S17.E20: Decision Day Round One

[Crashcourse]

I zoned out and changed channels at some point, so I missed the discussion about Austin and the producer.  I'm glad I did now. 

[cinsays]

5 hours ago, Retired at last said:

The fact that they had just agreed to actually stay married that day and they didn't go to someone's home that night should have told Becca that it wasn't real. The show and cameras were over, so they should have gone to one of their apartments, since I imagine they both had to be out of the show one when they went to the D Day meeting. They could have even gone to. hotel or something, but the fact that they didn't should have been all that Becca needed to see.

she told him she wanted to be alone and so he let her be, don't know why that's so bad

[Yeah No]

On 3/7/2024 at 12:08 PM, Crashcourse said:

I liked Brennan and I don't think he's an evil android.  He was done with Emily about 10 minutes after he met her and was trying to deal with the fact that he publicly stated that he'd be married for life.  That was his biggest mistake.  It was nice to see their friendly parting at the end though. 

I loved Cam calling out that know-it-all bitch Clare.  You go Cam!  And take care of yourself. 

I just don't get the Brennan love.  THAT was his biggest mistake?  This bastard told Emily he had enough on her to "ruin her".  She revealed that right in front of him and he didn't deny it.  What did she do, murder someone?  Nice guy, yeah right.  😏

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I just don't get the Brennan love.  THAT was his biggest mistake?  This bastard told Emily he had enough on her to "ruin her".  She revealed that right in front of him and he didn't deny it.  What did she do, murder someone?  Nice guy, yeah right.  😏

I have no love for Brennan at all. I have always thought he was an uptight, condescending, arrogant little prick. I don’t particularly like Emily either, but I really can’t stand Brennan. He and Orion are tied for my least favorite of the season.

[Crashcourse]

2 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I just don't get the Brennan love.  THAT was his biggest mistake?  This bastard told Emily he had enough on her to "ruin her".  She revealed that right in front of him and he didn't deny it.  What did she do, murder someone?  Nice guy, yeah right.  😏

Is this really Clare?  😜

[kristen111]

Claire is a know it all who butts into everyone’s business, just because she’s a Therapist?  These kind of people never know when to zip it.  She should analyze herself.

 

[Kiss my mutt]

I remember Becca saying she needed a break and didn’t want to be with Austin right away. Not that it excuses him cozying up with the producer and not being truthful about it. I really hope Becca doesn’t lose her resolve about not getting back together with Austin without her posse backing her up. I wish he’d just put her out of her misery.

Edited March 10 by Kiss my mutt

[qtpye]

On 3/8/2024 at 4:47 PM, Auntie Anxiety said:

If you have so many secrets that need protection (whatever that means), then what the hell are you doing on this show in the first place? 

I stopped watching after the Boston season (I live in the area) and started up again halfway through this season because I wanted to watch Prison Brides which follows it. Married at First Sight jumped the shark years ago. Someone needs to put this crapfest out of its misery.

I keep wondering who got custody of the goldfish, Becca or Austin?

Maybe the producer the goldfish was named after will take care of it, probably with Austin.

[kristen111]

Seems like the show picked new people to do the picking.  None of them were matched right from the beginning.  All of them not staying together, and one last couple probably Actors.

 

[Yeah No]

3 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Seems like the show picked new people to do the picking.  None of them were matched right from the beginning.  All of them not staying together, and one last couple probably Actors.

I know, now that we know more about Brennan and Emily in particular, how anyone could have matched them for anything but a train wreck is beyond me.  It's more than obvious from even the little we know about each of them that they would be a match made in hell.  I don't think either of them are actors but Chloe and Michael are still suspects of mine.

[Maximadc]

thinking about Emily’s red eyes, nose twitching and sometimes strange facial movements, I start questioning the reason why Brannon said that revealing the secret would destroy her future.

if this is true, everything makes sense and I respect him greatly 

[kristen111]

6 minutes ago, Maximadc said:

thinking about Emily’s red eyes, nose twitching and sometimes strange facial movements, I start questioning the reason why Brannon said that revealing the secret would destroy her future.

if this is true, everything makes sense and I respect him greatly 

Interesting.  Does anyone have an idea what it may be?

[Yeah No]

17 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Interesting.  Does anyone have an idea what it may be?

Damned if I know, but here are some guesses:

That maybe she wears contact lenses that make her squint in bright light and has rosacea? 

That she suffers from hay fever or other allergy?

That she has an STD and still tried to have sex with him before he found about it?

That she's under undue stress and anxiety?

That she's an alcoholic?

The only one of those things above that might potentially ruin her is if she had a communicable STD that she didn't tell the experts about when she signed up for the show and might not have revealed it to him or her past sexual partners either.  Obviously he eventually found out about it.  And I still don't know about saying it would ruin her.  It might make her look really bad and have people angry at her but I don't know about "ruining" her.  Same with being an alcoholic.  She wouldn't look great to the world but that's not the kind of thing I would think someone could use to "ruin her".  Even if she didn't disclose it on the show I don't know how much that coming out would ruin her.  Those are very strong words.

 

[Starlight925]

The suggestion by Brennan (vis a vis the red nose, twitchiness, etc.) that could "ruin her" is that she's a true "party girl" in every sense of the word.

[Yeah No]

7 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

The suggestion by Brennan (vis a vis the red nose, twitchiness, etc.) that could "ruin her" is that she's a true "party girl" in every sense of the word.

She has pretty much openly described herself that way on the show in early episodes, including admitting to one night stands and not ever having a LTR,  plus the way she has been depicted on the show leads to that conclusion so I don't see how him coming out with that alone would ruin her.  It's already a thing with the viewing audience so it would have to be more damaging than that to "ruin her" in my opinion.

[kristen111]

A Hooker?   No .. Maybe?    A stupid silly thing I saw was when they said their vows.  A solumn moment, when they both turned around to the guests, she stuck her hip out and held her bouquet up in the air.  That pose did not look like a blushing Bride.  Just something I noticed that didn’t look appropriate.

[Yeah No]

2 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

A Hooker?   No .. Maybe?    A stupid silly thing I saw was when they said their vows.  A solumn moment, when they both turned around to the guests, she stuck her hip out and held her bouquet up in the air.  That pose did not look like a blushing Bride.  Just something I noticed that didn’t look appropriate.

Oooh, I didn't think of that one!  Or maybe she was a "paid escort" or "exotic dancer" with all that might imply?  Maybe it was in her past but even so I could see how that would not look good for her if it came out.  

[Starlight925]

I'm speaking of a "party girl" more in the sense of possible illegal "party substances", which if true, and Brennan outs her, could possibly ruin her career.

[Maximadc]

3 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

I'm speaking of a "party girl" more in the sense of possible illegal "party substances", which if true, and Brennan outs her, could possibly ruin her career.

Thank you!

[Starlight925]

OK I just looked Emily up.  She has a multi-year career with a great company, and looks like she's advanced well over the years.  

Yeah, this could be bad for her.

Brennan, shuttie uppie.

[LennieBriscoe]

For Pete's Sake, why the beating around the proverbial bush here? If there's anything untoward causing a twitching nose, of which the revelation could "ruin" a person, just say it: cocaine! 

An "exotic dancer"? Emily?! 😂😂😂😂

"MAFS" has a "solemn moment"? 

Finally, modern brides don't "blush" in gowns with low-cut tops, low-cut waists, and low-cut backs. So what's a sassy pose or two?

 

Edited March 10 by LennieBriscoe

[kristen111]

28 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

For Pete's Sake, why the beating around the proverbial bush here? If there's anything untoward causing a twitching nose, of which the revelation could "ruin" a person, just say it: cocaine! 

An "exotic dancer"? Emily?! 😂😂😂😂

"MAFS" has a "solemn moment"? 

Finally, modern brides don't "blush" in gowns with low-cut tops, low-cut waists, and low-cut backs. So what's a sassy pose or two?

 

Just reaching.  No harm.

[Maximadc]

On 3/7/2024 at 4:28 PM, Yeah No said:

He may not be "evil" but at the very least I think he's another self-centered prick or bastard.  Sorry but I don't see good qualities in him.  That stuff he did for Emily when she had her accident was just an act for the cameras, and that was obvious to me.  He didn't have his heart in it, it was all an act.  The guy has never even cracked a smile or done anything that wasn't completely self-serving.  And that look on his face tells the tale.  He always had a puss on his face like he was biding his time until this whole thing was over.  He couldn't even be bothered to humor the experts when he met with them and treated them with disrespect too (and then people wonder why Dr. Pia laced into him in such a fashion!).  His surly attitude defied any of their questions and he never put one ounce of effort into getting to know or like Emily.  And then he had the delusional NERVE to think he deserved praise for all he thinks he did to make the relationship work!  He didn't treat Emily with the decency and respect any human being deserves much less put any effort into their relationship!  I'm usually able to see the good and bad in anyone but he strikes me as so vile I can't forgive him. 

I don't get defending Brennan either.  It feels like some are buying into his BS and blaming Emily for his mistreatment of her.  Like she must be some kind of drunken bar hag and therefore deserves him shunning and detesting her or something.  Interestingly my husband feels exactly the same way.  Whatever Emily is or might be she didn't deserve the way he treated her.  She was kind of clueless but it's still not clear to me how much of a party girl she is or drinking problem she has.  Most of what we have seen that makes her look like that comes from the bachelorette party, not from everyday life.  And that scene at Michael and Chloe's wedding gets my side eye too.  All she's doing is dancing and maybe dropped a glass.  There would have to be a LOT more evidence for me to think she deserved ANY of what she got from this douche!

Alcoholic blackouts - mid stage alcoholism 

[Yeah No]

19 minutes ago, Maximadc said:

Alcoholic blackouts - mid stage alcoholism 

We haven't seen any of that, though.  And Brennan's comments may be mostly bluster.  He would have to have some kind of evidence or proof of whatever it is for him to say he could "ruin her".

1 hour ago, Starlight925 said:

I'm speaking of a "party girl" more in the sense of possible illegal "party substances", which if true, and Brennan outs her, could possibly ruin her career.

But that's hearsay from a guy that wouldn't necessarily be believed.  He could have been making that up.  He specifically said he "had enough on her to ruin her".  To me that means he has some kind of evidence that he could produce to the public.  He could say she does drugs or that she engaged in pay for sex behavior all he wants.  At this point that's just stuff couples say to each other when they're mad, not evidence of anything.  Unless she works for a company that would just not like that kind of publicity.  She has actually shown enough behavior on screen on this show all by herself for some companies to fire her even without Brennan's accusations.

44 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Just reaching.  No harm.

Yes, thank you!

[kristen111]

19 minutes ago, Maximadc said:

Alcoholic blackouts - mid stage alcoholism 

You’re right.  He didn’t belong on the show in the first place.  He hardly looked at Emily the whole time.  This show is not enjoyable anymore for many reasons.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, LennieBriscoe said:

For Pete's Sake, why the beating around the proverbial bush here? If there's anything untoward causing a twitching nose, of which the revelation could "ruin" a person, just say it: cocaine! 

Emily doesn't strike me as someone whose substance of choice is cocaine or we would see evidence of her being more manic.  She's too laid back.  And alcohol can cause similar symptoms, especially the enlarged looking red nose.  Alcohol can bring on rosacea.  Plus we have seen her many times with a glass of alcohol in her hands, so I don't think it's cocaine.  Brennan may think she's an alcoholic but his accusations sounded like something he could substantiate with proof, like photos he dug up of her with a married executive or congressman or something.  I could believe that Emily has had a few relationships as a side piece or "the other woman".  I'm not saying that to insult her but it just seems consistent with what we already know about her.

[Elizzikra]

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And Brennan's comments may be mostly bluster. 

This is what I think it is. Brennan is an ass and fairly misogynistic. I think what he "has" on Emily is a bunch of text and maybe some recorded conversations in which she is angry, yells, drops a lot of "fucks," perhaps is obviously drunk, etc. In short, anything old fashioned Brennan thinks doesn't befit a prim and proper lady. The women he likes are the type of women who would feel "ruined" if that sort of thing got out about them.

[Chatty Cake]

I can’t believe Becca said yes and Austin did too!  I think if she had some self esteem and had said no he would have also. He didn’t want to look bad but was fine going out with the producer later that day? He’s not into her in any sense of the word but put on a little show for the cameras.  She can’t think there’s a chance at this point? I didn’t notice the producer, is she prettier than Becca? 
Bennan was protecting Emily from him saying something nasty. I was hoping he would say it. 
 

[Madding crowd]

On 3/9/2024 at 9:51 AM, Gator Stud said:

Emily did admit to liking one night stands and her favorite hobby is drinking?  What did she expect? She did not have to admit it.  Lauren never said she was a one-night stand Queen.  She said she had sex before the experiment started.  If you drink alot and can handle your alcohol, nobody would think you have a drinking problem.  Drunk are drunks regardless of their gender.  When Vincent was freaking with the strippers, he was called out. I disagree that Emily is being treated harshly or in a sexist way.

Emily also admitted she tried to tear down the shower curtain to get at Brennan and passed out on him in bed. If a man did those things he would be judged very harshly. She had been drinking a lot before this happened. I believe she has a drinking problem and that is one of the reasons she was constantly ghosted. Brennan is a grim robot so I don’t like him either but Emily is not entirely an innocent victim here.

[JenE4]

I think viewers are making a bit of a leap here that Emily looooooves one-night stands and is likely a drug-addicted hooker. She has had one-night stands because…no one has ever called her back for a second date! That just makes them one-night stands by default. Maybe in her mind each experience was the beginning of a relationship that wasn’t. I think she’s just gets drunk a lot. I think what would “ruin” her is probably the story Brennan told on the After Party about her being so drunk that she pulled down the shower curtain while he was taking a shower, tried to sexually assault him and smother him to death, which was really just her falling asleep/passing out on top of him trying to cuddle. We heard this weeks ago, but that was recorded long after filming. Emily went on that show trying to throw Brennan under the bus, so he came on the After Show doing the same—here’s the real Emily off camera. 

1 minute ago, Madding crowd said:

Emily also admitted she tried to tear down the shower curtain to get at Brennan and passed out on him in bed. If a man did those things he would be judged very harshly. She had been drinking a lot before this happened. I believe she has a drinking problem and that is one of the reasons she was constantly ghosted. Brennan is a grim robot so I don’t like him either but Emily is not entirely an innocent victim here.

Lol. We were posting at the same time. I’m so glad someone else remembers this and agrees with me that this is most likely what Brennan was “protecting her” over.

[Maximadc]

On 3/7/2024 at 10:18 PM, Jodyj said:

I almost understood the "lie" about the producer if it was one. it is one of two things.

Let's say he went with Brennan and a producer was there already and joined up with them. (Everyone was going to the same bar) Did you go to the bar with a producer? No is not a lie. 

Two. Becca told him she needed some alone time. He goes to the bar with his friends. He thinks everything is fine like he said on the way into that get together. Then Becca walks in BLASTS him in front of all the other people. He is stunned, humiliated and pretty much wants to end the yelling. So when she yells at him if he was with a producer he lied. He just wants it to end. 

This second scenario has literally happened to me. I had one hell of a childhood with a lot of yelling and you learn tricks and tips on how to defuse the "monster" yelling at you. One of those tricks is lie. Now as an adult I understand that is not the way to get out of things anymore but man trigger that inner child by coming at me strong and sometimes your brain reverts right back to the defuse the monster in any way possible. Again totally not saying that is right but it is something that happens. 

Becca was in the wrong in that moment. This was something that should have been done in private. Not with a harpy cheerleading team behind her egging her on. Hell Emily even told her "Do you want to change your answer now" UGH

I felt so bad for Austin. I expected him to tell her “we are done” right when she started this public interrogation. 
He looked humiliated and embarrassed for going out with Brennon and the producer. When it becomes a crime? 
Becca is too needy for healthy relationships. 
again, let’s play this situation in reverse. She would be outraged and calling  him a controlling abuser who demanded sex when she was not ready

 

[cinsays]

4 hours ago, Yeah No said:

We haven't seen any of that, though.  And Brennan's comments may be mostly bluster.  He would have to have some kind of evidence or proof of whatever it is for him to say he could "ruin her".

But that's hearsay from a guy that wouldn't necessarily be believed.  He could have been making that up.  He specifically said he "had enough on her to ruin her".  To me that means he has some kind of evidence that he could produce to the public.  He could say she does drugs or that she engaged in pay for sex behavior all he wants.  At this point that's just stuff couples say to each other when they're mad, not evidence of anything.  Unless she works for a company that would just not like that kind of publicity.  She has actually shown enough behavior on screen on this show all by herself for some companies to fire her even without Brennan's accusations.

Yes, thank you!

did he actually say that? i thought emily said that he said it.  i wouldn't believe anything she says

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

Emily also admitted she tried to tear down the shower curtain to get at Brennan and passed out on him in bed. If a man did those things he would be judged very harshly. She had been drinking a lot before this happened. I believe she has a drinking problem and that is one of the reasons she was constantly ghosted. Brennan is a grim robot so I don’t like him either but Emily is not entirely an innocent victim here.

Did she admit that?  I remember Brennan recounting that tale, but I don't remember her admitting it.

1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

I think viewers are making a bit of a leap here that Emily looooooves one-night stands and is likely a drug-addicted hooker. She has had one-night stands because…no one has ever called her back for a second date! That just makes them one-night stands by default. Maybe in her mind each experience was the beginning of a relationship that wasn’t. I think she’s just gets drunk a lot. I think what would “ruin” her is probably the story Brennan told on the After Party about her being so drunk that she pulled down the shower curtain while he was taking a shower, tried to sexually assault him and smother him to death, which was really just her falling asleep/passing out on top of him trying to cuddle. We heard this weeks ago, but that was recorded long after filming. Emily went on that show trying to throw Brennan under the bus, so he came on the After Show doing the same—here’s the real Emily off camera. 

Even though I'm old I know a lot of young people today don't have sex on the first date if they're looking for more than that  because it tends to send the message that this is just a hook-up.  But even if she did go into every sexual encounter thinking there might be a future I kind of doubt no one would have ever called her back for a second date.  Unless she's getting shit-faced and acting like a wild woman every time, but hey, even if she did that once in a while there would be a guy that likes that, LOL, especially if he's just looking for sex.  He'd at least call her back for another time in the sack.  She was probably cuter several years ago and so I just don't buy that she's turned off every single guy that came along.  I think she was either "looking for love in all the wrong places" and picking up men in bars and then cluelessly wondering why all she got was one night of sex out of it and no call back, or she was intentionally sleeping with men just for fun with no strings attached.  Or maybe a little bit of both.  Who knows what she would have done when drunk?

Also it was Brennan that said she pulled down the shower curtain, etc. so he would have known that he filmed that before decision day (and I doubt he filmed that talking head afterward), so it wouldn't be anything new, and I doubt that was it.  Also I don't think that's enough to "ruin her" especially out of his mouth second hand because he has a lot of reasons to lie.  And I don't remember hearing her say that she did that herself.

28 minutes ago, cinsays said:

did he actually say that? i thought emily said that he said it.  i wouldn't believe anything she says

Yes, Emily said he said he had enough to ruin her, but he was sitting right next to her at the time and didn't deny it so I'm assuming he would have denied it if he didn't say it.  And I don't think it was clever editing either.  He was right next to her in the same shot when she said it on decision day.

[Madding crowd]

Brennan recounted the shower curtain story to Emily when she asked why he was upset and she didn’t deny it happened.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Madding crowd said:

Brennan recounted the shower curtain story to Emily when she asked why he was upset and she didn’t deny it happened.

I really, really doubt that Emily wouldn't deny that she "tried to smother him in his sleep" if he said that to her point blank.  I don't remember how he worded it when he told it to her, but he may have gotten her off guard because she was drunk during the incident and doesn't remember it that well.  When he told the story elsewhere he practically made it sound like she was trying to kill him!  Even Keisha told him those were "strong accusations".  He didn't back down from them but I refuse to believe he didn't exaggerate them knowing that Emily probably wouldn't remember it.

[Chatty Cake]

It’s very off putting when a woman throws herself on a man and he’s not into her. I found Emily annoying and while I didn’t like Brennan, I didn’t think she was a good person. She smirked a lot and constantly had an attitude and was in denial about her negativity.

The way Becca grilled Austin about his going out was over the top. He should have told her, I just don’t like you, you’re too whiny, pudgy and acne ridden. You gross me out physically. It’s best to be honest because she is very thick headed and isn’t getting it. 

When a man doesn’t want to have sex with his wife, something is very wrong.

[Meowwww]

Becca reminds me so much of my ex daughter in law, who spoke therapy speak anywhere and everywhere.  “Protecting” “feel safe” “not centered” “walls up” “trauma” “toxic” “silenced”.  And on and on.   And the “like”.  
The Rise of Therapy-Speak great article. 
I don’t like Emily because she’s every mean girl who teased me in school.  She gets that snotty smirk on and it just sends me.  And the group of mean girls piling on the therapy speak at the get together.  Ugh!
I finally figured out who Chloe reminds me of….the lead actress on Schmigadoon!  (I love Schmigadoon).  Chloe must have a musical theater past, she also reminds me of my musical theater friends.  

Edited March 11 by Meowwww

[LennieBriscoe]

Without the official divorces of the official marriages---the legitimacy of which we have hammered home each season---it is unseemly at best and unethical at worst for any of the participants to be "dating," double, coincidental, or otherwise. 

Edited March 11 by LennieBriscoe

[Maximadc]

I wonder how many weeks each of these couples would last in the Australian scenario.

[Elizzikra]

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Chloe must have a musical theater past, she also reminds me of my musical theater friends.  

I'm not sure why, but I can totally see this.

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Without the official divorces of the official marriages---the legitimacy of which we have hammered home each season---it is unseemly at best and unethical at worst for any of the participants to be "dating," double, coincidental, or otherwise. 

This is why I want more information. Was Austin on a "date" with the producer or was there really a group that went out - like, the season is done filming, let's have some drinks? How did it get planned? Did Austin and the producer arrange to be together, alone or in a group, or did they geuninely find themselves out together as part of a group. And maybe most crucially, did anything happen that Clare and/or Emily witnessed that would indicate that they were there other than platonically? Or was it just enough that Austin and the producer were at the same bar at the same time?

I honestly don't know what to think. The way that Becca went about confronting Austin pretty much guaranteed that she won't ever get the truth from him. I think Clare and Emily were going to find fault in Austin just being in the same establishment at the same time as the producer, even if Austin spent the entire evening loudly proclaiming his love and devotion to Becca (which I am sure he wouldn't do but still...).

In any event, I think their marriage has been friend-zoned since the start and it really doesn't matter if Austin went out the night of decision day or weeks later with a potential romantic partner. It sucks that he is lying about it, if he is, but there was no non-platonic future for Austin and Becca. Them saying otherwise on D-Day was just a waste of a champagne toast.

[Yeah No]

10 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

This is what I think it is. Brennan is an ass and fairly misogynistic. I think what he "has" on Emily is a bunch of text and maybe some recorded conversations in which she is angry, yells, drops a lot of "fucks," perhaps is obviously drunk, etc. In short, anything old fashioned Brennan thinks doesn't befit a prim and proper lady. The women he likes are the type of women who would feel "ruined" if that sort of thing got out about them.

This pretty much nutshells for me exactly how I see this situation.

Most of the stuff I don't like Brennan over is based on what I've seen of him on camera.  Meanwhile most of what I've seen as justification for not liking Emily has been based on assumptions made on hearsay that may  have happened off  camera, but only if you believe that Brennan isn't exaggerating or outright lying.  And for me that's too much to ask.

[Chatty Cake]

8 hours ago, Meowwww said:

Becca reminds me so much of my ex daughter in law, who spoke therapy speak anywhere and everywhere.  “Protecting” “feel safe” “not centered” “walls up” “trauma” “toxic” “silenced”.  And on and on.   And the “like”.  
The Rise of Therapy-Speak great article. 
I don’t like Emily because she’s every mean girl who teased me in school.  She gets that snotty smirk on and it just sends me.  And the group of mean girls piling on the therapy speak at the get together.  Ugh!
I finally figured out who Chloe reminds me of….the lead actress on Schmigadoon!  (I love Schmigadoon).  Chloe must have a musical theater past, she also reminds me of my musical theater friends.  

I agree with the therapy speak. It’s annoying. I’m certain Becca has used her anxiety to not work a real job and just laze about being sad.

[seacliffsal]

All of these participants receive, what in my opinion is justified, criticism.  However, I do want to acknowledge that Austin did have a family dinner with Becca and his parents and he did take her on that trip to meet his grandmother and other family members.  So, there may have been a time during which he did see a future with Becca.  I think there is way more to their 'story' than we have been told.

As for meeting up with the producer-this show should better vet its staff as first we had Jon and the female 'expert' (obviously I forgot her name), and now a potential crossing of the lines with Austin and producer.  As much as all of the participants sign a huge contract, perhaps staff should sign one as well (i.e. no dating of participants until after divorces are finalized).

[Yeah No]

8 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

All of these participants receive, what in my opinion is justified, criticism.  However, I do want to acknowledge that Austin did have a family dinner with Becca and his parents and he did take her on that trip to meet his grandmother and other family members.  So, there may have been a time during which he did see a future with Becca.  I think there is way more to their 'story' than we have been told.

As for meeting up with the producer-this show should better vet its staff as first we had Jon and the female 'expert' (obviously I forgot her name), and now a potential crossing of the lines with Austin and producer.  As much as all of the participants sign a huge contract, perhaps staff should sign one as well (i.e. no dating of participants until after divorces are finalized).

I agree with you, I think Austin might have been all-in with Becca for a while but he may also have been responding to pressure from the show and his family to meet them and trying to keep up appearances until he got his feelings sorted out.  I think if he were that all in they would have had sex by that time.

I brought up the similarity between Austin and this producer and Jonathan Francetic and Dr. Jessica in another post.  Although I thought they claimed they didn't start seeing each other until after the show there was definitely something percolating between them before that.  I get the feeling a lot of them involved with this show behind and in front of the camera are slightly shady.

The thing is we're seeing more accusations on this show that aren't being backed up with any proof.  Becca's insinuation about the producer is another one.  Was that just in the context of a group of people hanging out after filming or was that a "date"?  I do think he should have spent that evening with Becca, but then I read somewhere that she told him she wanted to be alone that evening (not sure I got that right).  It's so confusing with the accusations that the audience doesn't even know which end is up anymore.  

[Elizzikra]

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I’m certain Becca has used her anxiety to not work a real job and just laze about being sad.

What?

Becca has a real job - she is a photographer. She has other photographers that work for her. It's not a conventional work schedule but it is a real job and not a particularly easy one at that. They haul a ton of gear, have to market themselves constantly, book events, shoot the events while hauling a bunch of gear and dealing with all sorts of people, then edit the photos and deliver them. 

It's fine to not like Becca but we have no reason to think she is a) unemployed and b) lazy. 

[Yeah No]

19 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Becca has a real job - she is a photographer. She has other photographers that work for her. It's not a conventional work schedule but it is a real job and not a particularly easy one at that. They haul a ton of gear, have to market themselves constantly, book events, shoot the events while hauling a bunch of gear and dealing with all sorts of people, then edit the photos and deliver them. 

It's fine to not like Becca but we have no reason to think she is a) unemployed and b) lazy. 

Thank you!  My husband had a side job as a wedding photographer for 25 years.  He worked for a studio but let me tell you the owners of those businesses work their asses off in all the ways you mention above.  The only way it's easier now is because of digital photography but now without the limitations of film they're expected to take literally hundreds of photos at every event and then it's quite a job to choose the best ones from out of that.  And it's not easy dealing with customers in that business either.  A lot of them have high expectations and sometimes no matter what magic a photographer performs it's not enough for some people.  My husband was very happy he wasn't in that end of the business, but as an owner Becca would be involved in every aspect.  That's not a walk in the park!

[princelina]

On 3/10/2024 at 1:26 AM, Yeah No said:

I know, now that we know more about Brennan and Emily in particular, how anyone could have matched them for anything but a train wreck is beyond me.  It's more than obvious from even the little we know about each of them that they would be a match made in hell.  

Yes!  And both Becca and Cameron had pretty strong feelings about religion which were not considered.  This was terrible matching all around.  

21 hours ago, Maximadc said:

I felt so bad for Austin. I expected him to tell her “we are done” right when she started this public interrogation. 
He looked humiliated and embarrassed for going out with Brennon and the producer. When it becomes a crime? 

Screw Austin - she started with "what did you do last night?"  "Oh Brennan and I went out for drinks and ran into some of the producers in the bar" - done.  Giving one word answers to each question just so you can say "I didn't say that exactly" is the move of at least a sneak, at worst a liar.  That's when it becomes a crime 😄

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

Thank you!  My husband had a side job as a wedding photographer for 25 years.  He worked for a studio but let me tell you the owners of those businesses work their asses off in all the ways you mention above.  The only way it's easier now is because of digital photography but now without the limitations of film they're expected to take literally hundreds of photos at every event and then it's quite a job to choose the best ones from out of that.  And it's not easy dealing with customers in that business either.  A lot of them have high expectations and sometimes no matter what magic a photographer performs it's not enough for some people.  My husband was very happy he wasn't in that end of the business, but as an owner Becca would be involved in every aspect.  That's not a walk in the park!

Not to mention all the potential clients who want you to work for free in exchange for the “exposure.”

[Maximadc]

3 hours ago, princelina said:

Yes!  And both Becca and Cameron had pretty strong feelings about religion which were not considered.  This was terrible matching all around.  

Screw Austin - she started with "what did you do last night?"  "Oh Brennan and I went out for drinks and ran into some of the producers in the bar" - done.  Giving one word answers to each question just so you can say "I didn't say that exactly" is the move of at least a sneak, at worst a liar.  That's when it becomes a crime 😄

It was pure interrogation of her still husband in front of the cheering mean girls. Same as Emily calls to sleeping Brennon while the crew was in her apartment. I would be furious to realize that she was recording our conversation  

 

 

 

 

[Gator Stud]

On 3/10/2024 at 10:45 AM, Yeah No said:

Emily doesn't strike me as someone whose substance of choice is cocaine or we would see evidence of her being more manic.  She's too laid back.  And alcohol can cause similar symptoms, especially the enlarged looking red nose.  Alcohol can bring on rosacea.  Plus we have seen her many times with a glass of alcohol in her hands, so I don't think it's cocaine.  Brennan may think she's an alcoholic but his accusations sounded like something he could substantiate with proof, like photos he dug up of her with a married executive or congressman or something.  I could believe that Emily has had a few relationships as a side piece or "the other woman".  I'm not saying that to insult her but it just seems consistent with what we already know about her.

I think you are right about this.  She's not on coke. Believe it or not, even if she does have a drinking problem and she is the one-night stand Qween, I dont think this makes her a bad person.