Spartan Girl February 12 Share February 12 Okay, I need Cynthia’s “Defying Gravity” NOW. 1 Link to comment
Bookworm 1979 February 12 Share February 12 I didn't want to go see this, but now I think I have to. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 12 Share February 12 I assume it's a musical but, I have no idea if some of, these actors can sing. Link to comment
SeanC February 12 Share February 12 1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said: I assume it's a musical but, I have no idea if some of, these actors can sing. Most of the roles are played by people with musical theatre background. The exceptions are Yeoh and Goldblum, but Madam Morrible barely sings and both she and the Wizard are really just sing-talking. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 12 Share February 12 38 minutes ago, SeanC said: Most of the roles are played by people with musical theatre background. The exceptions are Yeoh and Goldblum, but Madam Morrible barely sings and both she and the Wizard are really just sing-talking. Those were the 2, I was thinking of when I posted. Especially since Joel Grey originated The Wizard on Broadway and Yeoh's character has at least one number that I recall. Link to comment
galaxygirl76 February 12 Share February 12 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I assume it's a musical but, I have no idea if some of, these actors can sing. Cynthia Erivo won a Tony for best actress in a musical. 4 Link to comment
SeanC February 12 Share February 12 41 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: Those were the 2, I was thinking of when I posted. Especially since Joel Grey originated The Wizard on Broadway and Yeoh's character has at least one number that I recall. Morrible's parts in "The Wizard and I" and "Thank Goodness", for the record. A couple of lines in each case, in neither case very challenging. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 February 12 Share February 12 11 hours ago, SeanC said: Morrible's parts in "The Wizard and I" and "Thank Goodness", for the record. A couple of lines in each case, in neither case very challenging. Yeah but Goldblum has to sing "Wonderful" which granted I don't even remember how it sounded when I saw it live (several years into it's run) but, I listen to the Joel Gray version all the time. I just don't recall him singing ever before, he might be good I just don't know. Link to comment
Chyromaniac February 13 Share February 13 Goldblum will be fine. He’s been in a jazz band for at least a decade, and they’ve put out a few albums. Here’s a duet he did with Sarah Silverman, and if he can pull off harmonies with someone doing comedic vocals (no offense to Sarah- I think she is fun here), nothing in Wicked will be a problem: Me and My Shadow Link to comment
scarynikki12 February 16 Share February 16 In the last couple of months I realized I'd never actually heard Ariana Grande sing despite knowing who she is for years. So I've listened to several of her songs and she doesn't enunciate at all. I really hope her getting the part was contingent on enunciating her songs. I'm already going to have a hard time not comparing her to Kristin (who makes every word in every song perfectly clear by the way). I'm not even a little concerned about Cynthia. She's going to be amazing. They're going to release a trailer making it clear it's a musical right? I don't want them to do like Mean Girls and pretend it's not. 3 Link to comment
rmontro February 16 Share February 16 The only thing that bugs me about this is that they're doing it in two parts. Splitting it in two like that seems like that will make it hit much differently than seeing it onstage, where you get the whole thing. Even though Defying Gravity will make a nice finisher. 3 Link to comment
Spartan Girl February 17 Share February 17 3 hours ago, scarynikki12 said: In the last couple of months I realized I'd never actually heard Ariana Grande sing despite knowing who she is for years. So I've listened to several of her songs and she doesn't enunciate at all. I really hope her getting the part was contingent on enunciating her songs. I'm already going to have a hard time not comparing her to Kristin (who makes every word in every song perfectly clear by the way). I'm not even a little concerned about Cynthia. She's going to be amazing. They're going to release a trailer making it clear it's a musical right? I don't want them to do like Mean Girls and pretend it's not. You’d have to be living under a rock to not know Wicked is a musical. And DG is in the rrailer. 1 Link to comment
Bill1978 February 17 Share February 17 7 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: You’d have to be living under a rock to not know Wicked is a musical. And DG is in the rrailer. While all of this is true, it is edited in a way that gives the impression they've decided to film a non-musical version of it. Especially with the version of DG used, which is reminiscent of all those slowed down 'creepy' covers that Disney use to use for their early days remakes. The version of DG used in that trialer sounds more end credits than what you would expect from a movie adaptation of the musical. You can definitely see the shots that are from musical numbers but, similar to Wonka's trailers where similar shots occurred, they seem scared to reveal it is actually a musical. Remember there were people upset that the Sweeney Todd movie was a musical and felt duped by the trailer. 3 Link to comment
Chyromaniac February 17 Share February 17 (edited) Agreed- there’s a difference between hearing a couple of notes sung from a song, and actually showing someone singing. The bit from Defying Gravity isn’t even a word, it’s just a vocal run. What’s the difference between that, and the kind of vocalizing found in any number of movie scores? And while Wicked absolutely was a phenomenon, that was also twenty years ago. If this movie is going to be successful, it’s going to have to draw in kids who weren’t even alive back then, and adults who have probably forgotten/never knew that there even was a musical. The fans know, and they’ll show up (unless they’ve heard that it’s only half the show, and decide to just wait until they can watch both parts at home). Either way, it would be nice for them to make it clear that this is a musical - I think Hollywood would be in much better shape if they would just tell us what their movies are actually like, rather than trying to fudge them into looking like what they assume random moviegoers would want to see. Edited February 17 by Chyromaniac 6 Link to comment
JustHereForFood February 17 Share February 17 I don't get people who don't look up info about movies they are going to see and then wonder if it is/isn't something. 4 Link to comment
MadyGirl1987 February 17 Share February 17 13 minutes ago, JustHereForFood said: I don't get people who don't look up info about movies they are going to see and then wonder if it is/isn't something. Right? I feel the same about books. I'm not going to waste my time reading or watching something I don't know what it is. Life's too short and there are so many things I know that I want to read or watch. The only thing is maybe if family or friends wants to see something and I'm going along to go along. That's how I saw the first Avatar movie; we were at my grandma's celebrating Christmas with my mom's family and the family wanted to see it. I hadn't really know anything about it. Back on topic; I hope they don't try to hide it's a musical. As a musical and Broadway fan I hate to think of something being a musical being seen as a dirty little secret to keep under wraps. This trailer seems to have it both ways. Knowing the show, I can pick out defying gravity, but if someone doesn't know the show, I could see them just thinking it's a song for the movie or part of the score. I hope the next trailer is out and proud about it being a musical. The show was insanely popular. Many people love musicals. Cater to your base rather then trying to get people who don't like musicals to see it, because they may see it, but they won't enjoy it. You get the butts in seats and ticket sales, but bad word of mouth which hurts ticket sales in it's own way. I also would agree that someone would have to be living under a rock not to know Wicked was a musical, or to think that a movie set in the Wizard of Oz universe, which is primarily known for the iconic 1939 musical might have music, but people surprise me every day with not knowing something I consider common knowledge and I know there are a lot of blanks in my pop culture knowledge so who knows. 3 Link to comment
rmontro February 17 Share February 17 7 hours ago, Bill1978 said: While all of this is true, it is edited in a way that gives the impression they've decided to film a non-musical version of it. Fair point, I mean it was a novel first, after all. No reason they couldn't be adapting the novel as a story, is there? Link to comment
Sarah 103 February 17 Share February 17 19 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: You’d have to be living under a rock to not know Wicked is a musical. And DG is in the rrailer. 4 hours ago, MadyGirl1987 said: I also would agree that someone would have to be living under a rock not to know Wicked was a musical, or to think that a movie set in the Wizard of Oz universe, which is primarily known for the iconic 1939 musical might have music, but people surprise me every day with not knowing something I consider common knowledge and I know there are a lot of blanks in my pop culture knowledge so who knows. I read the comments section for the trailer on YouTube and you would be amazed at the number of people who have absolutely no idea the musical Wicked exists. I was really surprised because I thought even if people hadn't seen it, they would at least be vaguely aware of it as something that exists. 2 1 Link to comment
BetterButter March 22 Author Share March 22 Inside Wicked: Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo Talk Glinda and Elphaba Link to comment
tv echo April 12 Share April 12 (edited) ‘Wicked’ Lights Up CinemaCon with Ariana Grande, Cynthia Erivo and Director Jon M. Chu BY CHRIS GARDNER APRIL 10, 2024 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/wicked-movie-footage-ariana-grande-cynthia-erivo-1235871401/ Quote One year after debuting the first look of Wicked at CinemaCon, Universal Pictures brought members of the magical crew to Las Vegas on Wednesday to light up the festivities once again, with the team including filmmaker Jon M. Chu and his leading ladies, Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, who had the honor of introducing exclusive footage for theater owners. * * * The electric presentation — which featured on stage remarks from cast members such as Oscar winner Michelle Yeoh, Jeff Goldblum, Jonathan Bailey, Chu and producer Marc Platt — was telegraphed from the start as Colosseum staffers handed out Wicked lanyards to attendees when they walked into the theater. Other staffers instructed guests to be careful with tulips placed in the cupholder of each seat until they were asked to. Universal chief Donna Langley had the “privilege” of introducing Wicked team in a segment that showed how much faith the studio has in the film as they devoted 30 minutes of the two-hour presentation to the musical. “You all got a taste of this stunning film at last year’s CinemaCon,” said Langley. “And the world has loved this musical and celebrated it for more than 20 years. It’s proof that our future is unlimited — if that will give you a little bit of a tease. Thank you all for being here today. The wizard will see you now.” The theater then went dark and those lanyards lit up as did the tulips in shades of pink and green, going from flashing to bright in a stunning display. The screen then featured an oversized Oz, who delivered a custom voiceover for CinemaCon. “Who are you and why do you seek me? Behold CinemaConians,” Oz said. “A spectacle awaits that will glorify your palaces of light and sound this holiday season. … Remember there’s no place like Oz. There’s no place like Oz.” The wizard then appeared in actor form as Goldblum delivered an Oz-tastic opener for the team by being the first to come to the stage after Langley. He said that after a decades-long (or “longish”) career that has been him chased by dinosaurs and turned into a fly, he’s “never been a part of the magic that is this movie,” he said. He then corrected himself to say “movies” as the pics were filmed concurrently. He praised the creative team that constructed the set, created the props and delivering the magical world. “This whole experience has been, to me, in a word dreamy.” Chu and Platt then came out on stage with the latter saying that his own journey with the material began 25 years ago when he first read Gregory Maguire’s book, which he first envisioned as a film. But at the urging of composer collaborator Stephen Schwartz, it was conceived first as a stage musical. The rest is history. Chu then described himself as “a Silicon Valley” kid who “in a stroke of luck that now seems like destiny,” he happened to be in San Francisco at the time the musical was workshopped. “It imprinted itself on me permanently.” He said he related to the story of Elphaba, someone “who was judged for the way she looks.” It became a dream job when he was hired to direct it for the screen. * * * Erivo and Grande then came to the stage to rousing applause from the crowd, dressed in nods to their characters with Grande in an Oscar de la Renta flower dress with shades of pink while Erivo was decked out in Versace, wearing a green top, silver skirt and thigh high boots. Though they didn’t sing, Erivo noted that it was the first time that either of them have spoken publicly about Wicked. “This whole experience is absolutely impossible to put into words,” Grande added. She detailed her winding road to Wicked that started when she first saw the Broadway show at age 10. In that instant that she knew playing Glinda was her dream role. Erivo came to it later in life, at age 25, when she took herself on a solo date to see the show. “We have performed these songs publicly and privately and now here we are playing Elphaba and Glinda, two roles that have been so pivotal in our lives.” * * * Erivo stars as Elphaba to Grande’s Glinda opposite Yeoh as Madame Morrible, Bridgerton star Bailey as love interest Fiyero, Goldblum as the Wizard, Keala Settle as Miss Coddle, Ethan Slater as Boq, Marissa Bode as Nessarose, Bowen Yang as Pfannee, Bronwyn James as ShenShen and Adam James as Glinda’s father. During today’s presentation, it was announced that Peter Dinklage has taken on the role of Dr. Dillamond. * * * Wicked hits theaters in time for Thanksgiving on Nov. 27. A sequel, Wicked Part Two, is set to be released on Nov. 26, 2025. Edited April 12 by tv echo Link to comment
Spartan Girl May 15 Share May 15 Yeah, they definitely aren't hiding the fact that it's a musical. 2 Link to comment
Trini May 15 Share May 15 3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: Yeah, they definitely aren't hiding the fact that it's a musical. I'm glad they're not. Looks good, but then I remember they split this into two movies. But it's weird -- I saw another website that said they were hiding the musical part (like the last few musical movies), and then I'm like, 'Did we watch the same trailer??' 4 Link to comment
Irlandesa May 17 Share May 17 On 5/15/2024 at 11:09 AM, Spartan Girl said: Yeah, they definitely aren't hiding the fact that it's a musical. If I knew nothing about this movie, I don't think that trailer would give away that it's a musical. There's no visible signs of any characters singing and mostly no signs of them dancing except for one Ariana high kick. Link to comment
rmontro May 19 Share May 19 On 5/15/2024 at 3:32 PM, Trini said: I'm glad they're not. Looks good, but then I remember they split this into two movies. I'm certain that was sarcasm. Link to comment
Trini May 20 Share May 20 1 hour ago, rmontro said: I'm certain that was sarcasm. ??? Link to comment
rmontro May 20 Share May 20 1 minute ago, Trini said: ??? When she said they "definitely aren't hiding that it's a musical", IMO she was being sarcastic. Because no one in that trailer ever sings, it's all speaking scenes. There's music in the background, but they don't show any characters singing the songs. You can't tell it's a musical from that trailer. Link to comment
Trini May 20 Share May 20 15 minutes ago, rmontro said: You can't tell it's a musical from that trailer. I disagree. But I admit I might be biased since I already know it's a musical. There wasn't a lot of the singing in this first trailer, but enough for me. 1 Link to comment
Spartan Girl May 20 Share May 20 (edited) @rmontro I was not being sarcastic. They had the songs playing and sequences of dancing, no matter how minor. People can put two and two together. If not, their “Broadway nerd friends” will tell them. Like I said before, you’d have to be living under some kind of rock not to at least know about Wicked the Broadway musical, or heard about it in some way. 8 hours ago, Trini said: I disagree. But I admit I might be biased since I already know it's a musical. There wasn't a lot of the singing in this first trailer, but enough for me. Exactly. Edited May 20 by Spartan Girl 4 Link to comment
Trini May 20 Share May 20 It has the look, and vibes; also this is not non-musical behavior, -- LOL: 3 2 Link to comment
rmontro May 20 Share May 20 11 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: @rmontro I was not being sarcastic. They had the songs playing and sequences of dancing, no matter how minor. Oh, okay, my mistake. Thanks for letting me know. I've seen Wicked on stage, so obviously I know it's a musical, but not everybody pays attention to musicals. It's also possible that they could have made an adaptation of the novel. So I thought it was an odd choice not to show anyone singing in the trailer. Link to comment
JustHereForFood May 25 Share May 25 I don't even understand what the issue with showing/not showing if a movie is musical is. If somebody goes to watch a movie without looking up info about it and then is disappointed, it's their problem. 2 Link to comment
tv echo July 11 Share July 11 (edited) By moving their release date to November 22, Wicked avoided competing against Moana 2, but will now compete against Gladiator II... ‘Wicked’ Moves Up Release Date, Will No Longer Open Against ‘Moana 2’ By Rebecca Rubin July 1, 2024 https://variety.com/2024/film/news/wicked-moves-up-release-date-thanksgiving-1236058620/ Quote “Wicked,” Universal’s film adaptation of the hit Broadway show, is landing in theaters on Nov. 22 — five days ahead of schedule. It was originally supposed to open on Nov. 27, the same day as Disney’s “Moana 2.” On its new release date, “Wicked” is smartly avoiding a box office battle royale against another movie musical that appeals to a similarly female demographic. Now, “Wicked” will get a jump on the Thanksgiving holiday, but it won’t be completely devoid of competition. The film is set to debut on the same day as Paramount and Ridley Scott’s historical epic “Gladiator II,” though there’s presumably much less overlap in the audience and thus, a threat of cannibalization. Paul Mescal Says Gladiator II and Wicked Same-Day Release Is New 'Barbenheimer,' Calls Event 'Glicked' By Tommy McArdle July 10, 2024 https://people.com/paul-mescal-gladiator-ii-wicked-new-barbenheimer-glicked-8675825 Quote "Wickdiator doesn't really roll off the tongue does it? I think my preference would probably be Glicked," Mescal, 28, recently told Entertainment Tonight while discussing the upcoming same-day theatrical release for his new movie, Gladiator II, as well as Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande's film adaptation of Wicked on Nov. 22. * * * "If it has a similar effect to what it did for Barbie and Oppenheimer, it would be amazing, 'cause I think the films couldn't be more polar opposites and it worked in that context previously," Mescal told the outlet. "So fingers crossed people come out and see both films on opening weekend." Edited July 11 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
chitowngirl July 17 Share July 17 (edited) I hate that they (whoever “they” may be!) are trying to make this a thing. There was anticipation and buzz about Barbie and Oppenheimer and they just happened to be opening the same day. Is there buzz about Gladiator 2? Were fans clambering for a sequel? Gladiator barely registered on my radar, so maybe I am missing something… Edited July 17 by chitowngirl 1 Link to comment
Palimelon July 17 Share July 17 (edited) Quote I hate that they (whoever “they” may be!) are trying to make this a thing. I hate that they made Barbenheimer a thing. But I guess in the world we live in, everything needs a buzz-worthy zeitgeist-grabbing word that can be hash-tagged on social media. Edited July 17 by Palimelon 3 Link to comment
lasu August 7 Share August 7 I went with 4 middle aged hetero guys (I'm a middle aged woman) to see Deadpool and Wolverine and they showed a trailer for Wicked, which didn't show anyone singing. Since I'd read discussion here beforehand, I thought this was an excellent group study. I asked afterwards, and only the married guy knew about Wicked and assumed it was musical, but said he would have believed me if I had told him this was a non musical version. The other three were surprised when I told them it was a musical, and had never heard of the Broadway play (one did when I reminded him of a story about when I went to go see it). So to answer the questions posed earlier in this thread, yes, there are definitely people who do not know the original musical, and no, you don't get this movie is a musical. But I can also safely say this group is NOT the target audience, lol. 3 1 Link to comment
rmontro August 8 Share August 8 On 8/7/2024 at 9:17 AM, lasu said: So to answer the questions posed earlier in this thread, yes, there are definitely people who do not know the original musical, and no, you don't get this movie is a musical. But I can also safely say this group is NOT the target audience, lol. Thanks for doing the research. It reminds me a bit about the discussions over the Joker sequel on whether or not it is a musical (I'm still not sure what the answer is). As to why it makes a difference, I mean some people just don't like musicals. I do, but some don't. Link to comment
Sarah 103 August 13 Share August 13 I thought I'd share this clip from the movie's official YouTube account. I'm excited because "Dancing Through Life" is one of my favorite songs in the show and I'm now officially excited to see what he does with it. 2 Link to comment
rmontro August 13 Share August 13 17 hours ago, Sarah 103 said: I'm excited because "Dancing Through Life" is one of my favorite songs in the show and I'm now officially excited to see what he does with it. The thing I like about Dancing Through Life though, is how all the other characters have little parts throughout it that build their story. 4 Link to comment
Dr.OO7 September 2 Share September 2 I didn't learn until watching the Paralympics yesterday that the actress playing Nessarose is also wheelchair-bound. I wonder how they'll do the scene where Elphaba gives her the power to walk again? Link to comment
Bookworm 1979 September 2 Share September 2 30 minutes ago, Dr.OO7 said: I didn't learn until watching the Paralympics yesterday that the actress playing Nessarose is also wheelchair-bound. I wonder how they'll do the scene where Elphaba gives her the power to walk again? A lot of people who use wheelchairs are ambulatory users (meaning they can also walk). My husband uses a wheelchair, and when he was a kid he could use a walker to get around. He switched to a wheelchair when he got older because he could get around a lot faster using it! I'm not sure if the actress playing Nessarose is an ambulatory user or not. I've also noticed the term "wheelchair bound" being used a lot, and I hate it! If my husband didn't have his wheelchair, he wouldn't be able to go anywhere. He's not bound to the wheelchair, it gives him freedom to get around. I'm not disabled myself, this is what I have learned from talking to my husband and other disabled people. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk! 3 3 1 Link to comment
DisneyBoy September 12 Share September 12 I remain deeply weirded out by whatever is going on with Arianna's appearance in this film. I hope she is well. She doesn't seem to be. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 October 29 Share October 29 (edited) I still don't understand why they decided to make this 2 movies. I like Wicked but, the good numbers (IMO) are in Act 1. No Good Deed is the only song of note in Act 2 (IMO). Edited October 29 by Morrigan2575 4 Link to comment
ebk57 October 29 Share October 29 3 hours ago, lasu said: Full trailer done Lego-style. I finally saw the show 6ish years ago and stand by my theory that I would have loved it when I was 15. However, I'm far past 15. I have no desire to see the movie. However... if the movie was done with Legos, I'd be there in a heartbeat! That was great. 2 Link to comment
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