Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Wiendish Fitch]

9 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

LOL. I'm just glad someone got the reference. I almost didn't post because I wasn't sure how many people would know what I was talking about. 

Oh, don't you worry, "Electric Boogaloo" is definitely part of modern mainstream lexicon. Heck, I wonder if people remember that there was a first Breakin' movie...

[chitowngirl]

I wonder if SCOTUS knew that the sentence was going to be no jail time, so their denial came across as “doing the right thing” and therefore saving face…

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

I wonder if SCOTUS knew that the sentence was going to be no jail time, so their denial came across as “doing the right thing” and therefore saving face…

That is an excellent point.

[bluegirl147]

6 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

I wonder if SCOTUS knew that the sentence was going to be no jail time, so their denial came across as “doing the right thing” and therefore saving face…

The judge had said there would be no jail time when he set the date. So yeah it's a possibility, more like probability.  And the fact that Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas all voted in favor of Trump is them saying don't worry buddy we will always have your back.   Roberts voting no is his way of saying I least am trying to not look corrupt.  ACB I can't get a read on.  Her main issue was abortion.  I don't think she is MAGA but we shall see going forward if she will fall in line with the conservatives on the court.

[kittykat]

3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

And you can thank the people that refused to vote, but they'll just keep blaming everyone else instead.

But they didn't know what Kamala was about! 

18 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

The judge had said there would be no jail time when he set the date. So yeah it's a possibility, more like probability.  And the fact that Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch and Thomas all voted in favor of Trump is them saying don't worry buddy we will always have your back.   Roberts voting no is his way of saying I least am trying to not look corrupt.  ACB I can't get a read on.  Her main issue was abortion.  I don't think she is MAGA but we shall see going forward if she will fall in line with the conservatives on the court.

Yeah she's a strange one to peg.  She almost does the right thing then doesn't but has also sided with the other female justices before.  Roberts was a reliable swing vote for years but when the conservatives got the super majority on the court he was less scrupulous about siding with them.

[peacheslatour]

L O fucking L. From Newsweek-

 

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, dating could significantly change as singles begin to scrutinize their dating app matches' voting history.

While former President Donald Trump won the election over Vice President Kamala Harris, political polarization has divided the country, and many refuse to date outside of their political party.

Women especially may be more likely to reject a potential date based on his voting history, according to a new survey of nearly 1,400 users from dating app Coffee Meets Bagel.

Roughly 77 percent of female users said they wouldn't date someone who supports Trump, compared to 65 percent of Coffee Meets Bagel's overall user base.

[Lantern7]

I had to go to the drug store today. I try so hard not to look at the front page of the Post because they piss me off almost every time. I looked.

Cute, huh? If Alexander Hamilton knew what would become of the newspaper he’d create, he would not have waited for Aaron Burr to do him in.

[peacheslatour]

15 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I had to go to the drug store today. I try so hard not to look at the front page of the Post because they piss me off almost every time. I looked.

Cute, huh? If Alexander Hamilton knew what would become of the newspaper he’d create, he would not have waited for Aaron Burr to do him in.

Isn't it just the usual gang of idiots though, like James Woods?

[kittykat]

James Woods can eat rocks.  I genuinely feel bad for others.  Billy Crystal and his wife lost their home of 46 years.  That sucks, not just the money but the memories. Cary Elwes and his family also lost theirs, leave Westley alone you smoldering bastard! My heart is obviously with all the non celebrities as well.

Edited January 10 by kittykat

[peacheslatour]

8 minutes ago, kittykat said:

James Woods can eat rocks.  I genuinely feel bad for others.  Billy Crystal and his wife lost their home of 46 years.  That sucks, not just the money but the memories. Cary Elwes and his family also lost theirs, leave Westley alone you smoldering bastard! My heart is obviously with all the non celebrities as well.

Eric Braeden (the immortal Victor Newman) lost his as well but he's not blaming the evil gubmint.

[peacheslatour]

Just now, Spartan Girl said:

The assholes gloating over the “rich people” losing their homes while ignoring the “regular” people are losing theirs too are just the worst. I swear, this “Eat the Rich” movement learned the wrong lessons from A Tale of Two Cities. 

It's an unmitigated tragedy. I feel terrible for everyone. All those beautiful homes, some over a century old. My DIL and I are always sending each other pictures of gorgeous homes so we can drool over them. Just the loss of so much historic architecture, not to mention human and animal life, breaks my heart. The Seattle Humane Society and other shelters here have taken in hundreds of pets that panicked an became lost in the chaos. It's hideous to take pleasure in something like this.

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

The assholes gloating over the “rich people” losing their homes while ignoring the “regular” people are losing theirs too are just the worst. I swear, this “Eat the Rich” movement learned the wrong lessons from A Tale of Two Cities. 

I noticed this a lot in the build up to the election - very  nasty, mean-spirited memes and posts that were just awful.  I want my 'side' to be better than that.

[peacheslatour]

Just now, Dimity said:

I noticed this a lot in the build up to the election - very  nasty, mean-spirited memes and posts that were just awful.  I want my 'side' to be better than that.

And then we get told we lost because we don't get down I the dirt with them. Let's face it. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

[Dimity]

15 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

And then we get told we lost because we don't get down I the dirt with them.

I guess the difference is the ones making disgusting, hateful posts on the Dems side were anonymous people on the Internet.  The ones being absolutely disgusting on the Republicans side were the ones running for office.

[peacheslatour]

This was the HQ for Mussolini's party during WWII. Remind us of anyone?

[Bastet]

3 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

I wonder if SCOTUS knew that the sentence was going to be no jail time, so their denial came across as “doing the right thing” and therefore saving face…

They knew, because the judge had already said it.  It was the basis for their rejection of the emergency motion; his sentencing would not be a "serious burden" since Judge Merchan had indicated no jail time, probation, or even fines.  So his arguments against the verdict could be handled by the usual appeals process, no need for a stay of sentencing.

[Annber03]

9 hours ago, fastiller said:

Well now: Idaho Republicans file resolution to repeal marriage equality

They're gonna come for Loving and Griswold too.

But..but...we're just overreacting and being overdramatic, and our complaints are "tedious"! We just need to wait and see how the GOP will do when back in power! Sure, they've been making their intentions clear for months now and that's why so many people voted for them, but that doesn't mean they actually mean it! /s

 

Edited January 10 by Annber03

[peacheslatour]

[FilmTVGeek80]

7 minutes ago, Bastet said:

They knew, because the judge had already said it.  It was the basis for their rejection of the emergency motion; his sentencing would not be a "serious burden" since Judge Merchan had indicated no jail time, probation, or even fines.  So his arguments against the verdict could be handled by the usual appeals process, no need for a stay of sentencing.

Yet four of the "justices" thought, "Nope, our king can't face any consequences, even if he's just being labeled a convicted felon."

[Annber03]

10 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

You mean the guy who doesn't even know how to hold a book?

The guy who held a Bible right before allowing police to tear gas peaceful protesters, no less. 

You know, like Jesus would've done. 

8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

I had to go to the drug store today. I try so hard not to look at the front page of the Post because they piss me off almost every time. I looked.

Cute, huh? If Alexander Hamilton knew what would become of the newspaper he’d create, he would not have waited for Aaron Burr to do him in.

You know, if people really want to be mad at someone here, I was hearing recently about how guys like Zuckerberg were donating shittons of money to Trump's inagural ceremony. And then of course there's Musk, too. 

Imagine if they donated their billions of collars to those suffering from these wildfires in California, or to the firefighters fighting them. They'd be able to recover so fast their heads would spin.

But nah. Totally easier to blame the Democrats, instead of a bunch of rich guys who want to spend their time donating to a criminal, or a party whose refusal to accept science and climate change is a large part of the reason why L.A. is on fire right now. 

God, people are fucking stupid. 

8 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

L O fucking L. From Newsweek-

 

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, dating could significantly change as singles begin to scrutinize their dating app matches' voting history.

While former President Donald Trump won the election over Vice President Kamala Harris, political polarization has divided the country, and many refuse to date outside of their political party.

Women especially may be more likely to reject a potential date based on his voting history, according to a new survey of nearly 1,400 users from dating app Coffee Meets Bagel.

Roughly 77 percent of female users said they wouldn't date someone who supports Trump, compared to 65 percent of Coffee Meets Bagel's overall user base.

I am absolutely part of that 77%. I have zero desire to date anyone who's conservative as it is, and I'm sure as fuck not going to be interested in dating anyone who's MAGA. 

Edited January 11 by Annber03

[kittykat]

8 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

You know, if people really want to be mad at someone here, I was hearing recently about how guys like Zuckerberg were donating shittons of money to Trump's inagural ceremony. And then of course there's Musk, too. 

Imagine if they donated their billions of collars to those suffering from these wildfires in California, or to the firefighters fighting them. They'd be able to recover so fast their heads would spin.

Seriously.  Jamie Lee Curtis has donated a million dollars and started a fund for those who have lost homes.  But nooooo all those evil Hollywood liberals had it coming 🙄

And yes when we say "eat the rich" the Zuckerberg, Bezos, Ellison and Musk types are what we have in mind, not actors.

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

The guy who held a Bible right before allowing police to tear gas peaceful protesters, no less. 

You know, like Jseus would've done. 

You know, if people really want to be mad at someone here, I was hearing recently about how guys like Zuckerberg were donating shittons of money to Trump's inagural ceremony. And then of course there's Musk, too. 

Imagine if they donated their billions of collars to those suffering from these wildfires in California, or to the firefighters fighting them. They'd be able to recover so fast their heads would spin.

But nah. Totally easier to blame the Democrats, instead of a bunch of rich guys who want to spend their time donating to a criminal, or a party whose refusal to accept science and climate change is a large part of the reason why L.A. is on fire right now. 

God, people are fucking stupid. 

I am absolutely part of that 77%. I have zero desire to date anyone who's conservative as it is, and I'm sure as fuck not going to be interested in dating anyone who's MAGA. 

I'm so glad I met my husband during an election year. We put our cards right on the table the first few weeks of our relationship. We both hated Reagan and voted for Carter. When I asked him about abortion he basically said "no uterus, no opinion". If anything we've both become more liberal as we've gotten older.

Edited January 10 by peacheslatour

[Lantern7]

25 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

This was the HQ for Mussolini's party during WWII. Remind us of anyone?

Looks like someone was a fan of The Wizard of Oz!

I guess anyone that gave money to the inauguration probably can't take it back and provide it to firefighters. And if they could, YKW would whine, moan, then direct his minions to make their lives miserable.

Honestly, aside from HIS pocket, where would the money go? AI-generated holograms to make the crowd look bigger than both of Obama's inaugurations combined? The creation of a state-of-the-art petting zoo where the broken toys from the first reign can be petted and loved?

[Annber03]

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

If anything we've both become more liberal as we've gotten older.

This describes myself and my mom as well. 

[bluegirl147]

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

L O fucking L. From Newsweek-

 

In the aftermath of the 2024 election, dating could significantly change as singles begin to scrutinize their dating app matches' voting history.

While former President Donald Trump won the election over Vice President Kamala Harris, political polarization has divided the country, and many refuse to date outside of their political party.

Women especially may be more likely to reject a potential date based on his voting history, according to a new survey of nearly 1,400 users from dating app Coffee Meets Bagel.

Roughly 77 percent of female users said they wouldn't date someone who supports Trump, compared to 65 percent of Coffee Meets Bagel's overall user base.

I stopped online dating after Trump ran in 2016.  I already live in a red state so I had to look to my neighboring (at the time) blue state but after Trump MAGA was all over the sites.   I would happily be alone for the rest of my life than be with a Republican let alone a Trumper.

And yes @Annber03 funny how we never hear about the oligarchs donating money to natural disaster victims.  But people like Zuck and Bezos and Musk sure do like using their platforms to ask us to donate.  Wonder how much they take as "fees".

I was born August 1968.  You know when this country was going through things.  I'm convinced I picked up all that hippie energy while in the womb because I have always been what I affectionately call myself, a bleeding heart liberal. Never not once have I ever even for a second thought about being a conservative.

[Dimity]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I'm so glad I met my husband during an election year. We put our cards right on the table the first few weeks of our relationship. We both hated Reagan and voted for Carter. When I asked him about abortion he basically said "no uterus, no opinion". If anything we've both become more liberal as we've gotten older.

I met my husband when we were both students, liberals then, liberals now.  But I would say he is probably getting more and more liberal as he's gotten older - I was kinda stuck somewhere in the middle until Trump came along and shook me out of my complacency.

[PRgal]

35 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I met my husband when we were both students, liberals then, liberals now.  But I would say he is probably getting more and more liberal as he's gotten older - I was kinda stuck somewhere in the middle until Trump came along and shook me out of my complacency.

I volunteered for our riding’s Conservative candidates throughout the naughts.  Stopped volunteering in political campaigns with work and marriage getting in the way.  For a while, I thought that to be a lady, you couldn’t be too left wing.  

[bluegirl147]

17 minutes ago, PRgal said:

  For a while, I thought that to be a lady, you couldn’t be too left wing.  

Guess it's a good thing I never wanted to be a lady. And it's more fun not to be.

[tearknee]

To support equal rights, you have to glorify the 'ladette' and the tomboy?

Hmm... Doctor Who comes to mind [emphasis mine]:

 

Quote

 

Commander Hilred: Castellan, I have to report the intruder in Sector 7...

Castellan Spandrell: Well?

Commander Hilred: Evaded us. And he shot one of my guards.

Castellan Spandrell: I see. Such efficiency.

Commander Hilred: But we have him trapped in the communications tower, Castellan.

Castellan Spandrell: Well done, Hildred. An antiquated capsule, for which you get adequate early warning, tranducts on the very perimeter of the Capitol. You are informed that the occupant is a known criminal, whereupon you allow him to escape and conceal himself in a building a mere 53 stories high. A clever stratagem, Hildred. You're trying to confuse him, I take it?

 

 

[PRgal]

11 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Guess it's a good thing I never wanted to be a lady. And it's more fun not to be.

You're looking at the gal who almost went to a Swiss finishing school.  I begged and begged my parents to send me.  But then I developed a fear of flying after 9/11.  I also asked my parents why I was never presented.

[Anela]

49 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I volunteered for our riding’s Conservative candidates throughout the naughts.  Stopped volunteering in political campaigns with work and marriage getting in the way.  For a while, I thought that to be a lady, you couldn’t be too left wing.  

That’s what they try to push here, too. 

[Dimity]

[tearknee]

[Yeah No]

16 hours ago, tres bien said:

I’m one of those people. I’ve posted not long ago that when Roe fell it felt like a death in the family to me . Unbelievable that my two daughters and granddaughter would have less rights than me (save for the fact we live in MN. Unless the republicans find a way to pass a national abortion ban)

My point was that Harris had managed the close the gap between Biden and Trump that she was handed and only lost by just over 1%.

I believe she could have won if she would have counter punched him at every lie and crazy conspiracy over the economy and immigration. Or what the democrats like to call the kitchen table issues. Speak to what the voters who were swayed by him said their #1 issues were and to the voters that sat home 

When I said pretty much the same things way back in the thread I got the response that human rights weren't worth sacrificing over grocery prices. But it's not an either/or proposition. Both things should have been emphasized during the campaign but unfortunately even if Harris thought she was doing that, it didn't come across enough. And I agree that she dropped the ball on countering him on immigration. I think she thought it was a wiser strategy to stay quiet on that but it backfired. I remember during the debate she didn't respond to him on immigration no matter how many times he baited her on it while I was on my couch punching the pillows.

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I'm so glad I met my husband during an election year. We put our cards right on the table the first few weeks of our relationship. We both hated Reagan and voted for Carter. When I asked him about abortion he basically said "no uterus, no opinion". If anything we've both become more liberal as we've gotten older.

My husband and I met when Jimmy Carter was president. We both voted for him twice and did not like Reagan. Over the years he turned into more of a fiscal Republican and voted for the Bushes on down to McCain. It bothered me, but not a whole lot because those were different times, and he was still a very socially liberal. And he was happy to see the first African American president in office even though he didn't vote for him.

It took Trump to make him sit out presidential elections. He still will not vote Democratic but won't vote for a Republican for president either, if that person's name is Donald Trump. And he has removed his Republican affiliation from his voting record and now considers himself an independent. Thank goodness, because if he suddenly had turned MAGA we would have had some issues between us! Thankfully he hates anything to do with it and and still hopes that the Republican party will return to something like it was before, but I think as time goes on he's realizing that it probably won't any time soon. So until then he is disgusted with politics in general. He still will vote for some local Republicans, but here in New England at least they are more like the old type, not MAGA assholes.

[Anela]

Didn’t Biden sign something to bring down inflation? And big stores admitted they weren’t dealing with as much theft as they claimed, and that they’d raised prices a lot, just because they could.

 

[Yeah No]

11 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

Since he was president last time I've been feeling like this is a time of Job, where God and the Devil are talking and God says, you can do whatever you want to the United States.  I know Satan wasn't allowed to kill Job, but other than that he put Job through hell.  I'm not sure what the "not allowed to do" thing is to the United States though.  

Having studied the Bible I get the point of Job, but I don't really believe that God makes deals with the devil to test humanity's faith. Unfortunately the Christian right is making a deal with the devil in Trump and thinks he is "God's flawed messenger", where God makes a profane person into an instrument for good. Yeah, I don't believe in that either. I don't think God makes anything happen that way. Reality is not some kind of board game where God moves pieces around to test us. And the Christian right's idea of what "good" is is not mine anyway. Nothing good can come from this man and even if some good did accidentally happen, at what cost to the world in other ways?

These people are really reaching to find positive in this person but in the end he will never give them what they think they're going to get from him. But what they want is not good anyway so in their case they'll get what they deserve! Too bad the rest of us have to suffer in the process....

[tearknee]

To be clear, I don't think Harris lost because she's a Black woman, at least not primarily. She lost mainly because she was Biden's Vice-President, and was unable to distance herself from Biden's negatives, particularly on the cost-of-living issue. (The fact that the post-COVID surge of inflation was neither Biden's fault nor hers is beside the point.) Having said that, I think it's clear that many men (particularly Black, Hispanic and Muslim men) were unwilling to vote for a woman for President. Her record of earlier leftish positions on various issues also hurt her - particularly the "trans issue" (whatever that issue actually is).
 

[Soapy Goddess]

31 minutes ago, tearknee said:

To be clear, I don't think Harris lost because she's a Black woman, at least not primarily. She lost mainly because she was Biden's Vice-President, and was unable to distance herself from Biden's negatives, particularly on the cost-of-living issue. (The fact that the post-COVID surge of inflation was neither Biden's fault nor hers is beside the point.) Having said that, I think it's clear that many men (particularly Black, Hispanic and Muslim men) were unwilling to vote for a woman for President. Her record of earlier leftish positions on various issues also hurt her - particularly the "trans issue" (whatever that issue actually is).
 

....and because she was unpopular. She was the first one to drop out of the presidential race due to her unlikability. 

Anyone notice how the "cackle" has disappeared? Such a phony.

[Annber03]

2 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

....and because she was unpopular. She was the first one to drop out of the presidential race due to her unlikability. 

Anyone notice how the "cackle" has disappeared? Such a phony.

Trump's about as phony and unlikeable as it gets and people still voted for him. 

Oh, but wait, he's a man, so that's okay, I guess. 

[Soapy Goddess]

6 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Trump's about as phony and unlikeable as it gets and people still voted for him. 

Oh, but wait, he's a man, so that's okay, I guess. 

Interesting that you ignore his popularity. So maybe you don't know that he won the popular vote.

[tearknee]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Interesting that you ignore his popularity. So maybe you don't know that he won the popular vote.

"you twist the story - you bring *facts* into the story!"...

 

[Annber03]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Interesting that you ignore his popularity. So maybe you don't know that he won the popular vote.

I do know that, yes. Whichis precisely my point. If being phony and unlikeable (or perceived as such, in Kamala's case, at least) ruins a woman's chances with the public, ithe same should apply to men. And it sucks that it doesn't. 

[Anela]

6 hours ago, tearknee said:

To be clear, I don't think Harris lost because she's a Black woman, at least not primarily. She lost mainly because she was Biden's Vice-President, and was unable to distance herself from Biden's negatives, particularly on the cost-of-living issue. (The fact that the post-COVID surge of inflation was neither Biden's fault nor hers is beside the point.) Having said that, I think it's clear that many men (particularly Black, Hispanic and Muslim men) were unwilling to vote for a woman for President. Her record of earlier leftish positions on various issues also hurt her - particularly the "trans issue" (whatever that issue actually is).
 

I think her earlier leftish beliefs, would have helped her.  The shift to the right didn’t. 

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Interesting that you ignore his popularity. So maybe you don't know that he won the popular vote.

Okay, Kamala got almost as many votes as he did. Why doesn’t this make her popular, too? 

[bluegirl147]

38 minutes ago, Anela said:

I think her earlier leftish beliefs, would have helped her.  The shift to the right didn’t. 

Her highlighting how many corporate CEOs were endorsing her definitely didn't help.

She is yet another Democrat who moved to the right to appeal to voters who were never going to vote for her.  And it cost her voters on the left. I also think her keeping a lot of Biden's campaign staff did not help. 

 

[tres bien]

An Obama staffers 

But the way the MAGAs are seeming to explain the election as it was nothing more than a popularity contest because he won the popular vote 

 

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Her highlighting how many corporate CEOs were endorsing her definitely didn't help.

She is yet another Democrat who moved to the right to appeal to voters who were never going to vote for her.  And it cost her voters on the left. I also think her keeping a lot of Biden's campaign staff did not help. 

Yeah but voters on the left knew that not voting for her meant Trump and that very real possibility alone would motivate them to vote for her. I don't know if that actually worked but I can see how it might have.

I personally think Kamala's recent attempts to move to the right were seen as fake by those independents that tended toward the middle and right and they didn't believe her. They thought she was doing that for show just to get their votes and that once in office she would revert back to her "old" ways. My husband was one of them and that's probably THE main reason he didn't vote for her. He was actually wishing he felt better about her on this point because he REALLY wanted to vote for a woman. In fact after she lost he told me he wished she had won. I think if we lived in a battleground state he might have actually voted for her. Living in a very blue state he knew that even if he didn't vote for her she would win here.

Edited January 11 by Yeah No
Sorry I meant her recent move to the RIGHT.

[tearknee]

1 hour ago, Anela said:

I think her earlier leftish beliefs, would have helped her.  The shift to the right didn’t. 

 

No, towards the left lies defeat. The last truly progressive U.S. President was L.B. Johnson, dead for 52 years in nearly two weeks from now.

 

The UK?

When Corbyn no longer faced the hapless May?

He found out what it was like to be Glenn Miller.

Australia?

An overtly leftist third party having some real power?

that Abbott and his party got over 90 seats.

[bluegirl147]

I like Kamala but honestly I don't know if she is left, center or somewhere in between.  I think her being a woman of color influences how she presents herself lest she be thought of as an angry black woman but then I think of Jasmine Crockett and there is no secret about what she is.

[tearknee]

If someone is perceived as having a serious chance of winning, they are assessed by the voters differently. Shirley Chisholm had no chance in 1972, and she would have gone down in flames in any case because Nixon Now but the way the average voter thought of her would have been different.

Edited January 11 by tearknee