S18.E01: Exes and OCs

[Palimelon]

"Who is this random weirdo and why is she following us around the party?"

[Cosmocrush]

On 7/11/2024 at 6:27 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Eviction on OC lord baby Jesus lol 

Not even the first one either! 

[Sweet-tea]

On 7/11/2024 at 8:28 PM, ZettaK said:

Shannon dissolved her fillers, and she is on Ozempic, so she is slimmer. She had some treatments/plastic surgery too. Her hair length is OK (not too long- the bad extensions are gone), but it's too light in some scenes (from the season promos).

Unfortunately, Gina has long, platinum hair again from the attractive, shorter bob. 

Emily's face is offerfilled. 

Heather has long, very dark hair which is aging. 

All of them have very long hair.

It doesn’t look like Shannon’s lip fillers were dissolved to me, especially her upper lip.  I was distracted by it. I noticed it the most in the ending scene with Alexis. She does look thin, as do all of them. She also looks like she had another facelift. 

I don’t understand the house Terry and Heather’s house situation. They spent so much time and money a few seasons ago building their McMansion, only to sell it not long after. And now they are renovating another huge house. What is it with these housewives constantly moving? Is no house good enough? 

Shannon is in denial. The two drink thing is infamous in AA. “Yes officer, I just had two drinks.” 

I’m not sure I understand why Gina and the boyfriend are separating. What exactly is his ex-wife doing that is causing her angst? 

Edited July 14 by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 7/11/2024 at 9:43 PM, bosawks said:

Nothing like talking about your daughter on tv who doesn't wish to engage with you to spur forgiveness.

Rapprochement thy name is Tamra.

And the other daughter looked like she had no use for it. She also struck me as a 40 year-old in an 18 year-old’s body, her demeanor, not her looks. 

On 7/11/2024 at 6:28 PM, qtpye said:

Same here.

 

 

On 7/11/2024 at 3:07 PM, dancingdreamer said:

I have a soft spot for Shannon,  I can't  help it. I love her daughters. 

Mine disappeared when she crashed her car into someone’s house while drunk with her poor dog in the car—and then still refused to admit she has a drinking problem. 

Edited July 14 by Sweet-tea

[Sweet-tea]

On 7/12/2024 at 12:57 AM, UsernameFatigue said:

Johnny J really traded down with Jesus Jugs. Shannon is so much prettier. 

I think Alexis is prettier, although I didn’t like her hairstyle this episode. I prefer some waves in her hair to the stick straight look. 

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I think that Alexis was shocked that Shannon cared more about the money than the man. She wanted to fight over Johnny J (gross) and Shannon just did not care about that.

I don’t think it was just about the money. I believe Shannon cares very much that John is with Alexis and is mighty ticked off about it. 

Edited July 14 by Sweet-tea

[Keywestclubkid]

52 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

 

I don’t understand the house Terry and Heather’s house situation. They spent so much time and money a few seasons ago building their McMansion, only to sell it not long after. And now they are renovating another huge house. What is it with these housewives constantly moving? Is no house good enough? 

 

Money .. for what they put into it they get a profit at sale .. real estate can and does make some people A shit ton of money it’s always a great investment .. 

[JMO]

I started watching RHOC from its debut, out of curiosity about how other people live their lives.  Back at the beginning, it was actually about that---just every day life, but different from mine.  Now it's about an obsession with wealth and appearances that I find completely unrelatable and far less interesting, replete with contrived, usually mean-spirited, storylines and far too much reimbursement for these women to come to their senses and walk away.

Having gotten that off my chest, I do still see some redeeming qualities in most of these women.  Most.

A side note---not all sentencing is intended as punishment.  Community service is actually intended as an attempt at restoration and rehabilitation, in the form of giving back something to the community that was harmed, and/or finding self-worth in serving others.  Shannon can do the latter with her church.    

 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

55 minutes ago, JMO said:

I started watching RHOC from its debut, out of curiosity about how other people live their lives.  Back at the beginning, it was actually about that---just every day life, but different from mine.  Now it's about an obsession with wealth and appearances that I find completely unrelatable and far less interesting, replete with contrived, usually mean-spirited, storylines and far too much reimbursement for these women to come to their senses and walk away.

Having gotten that off my chest, I do still see some redeeming qualities in most of these women.  Most.

A side note---not all sentencing is intended as punishment.  Community service is actually intended as an attempt at restoration and rehabilitation, in the form of giving back something to the community that was harmed, and/or finding self-worth in serving others.  Shannon can do the latter with her church.    

 

 

I hate Shannon argued that because she was a “celebrity” they were trying to make an example of her and that what she got was to severe .. it literally was a slap on the wrist .. it’s infuriating 

[LakeGal]

I believe that Terry and Heather got a large amount of money from the estate of Terry's brother Kevin.  He was lead singer of Quiet Riot.  I have always heard that was part of where they got their money.  Heather & Terry really do love money.  It is how they portray themselves as so super rich.   

[Pi237]

On 7/11/2024 at 9:14 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

This house has so much history let’s gut it.. ugh 

“Take this whole walkway and move it to that side”

Really? That’s changing things just to say you changed things. 

Meanwhile, in my tax bracket, “take this garbage can and move it to that side.” 

[maggiemae]

The house they are renovating is  the Dino De Laurentis estate.

Odd she does not admit that.

I think Heather is a fabulous building or remodeling and decorator person. Significant money has been made and she loves it. 

I've lived in my condo since 1989. My sister has moved around the area so many times I have lost count.

I say go for it Heather...it is profitable and you love it and are great at it. 

And remember they have other homes too.

 

 

 

[Mstk3000]

6 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Money .. for what they put into it they get a profit at sale .. real estate can and does make some people A shit ton of money it’s always a great investment .. 

Don’t you remember that charmer Terry saying that the offer they received wasn’t just “F you money” but “F everyone you ever met money”?  Lovely values there.

[EtheltoTillie]

On 7/11/2024 at 9:35 PM, Pi237 said:

Did Gina get her face done? Why does she look so different?

She looked like she took Ozempic. 

[ZettaK]

16 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I think she cares about the John/Alexis hookup. She considered John her "husband" and called him that at the reunion. She also referred to having a blended family with John. The more Alexis throws this in her face the crazier Shannon will become. And Andy Cohen is salivating waiting for the cat fight. 

Shannon didn't want to give her the satisfaction and fight with her about John in the season premiere. I'm sure Alexis won't let go of the subject.

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

She looked like she took Ozempic. 

It's obvious because she lost weight, as well.

[ZettaK]

9 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

It doesn’t look like Shannon’s lip fillers were dissolved to me, especially her upper lip.  I was distracted by it. I noticed it the most in the ending scene with Alexis. She does look thin, as do all of them. She also looks like she had another facelift. 

I don’t understand the house Terry and Heather’s house situation. They spent so much time and money a few seasons ago building their McMansion, only to sell it not long after. And now they are renovating another huge house. What is it with these housewives constantly moving? Is no house good enough? 

Shannon is in denial. The two drink thing is infamous in AA. “Yes officer, I just had two drinks.” 

I’m not sure I understand why Gina and the boyfriend are separating. What exactly is his ex-wife doing that is causing her angst? 

Shannon dissolved her facial fillers, not her lip fillers. And her face looks better (not so puffy).

It's not a matter of a house not being good enough. It's a matter of profiting from flipping houses. And it is a matter of greed. The Dubrows want to be part of some elite (new money?), and the millions from real estate deals can help them. They own houses in Beverly Hills and Century City now, and they move in different circles.

Edited July 15 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

16 hours ago, Wicked said:

Didn't Alexis and Jim rent though? I feel like this was something that annoyed Heather along with Alexis wearing fake diamonds

Jim and Alexis owned (well, owned is relative because they were in foreclosure) a house at an exclusive, gated community in Newport Beach where Nicholas Cage owned a house when they joined the show. They were supposedly renting that house out which was on the name of an LLC company until it sold on a short sale. It was at the time of the financial crisis and the real estate market collapse. They were renting a house in Newport Coast, in the same community Heather and Shannon lived when they were filming their first season. They later rented in Dana Point (east of Newport Beach and Laguna Beach) when Heather was making her comments. They eventually had more money/better credit rating to buy a house in San Juan Capistrano, and one in Dana Point (a month before Jim filed for divorce). He kept the latter house. 

Edited July 15 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

2 hours ago, maggiemae said:

The house they are renovating is  the Dino De Laurentis estate.

Odd she does not admit that.

I think Heather is a fabulous building or remodeling and decorator person. Significant money has been made and she loves it. 

I've lived in my condo since 1989. My sister has moved around the area so many times I have lost count.

I say go for it Heather...it is profitable and you love it and are great at it. 

And remember they have other homes too.

 

 

 

I think Heather wanted to mention the famous actors they lived before at the house, and not Dino De Laurentis who was "only" a producer, although a famous and very successful one. 

[EtheltoTillie]

Where was Heather filming that party?  Do they still have a house in the OC in addition to the Los Angeles homes?  
 

I think this is shaping up to be one of the best seasons of OC in years.
 

I recommend watching Shannon on WWHL from the same night. She’s so peeved about Alexis, but Andy gleefully said he’s so happy to have her back. He only cares about TV gold. Shannon looked peeved. Then co-guest Kate Upton said she couldn’t understand by anyone would date John, then she realized she was putting her foot in her mouth with Shannon so she tried to cover up. Shannon looked good. 

[ZettaK]

9 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Where was Heather filming that party?  Do they still have a house in the OC in addition to the Los Angeles homes?  
 

I think this is shaping up to be one of the best seasons of OC in years.
 

I recommend watching Shannon on WWHL from the same night. She’s so peeved about Alexis, but Andy gleefully said he’s so happy to have her back. He only cares about TV gold. Shannon looked peeved. Then co-guest Kate Upton said she couldn’t understand by anyone would date John, then she realized she was putting her foot in her mouth with Shannon so she tried to cover up. Shannon looked good. 

Heather's party was at the Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach where she and Terry were (temporarily) staying, as well. She mentioned the younger kids were enrolled at school in Los Angeles. 

I watched WWHL with Shannon. Andy Cohen couldn't contain himself about Alexis returning. I'm not sure if he really likes Alexis, or he loves the drama she brought. Probably the latter. 

Edited July 15 by ZettaK

[EtheltoTillie]

Thanks now that you mention it I remember her saying something about giving a party at the Bay Club.

[Baltimore Betty]

15 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Really? That’s changing things just to say you changed things. 

Plus having that dog and pony show of having all your contractor people show up for the camera, ugh.

I am getting new counter tops in my kitchen, I told the guy to take the old ones out and put in the new ones...it was my Heather move, I felt the power. LOL.

Did I mention my counter tops are made of 24kt gold, no? Again, a power move just like Heather, lol.

[AnnMarie17]

15 hours ago, Pi237 said:

“Take this whole walkway and move it to that side”

Really? That’s changing things just to say you changed things. 

Meanwhile, in my tax bracket, “take this garbage can and move it to that side.” 

Thanks goodness garbage cans come on wheels or even THAT would be out of my tax bracket. 😉

[Starlight925]

Pretentious Heather, making sure to ask Terry if he wants a helipad, only to sigh at the camera.  

Ugh, we're so rich, it's yet one more exhausting decision we have to make.  Like all the different ice cube shapes we had to spend our time choosing from, or where to put the Champs button, or where to install the pizza oven, as Heather pointed out that she eats pizza ONCE a year, but she "has" to have a pizza oven.

Dictionary:  Pretentious:  See Heather Dubrow.

[Palimelon]

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Did I mention my counter tops are made of 24kt gold, no? Again, a power move just like Heather, lol.

Heather snickers at you as hers are top grade platinum. 24kt gold is for the peasants now.

Edited July 15 by Palimelon

[Natalie68]

21 hours ago, JMO said:

I started watching RHOC from its debut, out of curiosity about how other people live their lives.  Back at the beginning, it was actually about that---just every day life, but different from mine.  Now it's about an obsession with wealth and appearances that I find completely unrelatable and far less interesting, replete with contrived, usually mean-spirited, storylines and far too much reimbursement for these women to come to their senses and walk away.

Having gotten that off my chest, I do still see some redeeming qualities in most of these women.  Most.

A side note---not all sentencing is intended as punishment.  Community service is actually intended as an attempt at restoration and rehabilitation, in the form of giving back something to the community that was harmed, and/or finding self-worth in serving others.  Shannon can do the latter with her church.    

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My personal opinion is if you get a DUI, you need to be punished.  Sure, she also needs rehab but she needs to be punished like anyone else who gets one.  She is giving back to her church, not the community

Edited July 15 by Natalie68

[lasu]

4 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

She is giving back to her church, not the community

Her church would have already had to be approved for someone to do community service. When I got a DUI nearly 30 years ago, I did my community service at the Alzheimers Association, and I can assure you, it was far cushier than anything Shannon is doing. The women who worked there were so freakin' kind to me. They literally baked me cookies and mini quiches, and moved a TV into the room I was working in so I could watch soap operas while I stuffed envelopes. Yes, they knew why I was there, and they did scold me for it, but I would be a liar if I said anything about those 40 hours was a "punishment." However, that time and their kindness humbled me and did more to put me on the right track than any of the fines I had to pay or the pointless alcohol classes that were far more of a punishment.

Sometimes reform is a far better goal for society as a whole than retribution ever will be. 

[Marley]

Shannon fucked up but I hate when they all gang up on someone.

Alexis is so lame. She’s really trying to hype John up like girl everyone knows he’s a huge loser.

Tamra’s daughter obviously doesn’t wanna talk about anything on camera it’s awkward to watch.

[snarts]

Every time Tamra drags her just turned eighteen child in front of the camera to talk about their sister, she's showing everyone why Sidney doesn't speak to her. She can't even honor her one request to stop publicly talking about her. Tamra will sell anyone out for a storyline.  It's sad.

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, Marley said:

Tamra’s daughter obviously doesn’t wanna talk about anything on camera it’s awkward to watch.

I wondered why her daughter decided to film at all, she was just giving bitch face and bitch vibes and clearly wasn't going to talk about her father or sister...how did Tamara think that was going to go? The daughter was trying to be all edgy and cool then gets a basic moon tattoo, lol.

18 hours ago, Palimelon said:

Heather snickers at you as hers are top grade platinum. 24kt gold is for the peasants now.

I am so embarrassed now, I better tell my contractors that the 24kt gold helipad is out too.

 

[Keywestclubkid]

ok i know its fun to snark on how out of touch Heather and Terry are but lets be honest here IF we had that money we would be doing the same thing ... it sounds ridiculous and to us it is but these are the stupid things they think about because other out of touch rich people think about this stuff and if the house doesn't have this crap they wont buy when Heather and Terry sell this when its done ...

and wasn't this the whole premise  of the show .. how those behind the gates live with their wealth? this is just an extreme version of that .. shes doing what we wanted those housewives to do .. spend ridiculous amounts of money on crap we will never get to.. she is the embodiment of what the housewives should have and what they were supposed to be vapid women with lots of money spending like no tomorrow and living that fab life.. you cant fault her for that

 

id rather watch this then a manufactured fight for the 100000th time about stupid shit

Edited July 16 by Keywestclubkid

[RoseAllDay]

On 7/13/2024 at 9:39 AM, Chatty Cake said:

I thought Tamra and Simon were on better terms but I guess not. He was fine letting his kids film when he was on the show but kept Sophia off all this time.  Kind of petty. 
 

He is a petty man. I think Tamra showed sympathy after his cancer diagnosis, but really nothing more. I think he was in a relationship, but given IDGAF, I haven’t kept up. I’m assuming he’s still around.

He was awful. No wonder Tamra went wild after the divorce, sort of like Alexis.

[RoseAllDay]

On 7/14/2024 at 10:02 PM, maggiemae said:

The house they are renovating is  the Dino De Laurentis estate.

Odd she does not admit that.

I think Heather is a fabulous building or remodeling and decorator person. Significant money has been made and she loves it. 

I've lived in my condo since 1989. My sister has moved around the area so many times I have lost count.

I say go for it Heather...it is profitable and you love it and are great at it. 

And remember they have other homes too.

 

 

 

So is this the tie-in to Million Dollar Listing LA? That sounds like a Josh Flagg property, although they’ve been seen with Josh and Heather Altman.

I guess moving isn’t such a pain in the ass if you have other people do it for you.  My issue with Heather has always been the false modesty and humblebragging about all the stuff she has. That grates.

Terry’s not much better.

[Palimelon]

And she'd probably also explain to you what humblebragging means.

[snarts]

Can't believe I'm about to defend Simon Barney but here goes...

If I were going through a contentious divorce with minor children and my soon-to-be ex was filming a TV show, I wouldn't want the kids on it. Divorce is hard enough let alone having a camera in their faces and having those scenes air publicly.

Often, we criticize people for exploiting their kids for fame. Here's a situation where he protected them. Heck, maybe he asked and they didn't want to be on show?

it was 2010, the kids were so young (Sidney 10, Spencer 9, Sophia 5) so I just can't criticize him for shielding them from the public eye. It's not like he could count on their mom to do that...

Edited July 16 by snarts

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, snarts said:

Can't believe I'm about to defend Simon Barney but here goes...

If I were going through a contentious divorce with minor children and my soon-to-be ex was filming a TV show, I wouldn't want the kids on it. Divorce is hard enough let alone having a camera in their faces and having those scenes air publicly.

Often, we criticize people for exploiting their kids for fame. Here's a situation where he protected them from public. Heck, maybe he asked and they didn't want to be on show? it was 2010, the kids were so young (Sidney 10, Spencer 9, Sophia 5). I just can't criticize him for shielding them from the public eye. 

this part .. kids dont need to be part of the show honestly .. it comes across as them trying to make their kids happen and they just get torn apart by adults anyway .. I would never have a kid do one of these shows and opening them up to that

[RealHousewife]

I listened to Two Ts (don’t judge!), and they asked Alexis and Alexia what’s worse, lying about cancer or getting a DUI. Both answered lying about cancer. What Brooks did was outrageous. I don’t know anyone who lies about cancer, but I’ve known good people who’ve driven drunk. So while I see their side (especially given my family history with the c word), the sick cancer scheme didn’t and wouldn’t have killed anyone. Shannon easily could have. I don’t like to see a pile-on and don’t believe in kicking a friend when they’re down, but I really hate how casual and dismissive people can be of DUI. Heck, some people almost think it’s weirder that some of us don’t drink at all. Our culture is weird.

[Pi237]

4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

 

id rather watch this then a manufactured fight for the 100000th time about stupid shit

100%!  I Love the house porn.  I can’t afford to get new siding. So, it’s fun to watch what they do with their money. Unfortunately, I usually hate their choices. That’s probably for the reason you bring up-they’re remodeling to sell. I wonder all the time what kind of house and features I’d have if I could afford whatever I wanted. I’m sure the rich folks would hate my house, too. But yes, even as I roll my eyes at their ostentatious designs, I love to see how ‘the other half’ live.

I agree about the kids. I’d Never let an ex put my kids in front of a camera. People are mean! Just look at us on this board! lol. But it’s even worse for kids because they live in the now. They don’t think about how something they do today can affect their future lives. Yes, They’re social media savvy, but one mistake lives online forever. It’s not worth it.  

[Feline Goddess]

My honorary daughter had to do community service and she volunteered with an animal rescue group.  Basically she played with puppies at the adoption event. Not every assignment is equivalent to working on a chain gang. 

Shannon said she enjoyed volunteering at the church's thrift store and has continued to do it after her probation requirement was completed. So points for that - because she could've had the attitude, 'see ya, I'm done & outta here'. Like most people.  

Why does Alexis think anyone would be jealous of her being with John Jansen? They've all met him. LOL Same with Shannon's other sloppy seconds, David Beador. Shannon is better off without either of those losers. 

 

 

Edited July 16 by Feline Goddess

[qtpye]

On 7/14/2024 at 10:02 PM, maggiemae said:

The house they are renovating is  the Dino De Laurentis estate.

Odd she does not admit that.

I think Heather is a fabulous building or remodeling and decorator person. Significant money has been made and she loves it. 

I've lived in my condo since 1989. My sister has moved around the area so many times I have lost count.

I say go for it Heather...it is profitable and you love it and are great at it. 

And remember they have other homes too.

 

 

 

 

On 7/14/2024 at 9:49 PM, Pi237 said:

“Take this whole walkway and move it to that side”

Really? That’s changing things just to say you changed things. 

Meanwhile, in my tax bracket, “take this garbage can and move it to that side.” 

 

On 7/14/2024 at 3:42 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Money .. for what they put into it they get a profit at sale .. real estate can and does make some people A shit ton of money it’s always a great investment .. 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 12:46 AM, ZettaK said:

I think Heather wanted to mention the famous actors they lived before at the house, and not Dino De Laurentis who was "only" a producer, although a famous and very successful one. 

Terry and Heather seem like high-end house flippers and that is probably what their HGTV spin off would be called.

I imagine all the care they put into the house is bragging about their wealth and making sure the house will sell.

De Laurentis was a legendary producer but there was a giant scandal that involved Giada( from the Food Network) being sexually abused by her father for many years.  I think Giada is Dino's granddaughter.

[Palimelon]

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high-end house flippers

Champs, contractors, and commissions, oh my...

[ZettaK]

I think Tamra's daughter is like a lot of teenagers. Too cool for everything, including their mother. And she didn't want to discuss family on tv, although they are estranged. 

16 hours ago, qtpye said:

De Laurentis was a legendary producer but there was a giant scandal that involved Giada( from the Food Network) being sexually abused by her father for many years.  I think Giada is Dino's granddaughter.

Giada de Laurentis is Dino's granddaughter.

[ZettaK]

23 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

So is this the tie-in to Million Dollar Listing LA? That sounds like a Josh Flagg property, although they’ve been seen with Josh and Heather Altman.

I guess moving isn’t such a pain in the ass if you have other people do it for you.  My issue with Heather has always been the false modesty and humblebragging about all the stuff she has. That grates.

Terry’s not much better.

The Dino de Laurentis house purchase will be shown on Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles which started airing last week. It seems the Altmans will be the agents. The second episode is on tonight.

22 hours ago, snarts said:

Can't believe I'm about to defend Simon Barney but here goes...

If I were going through a contentious divorce with minor children and my soon-to-be ex was filming a TV show, I wouldn't want the kids on it. Divorce is hard enough let alone having a camera in their faces and having those scenes air publicly.

Often, we criticize people for exploiting their kids for fame. Here's a situation where he protected them. Heck, maybe he asked and they didn't want to be on show?

it was 2010, the kids were so young (Sidney 10, Spencer 9, Sophia 5) so I just can't criticize him for shielding them from the public eye. It's not like he could count on their mom to do that...

Simon Barney didn't have a problem exploiting his kids when HE was part of the show. He is a hypocrite, and it was retaliatory.

Edited July 17 by ZettaK

[Natalie68]

On 7/16/2024 at 6:50 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

this part .. kids dont need to be part of the show honestly .. it comes across as them trying to make their kids happen and they just get torn apart by adults anyway .. I would never have a kid do one of these shows and opening them up to that

I HATE kids on the show.  The theme of the show is too adult, the adults act like fools, let's give the kids a normal childhood.

[bravofan27]

I think it's fun to see the kids on the show when it's just them being kids. But when they try to use the show to make their kids famous or have exposure, that's icky. It's not dance moms. Like Emily trying to make Annabelle happen. But it's kind of hard to bond with the housewives if you don't see them interact with their kids. When Tamra and Simon were together, their kids weren't really on that much, and Simon really did most of the work with the kids. I think I saw Tamra take the kids to visit Simon at his work once, but it's mostly been her with Ryan. In any case, I don't think Tamra's issues with Simon are about the kids being on camera. I think it's more about him wanting to control her and the kids.

[EtheltoTillie]

Thanks for the reminder the MDL LA is back.  I'm really not getting the promos for the Bravo shows for some reason.

As for Tamra's daughter, she's probably on the show to get paid now that she is 18, and she doesn't care to put on a nice face. 

[Natalie68]

On 7/13/2024 at 9:49 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

I’m sorry we have all watched this show she has been drunk and not just tipsy but drunk DRUNK and out of it  from her first season and it was mentioned waaaaaaay back then in passing .. she has had someone atleast every season make a comment about the drinking and wishing she would watch it . seriously.. this was her first “accident” being caught this wasn’t her first accident..  I mean to have the forethought in that state to pretend to “walk the dog” when the cops found her she’s done this previously ..

 

she’s an alcoholic. I will die on this hill 

I started watching a couple of eps from each of her seasons on show.  Yes, the cast have been commenting on her drinking since she started.  Calling her an alcoholic.  If she could make it through 1-2 episodes without getting wasted, I might think sobriety is within her control.  It isn't and she doesn't.

On 7/13/2024 at 3:17 PM, 65mickey said:

I was bored today and rewatched the season that was filmed during covid when they all went to Brownwyn's vow renewal. Shannon got falling down sloppy drunk at the reception in front her children. She go up the next morning acting like nothing was wrong. I will say that John was very kind to her and made sure that she was Ok. He went above and beyond what a lot of men would have put up with. I do not think that Shannon has accepted that she has an alcohol problem but it seems obvious to me that she does. 

THAT episode alone should have been her wakeup call.  I think Johnny J got tired of being her minder.

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I think it's fun to see the kids on the show when it's just them being kids. But when they try to use the show to make their kids famous or have exposure, that's icky. It's not dance moms. Like Emily trying to make Annabelle happen. But it's kind of hard to bond with the housewives if you don't see them interact with their kids. When Tamra and Simon were together, their kids weren't really on that much, and Simon really did most of the work with the kids. I think I saw Tamra take the kids to visit Simon at his work once, but it's mostly been her with Ryan. In any case, I don't think Tamra's issues with Simon are about the kids being on camera. I think it's more about him wanting to control her and the kids.

I agree that Simon's issues are about control, like always. Do you remember he said he didn't want Tamra to travel alone when the first HW group trip was arranged? It was a GROUP trip. It seems she never did before. And there were so MANY other examples. The smaller kids were shown a lot when Simon was on, but since they were so young they didn't have storylines. It seems that unlike other OC HW kids the three younger ones are doing fine. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Ugh remember the Oc angels? Those kids were obnoxious 

 

I think in passing the kids are fine getting them on camera for a purpose no this show isn’t about them like that .. 

Edited July 17 by Keywestclubkid

[65mickey]

Yeah I remember that 2 of them got in a knock down hair pulling fight during a makeup session for a photo shoot. I also remember Lou Knickerbocker back in the dressing room when the girls were trying on bikinis and his comments and leering were gross. 

[bravofan27]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I started watching a couple of eps from each of her seasons on show.  Yes, the cast have been commenting on her drinking since she started.  Calling her an alcoholic.  If she could make it through 1-2 episodes without getting wasted, I might think sobriety is within her control.  It isn't and she doesn't.

THAT episode alone should have been her wakeup call.  I think Johnny J got tired of being her minder.

She bossed around David the entire time they were together. I don't know if she really likes men. LOL.