S07.16 A Hundred Thousand Angels

[Night Cheese]

I didn't hate this episode as much as, seemingly, the entire internet did. The Faith lives thing is straight out of fanfic, but honestly, I feel like with 10 episodes left, if they can end the show with Faith somehow still being alive and making her way to the Ridge and Jamie and Claire having their whole family there, together, I'd be ok with that ending. Even as I type that, I'm mentally acknowledging just how *truly* fanfic-y it is, but whatever. I guess it's possible that it all gets walked back and explained away in the prequel series. I didn't realize that series was filmed, let alone ready to premiere this year. But I think my 6 months of Starz will be up before it premieres, so I'll have to check the internet for any Faith stuff that comes from it.

Aside from that, I really loved the John/Claire scene. I could watch a whole hour of them just talking. I'm honestly thankful for David Berry and the Outlander directors for helping make a character that I am, at best, indifferent to in the books, to one that I really love on-screen. The girl that played Fanny was a real treat as well. Kudos to the casting director(s) for finding her.

I thought the Jamie/William scene was nicely done and well acted by both. William's identity crisis in the books reads to me as more bratty and petulant than sympathetic, but the actor does a good job with his material. He's still bratty and petulant, but the actor brings something more to the character.

Overall I thought 7B was really strong. I liked MOBY a lot and thought the writers did well to condensing down books 7 and 8 for this season. I'll be back for season 8. 

Here's an article where DG talks about giving the showrunners the Faith lives idea while also subtly crapping on the show and this episode.

 https://parade.com/tv/outlander-season-7-diana-gabaldon-finale-shocker

[jqdeco]

If the writers/producers follow thru with this Faith survived story, that will mean all 3 of Jaime’s children were raised by other men. I find that very sad and horrendous, soap opera storytelling. Truly a jump the shark moment.

[Cdh20]

5 hours ago, Night Cheese said:

I didn't hate this episode as much as, seemingly, the entire internet did. The Faith lives thing is straight out of fanfic, but honestly, I feel like with 10 episodes left, if they can end the show with Faith somehow still being alive and making her way to the Ridge and Jamie and Claire having their whole family there, together, I'd be ok with that ending. Even as I type that, I'm mentally acknowledging just how *truly* fanfic-y it is, but whatever. I guess it's possible that it all gets walked back and explained away in the prequel series. I didn't realize that series was filmed, let alone ready to premiere this year. But I think my 6 months of Starz will be up before it premieres, so I'll have to check the internet for any Faith stuff that comes from it.

Aside from that, I really loved the John/Claire scene. I could watch a whole hour of them just talking. I'm honestly thankful for David Berry and the Outlander directors for helping make a character that I am, at best, indifferent to in the books, to one that I really love on-screen. The girl that played Fanny was a real treat as well. Kudos to the casting director(s) for finding her.

I thought the Jamie/William scene was nicely done and well acted by both. William's identity crisis in the books reads to me as more bratty and petulant than sympathetic, but the actor does a good job with his material. He's still bratty and petulant, but the actor brings something more to the character.

Overall I thought 7B was really strong. I liked MOBY a lot and thought the writers did well to condensing down books 7 and 8 for this season. I'll be back for season 8. 

Here's an article where DG talks about giving the showrunners the Faith lives idea while also subtly crapping on the show and this episode.

 https://parade.com/tv/outlander-season-7-diana-gabaldon-finale-shocker

I know most people hate Book William so Charles had his work cut out for him! I have enjoyed every bit of his story onscreen, it was pared down perfectly.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

17 hours ago, jqdeco said:

If the writers/producers follow thru with this Faith survived story, that will mean all 3 of Jaime’s children were raised by other men. I find that very sad and horrendous, soap opera storytelling. Truly a jump the shark moment.

Apparently Diana has said that she didn't want to spend time showing Claire and Jamie raising a child because she finds that boring, hence Claire going back through the stones and the time skip.

[taanja]

1 hour ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

Apparently Diana has said that she didn't want to spend time showing Claire and Jamie raising a child because she finds that boring, hence Claire going back through the stones and the time skip.

I'm right there with her! 

I came here to read how the whole Faith is alive thing and I am finding out that wasn't in the books? Well color me confused!

[nodorothyparker]

 

1 hour ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

Apparently Diana has said that she didn't want to spend time showing Claire and Jamie raising a child because she finds that boring, hence Claire going back through the stones and the time skip.

And yet they end up collecting multiple stray children along the way and spend an inordinate amount of time dealing with the antics of fifty eleven precocious grandchildren and all the assorted drudgery of raising said grandchildren. All the goings on with dirty diapers and breastfeeding and potty training in Fiery Cross alone is enough to nearly break some readers.

The Faith is alive! thing is just an idle musing by Claire in the most recent book after seeing Fanny and Jane's mother's locket, which does have Faith engraved on it. But at least there, there's a sort of basis for her thinking. Roger and Bree have just returned to the ridge with a story about another book-only time traveler they met in 1739 who had miraculous healing powers in his hands. And she's just resurrected a baby they believed was dead with a similar power in her hands that she can't really explain but makes her start thinking about what she'd seen Master Raymond do and her own dead baby and what he might have done there. Even then, it's maybe a chapter or so of what-ifs in a more than 900 page book before conceding how utterly far fetched the whole thing is. A supposed stillbirth remembering a lullaby however many years later to pass on to her own children is a show-only thing.

[mythoughtis]

On 1/18/2025 at 3:38 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

This show is going to crash and burn for its last season, I can just see it. Gabaldon and the writers did not NEED to go to this well and write such nonsense.

Just like normal, screen  adaptations of books always screw something up.  Faith is an example. 
 

In addition. Even if Faith lived, she wouldn’t  remember a song sung to her once as a premature infant long enough to teach it to her daughter. Or are we to assume Faith lived in the far future and just drug her daughters back to the past? 

Edited 9 hours ago by mythoughtis

[areca]

1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

Or are we to assume Faith lived in the far future and just drug her daughters back to the past? 

Perhaps she learned of her parents and was taking her family to meet them.