Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Notabug]

26 minutes ago, Sharla said:

Why is Trump losing his mind over Los Angeles and their demonstrations when 100 miles south San Diego is also having demonstrations?

Because LA is a media center teeming with evil liberal dems in showbiz.  Meanwhile, San Diego has a major military presence thanks to the US Navy and a far more conservative citizenry.  

Why isn't the media out there showing us all that it is not just Democrats who are opposed to the thuggery of ICE?

Trump has made it clear from the jump that it is all about punishing the folks that didn't vote for him.

Edited Thursday at 04:39 PM by Notabug

[shapeshifter]

Regarding hate, and opposing sides, this Bob Dylan-esque musician/poet, Jesse Welles, sums it up for me with this:

(5 months ago)

And this:

(2 months ago)

 

I worked at a college for 19 years whose school colors were red and black.
I keep hoping I'll be able to wear my red clothes again. 

[peacheslatour]

10 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Regarding hate, and opposing sides, this Bob Dylan-esque musician/poet, Jesse Welles, sums it up for me with this:

(5 months ago)

And this:

(2 months ago)

 

I worked at a college for 19 years whose school colors were red and black.
I keep hoping I'll be able to wear my red clothes again. 

I absolutely love Jesse Welles. IMO, young men today are falling into the vortex of hate with the Tates and Rogans of this world because there are no rock stars for their generation. Where are the rebellious young musicians and singers for them to rally around? I think Springsteen should take Welles on tour with him. The movement needs new blood just like the party does.

And here is some good advice.

 

 

[Affogato]

5 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Trump is not going to remembered for anything good.  He rightly or wrongly will be compared to Hitler. His legacy will be undermining our country in such a way our enemies could have only dreamed about. I feel like his grave will have to be in some locked mausoleum because otherwise people would piss, spit and who knows what else on it.

Aren't contracts usually negotiated before the current one is so close to expiring?  If ABC knew he wasn't resigning this makes them look even worse.  Trying to curry favor with Trump by parting ways with Moran when they knew he was leaving is pathetic. 

It's not just Trump that has angered us.  It's Mitch McConnell stealing a SCOTUS seat by refusing to have a confirmation hearing for Merrick Garland because it was an election year.  It's Mitch McConnell then breaking his own made up rule and letting ACB be confirmed in the month before election day. It's decades of gerrymandering and voter suppression.  If my heart is hard it's with good reason.

One thing Trump did do is he brought out a lot of people's true colors.  For everyone who found empathy for people suffering from Trump's actions there were people who found pleasure from seeing people suffer.

Trump is a puppet. His vitriol is all him but his policies are whatever someone tells him to do. The man is not an idealogue like some of the people around him. 

What is MAGA without him? What are their policies?  And who steps up to replace him?  

Observe. Maga may be slavering about immigrant deportation and such but meanwhile power is being diverted into the executive branch, voting wards are being restructured, thepower of the federal grows larger and its responsibilities smaller.  Clean environment and health are not concerns. 

Edited Thursday at 06:26 PM by Affogato

[Affogato]

I honestly think a lot of MAGA have never been part of a force in the world. They are part of a movement, man it has been a long time coming. They belong. No one gives that up without a fight. 

[PRgal]

35 minutes ago, Affogato said:

Observe. Maga may be slavering about immigrant deportation and such but meanwhile power is being diverted into the executive branch, voting wards are being restructured, thepower of the federal grows larger and its responsibilities smaller.  Clean environment and health are not concerns. 

What percentage of new citizens (and the subsequent generation) voted for Trump anyway?  There's always that "we're not one of THEM" rhetoric going on within some communities.  I've lived it first hand (e.g. Hong Kong Canadians sometimes see mainland immigrants as "showy" and OTT while they are more...subtle about things (not exactly true, TBH)).

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

What percentage of new citizens (and the subsequent generation) voted for Trump anyway?  There's always that "we're not one of THEM" rhetoric going on within some communities.

I don't have stats handy, but yes. Recent "legal" immigrants were recruited with the us-versus-them rhetoric, differentiating those who came more recently and weren't yet citizens from those who came earlier. The term "illegal" gets bandied about to mean a variety of things, but it's what the "legal" immigrants were told they should want to prevent. I read an article about a "legal" immigrant who voted for Trump and was now in tears because a relative got send to El Salvador to spend the rest of their life in prison because of something like having unpaid parking tickets while not being a citizen.

[peacheslatour]

My god, what an idiot.

[ProudMary]

8 hours ago, Eri said:

But more importantly, his MAGA merchandise was on sale at the event, breaking with the military's supposed non-partisanship to endorse political merchandise or the views it represents. He's prepping.

Yup. Also, Trump himself is in violation of the Hatch Act here.

Kristi Noem violated the Hatch Act last night standing next to Trump at his desk in the Oval when she told Californians not to vote for Gavin Newsom.

Of course, these are functioning democracy issues. We don’t have one of those anymore. I hope no one minds, because I've done this a couple of times recently, but I'm going to call out the criminality here every time I see it moving forward. We've become so accustomed to it that we don't always realize that they're continually criming out in the open. That, of course, is part of the facist plan.

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

And here is some good advice.

 

 

@peacheslatour I thought it sounded like good advice, too when I first heard about it. Since that time, both the 50501 Movement, Indivisible and a number of long-time activists I follow have advised against this. Here is the statement from fhe 50501 Movement and also a graphic that's easy to share elsewhere.

 

[Affogato]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

My god, what an idiot.

Oy

[PRgal]

14 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I don't have stats handy, but yes. Recent "legal" immigrants were recruited with the us-versus-them rhetoric, differentiating those who came more recently and weren't yet citizens from those who came earlier. The term "illegal" gets bandied about to mean a variety of things, but it's what the "legal" immigrants were told they should want to prevent. I read an article about a "legal" immigrant who voted for Trump and was now in tears because a relative got send to El Salvador to spend the rest of their life in prison because of something like having unpaid parking tickets while not being a citizen.

I don't necessarily mean documented vs undocumented, but "not one of them" in the general sense (as is the issue with HK vs mainland (though there are, of course, underlying political issues there too).  What's interesting about THAT is that these people were the "them" 30-40 years ago during the post-Joint Declaration migration period.  Heck, I'm sure early immigrants had issues with people like my parents who came in the 70s (resentment that they were young, English-speaking yuppies, perhaps?).

[EtheltoTillie]

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/us/la-protests-trump-marines-ice?unlocked_article_code=1.OU8.DVgS.ZS1Utdx9D7MM&smid=url-share

Breaking news:  Sen. Alex Padilla handcuffed!  Because he interrupted the great Kristi Noem.

Edited Thursday at 08:47 PM by EtheltoTillie

[ProudMary]

4 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/us/la-protests-trump-marines-ice?unlocked_article_code=1.OU8.DVgS.ZS1Utdx9D7MM&smid=url-share

Breaking news:  Sen. Alex Padilla handcuffed!  Because he interrupted the great Kristi Noem.

Hmm. So far among elected officials, they've arrested and/or charged Ras Baraka, the Black Mayor of Newark, NJ; LaMonica McIver, the Black House Representative from NJ's 10th CD and now Alex Padilla, the Latino Senior Senator from California. Gavin Newsom's been threatened with arrest and even told Tom Homan to come and get him, but so far, no action taken.

Anyone else noticing a pattern? 😠

[LexieLily]

43 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/us/la-protests-trump-marines-ice?unlocked_article_code=1.OU8.DVgS.ZS1Utdx9D7MM&smid=url-share

Breaking news:  Sen. Alex Padilla handcuffed!  Because he interrupted the great Kristi Noem.

Speaker Mike Johnson thinks it's all completely fine and that Padilla needs to be censured because it was all his fault. [His words and thoughts, not mine, just so it's on the record.]

Edited Thursday at 09:30 PM by LexieLily

[peacheslatour]

The cruelty is the point.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/12/g-s1-72223/public-media-funding-up-in-the-air-as-house-prepares-to-vote-on-claw-backs

The House of Representatives narrowly approved legislation Thursday to claw back two years of federal funding for public media outlets. President Trump, who has attacked the mainstream media more broadly, has accused NPR and PBS of bias against conservative viewpoints.

The measure passed largely along party lines, 214 to 212.

The legislation is the first request by the Trump administration for Congress to take back money it already has approved through annual spending bills. The bill reflects a list of cuts totaling $9.4 billion that were requested by the Office of Management and Budget. The bulk of the cuts — $8.3 billion — are to foreign aid programs addressing global public health, international disaster assistance and hunger relief.

[annzeepark914]

14 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Senator Mike Johnson thinks it's all completely fine and that Padilla needs to be censured because it was all his fault. [His words and thoughts, not mine, just so it's on the record.]

You can easily imagine the screams & howls if this had happened to a GOP Senator or Rep. Thanks again to the folks  who just couldn't bring themselves to vote for a candidate who didn't meet their high political standards 🤬. Each day is getting more & more surreal.

[tres bien]

38 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Speaker Mike Johnson thinks it's all completely fine and that Padilla needs to be censured because it was all his fault. [His words and thoughts, not mine, just so it's on the record.]

Johnson is a fool and an idiot 

Padilla is a senator 

[Eri]

7 hours ago, fairffaxx said:

I am a fan of baboons, a highly intelligent species, & I resent this comparison! 

Tee hee - then you must be well versed in anthropological research 😉

I was thinking more along the lines of...

Blanche:
Oh shut up! Shut up you babblin' bobble-headed, bleached blonde...

Sophia:
Baboon!

Blanche:
Baboon! [storms out of kitchen and Rose glares at Sophia]

Sophia:
She needed a B.

I needed a B! 😀

Edited Thursday at 10:04 PM by Eri

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, ProudMary said:

Yup. Also, Trump himself is in violation of the Hatch Act here.

Kristi Noem violated the Hatch Act last night standing next to Trump at his desk in the Oval when she told Californians not to vote for Gavin Newsom.

Of course, these are functioning democracy issues. We don’t have one of those anymore. I hope no one minds, because I've done this a couple of times recently, but I'm going to call out the criminality here every time I see it moving forward. We've become so accustomed to it that we don't always realize that they're continually criming out in the open. That, of course, is part of the facist plan.

@peacheslatour I thought it sounded like good advice, too when I first heard about it. Since that time, both the 50501 Movement, Indivisible and a number of long-time activists I follow have advised against this. Here is the statement from fhe 50501 Movement and also a graphic that's easy to share elsewhere.

 

When is that from?

[Yeah No]

Ron DeSantis says Floridians have the right to hit protestors with their cars:

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-says-floridians-have-right-hit-protesters-cars-2084418

Seriously you guys, this shit just keeps getting more insane and more out of control.

[kittykat]

Not to take away from Trump but I would like to call out said businesses for complaining about their workers being taken away and not being able to replace them. I wonder why that is?  Is it because no one wants to work? No, it's likely because these jobs barely pay minimum wage and offer no benefits with unreliable scheduling. Want people to work, give people a living wage and health benefits. It's no secret these employers hire undocumented workers in order to exploit them. I get sick of people calling out undocumented people for "doing it wrong" but staying mum on employers, whose business model is exploiting cheap labor for higher profit. It's all connected.

[Lantern7]

From EW.com: R. Kelly is seeking a presidential pardon from Donald Trump: 'Only person with the courage to help us,' says attorney

The sad thing is that those that would sell their souls to him will suffer little to no consequences. At all.

I’d like someone to beat DeDantis with his own high-heeled shoes.

[Yeah No]

9 minutes ago, Eri said:

This should serve as a wake up call for all the people who think that you can reason, or talk sense to brainwashed people. We need to be vigilant of what we're dealing with, and act accordingly.

I'd like to ask any Trump supporter or any loyal Republican at this point if this is what they stand for and wanted when they voted for Trump - being given permission to shoot migrants on sight, hitting protestors on foot with cars, having congressman roughed up, thrown to the ground and handcuffed for daring to ask a question at a meeting, legal immigrants and citizens arrested, detained and threatened with deportation without due process by ICE, the National Guard called out for peaceful protests, etc., etc., etc.. Is this the "great" America you envisioned when you voted for Trump? Because I don't even think YOU can possibly think it resembles anything that should be called "America" at this point. More and more it's starting to look and feel like a military dictatorship. I challenge anyone to tell me why it doesn't. I doubt I will get any intelligent answers. And once again I ask WHEN are you going to say "enough is enough" or "Stop the Insanity"? You can't possibly say this is what you signed on for unless you really ARE a Nazi or a Proud Boy! There's no other way around it at this point. Just admit you made a mistake, for chrissakes! You know that at least I will forgive you, lol. I don't even expect you to become a Democrat at this point. Just freaking admit that this is WRONG enough for you to wash your hands of it and call for the Republican party to DO something to stop it NOW!

[DrSpaceman73]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Speaker Mike Johnson thinks it's all completely fine and that Padilla needs to be censured because it was all his fault. [His words and thoughts, not mine, just so it's on the record.]

Well they are senators and Mike Johnson is in the house so his opinion isn't worth......anything. 

[Annber03]

12 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

This article about Trump’s opening night at the Kennedy Center captures what feels to me like a Hitlerian-Caligulan moment in America: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/12/politics/trump-kennedy-center-les-miserables-reaction

This is another reason (of many) why the whole "TDS" thing from Trump supporters is so incredibly dumb. They claim the guy lives rent free in our heads, but it's kind of hard for him to NOT be part of our daily thoughts when he infests EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING OUT THERE. It's getting harder and harder to find spaces that don't have Trump's greasy fingerprints all over them somehow, or which he hasn't fucked up or touched or damaged or whatever. 

Believe me, I would absolutely LOVE to not have to think about or talk about him anymore. I would LOVE to go back to the days when he was nothing more than joke tabloid fodder that I could happily ignore and go about my day.

But I can't. Because his supporters insisted that we really needed more of him in charge of things, and have forced him upon us yet again, and he's happily forcing himself into every area of people's daily lives as well. 

So if we're thinking and talking about him too much, believe me, it sure as hell isn't by choice. 

7 hours ago, Sharla said:

Why is Trump losing his mind over Los Angeles and their demonstrations when 100 miles south San Diego is also having demonstrations?

This brings up another thing about these protests in L.A. that make them all the more horrific and stupid. That city's already been trying to recover from the devastating fires earlier this year. Remember those? An actual competent, decent, compassionate president would be spending their time working with the city to offer any further aid and assistance possible to continue to help with the recovery efforts, and encourage citizens across the country to do the same. 

But nope. Gotta have these military people parading up and down the streets because Trump's ltitle fee-fees got hurt when people dared to protest his shitty immigration policies and he just can't go one day without picking a fight with somebody. 

10 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not just Trump that has angered us.  It's Mitch McConnell stealing a SCOTUS seat by refusing to have a confirmation hearing for Merrick Garland because it was an election year.  It's Mitch McConnell then breaking his own made up rule and letting ACB be confirmed in the month before election day. It's decades of gerrymandering and voter suppression.  If my heart is hard it's with good reason.

This. I don't know that I'd say my heart has hardened yet, but I'm also not going to let a whole lot of bullshit slide in the hopes of trying to keep "peace and harmony". Not when the other side is refusing to even attempt to act in good faith. 

And that's another thing - even for those who do/did still want to try and reach out to Trump supporters, in some cases it's not even that they don't want to reach out, it's that they literally CAN'T. How exactly are we supposed to start a dialogue with people who aren't even operating in the same world of basic reality and facts as us? How do you begin a dialogue with people who genuinely believe that there are microchips in Covid vaccines to track us? How do you begin a dialogue with people who will swear up and down that Trump really, truly, honest to god won the 2020 election, or believe that wacky stuff about politicians being executed and having body doubles or rising from the dead or whatever the fuck it is some Trump supporters seem to genuinely believe?

How are we supposed to begin a dialogue with people who believe mass shootings like Sandy Hook are staged and all the victims and their families are "crisis actors" sent to try and make it so the left can take away everyone's guns (and why in God's name should we eveb begin a dialogue with people who believe insane shit like that)? 

If anyone has an answer or solution, tell us, 'cause right now, we're at a loss and genuinely don't know where to even begin to break through that kind of delusional thinking. 

[jessiebell]

Whoever coined the word TACO to describe Trump really hit the nail on the head.  So NOW he sees the damage being done in certain industries by the indiscriminate roundup of undocumented workers?????  He really is uncapable of thinking ahead, of looking at the consequences of his policies - or in this case of how it effects his cronies (and maybe himself since he's been known to hire undocumented workers).

How can any of his supporters support this? I mean they've been told all undocumented are criminals. So gee Trump was lying?

After spending millions on ICE and military in LA is he going to just say "we've solved the problem created by Biden and now those brave troops can go home" ? And of course his supporters will lap it up.

 

[Dimity]

Just now, jessiebell said:

After spending millions on ICE and military in LA is he going to just say "we've solved the problem created by Biden and now those brave troops can go home" ? And of course his supporters will lap it up.

This is a classic authoritarian tactic.  Create a problem, solve the problem, take credit for solving the non-existent problem.

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Ron DeSantis says Floridians have the right to hit protestors with their cars:

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-says-floridians-have-right-hit-protesters-cars-2084418

Seriously you guys, this shit just keeps getting more insane and more out of control.

Anyone still want to keep insisting we're the ones who need to play nice? Anyone? Bueller? 

[chitowngirl]

From CNN: Israel launches “preemptive strike” against Iran

[bluegirl147]

32 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

From CNN: Israel launches “preemptive strike” against Iran

One more thing for us to worry about.

45 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Anyone still want to keep insisting we're the ones who need to play nice? Anyone? Bueller? 

I genuinely fear for all the protesters Saturday.  Trump and his red state governors cohorts are just looking for an excuse to cause even more upheaval.  

[annzeepark914]

56 minutes ago, jessiebell said:

Whoever coined the word TACO to describe Trump really hit the nail on the head.  So NOW he sees the damage being done in certain industries by the indiscriminate roundup of undocumented workers?????  He really is uncapable of thinking ahead, of looking at the consequences of his policies - or in this case of how it effects his cronies (and maybe himself since he's been known to hire undocumented workers).

How can any of his supporters support this? I mean they've been told all undocumented are criminals. So gee Trump was lying?

After spending millions on ICE and military in LA is he going to just say "we've solved the problem created by Biden and now those brave troops can go home" ? And of course his supporters will lap it up.

 

He's incapable of thinking ahead because he's really a simpleton. Donald is just a figurehead of Project 2025, lead/directed by Russell Vought, Stephen Miller, and any other neocons (& present day Hitlerites). That's why he *never* really explains why he's doing what he's doing. He has no idea except for what he's told. His only interests are applause, golf time, acquiring $$ and adulation. Nothing else.

[tres bien]

The people that are in charge of the government are scary as hell 

DHS Kristi Noem in Los Angeles today “it’s necessary to have troops in Los Angeles to liberate the city from the socialists”

This is scary as hell

Edited 16 hours ago by tres bien

[Lantern7]

5 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

From CNN: Israel launches “preemptive strike” against Iran

Extremism is unavoidable. Yaaaaay.

I know that you're not supposed to hate your way through life, but that seems to be the only realistic option at this point. Yoda could do his Episode One spiel, and my response would be, “But if it’s the ops that suffer, what’s the problem?” 

Edited 19 hours ago by Lantern7

[Kemper]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

 

I genuinely fear for all the protesters Saturday.  Trump and his red state governors cohorts are just looking for an excuse to cause even more upheaval.  

I have friends going...and now I am a little worried about them. They seem to think that this will be akin to the Vietnam protests (they were there). It is not.... because this time the "enemy" is us.

[annzeepark914]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

One more thing for us to worry about.

I genuinely fear for all the protesters Saturday.  Trump and his red state governors cohorts are just looking for an excuse to cause even more upheaval.  

Damn right. My husband will be at a No King Rally in our suburb so I'm hoping (&🙏) that it won't get attention from Trump's goon squad. I told him to *never* turn his back on traffic. 

[shapeshifter]

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

The people that are in charge of the government are scary as hell 

DHS Kristi Noem in Los Angeles today “it’s necessary to have troops in Los to liberate the city from the socialists”

This is scary as hell

I used to think she put the part about her shooting her puppy in her book to get ahead of it before it was found out by the media. 
Now I see it was exactly what she stated: an assertion about how ruthless she is.

[Anela]

5 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Ron DeSantis says Floridians have the right to hit protestors with their cars:

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-says-floridians-have-right-hit-protesters-cars-2084418

Seriously you guys, this shit just keeps getting more insane and more out of control.

This is what I’m talking about, when it comes to empathy and who someone voted for. I don’t see any liberals looking for excuses to pull this shit with Trump supporters.  They just don’t want to socialize with them.

there were a few states who were talking about about making this legal. I think at least one did (allowing people to drive their cars into protesters), in 2020. It’s all about hurting the libs. 

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

I have friends going...and now I am a little worried about them. They seem to think that this will be akin to the Vietnam protests (they were there). It is not.... because this time the "enemy" is us.

I want to go, I don’t know if I’ll be able to get to one. But I remember him calling us the enemy within. Worse than Putin, and saying that he would turn the military on us. He also talked about a purge-like hour, or day, for the cops.  Just letting them deal with the people he or they say are a problem. If the police say so, it must be true, right?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-suggests-hell-use-the-military-on-the-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected

[ProudMary]

5 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

When is that from?

I saw it this afternoon, just before I posted it here. I received it on FB through my local Indivisible group.

[Anela]

My state also has a bill that would allow ICE to just walk into hospitals, and arrest undocumented immigrants, if it’s passed.  They aren’t following the law anyway, but this would make what they’re doing legal. 

[Absolom]

12 hours ago, Notabug said:

a far more conservative citizenry.  

 

SD is blue.  It's OC that is Republican central. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

7 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Is this the "great" America you envisioned when you voted for Trump? Because I don't even think YOU can possibly think it resembles anything that should be called "America" at this point.

Depends on how you define "America."  According to the guy I posted about upthread, Christian Nationalists are okay with burning down the country in order to rebuild it as the Christian nation God has ordained.  And punishing the people who caused it to go the wrong way.

Quote

And once again I ask WHEN are you going to say "enough is enough" or "Stop the Insanity"?

Not until the mission is accomplished.  

[anony.miss]

8 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

His only interests are applause, golf time, acquiring $$ and adulation.

...and sexually assauting women. He's a hard core believer in that.

Edited 16 hours ago by anony.miss

[tres bien]

Kristi Noem is a former governor but now she’s ok with taking away state’s rights?

”We are staying here to liberate (LA) from the socialists and burdensome leadership this governor and mayor have placed on this country and city”. The country?

She’s suggesting using military force to remove the democratically elected governor and mayor yet yesterday a judge ruled that Trump had to remove the military from LA only to have another judge put that on hold till NEXT Tuesday 

This is surreal 

[Affogato]

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

Kristi Noem is a former governor but now she’s ok with taking away state’s rights?

”We are staying here to liberate (LA) from the socialists and burdensome leadership this governor and mayor have placed on this country and city”. The country?

She’s suggesting using military force to remove the democratically elected governor and mayor yet yesterday a judge ruled that Trump had to remove the military from LA only to have another judge put that on hold till NEXT Tuesday 

This is surreal 

It is unreal. I expect if she oversteps she will trip and fall under the bus. But until then, she serves her purpose. 

[Dimity]

Trump is so busy fighting the war he declared on America, it will be interesting to see if he has time to handle the war that seems to be  breaking out in the Middle East.  No doubt he will take to social media to blame "stupid Joe Biden" and make other similarly helpful all caps remarks that will immediately defuse things.

[bluegirl147]

9 hours ago, Anela said:

I don’t see any liberals looking for excuses to pull this shit with Trump supporters.  They just don’t want to socialize with them.

 Yesterday on a local FB page someone asked if there were going to be any local protests Saturday.  The vast majority of comments were nasty of course.  People saying Soros is funding the protests.  Trump rules.  The usual.  During his first term there was Trump parades in my local area pretty much every weekend.  Pickup trucks decked out in Trump gear just driving around honking their horns.  It was so fucking obnoxious.  As far as I know no liberals tried to attack them.  In fact we did our best to stay away from them.  I live in an open carry state and most of those trucks most likely had at least one gun in them.  The only thing the liberal protesters are carrying are signs.

 

59 minutes ago, Kemper said:

. Kristi Noehm and Pete Hegseth both look like ads for cosmetic surgery.

She did do an ad for a cosmetic dentist she said did a "teeth adjustment" for her. 

59 minutes ago, Kemper said:

The very long, dark hair. Extensions? Parted in the middle, hanging down both shoulders. Makeup on overload. Seemingly trying to pop some cleavage while trying to appear to be taken seriously. 

There is nothing real about her except for the hatred and cruelty that just oozes out of her. She doesn't even pretend to be anything but a sadist.  Killing animals is a sign of some sort of psychopathy and she proves it.

10 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I used to think she put the part about her shooting her puppy in her book to get ahead of it before it was found out by the media. 
Now I see it was exactly what she stated: an assertion about how ruthless she is.

Before Trump a politician admitting to killing a dog would have been a career ender.  But for  Noem and RFK Jr with his bear story the right just does not care.  

10 hours ago, Kemper said:

They seem to think that this will be akin to the Vietnam protests (they were there). It is not.... because this time the "enemy" is us.

I'm afraid we are going to have replays of Kent State.

11 hours ago, tres bien said:

DHS Kristi Noem in Los Angeles today “it’s necessary to have troops in Los Angeles to liberate the city from the socialists”

Who do we call to have us liberated from the fascists?

Just now, Dimity said:

Trump is so busy fighting the war he declared on America, it will be interesting to see if he has time to handle the war that seems to be  breaking out in the Middle East.  No doubt he will take to social media to blame "stupid Joe Biden" and make other similarly helpful all caps remarks that will immediately defuse things.

The man cannot keep a secret.  Part of me thinks Israel started the bombing yesterday because Trump started talking about it. 

[tres bien]

I don’t care what Kristi Noem looks like I care what’s coming out her mouth her message her threats
It’s frightening and like we’re in an alternate universe 

[tearknee]

KN needs to remember Norway

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

I don’t care what Kristi Noem looks like I care what’s coming out her mouth her message her threats
It’s frightening and like we’re in an alternate universe 

I think though people's faces often show us what they are.  It's got nothing to do with beauty or plainness or whatever.  She and Trump and the rest of his unqualified cabinet - they are what evil looks like.

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, tearknee said:

KN needs to remember Norway

People like KN can't even define socialism. And it doesn't even matter because her party has effectively made socialism a boogey man that should be feared. But when you explain the good things socialism can bring people change their minds.  I wish Democrats would stop running from policies that the majority of people like and would like to see implemented.