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25 minutes ago, Anela said:

I really feel like we shifted into an alternate timeline.  I know we didn’t, but it’s so fucked up.  

During the 45 term, I had a stock answer for things like this: 'up is down, down is wet, wet is purple, purple is next Thursday'.  I think need to update it; maybe I'll add to the end of it something like 'next Thursday is the dystopian future our grandmothers warned us about'.

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Once again, I’d like to extend a hearty fuck-you to everyone that sat out the election or voted third party. And if you’re still wondering why I’m madder at you than I am at the ones that voted for Trump, it’s because you acted like you were on our side then screwed us over just to feel morally superior in your nilism.

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39 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I feel like we all died of Covid and now we're in the Bad Place.

I would prefer to believe that than evil is winning. And not just regular run of the mill evil but so much ignorant evil.  Trump is so dumb. And he keeps getting his way. He calls himself king and the men with the nets haven't come to take him away. Could you imagine if Biden had referred to himself as king?  Congress would have started impeachment proceedings and Democrats would have started thinking it was time for a cognitive test.  There has to be more of us than them right?  We can beat them right? Because if not then what were the last 250 years for if we end up back under a mad king?

8 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Once again, I’d like to extend a hearty fuck-you to everyone that sat out the election or voted third party. And if you’re still wondering why I’m madder at you than I am at the ones that voted for Trump, it’s because you acted like you were on our side then screwed us over just to feel morally superior in your nilism.

Funny how is crickets from them now.  I don't hear any of them crowing hey we sure showed those Dems.

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As info, the CDC a few months ago changed its guidelines for the age group that should consider getiing vaccinated against pnuemococcal pneumonia. Previously, it had been recommended for those 65 and older. The new guideline is for 50 and older. While people can make their own decisions about this, you may want to consider getting the pneumonia vaccine earlier in life than you had anticipated, while it is still available to you.

 

RFK Jr. promptly cancels vaccine advisory meeting, pulls flu shot campaign

https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/02/rfk-jr-promptly-cancels-vaccine-advisory-meeting-pulls-flu-shot-campaign/

Just days after anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. became the country's top health official, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has already pulled back some of its efforts to protect Americans with safe, lifesaving vaccines. The agency has indefinitely postponed a public meeting of its vaccine advisory committee and killed a campaign promoting seasonal flu shots.

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Meanwhile on Thursday, The Washington Post reported that the HHS told the CDC to indefinitely postpone a meeting of its vaccine advisory committee (the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP), which Kennedy has criticized. ACIP, comprised of independent experts, meets regularly to review and discuss vaccine safety and efficacy data and vote on recommendations.

ACIP was previously scheduled to meet February 26 to 28 to discuss a large number of vaccines, including those against meningitis, influenza, RSV, chikungunya, HPV, mpox, pneumococcal infections, Lyme disease, COVID-19, and CMV. An HHS spokesperson told the Post that the meeting was "postponed to accommodate public comment in advance of the meeting," but there is no rescheduled date.

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3 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

RFK Jr. promptly cancels vaccine advisory meeting, pulls flu shot campaign

Along with trying to drag women back into the kitchen with a baby in her arms and two toddlers clinging to her legs, they desperately want the good old days when people died  off regularly of the flu and pneumonia. 

Trumps America.

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6 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Texas reports there are now 90 cases of measles the largest measles outbreak in over 30 years

New Mexico says that the Texas outbreak has crossed it’s borders with 8 cases being reported 

Measles is considered one of the most infectious viruses 

Too bad no one warned people and advised them to get vaccinated 

And somehow it will be Biden's fault.

 

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12 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

And somehow it will be Biden's fault.

He spent 4 years cleaning up Trump's last mess (and dealing with the ever present Trump and his Trumpian band of trouble) and it made me think about 4 years from now when a Dem hopefully takes office.  I fearlessly predict if this happens that the Republicans will expect whoever that person is to fix the MULTITUDE of messes this administration will leave behind, and they will expect it to be done in a week.  And when that proves impossible then it will never have been Trump's fault.

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4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Do you think they can see how much damage he is doing and is going to do to this country?

If they do they're being very, very quiet about it. Or rationalizing why it's not so bad, or telling themselves that it would have been worse with a Democrat in office.

3 hours ago, Anela said:

I really feel like we shifted into an alternate timeline.  I know we didn’t, but it’s so fucked up.  

I felt that way and posted that here on this thread the day after election day. I called it "Biff's World" after "Back to the Future Part II". The writer of that movie actually once said in 2015 that he was thinking of Trump when he wrote it. This is Biff's world if taken to it's worst nightmare extreme. Someone needs to get in their DeLorean to correct this because this was NOT the timeline we were supposed to get.

2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Once again, I’d like to extend a hearty fuck-you to everyone that sat out the election or voted third party. And if you’re still wondering why I’m madder at you than I am at the ones that voted for Trump, it’s because you acted like you were on our side then screwed us over just to feel morally superior in your nilism.

My husband didn't vote either but at least his non-vote wouldn't have changed anything because Harris was a sure bet to win in CT. But I'm still mad at him. Love him but still mad.

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

I would prefer to believe that than evil is winning. And not just regular run of the mill evil but so much ignorant evil.  Trump is so dumb. And he keeps getting his way. He calls himself king and the men with the nets haven't come to take him away. Could you imagine if Biden had referred to himself as king?  Congress would have started impeachment proceedings and Democrats would have started thinking it was time for a cognitive test.  There has to be more of us than them right?  We can beat them right? Because if not then what were the last 250 years for if we end up back under a mad king?

Funny how is crickets from them now.  I don't hear any of them crowing hey we sure showed those Dems.

Oh for sure. I could even see them staging another January 6 but this time worse if Biden had done even half of this shit.

Interestingly I think Trump would pass a cognitive test. He is demented emotionally, only I don't know if there's a test for that, at least not one that would give him a diagnosis. My father was like that at 90. He was sharp as a tack about current events and could ace a cognitive test, but suddenly he started telling fibs, making bad decisions and acting more like a rebellious teenager than the honest, responsible guy I knew all my life. But that was on a much smaller scale than with Trump. He didn't start out a decent, nice guy like my father did with good common sense and caring about others. So when his emotional maturity becomes compromised it's much, much worse. I seriously think this might be happening with Trump. This is on a new level, even for him. It's seriously wackadoodle.

And yes, it is crickets. The few I've heard are either not aware of what's really going on and avoid learning about it or seeing it and still in denial about how bad it has gotten. My husband is avoiding the news because every time he sees something new it makes him very upset. He just found out about their intentions with the Post Office and he told me it made him very mad but he didn't want to talk about it.

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5 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

The GOP sold out the American people a long time ago. Even people like Liz Cheney. Sure it's great she saw Trump as the clear and present danger he is but she voted with him for all his economic policies all the time. Republican politicians only play populists during election time.  They think anyone not donating to their campaigns aren't worthy of their concern.  Wasn't it Paul Ryan who said there are job creators and takers? His way of saying if you aren't rich you aren't contributing. Guess all the people who work at the jobs created (or as I like to call them tax paying employees) don't matter. Labor is nothing but a line item on budgets now.  And the first thing they always cut.  One reason our national debt soared after Bill Clinton left office was because more and more companies moved operations overseas.  And what happened?  Less jobs and therefore less employees paying taxes so less revenue coming into the Federal coffers.  But sure let's blame the "takers" for all that is wrong.

Yep. For as long as I've been alive, I have never known the GOP to be genuinely "small government", not in the ways it really matters. If they were, they wouldn't have spent decades trying to regulate what women could do with thier bodies and reproductive choices, or trying to stop LGBTQ+ from marrying/having kids/having sex at all/just basically living their lives in general.  They wouldn't go hardcore with these dumbass immigrant raids they're trying to pull, which are doing nothing other than traumatizing and harassing said immigrants for no justifiable reason. 

I just want the people defending Trump to explain how forcing women to have babies, or firing federal employees, or getting us into a trade war that's jacking up the price of everything, or will jack up the price of everything, is supposed to help with people's economic woes and financial struggles, or how it's supposed to solve our inflation problem. I mean, supposedly that's why they all voted for him, right? They didn't feel Biden was doing enough to tackle our economic struggles? 

And yet Trump's policies and actions are only furhter exacerbating said economic struggles and adding to people's financial misery. And he's buddy buddy with Elon Musk, one of the richest men in the world, who's doing just fine for himself and will not have to worry one bit about being able to afford anything he wants. 

So yeah, please, do enlighten me as to how this is all supposed to help everyone who's struggling financially right now, or how this will magically solve our inflation problems. Go on. I'll wait. 

6 hours ago, Yeah No said:

You know, I have to laugh about the MAGA bunch. Many of them are poor and lower middle class whites. You know, the ones that live out in the back woods and are "doomsday preppers". Well, they might have to dip into their doomsday stash sooner than they thought and for totally different reasons after Trump and Musk get through with taking down our entire government. Because all of this is going to hurt people like THEM the most! Oh, but they'd take a bullet for Donnie, because he "lurves" them so much. Gag me!

I'm just wondering when the gun nuts out there are going to take up arms against Trump and his dictator buddies. I mean, supposedly that's why they keep insisting that people need to have the right to own guns, right, to take up arms against a tyrannical government? Well, this is about as tyrannical as it gets, so I'm sure they'll be along anytime now to raise a fuss.

Yep. Aaaaaaaaanytime now. 

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Good job, MAGAs. I hope you're feeling this right in your economic insecurity.

CNN — 

US stock markets fell sharply Friday after an economic report showed American consumers are growing increasingly fearful of price increases and how President Donald Trump’s tariffs could reignite the inflation crisis.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 748 points, or 1.7%. The broader S&P 500 also sank 1.7% and the Nasdaq was 2.2% lower. The Dow tumbled for the second consecutive day, falling about 1,200 points over the course of Thursday and Friday.

The University of Michigan’s latest survey, released Friday, showed that US consumer sentiment declined in February for the second consecutive month, according to a final reading, down by a steep 10% from January. That was double the decline initially reported earlier this month.

The survey found that Americans are losing confidence in the economy, driven primarily by worries over Trump’s tariffs potentially jacking up prices.

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On 2/16/2025 at 4:22 PM, tres bien said:

How long will it take barring the lawsuits till all of the slashing and burning down of the federal agencies begins to affect everyday people?

The federal employees are the only people that are coping with the aftermath right now but at some point it’s all of us

I figured my husband and I were lucky to be in the position we’re in but now I’m not so sure and I fear for my two daughters. 

So what will it be six months? Nine months?

People were reporting hour long waits to enter Grand Canyon NP for President's Day weekend.  The four people who handle the entrance desk were terminated on the 14th.  So, one day.

People probably started seeing slow downs on things like Social Security questions and forms this week.

When is the FAFSA due?  Those people are toast I would think.  That'll screw up every single kid in college who can't pay their own way.

BTW - gasoline in my neck of the woods is up 40cents/gallon in the last 3 weeks. All on Trump's watch.  When is he going to fix that?

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4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Good job, MAGAs. I hope you're feeling this right in your economic insecurity.

CNN — 

US stock markets fell sharply Friday after an economic report showed American consumers are growing increasingly fearful of price increases and how President Donald Trump’s tariffs could reignite the inflation crisis.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 748 points, or 1.7%. The broader S&P 500 also sank 1.7% and the Nasdaq was 2.2% lower. The Dow tumbled for the second consecutive day, falling about 1,200 points over the course of Thursday and Friday.

The University of Michigan’s latest survey, released Friday, showed that US consumer sentiment declined in February for the second consecutive month, according to a final reading, down by a steep 10% from January. That was double the decline initially reported earlier this month.

The survey found that Americans are losing confidence in the economy, driven primarily by worries over Trump’s tariffs potentially jacking up prices.

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1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Are you people trying to tell me that firing thousands upon thousands of wage earners might be a negative thing for the economy? 

That one national park guy who was fired last weekend, said they'd left hundreds of people jobless, and homeless - families. The first one said he and his wife had another child on the way. Further proof that trump and co. don't care about families. 

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US Governors met with DJT today. The cameras were rolling. Via Acyn's (Meidas Touch) BlueSky account. The link below has a 30 second video clip with more of the interaction. Extortion, live on TV!

 

Gov. Mills: I’ll comply with the state and federal laws 

Trump: We are the federal law. You better do it because you’re not going to get any federal funds. 

Gov Mills: See you in court 

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lipilq64qt2s

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27 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

US Governors met with DJT today. The cameras were rolling. Via Acyn's (Meidas Touch) BlueSky account. The link below has a 30 second video clip with more of the interaction. Extortion, live on TV!

 

Gov. Mills: I’ll comply with the state and federal laws 

Trump: We are the federal law. You better do it because you’re not going to get any federal funds. 

Gov Mills: See you in court 

https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lipilq64qt2s

^^^and this parting shot from the above exchange:

“Good, I’ll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one,” Trump said. “And enjoy your life after governor because I don’t think you’ll be in elected politics.”

God, he's such a thug! 😡😡😡

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2 hours ago, LexieLily said:

If the rich people don't get their stock market boosts, maybe that will be what gets the GOP and/or the ass-kissing billionaires to take a stand. Or a stepstool step, she says hopefully.

We can only hope! The MAGAs will take a bullet for him but I don't know about the rich because $$ is everything to them.

2 hours ago, PRgal said:

But @Yeah No, how far back do we need to go?  Summer 2024?  Or all the way back to the 2016s?

Preferably way back to before the 2016 election when there was still a chance that he could have lost the first time. If that could have been prevented in the first place we wouldn't be here right now. That's when the most pain and suffering could have been averted. But how someone in their time machine could go back and prevent it is the question. What could they have done to change the outcome? Told Hilary to campaign in the fly-over states more? I really don't know.

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1 minute ago, Yeah No said:

Preferably way back to before the 2016 election when there was still a chance that he could have lost the first time.

There was an episode of, I think, Steven Colbert, where they did a skit involving Scott Bakula reprising his role on Quantum Leap.  He's a taxi driver with a young Donald Trump as a passenger.  He drives into the river...

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3 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I'm just wondering when the gun nuts out there are going to take up arms against Trump and his dictator buddies. I mean, supposedly that's why they keep insisting that people need to have the right to own guns, right, to take up arms against a tyrannical government? Well, this is about as tyrannical as it gets, so I'm sure they'll be along anytime now to raise a fuss.

Yep. Aaaaaaaaanytime now. 

Yeah it could happen that that more gun toting nuts like the one that made the recent assassination attempt on him might band together. Most of those fanatics are not willing to turn against their dear leader any time soon, though, but the crazier he gets the more people might get fed up. 

My fear is that those nuts that are most devoted to him can be turned against anyone that isn't "one of them". They'll defend the tyranny from anyone who isn't on board with Trump. A very scary thought.

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4 hours ago, Dimity said:

He spent 4 years cleaning up Trump's last mess (and dealing with the ever present Trump and his Trumpian band of trouble) and it made me think about 4 years from now when a Dem hopefully takes office.  I fearlessly predict if this happens that the Republicans will expect whoever that person is to fix the MULTITUDE of messes this administration will leave behind, and they will expect it to be done in a week.  And when that proves impossible then it will never have been Trump's fault.

Well tRump is never responsible for anything as he will always say. Highest ratings ever. Not my fault/responsibility etc. Harry Truman of "the buck stops here" would have a thing or two to say. 

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1 hour ago, Anela said:

That one national park guy who was fired last weekend, said they'd left hundreds of people jobless, and homeless - families. The first one said he and his wife had another child on the way. Further proof that trump and co. don't care about families. 

 

34 minutes ago, Anela said:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-brown-joint-chiefs-of-staff-firing-fa428cc1508a583b3bf5e7a5a58f6acf

Trump fires chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and two other military officers

 

32 minutes ago, ECM1231 said:

^^^and this parting shot from the above exchange:

“Good, I’ll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one,” Trump said. “And enjoy your life after governor because I don’t think you’ll be in elected politics.”

God, he's such a thug! 😡😡😡

Would love to see Trump supporters try and defend or explain away any of this. They okay with all of this? 

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12 hours ago, Yeah No said:

You know, I have to laugh about the MAGA bunch. Many of them are poor and lower middle class whites. You know, the ones that live out in the back woods and are "doomsday preppers". Well, they might have to dip into their doomsday stash sooner than they thought and for totally different reasons after Trump and Musk get through with taking down our entire government. Because all of this is going to hurt people like THEM the most! Oh, but they'd take a bullet for Donnie, because he "lurves" them so much. Gag me!

 

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6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

They wouldn't go hardcore with these dumbass immigrant raids they're trying to pull, which are doing nothing other than traumatizing and harassing said immigrants for no justifiable reason. 

No justifiable reason? What about entering our country illegally?

 

6 hours ago, Annber03 said:

So yeah, please, do enlighten me as to how this is all supposed to help everyone who's struggling financially right now, or how this will magically solve our inflation problems.

How about finding all these expenditures that added to our national debt?

 

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3 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

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You keep posting these memes and analogies and acting as if you’re making direct correlations when you’re ignoring important, crucial details. First of all, Clinton and Obama wanted to cut actual wasteful spending - not made up things or pretending important programs are wasteful. And, more importantly they did it LEGALLY. They didn’t ignore laws and the Constitution and basically dare anyone to stop them. Obama and Clinton didn’t bypass Congress and hand the decision-making over to a megalomaniacal billionaire and his group of unqualified 20 years olds. PS. He’s called a fascist dictator for so, so, so much more than his BS claims of wanting to cut wasteful spending. 
 

3 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

No justifiable reason? What about entering our country illegally?

 

How about finding all these expenditures that added to our national debt?

 

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Where’s the proof all of these people are here illegally ? And, even if they are, there’s a way to do this without treating these people as if they’re animals or denying them their rights (and, yes, people here illegally still have rights) and sending them off to Guantanamo.

I’m sorry but using Musk’s moron stooges tweet is not proof of anything, since they’ve already been caught lying about so-called wasteful spending that they found.

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Freezing USAID's funding eliminates ventures that foster positive sociopolitical values, such as variations on The CIA Book Club (because fascists love the uneducated). The Guardian strikes again.

Former head of international news at the Guardian, Charlie English is the first to uncover this true story of Cold War spy craft, smuggling and secret printing operations, highlighting the work of a handful of extraordinary people who risked their lives to stand up to the intellectual strait-jacket Stalin created.

For almost five decades after the Second World War, the Iron Curtain divided Europe, standing as the longest and most heavily guarded border on earth. With the risk of nuclear annihilation too high for physical combat, conflict was reserved for the psychological sphere. No one understood this battle of hearts, minds, and intellects more clearly than Bucharest-born George Minden, the head of a covert intelligence operation known as the “CIA books program.” This initiative aimed to win the Cold War with literature: to undermine the censorship of the Soviet bloc and inspire revolt by offering different visions of thought and culture to the people. 

From its Manhattan headquarters, Minden’s global CIA “book club” would infiltrate millions of banned titles into the Eastern Bloc, written by a vast and eclectic list of authors. Volumes were smuggled on trucks and aboard yachts, dropped from balloons, and hidden in the luggage of hundreds of thousands of individual travelers. Once inside Soviet bloc, each book would circulate secretly among dozens of like-minded readers, quietly turning them into dissidents. Soon, underground print shops began to reproduce the books, too. By the late 1980s, illicit literature in Poland was so pervasive that the system of communist censorship broke down, and the Iron Curtain soon followed.

https://www.amazon.com/CIA-Book-Club-Forbidden-Literature-ebook/dp/B0DQH6PG83/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

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The CIA smuggled the Guardian Weekly to eastern bloc countries during the cold war, a new book reveals. Copies of this newspaper were sent as part of a broader secret programme that got literature by authors including George Orwell and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn behind the Iron Curtain.

While the book programme is given “almost no credit” for bringing about the end of the cold war, dissidents say literature was vital to the anti-communist movement in Poland, and former CIA officers believe it played a significant role in ending the war. “

Within the CIA, it was Operation Cyclone, which financed the Afghan mujahideen, that “took the plaudits for bringing about the end of the cold war”, wrote English. This may have been because Cyclone cost $700m a year, while the book programme’s latterday budget was $2 to $4m annually. Given the “tremendous outlay, it was politically expedient to give the Afghan action all the credit”.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/feb/22/the-cia-smuggled-the-guardian-into-the-eastern-bloc-during-the-cold-war

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4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

No justifiable reason? What about entering our country illegally?

 

How about finding all these expenditures that added to our national debt?

 

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So...you're okay with ICE busting into schools and traumatizing the shit out of children because of the (supposed) actions of their parents? That's cool with you? 

We're not even going to get into the fact that people are harassing immigrants regardless of legal status, because these raids are nothing more than a way for racist/xenophobic assholes to make life hell for non-white people. The legal status is not the issue here, it never has been. They're just pissed that immigrants are here at all, period. Never mind the fact that immigration, both legal and illegal, is literally the bedrock of our country's history. 

The fact is that it literally does not matter if someone came here legally or not, they still deserve to be treated like human beings. It's called compasion and basic civil rights. Remember those? Kind of supposed to be an immportant cornerstone of our country's belief system? Yeah. 

To say nothing of how it might help your argument railing about immigrants' legal status if you weren't out here quoting from a foreign citizen who is literally taking over important aspects of our govenrment despite the fact that he, y'know, was not on the presidential ballot and has zero power, or should have zero power, over anything we do here. If you're going to get upset about foreigners coming into our country, go yell at Musk, not the average person who's simply trying to cross the border to make a better life for htemselves and thier families. 

And on the note of your quoting Musk in regards to your "wasetful spending"post, if you're using his BS claims as yoru evidence, your"proof", your argument is already null and void. It's laughable that you think his claims are to be trusted and believed. 

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8 hours ago, Anela said:

https://apnews.com/article/trump-brown-joint-chiefs-of-staff-firing-fa428cc1508a583b3bf5e7a5a58f6acf

Trump fires chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and two other military officers

This makes me not only angry as hell it makes me sick 

This most unpatriotic man has no respect for the military or people that serve our country and are willing to put their lives on the line for the rest of us

He replaced the Chairman of the Joint Staff four star general Charles P Brown with a retired three star general.

Also fired Admiral Lisa Franchcetti Chief of the Navy was the first woman to serve as admiral, the most senior general and the first woman to serve on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (In 2024) DOD secretary Hegsteth called her a DEI hire (I hope you’re proud of your vote Joni Ernst)

On January 21st a day after his inauguration Trump fired the female Coast Guard Commmandant

The Vice Chief of the Air Force was also fired yesterday 

This purging at the top of the military is being called unprecedented by news organizations. What kind of people will he put in their place? MAGA military sycophants?

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