S02.E06: We Are Family

[Clanstarling]

On 4/9/2024 at 6:11 PM, Izzy85 said:

I loved "mom" Amanda with all her kids and her car rules, 😂

I once had three teenagers sit on their hands because they wouldn't stop (playfully) slapping at each other. Was kind of astonished that they obeyed me.

On 4/10/2024 at 3:36 PM, EtheltoTillie said:

Oh yeah and the uncle was dyslexic. 

That was one of the best parts - Will meeting not just someone, but family, with the same issue.

23 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

One question about the potluck dinner at the end.  How long exactly can one hold onto a tray of hot lasagna while talking to everyone else?

Yeah, that bothered me too. And cling wrap on top of hot food - but then maybe that's just me. Hot food gets aluminum foil.

I agree that it was one of the best episodes - not just on Will Trent but other cop shows - that I've seen in a while.

Edited April 13, 2024 by Clanstarling

[EtheltoTillie]

12 minutes ago, Clanstarling said:

 

I agree that it was one of the best episodes - not just on Will Trent but other cop shows - that I've seen in a while.

Yeah because will Trent is also better than all the other cop shows. It’s just so well done. I’m getting partial to the new show Elsbeth, however. 

[possibilities]

I assumed the lasagna was cold. Once you take it out of the oven, it will cool off fairly quickly. If you want to serve it hot at the potluck, you will have to reheat it at the destination. 

If they treat the uncle the way they treated Cricket, it will be another sign the show just wants to torture Will. I don't want that, but I didn't want them to kill Cricket, either.

If they just leave the fact that the cops ignored reports of bomb threats at the drag club, then that's crap writing. The show used to have a premise that the cops are corrupt and Will was fighting against the tide of bad behavior in the department. For them to once again introduce the idea that they are bad, and then just ignore it? Please, writers, don't keep doing that. 

I thought that Will's relatives being anti-cop was fair, though how they expressed it to him was not good. 

I would like to see them actually tackle those kinds of issues, and not just tease us and then ignore it.

[MerBearHou]

This was one of my favorite episodes of Will Trent.  The various “families” shown and how tight they are and their bickering and having each other’s backs — Will & Antonio, the GBI and APD, Will and Angie, Faith and Amanda, the drag queens (they really, really touched my heart and the actors who played the accused and the lawyer were just excellent), Nico & Will & Betty, Ormewood & Cooper, and I’m sure I’m missing some.  And to those who praised the “Will Trent” sign at the beginning of the show — all lit up at the club — agreed, that was SO cool!

Edited April 13, 2024 by MerBearHou

[Calvada]

17 hours ago, MerBearHou said:

I did laugh when Amanda walked in when Faith and her BF were holding hands and Amanda said “I didn’t know I was walking into a sex den”.  That cracked me up.  Amanda wasn’t acting like Faith’s aunt; at that moment, she acted like she’s her 90 year old prim grandmother!

I didn't like how Amanda announced in front of a reporter that they had some new video they had to watch.  That's something that annoys me in most cop shows, how they casually discuss details of the case in front of civilians.  Of course IRL, a reporter would never be allowed into the investigators' area, where they could see or hear something that shouldn't be made public.  

6 hours ago, marceline said:

I know a lot of folks aren't here for Ormewood's family situation but I like how he's really trying to do right by his kids. . . That said, walking his daughter into the middle of a confession and having her say "He doesn't look like a murderer" really creeped me out. I know this show exists in a slightly heightened universe but that felt off to me.

No real LEO would let their kid anywhere near that situation, even if they were confident he wasn't the murderer.  

I did like Ormewood getting Barrett to admit to multiple felonies. 

I'm suspicious of Antonio.  

[Clanstarling]

23 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Yeah because will Trent is also better than all the other cop shows. It’s just so well done. I’m getting partial to the new show Elsbeth, however. 

I have to agree that these days, it certainly is the best of the ones I watch.

[HyeChaps]

I don't remember it being said that Will's name is Wilbur.

[Orbert]

Yeah, I didn't remember hearing that before either.

[DEL901]

20 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

I don't remember it being said that Will's name is Wilbur.

I thought it had come up before, but maybe I am only “remembering” because I know his name from the books.    

[dleighg]

I would have thought his full name would have come up in the earlier discussion of how he got his name from Amanda's family. But I can't recall exactly what was said.

[KittenPokerCheater]

21 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

I don't remember it being said that Will's name is Wilbur.

I know nothing about the books, but know it has come up before (maybe when Amanda told him how he got his name at the end of last season?). 

[Sarah 103]

On 4/10/2024 at 3:09 PM, Snazzy Daisy said:

Glinda Velvet (lawyer by day, performer by night) is enigmatic and fascinating.

I would totally watch a spin-off about Glinda Velvet/Josiah Patnett, lawyer by day, drag queen by night. You could have courtroom drama and backstage drama. Also, the weekly Sunday meal before the show that day has to be part of every episode. Each episode has a scene with the Sunday meal.  

On 4/10/2024 at 4:30 PM, HyeChaps said:

I bet if Ormewood would cough up the bucks, Nico could take the daughter to the hair salon. 

Yes but I don't think Ormewood would want to spend the money because he thinks/he is convinced he can handle it and do it himself. 

On 4/12/2024 at 12:23 PM, Orbert said:

When Will met Uncle Antonio's friends, and one of them immediately called will a "dirty cop" -- what was that all about?  Was he just a cop hater?  I would've liked Uncle Antonio to have defended Will a bit, or at least give his friend some shit about jumping on his nephew like that, but Will just dealt with him head-on. 

I agree. That was a huge red flag for me. The fact that Antonio did not immediately say something when someone insulted a relative did not sit well with me at all. I know it could have been pure shock, but it felt wrong and off. 

[Grammy6]

When Faith's mother told Wlll about Amanda finding and naming him, she told him that Duke, Amanda's father's real name was Wilbur.  She also told him that Amanda's mother's maiden name was Trent.  Amanca couldn't keep baby Will, so she gave him the only thing she could, his name.  A name that meant so much to her.

Edited April 16, 2024 by Grammy6
Edited because I typed the wrong name of the person who found and named Will.

[AnimeMania]

Next New Episode:  April 30, 2024

[Orbert]

On 4/15/2024 at 12:21 PM, Sarah 103 said:

That was a huge red flag for me. The fact that Antonio did not immediately say something when someone insulted a relative did not sit well with me at all. I know it could have been pure shock, but it felt wrong and off. 

I'm not sure if it was a red flag for me -- I mean, I don't suspect Uncle Antonio of being a bad guy or anything -- but it was definitely weird.  I think it was just another example of the writers not working things all the way through.  It seemed like it was an opportunity for Will to deal directly with Antonio's friend, which he did.  But that meant that Antonio and the others just stood there while Will gave his little speech.  There was no reaction from anyone other than Will, and there should have been.  I don't think it was meant to cast Antonio in a bad light; I think it was just poor writing and/or directing.  In the best shows, characters without speaking lines are still "involved" in what's happening, reacting visibly to what the others are saying or doing.  They don't just stand around because the conversation is between two other characters.

[peeayebee]

3 hours ago, Orbert said:

I'm not sure if it was a red flag for me -- I mean, I don't suspect Uncle Antonio of being a bad guy or anything -- but it was definitely weird.  I think it was just another example of the writers not working things all the way through. 

I think there was a purpose other than having Will respond strongly. If Antonio has friends who are anti-police, then what does that say about Antonio? I don't want him to be a bad guy either, but I actually hope, for the sake of good writing, that there's something in his past (or present) related to problems with the police. Whatever that may be. 

[Orbert]

That's possible, too.  I think it was weird either way, because Antonio brought Will there to meet his friends, and it seems like Antonio would tell the guys ahead of time that Will is a GBI agent, if that's something likely to cause an issue.

On the other hand, it felt to me like Antonio was specifically meant to be "kinda like Will".  Dyslexic, dog lover, and perhaps a bit socially awkward and/or unaware.  Everyone has their quirks, and Will has some trouble reading the room sometimes.  Maybe Antonio is the same way.  It may not have occurred to him that his buddies are cop-haters.  Or maybe it's just the other two, or just the one.  I guess we'll see.  At least I hope so, because that was too weird of a scene to be swept away.

[peachmangosteen]

I wouldn't say being anti-police makes them bad guys at all.

[Irlandesa]

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I wouldn't say being anti-police makes them bad guys at all.

It's pretty rude to go on a rant to your friend's long-lost nephew about their profession but I agree I don't think it makes them criminals. 

I may be naive but I think Antonio is who he says he is--just a professor who can shed some light on where Trent came from.  He already has a potentially evil father.  He doesn't need another evil family member without this show getting too crazy.

[Clanstarling]

17 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I wouldn't say being anti-police makes them bad guys at all.

No, but basically attacking him verbally the first time they meet him - knowing he's the nephew of their friend - doesn't exactly make them great guys either.

Edited April 19, 2024 by Clanstarling

[Orbert]

That's all I really meant.  I said "bad guys" but I didn't mean criminals per se, just not exactly nice people.  I can buy Antonio being taken aback by his friend's verbal attack on Will, to the point where he didn't get a chance to react before Will stepped up and defended himself, but the friend jumping on Will like that was not cool.

[wonderwoman]

i also loved this episode. this second season, i think the writers didn’t know what to do with will and angie, so the storytelling’s felt disjointed. things seem to be coming together.

but, i still don’t understand why they decided to kill off cricket. i understand that susan kelechi watson wasn’t going to become a regular, but why kill her? cricket and will had incredible chemistry. and while he was initially devastated by her death, he certainly seems to have gotten over it. it would be one thing, if his pain was going to play out over the season; since it’s not, why squander the possibility that she could return? don’t get it.  

Edited April 19, 2024 by wonderwoman

[peachmangosteen]

2 hours ago, wonderwoman said:

but, i still don’t understand why they decided to kill off cricket. i understand that susan kelechi watson wasn’t going to become a regular, but why kill her? cricket and will had incredible chemistry. and while he was initially devastated by her death, he certainly seems to have gotten over it. it would be one thing, if his pain was going to play out over the season; since it’s not, why squander the possibility that she could return? don’t get it.  

Yea, I agree. The whole thing seems to have been pointless and unnecessary. Cricket didn't even need to be there at all tbh but killing her was just stupid.

I guess I didn't mind the guy going off on Will too much because I too would want to go off on a cop. I only wouldn't because I have some tact lol.

[mythoughtis]

Wonderful episode.  I liked the lawyer… but I didn’t think it was realistic that he’d be invited to Ormewood’s house for this dinner after more or less just meeting him.  After being involved with the team while defending a few more people, yes, but not yet. The dinner was about close friends( and Will’s new family member).  The lawyer  didn’t meet that criteria yet.   

Edited April 20, 2024 by mythoughtis