S13.E05: Driving Miss Crazy

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, hottesthw said:

I agree. Between having Louie as her support to walk away (whether she is right or wrong, someone has to be strong enough to just end it), and with her parents being gone she doesn’t have that constant guilt over her of making things ok with her brother for them, Teresa is in her best frame of mind right now to just leave these people behind.

I watched earlier seasons they aired this week and while she is stupid as all hell and exhausting, I can see now Theresa’s frustration with her family and this show. The show was “her” thing with her friends (Manzo/Laurita). After 1 season not only did her SIL inject herself into the show, Melissa went hard into making herself a star. She trash talked T from day 1. She was determined to shine brighter than the others. Then in comes the Walikies doing the same thing. Melissa and her music career, Kathy and her desserts. Tre just kind of organically fell into all her cookbook crap (flipping the table launched her into stardom). These others saw it and jumped on the wagon and without apparently being all that close to Tre before the cameras rolled. Now can’t say I blame them, I mean why not. But watching it back now after all these years the Gorgas were quite determined to dim Tres light and make theirs shine brighter. 
 

All that to say, despite being wrong 90% of the time in how she handles things, Tre needs to get away from those people. They’ll all be happier in the end. 

I agree with you and was typing up a response similar, but your's is more to the point than mine was.

Joe and Melissa made no secrets about wanting to steal that fame/spotlight from Teresa by their actions and comments from Day 1 on Season 3, when they showed up.

They wanted the reality fame and all that went with it - now they got it - bad family situations and all.  Are they happy that this thirst for fame essentially drove them further apart from their sister/sister-in-law?  No one could predict all of the events that have transpired since they appeared on the show, however, anyone could have predicted that appearing on a show that was Teresa's "thing" and coming in hot and heavy for Teresa would have a permanent negative effect on an already tenuous relationship.

 

[Hedgehog2022]

5 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

In 1980 I learned how to drive in a 1975 thunderbird....that car had a front end that was a block long.  

Yeah…most boomers learned to drive in awkward gas guzzlers…but I don’t recall any car being as big and cumbersome as that monster Antonia was driving. Surely they have something in the medium size range for a 16 year old to learn to drive in. They look like a family that has three cars or more.

[ichbin]

On 3/9/2023 at 10:34 AM, amarante said:

Gia is a senior at Rutgers and evidently has an internship at an immigration firm -  Martinez Immigration

The attorney resembles a real housewife so it's a good fit - check out the employee page where they are all dressed in hot pink including what seems to be the only male employee.

https://www.martinezimmigration.net

Wow! Looks more like a group photo I would expect to see on a page for a  place that does aesthetic stuff but certainly not a law firm.  Interesting too that they have Gia, an intern,  listed, along with her photo with the rest of the staff.  Gee, I wonder why.....  

Edited March 10, 2023 by ichbin
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[sugarbaker design]

On 3/8/2023 at 1:25 PM, snarts said:

They declined. At one point are they forced to take ownership over their actions that have only driven/increased the rift?  Talking constant shit about Teresa and her family on social media, to every freaking media outlet and continually rejecting invites to milestone events show me that they're only interested in continuing the feud.

Right!  And even though Juicy is a piece of shit, you can't expect Gia and her sisters to be cool with you constantly name-calling their father.  He's their father for God's sake!  Joe and Melissa are outraged over every decision Teresa makes.  It's time to cut bait.

[Chatty Cake]

7 minutes ago, ichbin said:

Wow! Looks more like a group photo I would expect to see on a page for a  place that does stuff but certainly not a law firm.  Interesting too that they have Gia, an intern,  listed, along with her photo with the rest of the staff.  Gee, I wonder why.....  

Is it normal to only have 1 intern? Because no other interns are listed.

 

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, amarante said:

Gia is a senior at Rutgers and evidently has an internship at an immigration firm -  Martinez Immigration

The attorney resembles a real housewife so it's a good fit - check out the employee page where they are all dressed in hot pink including what seems to be the only male employee.

https://www.martinezimmigration.net

I'm assuming that Gia's internship is a remote work program, unless she's moving away from NJ for the summer.  According to the website, the law firm is a member of the Dallas Bar Association, has an award for the "Best Immigration Lawyer" in Plano, and the address listed is in Allen, Texas.  

Good for her, though - she has always expressed in interest in immigration law ever since Joe got deported (through his own stupidity, laziness and arrogance).

Edited March 9, 2023 by njbchlover

[amarante]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I'm assuming that Gia's internship is a remote work program, unless she's moving away from NJ for the summer.  According to the website, the law firm is a member of the Dallas Bar Association, have an award for the "Best Immigration Lawyer" in Plano, and the address listed is in Allen, Texas.  

Good for her, though - she has always expressed in interest in immigration law ever since Joe got deported (through his own stupidity, laziness and arrogance).

They offer "virtual" appointments in 50 states.

For the most part immigration law is just filling out forms which can be done by a low level employee. 

Someone answer the "virtual" phone and takes down the basic information to open a case file.

[realityplease]

6 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Is it normal to only have 1 intern? Because no other interns are listed.

 

The norm is that "interns" are law students on their way to becoming an attorney. Gia's job title was no doubt made up specially for her - as she's the only one with that designation at that firm - & it doesn't match the typical use of "intern" at the typical law firm.  In fact, she's not an attorney, not an intern/law student, not a paralegal (typically trained & certified), not an intake clerk, or like any of the others at that firm.  Mostly a paper-shuffling practice.  She's hired on at a one-attorney firm who employs dozens & dozens of helpers at her immigration mill in Texas. 

And that picture, yikes! Dressed all in pink with at least one of them all boobs-out!  Not your typical professional look.  Looking professional doesn't mean looking like the world's oldest profession!

What'll Gia do there? Fetch coffee, watch or 'help" the others. The main attorney will use her for publicity & maybe try to get Joe Guidice back to America. (Doubtful it can be done, but who knows?)

Edited March 10, 2023 by realityplease

[Impalace]

18 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Why did Teresa leave with Jennifer?  Doesn’t she have a mind of her own?  Oh, I guess that was a stupid question.  I don’t know how Bill takes Jennifer.  She doesn’t shut up.

Because she didn't want to be there anyway and it gave her a reason to leave. 

[kristen111]

4 minutes ago, Impalace said:

Because she didn't want to be there anyway and it gave her a reason to leave. 

Ok.  To me it seems liking she’s taking sides.  One day they like someone, the next day they hate.  I can’t keep track with this bunch.   I have watched this show from Day one, but stopped watching when Teresa went to prison.  I came back when Joe was sent to Italy.  So much has changed.  No more relatives, and Loooie came on the scene, plus the new younger girls.

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by kristen111

[kristen111]

6 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I agree with you and was typing up a response similar, but your's is more to the point than mine was.

Joe and Melissa made no secrets about wanting to steal that fame/spotlight from Teresa by their actions and comments from Day 1 on Season 3, when they showed up.

They wanted the reality fame and all that went with it - now they got it - bad family situations and all.  Are they happy that this thirst for fame essentially drove them further apart from their sister/sister-in-law?  No one could predict all of the events that have transpired since they appeared on the show, however, anyone could have predicted that appearing on a show that was Teresa's "thing" and coming in hot and heavy for Teresa would have a permanent negative effect on an already tenuous relationship.

 

What a GREAT post.  You hit the nails on the head.  Now, Melissa has mentioned the “Hamptons” twice already.  She’s been out there and wants to be there.  Maybe for some connections being such a Jersey Star that she thinks she is.

[Chatty Cake]

6 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I agree with you and was typing up a response similar, but your's is more to the point than mine was.

Joe and Melissa made no secrets about wanting to steal that fame/spotlight from Teresa by their actions and comments from Day 1 on Season 3, when they showed up.

They wanted the reality fame and all that went with it - now they got it - bad family situations and all.  Are they happy that this thirst for fame essentially drove them further apart from their sister/sister-in-law?  No one could predict all of the events that have transpired since they appeared on the show, however, anyone could have predicted that appearing on a show that was Teresa's "thing" and coming in hot and heavy for Teresa would have a permanent negative effect on an already tenuous relationship.

 

Yes, Melissa even reached out to Danielle Staub hoping to get in. I think a big point of contention was that when Teresa got on the show, she didn’t invite Melissa to film with her. 
Neither side has moved on. It’s time to stop this crap of pretending like they want to make up. 

[JAYJAY1979]

I loved the family scenes with the newbies.  I get flashbacks of Teresa and Gia when seeing Danielle with Valentina.

Melissa/Jennifer getting along is bizarre

It's interesting that Melissa's daughter Antonia is more mature then her parents... same with Gia/Gabriella with their parents.

 

[ZettaK]

On 3/8/2023 at 11:36 AM, twilightzone said:

My takeaway from this episode.  We won't be seeing Jackie after this season.  She said she was filming constantly - but was barely even shown as a "friend".   She must have sense that Danielle was a huge threat - and she's right.

BRAVO has been hit (Garcelle, Sutton) and miss (Diana, Leah, Eboni) with casting.  But they made the right call with replacing boring Jackie with Danielle.

 

Yes! I mentioned the same earlier. Jackie went full attack on Danielle because she felt threatened about being replaced by her. And she was right! She was demoted. 

Jennifer Fessler shouldn't be on a HS show if she cares about what her neighbors think of her.

Edited March 10, 2023 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

9 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I agree with you and was typing up a response similar, but your's is more to the point than mine was.

Joe and Melissa made no secrets about wanting to steal that fame/spotlight from Teresa by their actions and comments from Day 1 on Season 3, when they showed up.

They wanted the reality fame and all that went with it - now they got it - bad family situations and all.  Are they happy that this thirst for fame essentially drove them further apart from their sister/sister-in-law?  No one could predict all of the events that have transpired since they appeared on the show, however, anyone could have predicted that appearing on a show that was Teresa's "thing" and coming in hot and heavy for Teresa would have a permanent negative effect on an already tenuous relationship.

 

I don't think the Gorgas cared about damaging family relations. They wanted the fame, and they used the family feud as their storyline for the duration of the show. Teresa invited the Gorgas to events which were filmed (you see them in group scenes in S1 and S2), but Bravo was not interested in them until they pushed the family feud by sending messages to Danielle Staub about it. 

Edited March 10, 2023 by ZettaK

[MsMalin]

It kind of bothers me that first Via was criticized for not having a job, as if being onscreen for a few minutes meant that she does nothing else. Then when it is discovered she is an intern there is criticism of her duties. Does anyone here really know her duties? Plus what do you expect of an intern...handling a major case? You don't start at the top as an intern for Gods sake. Its criticizing her just to bash her with no facts to back it up. 

[MaggieG]

3 hours ago, MsMalin said:

It kind of bothers me that first Via was criticized for not having a job, as if being onscreen for a few minutes meant that she does nothing else. Then when it is discovered she is an intern there is criticism of her duties. Does anyone here really know her duties? Plus what do you expect of an intern...handling a major case? You don't start at the top as an intern for Gods sake. Its criticizing her just to bash her with no facts to back it up. 

Yeah I don't care for Gia as I think she is her mom's mini-me, but good for her for going to college and interning in a field that interests her. 

I also loved Rachel's grandma. When I get to her age, I also plan on not giving a shit lol.

 

[ichbin]

19 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Is it normal to only have 1 intern? Because no other interns are listed.  

 

Is it normal to have headshots of interns on the staff page of a business website?  Then again, some of the choices on that website were unique compared to any of the law firm sites I have ever seen. Vive la différence!

 

16 hours ago, Impalace said:

Because she didn't want to be there anyway and it gave her a reason to leave. 

Ding! Ding! Ding!  Not only did she get to leave, she got to look supportive of a friend.  Actually one of T's better moves over the years.

 

14 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I get flashbacks of Teresa and Gia when seeing Danielle with Valentina.

Except this new kid seems to actually deliver somewhat in the talent department beyond looking pretty and striking a pose.  I still cringe remembering scenes like young Gia's acting audition and singing to her uncle while being filmed and ultimately broadcast.  If Gia is pulling a Bravo salary today, good for her after the earlier exploitation.  

 

12 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Jackie went full attack on Danielle because she felt threatened about being replaced by her. And she was right! She was demoted. 

I never thought Jackie fit into this franchise.  The casting department seems to have gone back to the original drawing board which is so far turning out to have been a wise move.  

[RecoveringLawyer]

22 hours ago, realityplease said:

The norm is that "interns" are law students on their way to becoming an attorney. Gia's job title was no doubt made up specially for her - as she's the only one with that designation at that firm - & it doesn't match the typical use of "intern" at the typical law firm.  In fact, she's not an attorney, not an intern/law student, not a paralegal (typically trained & certified), not an intake clerk, or like any of the others at that firm.  Mostly a paper-shuffling practice.  She's hired on at a one-attorney firm who employs dozens & dozens of helpers at her immigration mill in Texas. 

And that picture, yikes! Dressed all in pink with at least one of them all boobs-out!  Not your typical professional look.  Looking professional doesn't mean looking like the world's oldest profession!

What'll Gia do there? Fetch coffee, watch or 'help" the others. The main attorney will use her for publicity & maybe try to get Joe Guidice back to America. (Doubtful it can be done, but who knows?)

Wow -- so much judgment here.  As my name indicates, I am a recovering lawyer, who now works with law students seeking employment.

1.  Titles are free.  Employers choose what to call their interns, paralegals, legal assistants, law clerks, etc.  And truly "law clerk" is the one that is generally reserved for law students, not "intern".  I've worked with 100s of law students who interned at various legal offices (firms, prosecutors, judges) and are listed on their resume as "interns".

2.  Paralegals are not "typically trained and certified."  That is true only for some jurisdictions.  For the most part, paralegal certificate programs are money-printing machines for universities.  Do they give you skills that you wouldn't automatically have?  Yes.  Can you be hired as a paralegal without one?  Absolutely.  I was a paralegal right after college for two years and didn't have any certifications.  I was one of 15 paralegals at the firm and only 1 had a certificate.  Most of us were there bridging the gap between undergrad and law school.  That's often, but not always, the way the job gets filled. Government agencies have "paralegal specialist" positions, but even those don't require a special training or certification.  Most people learn that on the job.  You just have to be somewhat intelligent. 

3.  I don't like the pink short blazer dresses for the whole staff, and I think that one girl needs a tank underneath, but seriously?  This is what we are commenting on in 2023? They can wear whatever the f they want to.  If you don't like it, don't hire them.  I bet they are doing pretty well for themselves.

4.  What will Gia do?  Who knows.  Yes, she may get coffee (if she's there in person) or "watch/help" -- that is how people learn.  She'll probably fill out forms (using older forms as go-bys), watch hearings and client meetings, etc.  That's all anyone expects an undergrad intern to do! 

Also, I've seen plenty of smaller firms that have staff pictures on the website.  The other extreme is just the name partner's picture.  There aren't rules on that!

[realityplease]

RecoveringLawyer:  I don't know Texas law or what state you're in.  I thought my earlier post indicated that may vary state to state (& if I didn't, sorry) & wrote what is "typical."  In CA, paralegals MUST be certified.  You can't bill them out as paralegals or present them as such, unless they are. Other states too. (New York? Illinois?)  The CA statutes that require this go back a few decades but it wasn't always the case. (Don't know how long ago you were an uncertified paralegal or where - but this is evolving in various states as time marches on & as legal malpractice law develops.)  Moreover, Gia's firm is a 1-attorney firm with dozens of aides that claims to do work in 50 states, so they'd be bound to use certified paralegals for California work & in states where certification is required.

I believe I said law students are typically "interns" & think you said that too. "Law clerk" as used in CA, generally refers to a law school graduate - though they may be awaiting bar results or haven't taken the bar yet.  Even some suspended lawyers serve as law clerks. In this category too, are law clerks to state & federal, appellate & Supreme Court judges, as well as at many law firms.  Not to say the term isn't used loosely but some firms are very careful about titling so they don't raise false expectations, client confusion, & issues later.  (Just like sole practitioners who "associate" several firms together on their letterhead - hoping clients will think they're a bigger firm - until they ALL get sued for the error of just one. Fuzzy titles are fine too - until the firm is sued because of some error - & the client says he thought he was dealing with or got information from a practicing attorney - who turns out to be an intern, law clerk, or paralegal.

I wasn't denigrating what Gia's tasks will be.  You gotta crawl before you can walk.  Many lawyers start as interns, clerks, paralegals, court clerks & what have you - then get the bug to go to law school from that.  For others, it's enough to get them out & into some other field.  For yet others, it's enough for them to remain at the job they're at.

I really didn't mean to do anything other than snark. It's really not that important to the show.  And yes, I do snark on what people wear.  It's my first impression of them & I think it matters.  If it doesn't matter to you - that's cool. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by realityplease

[RecoveringLawyer]

WAY O/T

Going way o/t, but California is the only state that regulates paralegals. UT and WA have some other provisions for the limited practice of law where paralegals can legally do more than most paralegals.  I was in DC, and have practiced in NY, DC, VA, MD, and NC -- no one had any rules about paralegals. 

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/paralegals/profession-information/educational-information-for-paralegals/

Also, i meant to type that law students who had worked at places as undergrads had called themselves interns.  Once in law school, it's a free-for-all as to "intern, legal intern, law clerk, etc."  After graduation, if they are a law clerk, it's typical a judicial clerkship, although some government agencies also call baby lawyers "law clerks."

[realityplease]

1 hour ago, RecoveringLawyer said:

WAY O/T

Going way o/t, but California is the only state that regulates paralegals. UT and WA have some other provisions for the limited practice of law where paralegals can legally do more than most paralegals.  I was in DC, and have practiced in NY, DC, VA, MD, and NC -- no one had any rules about paralegals. 

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/paralegals/profession-information/educational-information-for-paralegals/

Also, i meant to type that law students who had worked at places as undergrads had called themselves interns.  Once in law school, it's a free-for-all as to "intern, legal intern, law clerk, etc."  After graduation, if they are a law clerk, it's typical a judicial clerkship, although some government agencies also call baby lawyers "law clerks."

Thank you. Apparently, only CA "certifies" paralegals. But WA & UT have requirements even if they don't go as far as licensing or certification.  In Florida, there's no certification per se, but said most employers want new hires to pass the Certified Paralegal Exam (whatever the heck that is!)  AZ, S. Dakota, Maine, & N. Mexico also, purportedly, have some oversight too. IL has a paralegal code of ethics. WI requires attorney supervision.

Don't really care - Gia isn't a paralegal - or law student or law clerk. Call her an "intern" or call her a "trainee," she's going to bounce around the firm hopefully in Texas (& not a thousand miles away on zoom) so she can SEE for herself what goes on in an immigration mill & gain some work experience.  Should take her mind off the Gorgas!

Edited March 10, 2023 by realityplease

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, realityplease said:

Thank you. Apparently, only CA "certifies" paralegals. But WA & UT have requirements even if they don't go as far as licensing or certification.  In Florida, there's no certification per se, but said most employers want new hires to pass the Certified Paralegal Exam (whatever the heck that is!)  AZ, S. Dakota, Maine, & N. Mexico also, purportedly, have some oversight too. IL has a paralegal code of ethics. WI requires attorney supervision.

Don't really care - Gia isn't a paralegal - or law student or law clerk. Call her an "intern" or call her a "trainee," she's going to bounce around the firm hopefully in Texas (& not a thousand miles away on zoom) so she can SEE for herself what goes on in an immigration mill & gain some work experience.  Should take her mind off the Gorgas!

No, Gia is none of those (law clerk, paralegal, or law student). She said that she would like to go to Rutgers Law School after she graduates in May (from Rutgers) with degrees in Criminal Justice, and Psychology. I guess she can be called an intern, although I know law students are normally called interns in law offices, or similar positions.

Edited March 11, 2023 by ZettaK

[TexasGal]

Hey all - let’s move on from Gia’s internship.  It was not part of the episode.  

[ZettaK]

Teresa and Joe Gorga have an unhealthy relationship. They are too possessive of each other. They disapprove and are jealous of each other's spouses. They both claim they "took them away from them", and their relationship is not what it used to be (when they were young, and single). Teresa doesn't like Melissa, and Joe Gorga never liked any of Teresa’s husbands. Joe was fine with Teresa before she met Louie, when she was not in a serious relationship according to what Gia said on this episode. 

[kristen111]

On 3/10/2023 at 10:38 PM, ZettaK said:

Teresa and Joe Gorga have an unhealthy relationship. They are too possessive of each other. They disapprove and are jealous of each other's spouses. They both claim they "took them away from them", and their relationship is not what it used to be (when they were young, and single). Teresa doesn't like Melissa, and Joe Gorga never liked any of Teresa’s husbands. Joe was fine with Teresa before she met Louie, when she was not in a serious relationship according to what Gia said on this episode. 

Unfortunately, lots of siblings don’t get along for certain reasons.  Teresa called him and they both said “love you”.  Joe didn’t go to her bubble party only to keep the feud going.  How long can this go on?  It’s like a dead end and very boring, even Melissa’s phony tears.  So sick of Melissa’s Family Family bullshit.  Joe better get a job and pay his bills.

[Salacious Kitty]

Do we have concrete evidence that creditors are going after Joey, or are we just basing this on past history?

[SweetieDarling]

There's this:

 https://www.allabouttrh.com/2023/02/22/joe-gorga-hit-with-110k-lawsuit-over-construction-of-new-franklin-lakes-mansion-as-melissa-reportedly-faces-the-chopping-block-on-rhonj/

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As we previously reported, Joe was initally sued for $30k in November 2022 by a contractor who accused him of not paying construction costs on his new home. All About the Tea was the first to report on this lawsuit.

The U.S. Sun reports that County Concrete Corporation has amended its lawsuit against Joe and is now suing him for $110,972.58.

In the amended complaint, County Concrete Corporation claims they provided building materials to Joe from September 2021 to January 2022, totaling $110,972. 58.

 

[Salacious Kitty]

20 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

There's this:

 https://www.allabouttrh.com/2023/02/22/joe-gorga-hit-with-110k-lawsuit-over-construction-of-new-franklin-lakes-mansion-as-melissa-reportedly-faces-the-chopping-block-on-rhonj/

 

Thanks. I pay so little attention to the Gorgas that I missed it. 😁

[ZettaK]

Another source regarding the Gorga lawsuit. Also, an exterior view of the Gorga house. 

[Stats Queen]

8 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Another source regarding the Gorga lawsuit. Also, an exterior view of the Gorga house. 

not surprised about him not paying, he, just like his ex BIL business never seemed on the up and up.

The house may be big, but I think it is just ugly on the outside and the front door and porch don’t match the rest of the house 

Edited March 13, 2023 by Stats Queen

[sistermagpie]

7 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Another source regarding the Gorga lawsuit. Also, an exterior view of the Gorga house. 

Is that the finished house? It's really unattractive imo. It looks like a doodle of a house.

Edited March 13, 2023 by sistermagpie

[Baltimore Betty]

4 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:

It looks like a doodle of a house.

It looks like a medical arts building in a historic town.

[Genius]

We finally get taglines last week, and of course Jennifer Aydin's makes no sense.  "Payback's a bitch, so start barking"?  First, who is she addressing this to?  Second, payback for what?  Third, if she's the one giving payback, that makes HER the bitch, so SHE should start barking.  Right?  She didn't think this through.  So stupid.

Edited March 13, 2023 by Genius

[kristen111]

6 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

not surprised about him not paying, he, just like his ex BIL business never seemed on the up and up.

The house may be big, but I think it is just ugly on the outside and the front door and porch don’t match the rest of the house 

I read it on Yahoo News.  Is that reputable?  What’s with these gigantic houses they all have to have?  Besides being big, it’s ugly IMO.  What was with the big house they left?  Didn’t pay the mortgage?  I believe he owes creditors.  They are all for show.

[Chatty Cake]

That house is so big and ugly! Damn these people are stupid!

[Stats Queen]

3 hours ago, kristen111 said:

I read it on Yahoo News.  Is that reputable?  What’s with these gigantic houses they all have to have?  Besides being big, it’s ugly IMO.  What was with the big house they left?  Didn’t pay the mortgage?  I believe he owes creditors.  They are all for show.

I have found Yahoo News to be reputable. I think they get many stories from multiple news outlets.

[kristen111]

7 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

It looks like a medical arts building in a historic town.

OMG I can’t stop laughing.  Good one.

[Misslindsey]

I may not be remembering correctly, but wasn't there a man last season or maybe the season before that was angry that Joe Gorga didn't pay him for something? I do not know if the guy's wife was a friend of or something. I thought that Teresa was somewhat friendly with the wife (was she Teresa's realtor or something?) and said that the guys should work it out between themselves. The Gorga's were scandalized that Teresa did not defend them to said guy and his wife. Joe threw a fit and I believe the guy backed down. None of it is really that surprising with Joe. Again, I could not be remembering the whole thing correctly, but it was lather, rinse, repeat with this group.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Misslindsey

[Chatty Cake]

5 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I may not be remembering correctly, but wasn't there a man last season or maybe the season before that was angry that Joe Gorga didn't pay him for something? I do not know if the guy's wife was a friend of or something. I thought that Teresa was somewhat friendly with the wife (was she Teresa's realtor or something?) and said that the guys should work it out between themselves. The Gorga's were scandalized that Teresa did not defend them to said guy and his wife. Joe threw a fit and I believe the guy backed down. None of it is really that surprising with Joe. Again, I could not be remembering the whole thing correctly, but it was lather, rinse, repeat with this group.

Thats exactly what happened. I do think the producers had a hand in this. Similar to when Kim G. showed up at Melissas with an attorney that was on the Guidices case. 

[kristen111]

Teresa living the life in Bali.  Melissa must be seething.  Is there a reason Teresa went there?

[Marley]

Joe Gorga has always been shady. I still think he was doing almost what Giudice was but saw Giudice get caught and somehow saved himself. The Gorgas are fakes.

The house is hideous. Typical Joe Gorga house. The windows are fucked up and stupid annd what’s with the roof? Inside the big staircase basically ends right where the door opens it’s so dumb lol.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Marley

[Impalace]

9 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Teresa living the life in Bali.  Melissa must be seething.  Is there a reason Teresa went there?

Louis sister lives there I read. 

[hottesthw]

2 hours ago, Marley said:

 

Joe Gorga has always been shady. I still think he was doing almost what Giudice was but saw Giudice get caught and somehow saved himself. The Gorgas are fakes.

 

I’ve said this from Day 1. Joe Gorga learned real quick now to walk an almost straight line when Juicy got caught. Probably why now he’s not paying his bills in time. 

13 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Thats exactly what happened. I do think the producers had a hand in this. Similar to when Kim G. showed up at Melissas with an attorney that was on the Guidices case. 

I more than ever believe the producers had a part in that because that woman and her husband now have their own show on HGTV with her vowing to never go back on HW. That whole story line was just stupid and another attempt to give the Gorgas a story line and possibly break in Melissa’s replacement (allegedly), 

[ZettaK]

It was reported back then that the woman (the realtor) filmed to become a HW (but she eventually didn't become one). She was seen a lot that season. Her husband was one of the people Joe Gorga didn't pay for some service, Joe admitted it, but he said they would settle the debt off the show.