Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Anela]

4 minutes ago, jessiebell said:

Interesting article in today's Washington Post about how much Trump's pardons have cost us.  A former DOJ attorney who worked on pardons(fired after refusing to reinstate Mel Gibson's gun rights) says it's about 1 billion dollars after adding up what these people owed in restitution.  After someone is pardoned they no longer have to pay restitution.  One pardon was for Trevor Milton convicted of fraud in 2023 of defrauding shareholders of around 680 million.  Another was for a cryptocurrency company with a 100 million fine plead guilty to violating anti-money laundering laws, also found guilty were 4 company executives who were pardoned by Trump.

The 60 Minutes story last night on Trump going after law firms was really interesting.  I wonder how long it will take for Trump to sic the DOJ on Marc Elias as he has with former aides Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs.  

So the White HOuse is now trying to clean up Trump's 100% tariffs on foreign movies.  No one knows how this will actually work. 

We can't afford social services, research grants, health programs, etc but can afford a military parade????  Last time Trump floated this idea the cost was going to be over $90 million.    I think we could find much better ways to use that money.  SInce this parade is to "honor" the Army guess when it's time to honor the Navy we'll have submarines and an aircraft carrier floating down Pennsylvania Ave.

Trump is going to use his own money to build a ballroom at the White House.  We've gotten along for over 200 years without one.  Any contractor hired for this project better get their money from Trump upfront.

Any bets on how much the debt will increase by the time his four years are up?????

 

I love how he's now claiming that the parade is to honour the army. An article I just read, said that it's going to cost at least $45 million, and that it could impact training for people in the army (the cost taking away from people who are in the army).

 

[Affogato]

6 minutes ago, jessiebell said:

Interesting article in today's Washington Post about how much Trump's pardons have cost us.  A former DOJ attorney who worked on pardons(fired after refusing to reinstate Mel Gibson's gun rights) says it's about 1 billion dollars after adding up what these people owed in restitution.  After someone is pardoned they no longer have to pay restitution.  One pardon was for Trevor Milton convicted of fraud in 2023 of defrauding shareholders of around 680 million.  Another was for a cryptocurrency company with a 100 million fine plead guilty to violating anti-money laundering laws, also found guilty were 4 company executives who were pardoned by Trump.

The 60 Minutes story last night on Trump going after law firms was really interesting.  I wonder how long it will take for Trump to sic the DOJ on Marc Elias as he has with former aides Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs.  

So the White HOuse is now trying to clean up Trump's 100% tariffs on foreign movies.  No one knows how this will actually work. 

We can't afford social services, research grants, health programs, etc but can afford a military parade????  Last time Trump floated this idea the cost was going to be over $90 million.    I think we could find much better ways to use that money.  SInce this parade is to "honor" the Army guess when it's time to honor the Navy we'll have submarines and an aircraft carrier floating down Pennsylvania Ave.

Trump is going to use his own money to build a ballroom at the White House.  We've gotten along for over 200 years without one.  Any contractor hired for this project better get their money from Trump upfront.

Any bets on how much the debt will increase by the time his four years are up?????

 

He is just pissing on the white house like an old, incontinent bulldog.  The military parade is apparently something he wanted since his last excursion into the presidency, and he wants to hold it over the other leaders in the world. What a moron. But yes, we aren’t saving money, we are spending it on things to nake Trump self important, and he just likes jerking the economy around, because a reaction makes him feel important. It is terrifying. I think he thinks people will make more movies in the US, and I honestly expect some movies are being made, or at least planned, that qualify as propaganda films for trump. Trump as a superhero, or old west trump. Or Jesus Trump.

[Kemper]

Sylvester Stallone (and his eyebrows), Jon Voight (how many movies -being the "star" of- has he made in the last couple of decades...and Mel Gibson (stellar steller guy). He only picks The Best People. Geez. 

[Affogato]

2 hours ago, Eri said:

Don't forget his recent discussions with Rwanda confirming an "early stage" of talks with the Trump administration to accept migrants deported by the US. 

'His comments come after US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said last month that Washington was "actively searching" for countries that would take in "some of the most despicable human beings".'

Ugh, can he volunteer as tribute? 

Well, he is one of the more despicable human beings. I cannot, truly.

[fastiller]

Many thousands of years ago, I worked with a guy who invited me to a party at a swanky place in Manhattan.  He was kind of fame-adjacent (the coolest guy he knew was actor Mitchell Lichtenstein who wrote & directed Teeth; his father is pointillist Roy).  The party was at Jon Voight's place.  He had the most inappropriate-for-a-father-to-have photos of Angelina Jolie up on the walls.  I can see how Trump feels a commonality w/ Voight.

Edit to clarify: my coworker wasn't friends w/ Voight; it was a friend of a friend of a friend kind of invite.

Edited May 5 by fastiller
clarity

[Lantern7]

Last night's Last Week Tonight covers the subject of deportations. In case you needed a reason to be mad, this might help you.

Reopen Alcatraz? Fuck it, why not announce plans to access the Phantom Zone?

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, tessaray said:

The linguistics issue is real. My ex-s-i-l was born in Mexico and though he speaks English very well, spent most of his life speaking Spanish at home. That affected my grandkids too. Where you could really see it was in testing. There is a lot of implicit information that native English speakers get and others miss. 

But DEI can't cover everything, especially while everyone is trying to roll the gigantic boulder that is racism/misogyny up a hill that gets steeper every day. It isn't that we don't care about all the umbrella issues and none of them individually are more or less important. That's where people like you who are helping their particular communities are so essential. Most of us get that, though it may not be acknowledged enough.

In the case of the US, it's become clear that we must deal with the racist aftermath of slavery or it will eventually poison us all. Growing up in the Sixties, I would never have expected white supremecy to make this kind of hateful  resurgence, so I'm not very hopeful at this point.

And it can trickle down another generation.  Since my parents play a big role in my son’s care, I think their accents have affected his English pronunciation, though I can’t be 100% sure (it could just be a slight delay and he’s just retaining his “toddler” accent).  I’ve asked time and time again for my parents to only speak to him in Cantonese so he would ONLY hear English from us.  But they continue to speak bilingually, leaning more to English.  So yeah, until very recently, my son continued to call apples, “appos” and said he went to “skoo” every day.  I finally got him to practice by repeating “Little April likes apples” and “Apple, Google” over and over.  It’s his “Rain in Spain.”  And yes, he’s “got it”…more or less, anyway.  And like Higgins, I have been recording.  

[Eri]

35 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

Last night's Last Week Tonight covers the subject of deportations. In case you needed a reason to be mad, this might help you.

Reopen Alcatraz? Fuck it, why not announce plans to access the Phantom Zone?

Didn't they also want to expand Guantanamo Bay for detainees and people complained because it was too expensive?

Oh yeah - they did https://www.kqed.org/news/12033989/guantanamo-ice-detention-costs-40-million-in-1st-month-padilla-calls-spending-exorbitant

"On the day of the senators’ visit, 87 people were detained at the facility, according to Padilla’s office. The Department of Homeland Security estimates that each detention bed at standard ICE facilities costs about $165 per day. At that rate, holding 87 people for a month in the U.S. would total about $430,000 — a fraction of the $40 million spent at Guantanamo.

“It’s a huge waste of taxpayer dollars,” Padilla said of the Guantanamo operation. “It was done without any significant planning or preparation, simply to give Donald Trump the talking point or the soundbite that he wants. It’s irresponsible, it’s reckless and it undermines due process.”

So glad to see all those extra funds from the CR going toward ICE agencies were put to good use rather than supporting our national parks or research programs that actually help keep infants safe and prevent sleep-related tragedies 😒

Edited May 5 by Eri

[ECM1231]

The family of the U.S Capitol rampager shot dead by police while trying to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election win over Donald Trump has reportedly settled a lawsuit with the Trump administration-appointed Department of Justice.

A $30 million civil suit was filed on behalf of Ashli Babbitt‘s estate after U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd shot the Trump loyalist while protecting lawmakers from an invading MAGA mob on Jan. 6, 2021.

The plaintiff’s attorney and a DOJ lawyer confirmed a settlement in principle was reached Friday but gave no details about the proposed deal. Nothing has been signed yet.

Babbitt’s attorneys argued she was unarmed and that Byrd shot her after failing to “de-escalate” the intense confrontation between police and Trump supporters storming the building. The officer, who said he fired as a “last resort” as she was crawling through a broken door, was cleared of charges.

While Babbitt’s death was viewed as a direct consequence of her own actions by many, the 36-year-old Air Force veteran became a martyr to MAGA loyalists. In October 2021, Trump recorded a video honoring Babbitt on her birthday and calling for “justice.”

“Please know that her memory will live on in our hearts for all time,” he told her family and friends.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/05/02/capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitts-family-settlement-united-states/

 

[tearknee]

3 hours ago, PRgal said:

You know what I rarely see addressed when we talk about privilege?  LINGUISTIC PRIVILEGE.  This is something I rarely see and hear in DEI seminars, likely because it centres around workplaces where everyone can function in the local language.  However, this fails to address A LOT of communication issues elsewhere (e.g. in schools, where parents may have challenges helping their kids with schoolwork/projects because they don't understand what's being asked for.  Or when they're speaking with teachers to get help for their children such as an IEP (or understanding the need for an IEP)).  It's also important in healthcare, but hospitals tend to be pretty good at getting interpreters.  Also, there are local terms that an expat (or new immigrant) might not be familiar with.  For example, many Canadians didn't realize that "root" has a TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING in Australian English, one that is NSFW.  I've brought these issues up before in DEI groups, but again, it's brushed off with a focus ONLY on "appearance" (i.e. race).  I really don't understand.

"So why are you rooting her?" = the Harry Shearer guest episode of the Australian ABC's "Frontline" (a spoof of tabloid current affairs shows).

[Anela]

14 minutes ago, ECM1231 said:

The family of the U.S Capitol rampager shot dead by police while trying to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election win over Donald Trump has reportedly settled a lawsuit with the Trump administration-appointed Department of Justice.

A $30 million civil suit was filed on behalf of Ashli Babbitt‘s estate after U.S. Capitol Police Lt. Michael Byrd shot the Trump loyalist while protecting lawmakers from an invading MAGA mob on Jan. 6, 2021.

The plaintiff’s attorney and a DOJ lawyer confirmed a settlement in principle was reached Friday but gave no details about the proposed deal. Nothing has been signed yet.

Babbitt’s attorneys argued she was unarmed and that Byrd shot her after failing to “de-escalate” the intense confrontation between police and Trump supporters storming the building. The officer, who said he fired as a “last resort” as she was crawling through a broken door, was cleared of charges.

While Babbitt’s death was viewed as a direct consequence of her own actions by many, the 36-year-old Air Force veteran became a martyr to MAGA loyalists. In October 2021, Trump recorded a video honoring Babbitt on her birthday and calling for “justice.”

“Please know that her memory will live on in our hearts for all time,” he told her family and friends.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/05/02/capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitts-family-settlement-united-states/

 

They tried to de-escalate.  I’m glad that he was cleared of charges.   

Edited May 5 by Anela

[Affogato]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Sylvester Stallone (and his eyebrows), Jon Voight (how many movies -being the "star" of- has he made in the last couple of decades...and Mel Gibson (stellar steller guy). He only picks The Best People. Geez. 

Is Stallone despicable, though? Voight and Gibson are beyond despicable. Bit I thought Stallone was a cultured , reasonable man. I could be wrong. i haven’t paid that much attention. 

[Liddy52]

4 hours ago, PRgal said:

You know what I rarely see addressed when we talk about privilege?  LINGUISTIC PRIVILEGE.  This is something I rarely see and hear in DEI seminars, likely because it centres around workplaces where everyone can function in the local language.  However, this fails to address A LOT of communication issues elsewhere (e.g. in schools, where parents may have challenges helping their kids with schoolwork/projects because they don't understand what's being asked for.  Or when they're speaking with teachers to get help for their children such as an IEP (or understanding the need for an IEP)).  It's also important in healthcare, but hospitals tend to be pretty good at getting interpreters.  Also, there are local terms that an expat (or new immigrant) might not be familiar with.  For example, many Canadians didn't realize that "root" has a TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANING in Australian English, one that is NSFW.  I've brought these issues up before in DEI groups, but again, it's brushed off with a focus ONLY on "appearance" (i.e. race).  I really don't understand.

This is also true for those in the Deaf community who use ASL to communicate. 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 5 by Liddy52

[Annber03]

2 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Last night's Last Week Tonight covers the subject of deportations. In case you needed a reason to be mad, this might help you.

Reopen Alcatraz? Fuck it, why not announce plans to access the Phantom Zone?

This was one of the most horrifying and disturbing segments ever. Soooooooooooooooo many words I could use  to describe Trump after watching that, but I'm fairly certain most of them would be removed by the mods.

John's "rot in hell" sentiments pretty well summed it up, though. Also, that reporter that interviewed Trump has far, far more restraint than I think many in his shoes would. 

But yeah, I think we should require every single Trump supporter to watch this clip. Repeatedly. Until it finally sinks into their heads. 

Edited May 5 by Annber03

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, Liddy52 said:

This is also true for those in the Deaf community who use ASL to communicate. 

 

 

 

 

And this brings up the issue of people from abroad who use different sign languages.  English Canada uses ASL but when someone from the UK comes, they might have trouble communicating.  I’m not sure how different BSL is from ASL.  Anyone know?

[supposebly]

American Sign Language is related to French Sign Language. It's a different language from British Sign Language. They are very different languages, meaning different types of signing, different grammar, different vocabulary.

https://www.aslbloom.com/blog/asl-vs-bsl

 

 

[Eri]

25 minutes ago, PRgal said:

And this brings up the issue of people from abroad who use different sign languages.  English Canada uses ASL but when someone from the UK comes, they might have trouble communicating.  I’m not sure how different BSL is from ASL.  Anyone know?

They're quite different. Canadian Sign Language (LSQ) is mainly used in Quebec and other francophone regions of Canada. ASL and BSL have significant differences in their structure, vocabulary, and cultural context. When deaf individuals from different countries communicate internationally, they have the option to use International Sign (IS) which incorporates signs from various national sign languages and includes mouthings from spoken languages.

Ahh @supposebly beat me to it haha.

Edited May 5 by Eri

[ebk57]

5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/trump-pete-rose-hall-of-fame-rob-manfred-a303e497?st=mryBz2&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Important business for Trump today--making sure Pete Rose gets elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.  From one felon to another, I guess.  Pete Rose served prison time for tax evasion.  I guess Trump could pardon him. 

He already pardoned him.  Now he's trying to get him un-banned from baseball so he can get to the HOF.  

 

Why does the commissioner hate baseball???

[EtheltoTillie]

Speaking of variations in sign language, I saw an episode of the British mystery Chelsea Detective recently where regional sign language was an important clue.  In Manchester they sign certain words differently from other locations, so the interpreter knew that a particular character came from Manchester rather than London. 

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, Eri said:

They're quite different. Canadian Sign Language (LSQ) is mainly used in Quebec and other francophone regions of Canada. ASL and BSL have significant differences in their structure, vocabulary, and cultural context. When deaf individuals from different countries communicate internationally, they have the option to use International Sign (IS) which incorporates signs from various national sign languages and includes mouthings from spoken languages.

Ahh @supposebly beat me to it haha.

Do most people in the Deaf community know at least some IS?

[Eri]

29 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Do most people in the Deaf community know at least some IS?

Not to my knowledge no. International Sign can be useful for international communication, but most Deaf people I know of primarily use their local sign language. Since the community is diverse and includes people who may join later in life, not all members may be fluent in any particular sign language, but they are likely to know some form of it.

Btw, It is AANHPI (Asian American / National Hawaiian / Pacific Islander) Heritage Month in the US so I'll gladly DM you for any stories you might have to share :)

[Kemper]

4 hours ago, Affogato said:

Is Stallone despicable, though? Voight and Gibson are beyond despicable. Bit I thought Stallone was a cultured , reasonable man. I could be wrong. i haven’t paid that much attention. 

Thank you...I didn't word that like I should have. He has had a successful career and still gets press.  But I have no idea what is going on with his eyebrows ... I cannot look away. They are like giant, black inverted alphabet "Vs" that give him a wild look of perpetual surprise. 

[Eri]

Stallone, Schwarzenegger and Norris were the trifecta for 80s action flicks!

Spoiler

I'll take Schwarzenegger over Stallone any day though

 

[Soapy Goddess]

21 hours ago, Anela said:

But you voted for someone who doesn't want that. They are trying to erase any differences. 

A voter doesn't have to agree with every policy in order to vote for a particular candidate. 

[Anela]

21 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

A voter doesn't have to agree with every policy in order to vote for a particular candidate. 

No, but he made his plans very clear, and you knew who he was. 

They tried to backtrack on Project 2025, last Summer, and then laughed about it when the election was over. "Yes, it actually is the plan!" 

[fastiller]

Just going to drop this here.

Protect My Public Media

 

[Soapy Goddess]

42 minutes ago, Anela said:

No, but he made his plans very clear, and you knew who he was. 

How many politicians make plans and then never follow through? 

Yes, we knew who he was. It's what he isn't that got him elected.

[StatisticalOutlier]

16 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Yes, Mel Gibson is just the actor/director you want when your purpose is to bring back American film making. An Aussie who's biggest hits and award winners were set and filmed in Scotland, Mexico, and Italy.

And this summer his new Jesus movie will start production...in Italy.

[PRgal]

7 hours ago, Eri said:

Not to my knowledge no. International Sign can be useful for international communication, but most Deaf people I know of primarily use their local sign language. Since the community is diverse and includes people who may join later in life, not all members may be fluent in any particular sign language, but they are likely to know some form of it.

Btw, It is AANHPI (Asian American / National Hawaiian / Pacific Islander) Heritage Month in the US so I'll gladly DM you for any stories you might have to share :)

It’d also Jewish Heritage Month.  It’s really too bad book #2 is nowhere close to ready for a launch this month (in case you didn’t know, my family is interfaith).
 

Canadians also don’t use nearly as many letters.  We just say Asian Heritage Month. We don’t say Asian Canadian, likely to include people who are not yet citizens or are expats. 

[bluegirl147]

9 hours ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

What a fucking abomination. That Michael Byrd's bullet hit its target is pretty much the only thing that went right that day. 

The fact she is considered a martyr while the law enforcement officers who were there that day are vilified by MAGA is truly an abomination. 

9 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I'm sorry anyone had to die that day or in the days following. All for a treasonous, viscous monster. Why?

The insurrection was just Trump's way of saying drink this Kool Aid. He of course did not take a drink.

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Yes, we knew who he was. It's what he isn't that got him elected.

You knew he was an incompetent doddering old fool?

If voters wanted to elect someone who never makes the right decision. Never listens to people who actually know what the right decision is. Is corrupt.  And keeps digging a bigger hole for America to fall into then yeah I can understand why people voted for him.

6 hours ago, tearknee said:

I'm not sorry she's dead -- she was leading a mob hunting down fleeing members of Congress. And her mom deliberately misspelled Ashley.

I'm not going to shed a tear for her.  She was engaged in a crime and disregarded officers telling her to stop.  How many people of color are shot by the police for doing nothing but being people of color?

 

[shapeshifter]

10 hours ago, Eri said:

Stallone, Schwarzenegger and Norris were the trifecta for 80s action flicks!

I'll take Schwarzenegger over Stallone any day though

I'm glad I took a moment to look this up. His family soap opera aside, I can now agree:
theguardian.com/film/2023/jun/06/arnold-schwarzenegger-expresses-regret-over-groping-claims
— not just because Schwarzenegger apologized, but because he publicly denounced the behaviour — no excuses about beer, locker-room talk, or anything else.
It sort of(?) explains why political cartoonist Garry Trudeau's depictions of Arnold as a (groping) hand have seemingly disappeared from the internet, although here's a book cover of Trudeau's work from 2004 from Amazon: amazon.com/Talk-Hand-Doonesbury-G-Trudeau/dp/0740746715
which is still available. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:49 PM by shapeshifter

[BetyBee]

14 hours ago, Liddy52 said:

This is also true for those in the Deaf community who use ASL to communicate.

I worked as a teacher's aide years ago and one of my tasks was taking notes for a deaf student. The Special Ed teacher scolded me for "giving her an advantage!" by taking thorough notes that included nuances in her lecture that hearing students could pick up on easily (if they were paying attention). I was appalled by her scolding and continued to take good notes!

[shapeshifter]

6 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

knew he was an incompetent doddering old fool?

I'm not sure that he hasn't been playing the role of Harmless Old Racist Gramps at the same time he all but gleefully admitted to being the "Snake" in that poem he loved to trot out: youtube.com/watch?v=qSrOXvoNLwg

Hopefully he is morphing into "harmless," but it cannot come soon enough. 
I've rewatched the ABC News interview portion about the Photoshopped image of the tattoos too many times, and can still only conclude that he had learned it was Photoshopped before that interview but also wants to preserve the excuse that he doesn't know (youtube.com/watch?v=am-Xs4Dug1o).

 

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

but also wants to preserve the excuse that he doesn't know

That is always his excuse when he is asked about something he knows is bad but doesn't want to take any responsibility for.  He has spent a lifetime shirking responsibility.  Remember when Marla confronted him and Ivana on the ski slopes?  He ran skied away.  He is and always has been a coward. If I'm wrong and there is a god I hope Trump will have to answer for all that he has done.  I'm becoming discouraged he will ever answer for anything while he is alive. 

[Affogato]

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

How many politicians make plans and then never follow through? 

Yes, we knew who he was. It's what he isn't that got him elected.

Isn’t capable of keeping competent advisors who are qualified to do the job? Isn’t capable of showing concern for anyone disadvantaged or down on their luck. Isn’t capable of stringing two coherent sentences together? Isn’t aware of how the government works? 

Edited Tuesday at 02:09 PM by Affogato

[Dimity]

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Yes, we knew who he was. It's what he isn't that got him elected.

Oh absolutely true.  He isn't a woman and he isn't black and most importantly he isn't a black woman.

The fact that he is a convicted felon, a serial liar and a man who tried to inspire an insurrection paled in comparison.

Edited Tuesday at 02:29 PM by Dimity

[Bookish Jen]

No wonder why Oklahoma is ranked 49th in education.

New curriculum will require students to learn 2020 election fraud conspiracies.

[PRgal]

He's meeting with PM Mark Carney today.  Yesterday, he said he wasn't sure why the meeting was occurring to begin with and I hope that he and his team will treat our PM with respect.  He seems to be a little more scared of him than he was of Trudeau.   

[Dimity]

Just now, PRgal said:

He's meeting with PM Mark Carney today.  Yesterday, he said he wasn't sure why the meeting was occurring to begin with and I hope that he and his team will treat our PM with respect.  He seems to be a little more scared of him than he was of Trudeau.   

I think he knows Carney is a lot smarter than he is (not that this is a difficult thing to be) but with regard to Trudeau there was a some deep seated psycho jealousy going on there. 

Handsome youngish man - gross old man.

 

[PRgal]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I think he knows Carney is a lot smarter than he is (not that this is a difficult thing to be) but with regard to Trudeau there was a some deep seated psycho jealousy going on there. 

Handsome youngish man - gross old man.

 

This.  Plus Carney played hockey for Harvard.  He REALLY CAN go elbows up.

[Dimity]

Just now, PRgal said:

This.  Plus Carney played hockey for Harvard.  He REALLY CAN go elbows up.

I didn't know that!!

[tearknee]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm glad I took a moment to look this up. His family soap opera aside, I can now agree:
theguardian.com/film/2023/jun/06/arnold-schwarzenegger-expresses-regret-over-groping-claims
— not just because Schwarzenegger apologized, but because he publicly denounced the behaviour — no excuses about beer, locker-room talk, or anything else.
It sort of(?) explains why political cartoonist Garry Trudeau's depictions of Arnold as a (groping) hand have seemingly disappeared from the internet, although here's a book cover of Trudeau's work from 2004 from Amazon: amazon.com/Talk-Hand-Doonesbury-G-Trudeau/dp/0740746715
which is still available. 

 

Arnie's dad was abusive, an alcoholic and a servant of the Reich. His son should have got treatment for that horrible childhood but didn't. Too stigmatized. Still is.

[tres bien]

10 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

A voter doesn't have to agree with every policy in order to vote for a particular candidate. 

I agree and before 2016 I always voted by candidate not party although I’ve always been a registered democrat 

But times have changed 

[PRgal]

14 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I didn't know that!!

He was Harvard's backup goalie, according to Wikipedia (I guess not much elbows up there), but still, the guy played hockey.

[fastiller]

51 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I think he knows Carney is a lot smarter than he is (not that this is a difficult thing to be) but with regard to Trudeau there was a some deep seated psycho jealousy going on there. 

Handsome youngish man - gross old man.

 

And both of his beloved (blech!) women know just how handsome:

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

He's meeting with PM Mark Carney today.

My husband told me that they are supposed to meet and then have lunch together.  We've got a friendly bet going on whether they'll be dining on Big Macs or quarter pounders with cheese.

[tearknee]

And the Mickey Ds bag, deep fried. 

[tres bien]

Following Trump’s Oval Office press conference with PM Carney on Bluesky and it’s a unmitigated shit show 

He’s insulted everyone from Barak Obama to Gavin Newsom to China and Canada

I give the PM a lot of credit for sitting with a poker face 

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

My husband told me that they are supposed to meet and then have lunch together.  We've got a friendly bet going on whether they'll be dining on Big Macs or quarter pounders with cheese.

McNuggets?  But then again, that's not his thing, is it?

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

11 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

If voters wanted to elect someone who never makes the right decision. Never listens to people who actually know what the right decision is. Is corrupt.  And keeps digging a bigger hole for America to fall into then yeah I can understand why people voted for him.

Mein Liebchen, yes, it's true, the shops are hardly stocked anymore, coffee is scarce, you've only two pairs of shoes and your pretty dresses are threadbare; it's all a bit sad. Yes,we had to burn your favorite book (one can't be too careful), and of course you're upset that your professor moved to Dachau before the course was finished. We haven't even heard from Fritz on the front lines in more than a year, and the Steins left town last night without even saying goodbye (and they didn't even return the ladle they borrowed, so rude)! The air raid sirens have us all on edge, and Maria's nerves are shot because Jacob won't wear the star (I told her not to marry a Jew!)

But you must remember, before the Führer, inflation was terribly high, Jews controlled everything, and you could hardly cross the street without running into a lazy Pole or Gypsy begging for a handout. Thanks to the Führer (who, I admit, is a little rough around the edges), Germany is for Germans again and isn't that all that really matters?

Edited Wednesday at 12:26 AM by Milk-Eyed Mender