the world ending. I know she tends to babble, but she was really worried about this. If a meteor shower was headed towards Earth, astronomers would have let us know long before it happened. It's not like the meteors could sneak up on us. I agree with you. They just had to tell her that February 13th. happens more than once a year. She would have forgotten about Bruce by then. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8580893
Chit Chat Friday at 09:16 PM Share Friday at 09:16 PM I'm surprised no one has explained to Flower how brainwashed she was being in the cult. They could've shown her some old footage of Jim Jones and his Kool-Aid drinking followers and the aftermath of that. Maybe she would've figured it out! Seems like she would've been aware of that tragedy though. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581019
Bastet Friday at 09:55 PM Share Friday at 09:55 PM 5 hours ago, iMonrey said: the running gag of shutting Mark down from asking questions by accusing him of being sexist. "I've heard about you." Poor Mark. That cracked me up; they are doing a good job with that running gag. It's something that can easily go wrong, coming across as denying subconscious bias, but they're nailing it. 4 hours ago, proserpina65 said: As I understood it, shutting down the restaurant wasn't supposed to prevent the world from ending but it would make it possible to get Sam and Jay to go down to the basement for their own protection if they weren't working in the restaurant. I mean, it's Flower, after all, so her less than well-thought out logic is part of the package. Yeah, her plan was to prevent the restaurant from opening so Sam and Jay would change their minds about sheltering in the basement since now they didn't have anyplace else to be. With the way she took the cult leader's words literally, to her so long as they were not on the surface, they could just walk back up hunky dory after the meteorites stopped falling, so all she had to do to save their lives was get them into the basement. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581044
Orcinus orca Friday at 10:13 PM Share Friday at 10:13 PM This was one of the weaker stories for sure when it comes to making sense. Although I loved the cult leader and his naming ceremony. "Male #25". 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581055
Skooma Friday at 11:02 PM Share Friday at 11:02 PM 1 hour ago, Chit Chat said: I'm surprised no one has explained to Flower how brainwashed she was being in the cult. They could've shown her some old footage of Jim Jones and his Kool-Aid drinking followers and the aftermath of that. Maybe she would've figured it out! Seems like she would've been aware of that tragedy though. She died stoned. She can't remember who Jay is half the time. Logic wouldn't work. Remembering anything said or shown to her wouldn't work. It's really no real problem and she's fine in her own head space when not trying to shut down restaurants to save lives. 😄 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581093
Annber03 Friday at 11:37 PM Share Friday at 11:37 PM 1 hour ago, Orcinus orca said: Although I loved the cult leader and his naming ceremony. "Male #25". When I was watching that scene, all I could think was, "I've seen true crime stories that started out like this. It never ended well for anyone in them." 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581107
PaulE Saturday at 12:04 AM Share Saturday at 12:04 AM 19 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said: It was nice, but if I were a real chef, I might be annoyed at the conceit that amateur cooks could function as well as experienced restaurant line chefs (even a stoned one), as long as the head chef knows exactly what each of them is up to at every moment. They still need knife skills, sauteing skills etc. And the ability to work quickly and consistently. Yeah, that was definitely a hand-wave. I mean, sure, I can cook but I'm slow in the kitchen (I always laugh at the prep times given in recipes) because I just don't have the techniques that professionals have. Even with the ghosts' help it was a stretch. But it did at least result in a happy ending. And I'm really stoked that the restaurant has finally opened! We've been waiting for it so long that it seemed it might never become a reality. I wonder if the writers will center some episodes around it, which would be a change from the mansion-centric focus so far. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581125
Orcinus orca Saturday at 12:38 AM Share Saturday at 12:38 AM 33 minutes ago, PaulE said: I wonder if the writers will center some episodes around it, which would be a change from the mansion-centric focus so far. No reason not to since the ghosts can go there. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581147
Chit Chat Saturday at 12:40 AM Share Saturday at 12:40 AM 1 hour ago, Skooma said: She died stoned. She can't remember who Jay is half the time. Every time she brings up the cult (which she seems to remember quite well!), someone needs to remind her that the leader was a con man. Maybe it'll eventually sink in, and she'll remember that part of the story more often! :) 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581149
kathyk2 Saturday at 02:19 AM Share Saturday at 02:19 AM 2 hours ago, PaulE said: Yeah, that was definitely a hand-wave. I mean, sure, I can cook but I'm slow in the kitchen (I always laugh at the prep times given in recipes) because I just don't have the techniques that professionals have. Even with the ghosts' help it was a stretch. But it did at least result in a happy ending. And I'm really stoked that the restaurant has finally opened! We've been waiting for it so long that it seemed it might never become a reality. I wonder if the writers will center some episodes around it, which would be a change from the mansion-centric focus so far. I think the restaurant would have opened earlier if the writer's strike hadn't happened. I like that the showrunners have a clear plan for Ghosts and are sticking to it. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581324
kathyk2 Saturday at 02:27 AM Share Saturday at 02:27 AM 8 hours ago, Snow Apple said: She probably forgot about Bela. She can't even remember Jay and need to be reminded every time she sees him. I use to like Flower and she still has her good moments but she's getting tiresome with her spacy antics, especially with her obsession with threesomes. I still love the moment with Pete when she told him that he can talk about sports with her. That's the Flower I want. She's been Flanderized. I think Flower and Sass have had the least amount of plotlines dedicated to them. I hope that will change since I'm tired of Issaac hogging the spotlight. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581330
Orcinus orca Saturday at 02:29 AM Share Saturday at 02:29 AM 1 minute ago, kathyk2 said: I think Flower and Sass have had the least amount of plotlines dedicated to them. Sass is my favorite, I wish we knew more about him. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581332
iMonrey Saturday at 03:45 AM Share Saturday at 03:45 AM (edited) 11 hours ago, Gregg247 said: I'm starting to question Mark's skills as a contractor. First, he transformed the dusty old outdated main house into a --just as dusty looking, old, outdated -- B&B. Then he took an old barn and converted it into - an old barn with some kitchen appliances (did they even bother putting in a solid floor?). I actually thought the kitchen looked pretty impressive. But when Jay showed the restaurant to his parents, you could still see through the outer walls between the wooden planks. That seems like something that would never pass an inspection, assuming there was one. It would be freezing in there during the winter. Also - as has been pointed out before - there's no way a water heater that small could service a house that big. Edited Saturday at 03:46 AM by iMonrey 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8581387
Dimity Sunday at 05:53 PM Share Sunday at 05:53 PM This one had it's moments but overall I found it fell a bit flat for me. Not sure why. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood for it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582300
Chit Chat Sunday at 08:28 PM Share Sunday at 08:28 PM 2 hours ago, Dimity said: This one had it's moments but overall I found it fell a bit flat for me. Flower's panic over the world ending made no sense. Being underground for a massive meteorite strike just means you're going to die slower. My feeling about doomsday scenarios is that I'd rather go out in the first wave, especially in the case of nukes. No need to stick around and soak up the radiation poisoning. 😜 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582398
shapeshifter Sunday at 08:41 PM Share Sunday at 08:41 PM On 2/14/2025 at 10:45 PM, iMonrey said: Also - as has been pointed out before - there's no way a water heater that small could service a house that big. Speaking of the water heater… Basement ghost Nancy had a line in this episode: "The water heater recently died." I was sure that was going to be a catastrophe for the restaurant opening. But they probably have a new, separate water heater for the restaurant. So how "recently" did the house water heater die? Is this a bit of writers' strike discontinuity that was missed in editing? Or…? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582404
Bastet Sunday at 08:44 PM Share Sunday at 08:44 PM 2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said: So how "recently" did the house water heater die? Is this a bit of writers' strike discontinuity that was missed in editing? Or…? I assume she was referring to the water heater needing to be fixed in this season's Christmas episode. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582406
Skooma Sunday at 09:06 PM Share Sunday at 09:06 PM 23 minutes ago, shapeshifter said: I was sure that was going to be a catastrophe for the restaurant opening. But they probably have a new, separate water heater for the restaurant. The restaurant was built in the barn which isn't directly connected to the house so yes there would have to be another separate water heater for that building. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582419
Katy M Sunday at 10:17 PM Share Sunday at 10:17 PM Flower's my least favorite ghost and she did not endear me to her with this episode. I did kind of feel bad that everyone kept brushing her off with "not now, Flower." But, when she took matters into her own hands, I was over it. And if the world actually ends, being in a basement is not going to help. if the meteor is so large that it takes out everyone and everything else in the world, just let the meteor hit me. Power Friends powers ACTIVATE. (I know it's Wonder Twins, but Trevor did do the fist bump, so I'm going with it). Too bad Trevor already has his ghost power, but maybe Hetty's can be that she can take the form of animals. or water. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582463
Annber03 Sunday at 10:21 PM Share Sunday at 10:21 PM 1 hour ago, Chit Chat said: Flower's panic over the world ending made no sense. Being underground for a massive meteorite strike just means you're going to die slower. My feeling about doomsday scenarios is that I'd rather go out in the first wave, especially in the case of nukes. No need to stick around and soak up the radiation poisoning. 😜 1 minute ago, Katy M said: And if the world actually ends, being in a basement is not going to help. if the meteor is so large that it takes out everyone and everything else in the world, just let the meteor hit me. I mean, to be fair, people, this is the same woman who was saying goodbye to blades of grass back in the Halloween episode and died completely high off drugs. Pretty sure the logistics of the world ending aren't going to be the first thing that come to mind for her in this moment. I like Flower, myself. She means well, and for as loopy and out there as she often is, like here, she lso can be quite perceptive and thoughtful at times, too. Plus, her backstory is just...really heartbreakingly sad when you stop and think about it. 8 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582465
Bastet Sunday at 10:42 PM Share Sunday at 10:42 PM (edited) Yeah, we know going into the basement wouldn't help, but Flower didn't. Again, she took the cult leader literally about "destroying all life on the Earth's surface" and "all life on the surface is extinguished" - she emphasized on the surface twice - so, in her mind, it was simple -- if she got them underground, she'd save them. Edited Sunday at 10:48 PM by Bastet 5 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151777-s04e12-it%E2%80%99s-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it-and-what-were-we-talking-about/#findComment-8582479
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