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December 3:

80% / 63% / 70%

Made up for last night's terrible game, at least in the first round…ran Britspeak and Occupational TV (pretty good considering I didn't watch three of the shows - never seen an episode of Scandal or Sex and the City, and could probably count on one hand the number of full episodes of Two and a Half Men I've seen), missed one in Walt Whitman and Sects, and two in Social Media and "N", the City (to my shame, one of them was the one in New Jersey...).

In DJ I missed one in Science, Italian Explorers, and 6 Letters Ends in Y, two in Admissible Edifice and Photography, and four in Artist by Albums (honestly surprised I even got one; I got Bruno Mars only because I knew he has a song called 24K Magic...which is now stuck in my head).

Did not get FJ; I also thought of A Tale of Two Cities but I knew the year was too late for that (it's set in 1775-1792); couldn't get my brain off Dickens but couldn't think of another likely title, either. I've never read War & Peace and would not have come up with it, regardless.

TSes: (J had 8 (and I got 7 of 'em!); DJ had 3 + 1 DD) I got bugles, prison, Two and a Half Men, Olivia Pope, tosh, blind me, spider, and lead.
 

9 hours ago, illdoc said:

I said Don Juan! And I also had no idea that The Pied Piper was a poem.

Same.

9 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

OMG, that was amazing. I came to love Evan by the end, loud voice and all.

Something about Evan reminds me of Penn Gillette. Mostly their build, I think, and the long hair...and I guess Penn's kinda loud, too.

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I did settle on War and Peace before the Think music ran out. 🙌
During the 30 years I chose not to own a TV, I read some classics, including War and Peace
I also got it because I thought about the category carefully during the commercial, and decided the "EUROPEAN LITERATURE" part of  "19th CENTURY EUROPEAN LITERATURE" was a hint that it was not the work of an English author. 
Did anyone else interpret the category that way? Or was I just lucky to have thought that was the hint? Ken didn't seem to make that leap since his remarks about the incorrect guesses seemed to focus on the date.

I figured out the TS of Blimey = Blind in BRITSPEAK.
I knew the TS of Two and a Half Men, but didn't come up with it in time. 
Same with some others in OCCUPATIONAL TV.

 

 

21 hours ago, possibilities said:

I was really impressed by Evan in the anagrams category. I'm generally pretty good at them, but he was lightning fast and i didn't even get to process the clue before he answered, most of the time!

7 hours ago, Clanstarling said:

OMG, that was amazing. I came to love Evan by the end, loud voice and all.

Evan's delighted smiles were endearing, and Evan was seemingly a savant in some areas, but just not in quite enough categories to continue. 

Even though Stevie didn't know War & Peace, he seems to have potential to break the one-and-done champ streak. 

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44 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

During the 30 years I chose not to own a TV, I read some classics, including War and Peace
I also got it because I thought about the category carefully during the commercial, and decided the "EUROPEAN LITERATURE" part of  "19th CENTURY EUROPEAN LITERATURE" was a hint that it was not the work of an English author. 
Did anyone else interpret the category that way? Or was I just lucky to have thought that was the hint? Ken didn't seem to make that leap since his remarks about the incorrect guesses seemed to focus on the date.

I agree, European seemed to hint that it was not English. For some reason I tried (and failed) to think of something French and didn't consider other languages. And I was annoyed with Ken for saying that War and Peace was set in 1805 as if it didn't go on for years and years. But that is probably partly because my most recent experience of War and Peace is going to see Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of some year I absolutely know wasn't 1805. (I have read a significant chunk of War and Peace but gave up  on the translation coincidentally around the events of the Great Comet, and although I intended to carry on with the Maude translation have not made any further progress.)

Evan did his best but good for Stevie.

I got spider, prison, blind, Two and a Half Men, Olivia Pope, and Las Vegas.

 

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I apparently know fuck all about Walt Whitman, as the only one I got (and it was a guess) was Leaves of Grass.  I expected to also suck in social media, but I got everything except Telegram.  (If I'd been in the game, I might have refused to answer the Elon Musk clue even though I knew the correct response.  I refuse to call it anything other than Twitter; that asshole deadnames his own child, so I will keep on deadnaming his stupid site.)  And I surprised the hell out of myself by running sects.  I ran the rest, too, so it was a good first round despite that one disastrous category.

In DJ, artists was my terrible category; I blew the entire thing.  It was not my round in general -- I ran the vocabulary category, but missed two each in everything else.

And, for the second night in a row, I had no idea for FJ.

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Greetings from somewhere off the coast of the southern island of New Zealand!  We boarded our ship this afternoon, and set sail shortly afterwards.  If you go to Cornell's bird cam site and look at the Northern Royal Albatross cam, we went right by that place -- and yes, we saw the Albatross!  They're enormous!  We had a spectacular sunset as well.

And it's a good thing I had that going for me, because I had absolutely no clue for FJ for Tuesday's game.  I am batting zero for the week so far.

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14 hours ago, possibilities said:

All I could think of was Yankee Doodle Dandy. 

Let the laughter commence.

That actually flitted through my mind, too. But not a poem.

13 hours ago, Quickbeam said:

Hey, I said “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court” which earned me disdain from my spouse ….not a poem. He said Daniel Boone. 

And Daniel Boone is a poem? I hope you swatted that disdain right back over the net.

9 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Any time there's a clue about a "collection" by Whitman, it's Leaves of Grass. Especially for $200.

Yep. From another room, all I heard was “Walt Whitman” and “collection”, and I shouted “Leaves of Grass!” No more information necessary.

4 hours ago, Browncoat said:

 I am batting zero for the week so far.

Me too. But at least you’re having much more fun in the process!

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On 12/3/2024 at 11:37 AM, The Wild Sow said:

I thought the outfit was why he was "Pied."

True. But I was young and didn't know the meaning of that then. :)

On 12/3/2024 at 1:52 PM, dgpolo said:

I think of quaint as old fashioned.

Which is why I chose Rip Van Winkle (waking up after, what 20 or 30 years).

20 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

During the 30 years I chose not to own a TV, I read some classics, including 🙌War and Peace.

Evan's delighted smiles were endearing, and Evan was seemingly a savant in some areas, but just not in quite enough categories to continue.

Even though I was a lit major, I never took a semester of Russian lit. My reason at the time was that I was never cheerful enough to risk depressing myself. 😄

Their smiles were the reason I started to like them, and was disappointed when they lost.

18 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Any time there's a clue about a "collection" by Whitman, it's Leaves of Grass. Especially for $200.

As Leaves of Grass is the only one I know, it's my go to. If it's an individual poem, I'm lost at sea.

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Secondary definition for quaint: b : unusual or different in character or appearance : odd

From the poem:

And in did come the strangest figure!

His queer long coat from heel to head

Was half of yellow and half of red;

And later on in the poem:

(And here they noticed round his neck

A scarf of red and yellow stripe,

To match with his coat of the self-same cheque;

And at the scarf's end hung a pipe;

I don't know if I would even have known it from all that. Without a mention of Hamelin or rats I'd probably not guess.

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1 hour ago, The Wild Sow said:

I wondered if maybe 1805 was the year Jean Valjean stole that bread! Or maybe was paroled after the 19 years.  I knew the barricade part was the June Rebellion of 1832 but wasn't sure how long he might have lived as  M. Madeleine before meeting Fantine and Cosette.

Anyway, I guessed  Les Misérables.

There's a lot of logic to that answer.  Unlike mine, which was The Time Machine, because maybe 1805 was one of the years to which the protagonist went?  Yeah, my answer sucked.

It was not a good game for me.  I only ran Sects and "N" The City, and only got all but 1 clue in 4 other categories: Britspeak, Occupational TV (where I said 'the Skipper" instead of "the Professor"), Admissible Edifices and Italian Explorers (where I did consider Cabot but thought he was French).  I did get six stumpers/missed DDs: spider, blind me, prison, Two & A Half Men, Olivia Pope and Ansel Adams.  Yosemite + photography is always Ansel Adams.

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1 hour ago, proserpina65 said:

There's a lot of logic to that answer.  Unlike mine, which was The Time Machine, because maybe 1805 was one of the years to which the protagonist went?  Yeah, my answer sucked.

The Time Machine would at least fit the category - it was written in 1895, so just under the wire!  Unlike A Farewell to Arms! Which is A) by Hemingway, so American, not European! and B) set during World War I and published in 1929, so not 19th Century!

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December 4:

57% / 70% / 64%

Last night's 80% was just to get my hopes up…in J I missed one in A Bit of Everything, Fast Fashion, and Very Demure Very Mindful, three in TV Shows in Spanish and the Midwest, and four in World History. In DJ I missed one in "Ism"s, Sob Story, and Movie Creatures, two in Plains Rains & Autobahns, three in Dance, and since they only got to two and I got both of them, I'll say I ran Geology.

I got FJ! (Based on the clearly impeccable logic of "Chopin wrote a lot of nocturnes and he was Polish.") First one this week.

TSes: (J had 5; DJ had 5) I got For All Mankind, prairie dog, blushing bride, Jo March, and Crying in H Mart and Esmeralda (DD).

Dear J Players, When Ken says less than a minute, dispense with the jokey comments and PICK A CLUE! Thank you.

Ken's Yoda impression cracked me up. 
 

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16 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

I got FJ! (Based on the clearly impeccable logic of "Chopin wrote a lot of nocturnes and he was Polish.") First one this week.

Basically my thought process as well, I did do the math and the year seemed right for Poland so I went with it.

 

17 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Dear J Players, When Ken says less than a minute, dispense with the jokey comments and PICK A CLUE! Thank you.

And don't self congratulate until after the game please.

If you had flat out asked me for names of characters in Hunchback I could've named Quasimodo and Esmerelda, how I knew Frollo is a mystery to me. (I did answer correctly)

For the Anna Karenina one I said 'the one where she throws herself under the train' don't suppose that counts.

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57 minutes ago, dgpolo said:

If you had flat out asked me for names of characters in Hunchback I could've named Quasimodo and Esmerelda, how I knew Frollo is a mystery to me. (I did answer correctly)

He's one of those character names that I recognize is from Hunchback if I come across it, but would not come up with if you asked me to list characters from it.

4 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

Greetings from somewhere (I think) in the Southern Ocean, where it is rocking and rolling.  The waves are actually hitting my window!  It's a little crazy, and worse than the Drake Passage, I think.

I'm queasy just thinking about it. There probably isn't enough Dramamine in the world...

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8 hours ago, The Wild Sow said:

I wondered if maybe 1805 was the year Jean Valjean stole that bread! Or maybe was paroled after the 19 years.  I knew the barricade part was the June Rebellion of 1832 but wasn't sure how long he might have lived as  M. Madeleine before meeting Fantine and Cosette.

Anyway, I guessed  Les Misérables.

Me too!

2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

Well boo hiss. My first thought for FJ was Poland, then I thought, what about Austria?  Didn’t they have lots of composers? And Sound of Music, right? No, not right. 

Well, I immediately recognized they meant Chopin's nocturne, failed to do any sort of math, and then guessed Austria for who knows what reason.

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I'm surprised no one even guessed a March sister for the Jo clue.

I missed three in history, but otherwise kicked ass in the first round -- I got all but Zara in fashion and ran the rest.

In DJ, though, I only ran isms and the highly abbreviated geology category.  I got all but Olympia in plains, but  missed three each in movies and stories and two in dance.

Not only did I finally get a FJ this week, it was an instaget.  I didn't think anything about a composer, just a country whose national radio would go silent in 1939 -- the Nazi invasion of Poland came immediately to mind.

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8 hours ago, ams1001 said:

Dear J Players, When Ken says less than a minute, dispense with the jokey comments and PICK A CLUE! Thank you.

Ken's Yoda impression cracked me up. 

Ken seemed a little annoyed with all the fooling around. I think he was about 10 seconds away from threatening to turn this car around, right now. And I smiled at the Yoda voice as well.

Ken is a strict dad, but he’s also a fun dad.

7 hours ago, Browncoat said:

Greetings from somewhere (I think) in the Southern Ocean, where it is rocking and rolling.  The waves are actually hitting my window!  It's a little crazy, and worse than the Drake Passage, I think.

I am loving Jeopardy: Travel Edition.

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16 hours ago, Bastet said:

I'm surprised no one even guessed a March sister for the Jo clue.

Odds of 1 in 4 might not be worth it. But maybe if you don't know about Jo selling her hair you also can't even name one March sister.

My mother and I were discussing War & Peace and 1805 before I had watched Wednesday's episode and she brought up Nelson apropos of what I thought was nothing. When I saw Wednesday's 1805 clue about Thomas ("Kiss Me") Hardy suddenly it all came clear.

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I got Poland but in the weirdest way possible. Because my husband’s father spoke Polish and his grandfather was born there, I was studying Polish history because we were going to go there. So I knew 1939=Poland. But then we took DNA tests and found out my husband isn’t Polish and his father wasn’t his bio-Dad. So…..one of those life side trips that bore the strangest possible fruit. 

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According to thejeopardyfan, "The final song played before shutdown was Chopin’s “Nocturne in C-sharp minor, Op. posth.”; the same song was played on the resumption of broadcasting after the war in 1945. Władysław Szpilman, the pianist who played both nocturnes live, was the subject of the 2002 movie The Pianist."

Video of Szpilman playing this nocturne in 1997.

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December 5:

70% / 63% / 67%

Meh game…In J I missed one in Eponyms, 4-Word Phrases, and On the Movie Map, and two in The Middle Ages, Play Things, and Also in the Toolbox. In DJ I ran Monterey Bay Aquarium, missed one in Crossword Clues O, two in Sociology, Entertainment Hyphenates, and Nonfiction, and four in Geographic Name Changes.

For FJ, my first thought was Play-Doh but then I thought the plural "they've" didn't make sense for that and tried to think of something else that has a distinct scent. Maybe because I was already in the realm of toys, I got to Crayola crayons in plenty of time.

TSes: (J had 4 + the DD; DJ had 2 + 1 DD) I got adding insult to injury, Frost/Nixon (DD), and ohana (thank you, Lilo & Stitch).
 

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9 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

For FJ, my first thought was Play-Doh but then I thought the plural "they've" didn't make sense for that and tried to think of something else that has a distinct scent.

I said Chef-Boy-Ar-Dee - - Sorry, family story coming! When I was small my mom gave us (there were 5 of us at that time, soon to be 6) some canned ChefBoyRDee ravioli for dinner one night. After tasting it I refused to eat it followed by my siblings. My mom, at that time was a 'You'll sit there 'til you eat it' kind of mom. After some time she tasted it and said we didn't have to eat it. I had told her 'It tastes like Play-Doh!' . So this is why I laughed hysterically at the answer, apparently my taste buds and sense of smell were more correct than I thought!

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Since I'll be watching football, I checked the archive.

Adding insult to injury being a TS blew me away.  And they shouldn't have given credit for "going back to square one" in that same category, since it specified four-word phrases.

I ran phrases, tools, and plays, but missed two each in the rest of the first round (in eponyms, I might have recognized Bibb lettuce from a picture, but I'm not confident enough in that to give myself credit for it).

I kicked ass in DJ, running everything other than hyphenates, in which I missed two.  (In aquarium, half of them I didn't need to see the picture and the other half I feel comfortable saying I'd have known the correct response had I been able to so gave myself credit.)

I was back to having absolutely no idea for FJ, though.

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On 12/4/2024 at 4:17 AM, Browncoat said:

Greetings from somewhere off the coast of the southern island of New Zealand!  We boarded our ship this afternoon, and set sail shortly afterwards.  If you go to Cornell's bird cam site and look at the Northern Royal Albatross cam, we went right by that place -- and yes, we saw the Albatross!  They're enormous!  We had a spectacular sunset as well.

We had an albatross clue tonight (Thursday.) I thought of you immediately. Coincidence!

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I'm going to miss Stevie. I had laughed immoderately at his Louvre story yesterday for some reason.

2 hours ago, Bastet said:

Adding insult to injury being a TS blew me away. 

My brain started with insult but I couldn't come up with the first word to make a 4 word phrase.

I felt a bit bad for Dave knowing Nixon and not getting it because they wanted the name of the play. But it didn’t make a real difference to the outcome.

I got chisel but would never have thought of hacksaw. I second-guessed myself on The Orchid Thief because the word Orchid had been mentioned in the clue.

 

 

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I got hacksaw, although I cannot imagine the strength it would take to saw through a car with one.

I said Play-Doh for FJ— a desperation guess because, like @ams1001, I realized it didn’t quite work when the clue called for a plural response. But it was the only thing I could think of. Crayons would never occur to me because I never thought of them as having such a distinctive smell. I certainly never thought they smelled like soap, although in retrospect I guess I can understand the clay part.

5 hours ago, dgpolo said:

My mom, at that time was a 'You'll sit there 'til you eat it' kind of mom.

Oh! I had one of those, too. I have memories of sitting at the table for literally hours, because she was as stubborn as I was. (Or vise versa.) Eventually, she would usually relent with “just take one bite and you can go”. But to this day, there are a number of foods that I simply will not eat, even though my adult taste buds may have a different opinion, because the trauma is so ingrained. I would not recommend this as a way to get kids to try different foods.

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8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I said Play-Doh for FJ— a desperation guess because, like @ams1001, I realized it didn’t quite work when the clue called for a plural response. But it was the only thing I could think of. Crayons would never occur to me because I never thought of them as having such a distinctive smell. I certainly never thought they smelled like soap, although in retrospect I guess I can understand the clay part.

I actually have a box of four Crayola crayons on my table (they came with a Christmas card that unfolds with a coloring page on the back), though I was not thinking about them during the game (I was not at the table, either). So I just sniffed them...I don't get soap. I get the clay, and maybe a hint of a "leather-like" scent if I squint. I can't say they're something that evokes a memorable scent when I think about them, though, like Play-Doh does (or that smells distinctly different from any other crayons I've used).

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On 12/4/2024 at 8:45 PM, Browncoat said:

I did the math, and guessed correctly for FJ.  Not gonna lie, it was a guess.

I did the math, got 1939, knew WW2 started then so it had to be Poland.

On 12/5/2024 at 12:25 AM, Bastet said:

I'm surprised no one even guessed a March sister for the Jo clue.

I said Amy, thinking she was vain enough to have cried over cutting off her hair, but at least I knew the names of the March sisters.

 

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Last night's game was okay for me/  Ran Eponyms, The Middle Ages, On The Movie Map and Monterey Bay Aquarium.  Got all but one clue correct in 4-Word Phrases, Play Things, Nonfiction, Geographic Name Changes and Crossword Clues "O".  Only got three stumpers/missed DDs (Bosworth Field, Frost/Nixon and The Orchid Thief) but there weren't that many anyway.

Had no clue for FJ.  But what was up with Ken's weird pronunciation of "crayons"?

I liked Stevie, so I'll miss him, but Dave seems okay.

15 hours ago, Bastet said:

Adding insult to injury being a TS blew me away.

Something about the phrasing of that clue confused me.  Not sure what.  So I'll give them a pass on it, given that it was the first clue in the category.

On 12/4/2024 at 8:45 PM, Browncoat said:

I did the math, and guessed correctly for FJ.  Not gonna lie, it was a guess.

Greetings from somewhere (I think) in the Southern Ocean, where it is rocking and rolling.  The waves are actually hitting my window!  It's a little crazy, and worse than the Drake Passage, I think.

Are you on the Tasman Sea? 😁

13 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

My brain started with insult but I couldn't come up with the first word to make a 4 word phrase.

I started with rubbing salt into the wound and never got to adding insult to injury.  I would have assumed that my answer wouldn't have been correct because it's too many words, but . . .

10 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I got hacksaw, although I cannot imagine the strength it would take to saw through a car with one.

Or the time.

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  • I have a lot of Crayola crayons in a cupboard in my kitchen, purchased since my oldest grandson (now “2¾!”) has been able to hold a crayon and make a mark. 
    I also have an annoyingly keen sense of smell. 
    So I just gave them a sniff, and they do indeed smell like “slightly earthy soap with pungent, leather-like clay undertones,” but yesterday evening I was too tired after babysitting the younger one (who was home from daycare with croup) to parse the FJ clue.

    But I'd be willing to testify in court that I'm sure Crayola crayons have always smelled like that.

    Ken's "crayon" pronunciation literally made me cringe, although it wasn't the worst version I've heard. Yes. I know it's geographic. We could take this to the the Small Talk thread if anyone's interested in debating the merits of various pronunciations of "crayon," but I don't think it warrants more space here.
    YMMV.

    Likewise, here's a page with a lot of good references regarding the ingredients of Crayola crayons, but the HTML and CSS is not ADA compliant, IMO, so you might want to copy and paste the text into Word or something to read it: designlife-cycle.com/crayons
     
  • I did get the previous FJ of Poland from the date math and my personal interest in that place and time period, in spite of my ignorance of the musical reference.
     
  • A few of my recent TSs were: Kongo, Jo, Ohana, insult to injury, Albatross.
    Like our intrepid contestants, a few more I "knew" but could not shout out in time.
     
  • Pre-empting the question beginning with “Is it just me, or…,”: 
    j-archive.com seems to be currently having trouble loading.
     
  • Here's a bit about the new champ, David Bond, who lives so close to my current address that I've likely passed him in a grocery aisle
    tvregular.com/2024/12/05/david-bond-from-jeopardy-is-a-retired-grant-writer-clean-energy-advocate/

    He's "just" 62. I thought he was at least my age of 71 and that my memory issues with Jeopardy! might be more serious than I thought, so this knowledge is a relief.
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This is what Andy at The Jeopardy! Fan had to say about the Crayola clue:
 

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This is essentially a current events Final Jeopardy, with this having made minor news earlier in the summer. On July 2 2024, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office issued a trademark to Crayola crayons, in large part due to the unique scent of those crayons. They were described in the documents as having the scent described in today’s Final Jeopardy clue.

 

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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

I didn’t notice anything unusual about Ken’s pronunciation of “crayons”. Maybe I’m in the same geographic crayon belt. 

For approximately 3 seconds I truthfully wondered what obscure Crayola product Ken was referring to because it sounded more like "crans" to me even though I expected crayon (CRAY on). 

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1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

Crayola got a trademark in 2024?? I’m guessing that was a renewal? Otherwise, someone was really late to the post office with the application.

Google says the 2024 trademark was for the smell.

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Yes, the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) granted Crayola a trademark for the smell of its crayons on July 2, 2024: 

The trademark registration is for a sensory mark that describes the scent of Crayola crayons as "slightly earthy soap with pungent, leather-like clay undertones". The registration process took nearly six years and was more similar to a patent process than a typical trademark application. Crayola had to provide scientific evidence and mail a specimen of the crayons to the USPTO so that an examining attorney could smell them. 

Crayola first filed for the trademark in 2018, but the application was initially denied. Crayola won on appeal after proving the distinctiveness of the scent. 

The trademark protects the aroma that many consumers associate with Crayola crayons and childhood memories. Crayola CEO Pete Ruggiero believes that the smell of Crayola crayons has a powerful connection to childhood and could be used in stores to enhance customer experiences. 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, SomeTameGazelle said:

For approximately 3 seconds I truthfully wondered what obscure Crayola product Ken was referring to because it sounded more like "crans" to me even though I expected crayon (CRAY on). 

That ("cran") is how I have always pronounced the word "crayon." I thought everybody pronounced it that way.

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December 6:

67% / 67% / 67%

Not a great game, but a consistent game...In J I missed one in Scientific Discoveries, Cash Considerations, and Player to Be Named, two in Battles and Houston, and three in "Barrel" of Fun. In DJ I missed one in Lakes and DNC State Roll Call Songs, and two in Literary Landmarks, In the Kitchen, Gendered Language, and "A" for Art.

FJ was an instaget. And I got all the Daily Doubles. :)

TSes: (J had 1; DJ had 6) I got rodeo and boyfriend.
 

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