S38.E19: The End of the Ride

[shantown]

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A brutal final elimination sends one pair out of the game just before the last push of the final.

Airs Wednesday, February 15, at 8:00 pm eastern on MTV

[DEL901]

If only they can eliminate Bananas and Jordan can get eliminated and Aneesa and Nany run the final leg together.  

[AntFTW]

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[DEL901]

Tori and Devin deserved the win after winning all but the eating legs. 

And very classy, sharing the wealth.  

[mojoween]

Oh Olivia you poor girl.  Five fractures goddamn.

And once again, the mid-game interviews gave away the ending.  Not that I mind, because that was very satisfactory.

The ones who win it deserve it, John. Full stop.

[DEL901]

And I think Olivia looks a lot more attractive without makeup, even with two black eyes. 

[shantown]

I find it strangely heartwarming that Tori and Devin opted to give everyone $38,000. They've never been my favorites, but that was a solid move and I I like that the long-time friendships between of all of them likely played into that decision. 

A little ticked that final pretty much came down to a regular ol' elimination challenge, but at least there were a lot of cool looking lights?

[DEL901]

According to Devin, that challenge took five hours, two of that in the last room. 

[snarts]

Happy that Tori & Devin won. Bored with the three episode final. It was stupid dragged out format, basically coming down to an elimation in the end. The whole 100 hour thing was dumb. They sure had a lot of down time seeing as it jumped from hour 69 to hour 82 after the helicopter mission. Then they had 13-14 hours of rest at the campsite before the final challenge. Guessing thats so it would be more dramatic at night under the lights.

Admitting a bit of a bias against Nany because she annoys the crap out of me but I thought targeting Aneesa's ankle and then immediately feigning sympathy was super shady. Nany'd be the first one crying foul if Aneesa had targeted her injured knee. 

Speaking of shady, Jordan suddenly being all "my girl" once he realized Tori was going to win half a million dollars...

[AntFTW]

Wow! Just wow!

Tori and Devin deserved the win. They absolutely murdered this final. It may take me some time to get used to Devin being a Challenge Champ though lol

[Never Again]

I know it’s wrong but I really enjoyed watching Johnny cry

[AntFTW]

1 hour ago, shantown said:

A little ticked that final pretty much came down to a regular ol' elimination challenge, but at least there were a lot of cool looking lights?

I... did... not like that.

Honestly, I thought it was kinda lame. It kinda took the thrill out of it for me.

[Lantern7]

"Ride or Dies: Fuck It, Someone Had To Win"

[Drogo]

So Nany blew the final puzzle because she didn’t do “her job” (complicated as it is to separate Purple from NotPurple…) and still everyone there talks about what a badass Challenger she is.

[jsm1125]

I’m mostly just looking forward to Laurel vs. Michelle at the reunion. I was hoping against hope before the season aired that they’d work together 😢

[leocadia]

1 hour ago, snarts said:

admitting a bit of a bias against Nany because she annoys the crap out of me but I thought targeting Aneesa's ankle and then immediately feigning sympathy was super shady. Nany'd be the first one crying foul if Aneesa had targeted her injured knee. 

Honestly, I guess it's a plus that she was upfront about it, but I found it pretty distasteful that she considered targeting her opponent's injury as part of a winning strategy.  She may be too young to remember it, but I hope she gets a million copies of The Karate Kid sent to her.  "Go for the ankle, Nany!"  I'm just glad this whole season of "It's Nany's year to win!" is over.  I really, really thought they were setting up for that ending so I was majorly pleased that it didn't go that way.  I have no problem if she were to earn her win, but it  seemed like she felt entitled to it.  This is not a participation event.

I was also super happy that Jordan had no way of blaming Aneesa for their loss.  He lost in his matches against Johnny while Aneesa actually got points.  He only had to make one and they would've been in the final.  I don't think he would have been as gracious if the situation were reversed.

Ccongrats to Tori and Devin.  They really did seem like the most cohesive team and they deserved their win.

[AntFTW]

Devin and Tori balanced each other out perfectly, because they know what they're good at and they stay in their lanes for the most part.

I love Nany. I wanted this for her so bad, but she was useless in that cinder block puzzle.

As I'm watching them move the bricks to the puzzle platform, what I thought they should have done(which is what I would have done) was map out the puzzle pattern on the ground rather than try to build it vertically and risk getting it wrong. You can experiment more if they're horizontal, see your errors, and fix them. Once you see that they're right, just stack them up. Probably would have been a little more tiring because it's these big ass blocks.

[AntFTW]

1 hour ago, leocadia said:

I was also super happy that Jordan had no way of blaming Aneesa for their loss.  He lost in his matches against Johnny while Aneesa actually got points.  He only had to make one and they would've been in the final.  I don't think he would have been as gracious if the situation were reversed.

I agree with that.

I think had Aneesa and Jordan just made it past that elimination, I think they could have had a good shot at winning. It wasn't the usual footrace to the money. That final game gave no advantage to anyone.

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[aghst]

They changed the rules on that elimination game.  You just have to get into the circle, not put the ball in the receptacle?

That changes from strength/endurance to agility.  Nany was easily juking by Aneesa, who'd have difficulty staying in front of her even if she wasn't injured.

Whenever that game was used in non-Final elimination. the defender was in the circle, near the receptacle, so it was a wrestling/tackling fight.

Many had all that room outside the circle to go back and forth.  Hell if she couldn't juke, she could just sprint around until Aneesa fell behind and then go into the circle.

Jordan and Johnny just tried mostly to go through each other, though they might have had trouble running past each other.  But a football player is trained to either evade tackles or in the case of a bigger player vs. a smaller defender, go through them, "truck them" as they say.  I guess Aneesa wasn't going to run full speed into Nany and trample over her, even if she didn't have injuries.

The puzzle won the this round.  Devin was more methodical and Tori didn't argue with him, just trusted that he was right, while Johnny and Nany bickered because they probably didn't have the same plans until they'd stacked almost all the bricks to discover their mistake.

I'd be curious to see how much they ran in this Final compared to previous Finals.  Aneesa with her ankle and Nany with her knee problem may not have been able to run the distances that previous Finals required, including going uphill a lot.

Jordan and Aneesa may not have even made it to third if Olivia didn't get injured but somehow, the endurance part really didn't eliminate Aneesa sooner so it seems like they were just able to jog some distances here and there but it wasn't a continuous slog climbing a mountain like a lot of other Finals.

Not sure how I feel about eliminations at the end but they did it before with Kaycee eliminating Nany and most of the people who make the Final have been avoiding eliminations most of the season to make the Finals so it's good to see them have to survive elimination.

This tunnel thing I guess was a combination of endurance, strength and puzzles.  Visually it looks better to run long distances in the wide open with helicopter shots and such.  But there's more suspense here because getting a lead in this 4-rooms deal is no guarantee that you will win.  Banany might have been able to come back if they only had to rebuild once.  But having to rebuild again they had no chance to catch up.

The money sharing is cool.  Devin and Tori are each giving up 1/4 of their winnings before taxes.  This is their first time winning money.  When CT did it, he'd won so many times it wasn't as big of a deal.  But I suspect the strategy is to buy loyalty or allies for future seasons.  Probably also they could convince others to protect them because they keep their word and are generous.

Wow $38k is significant for all the pairs who didn't win but made it to the Final and came close to winning like Banany.  That suggests MTV is really cheap and making the Final isn't some great windfall.

 

[mojoween]

8 hours ago, DEL901 said:

According to Devin, that challenge took five hours, two of that in the last room. 

Apparently there is no more room in the mind for The Challenge, because I’ve already forgotten what the last room was.

So John and Nany stood looking at cinder blocks for five hours?

[DEL901]

27 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Apparently there is no more room in the mind for The Challenge, because I’ve already forgotten what the last room was.

So John and Nany stood looking at cinder blocks for five hours?

The whole thing was 5 hours.  The chain room was 2 hours, plus the time in the sand room.  So Banany stood  around 2 or 3 hours.  In the interview, Devin said Tori brought up sharing the money in the chain room.  

[Jillibean]

I'm very satisfied with the result, even if the final itself felt a bit lackluster. The players can only do what you put in front of them, and Devin and Tori were so clearly superior to the other teams in basically all aspects other than eating and brute strength. They worked so well together as a team, and it's poetic justice that it came down to a puzzle that Johnny and Nany severely botched by not paying attention and yelling at each other. 

I feel like Jordan was mentally checked out. Leaving his shirt on and not figuring out the targets for the helicopter section seem like errors that are very unlike him.

Nany attacking Aneesa's ankle was not cute. I get that she wants to win, but this is her friend and my understanding is that she really actually hurt Aneesa badly. And same old Nany overall--mental errors all over the place. 

I rolled my eyes when Johnny started yelling about how they should have won the corn maze but Nany was too slow and Devin calmly told him they hadn't even been close--and Johnny absorbed that, then immediately started ranting about how unfair it had been that Devin and Tori had a better route. Yeesh. Seeing him lose was joyful, but while he's taking the credit, Nany deserves a lot of it also. They came very close to losing an elimination against someone with one working leg because Nany is a mess. 

Devin's approach to both the helicopter and puzzle show why he is a top tier challenger despite his mid-class athletic abilities. So much of these challenges is logistics, and he does them maybe better than anyone else who has ever done that show. I think part of the reason his partnership with Tori worked so well is that he was so confident she would pull through on the strength and athletic piece that it took the pressure off him and let him just groove in his niche. And also, she never yelled at him to run faster or keep up with her. It's nice to see the Ride or Die season end with the team that worked the best together and that showed mutual respect and love the whole season taking the win.

[AntFTW]

6 hours ago, aghst said:

You just have to get into the circle, not put the ball in the receptacle?

The ball still had to go in. However, once they’re in the circle, there’s no more wrestling or tackling. Once they’re in the circle, the defensive player can’t try to stop them.

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[Tachi Rocinante]

8 hours ago, leocadia said:

I was also super happy that Jordan had no way of blaming Aneesa for their loss.  He lost in his matches against Johnny while Aneesa actually got points.  He only had to make one and they would've been in the final.  I don't think he would have been as gracious if the situation were reversed.

Agree, but Nany gifted her 2 extra chances by being stupid.  Their portion should've been over much quicker.

As much as I don't like Nany and her horse-teeth veneers, she had no other choice but to go low on Aneesa and I don't think she was truly "targeting" her injury. As they mentioned, trying to tackle her high would have been a disaster.

 

11 hours ago, DEL901 said:

And I think Olivia looks a lot more attractive without makeup, even with two black eyes. 

Strange, but incredibly true.

[AncientNewbie]

I could have lived with any of the final three winning. A nice career capstone for two of the women, even if they won't actually go away; yet another win for the GOAT argument for two of the men, and then a team that had really grown on me lately (even though "what's 8 times 9 Josh?" endeared Devin to me previously.)

I did feel the choppy editing taking me out of it. I know there were events that didn't air from earlier eps, so I wonder what happened this time around. If they were selling the 100 hours, I wanted to see 100 hours (not literally) of activity and suffering. 

In the end, I'm good with the win. These two have been solid competitors for a few years and have lost their AYTO origins to really blend into the world of Challenge vets. 

[AntFTW]

31 minutes ago, Jillibean said:

I rolled my eyes when Johnny started yelling about how they should have won the corn maze but Nany was too slow and Devin calmly told him they hadn't even been close

Perhaps it could have been because Nany was too slow. You never know with a giant maze. Not much strategizing can happen. You never really know which direction is the right direction. You just have to be faster. Devin and Tori just had to be faster than Nany.

32 minutes ago, Jillibean said:

Devin's approach to both the helicopter and puzzle show why he is a top tier challenger despite his mid-class athletic abilities. So much of these challenges is logistics, and he does them maybe better than anyone else who has ever done that show. I think part of the reason his partnership with Tori worked so well is that he was so confident she would pull through on the strength and athletic piece that it took the pressure off him and let him just groove in his niche. And also, she never yelled at him to run faster or keep up with her. It's nice to see the Ride or Die season end with the team that worked the best together and that showed mutual respect and love the whole season taking the win.

Completely agree!

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[AntFTW]

3 hours ago, mojoween said:

Apparently there is no more room in the mind for The Challenge, because I’ve already forgotten what the last room was.

So John and Nany stood looking at cinder blocks for five hours?

3 hours ago, DEL901 said:

The whole thing was 5 hours.  The chain room was 2 hours, plus the time in the sand room.  So Banany stood  around 2 or 3 hours.  In the interview, Devin said Tori brought up sharing the money in the chain room.  

I thought that once Devin and Tori finished the cinder block puzzle, it was done. It’s seems to me that the remaining sections of that final challenge, there wasn’t much to slow them down. It’s hard to make up time on something like moving sand. If you’re behind after the puzzle, you’re probably going to stay behind.

I feel like the cinder block puzzle should have been the last one rather than the second one because it’s the ultimate equalizer and time buster.

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[AntFTW]

7 hours ago, aghst said:

The puzzle won the this round.  Devin was more methodical and Tori didn't argue with him, just trusted that he was right, while Johnny and Nany bickered because they probably didn't have the same plans until they'd stacked almost all the bricks to discover their mistake.

Yup, Tori let Devin give the direction on the puzzle while she was the workhorse there. That’s the right call. Tori is usually bad at puzzles, but she’s usually a great workhorse.

Nany is terrible at puzzles. Johnny is okay, not great, but just okay at puzzles. I also believe that Nany would not have had the energy to remove all, most, or a significant amount of the blocks. Also add that Nany was working with a hurt knee. I feel like Johnny had to do double the work on the puzzle. It looks like he had to move the blocks and also try to figure it out.

[AntFTW]

Whose twisted idea was it to build this monstrosity in the middle of a huge cornfield? The poor suckers that had to go back and forth with materials to the center of this thing to build a big ass jungle gym with lights...

[MMLEsq]

25 minutes ago, AntFTW said:

Whose twisted idea was it to build this monstrosity in the middle of a huge cornfield? The poor suckers that had to go back and forth with materials to the center of this thing to build a big ass jungle gym with lights...

Perhaps the cornfield was planted after the construction?

[joanne3482]

1 hour ago, Jillibean said:

Devin's approach to both the helicopter and puzzle show why he is a top tier challenger despite his mid-class athletic abilities. So much of these challenges is logistics, and he does them maybe better than anyone else who has ever done that show.

He talks a bit about this on the podcast. He trains on all possible aspects. He was so devastated after Spies, Lies and Allies because he couldn't run up a hill and that's, in his mind, why he lost. So he spent the off time running. And he said he ran with no headphones or distractions because when you're on the challenge there's no headphones or coaches in his ear. He also said he would order little puzzles from Amazon and work them while on breaks in the gym so he would do tangrams or whatnot. I think overall he's probably more intelligent than most of the other challengers. 

I'm glad Tori and Devin won. I like them both just fine. I wonder if they're going to start a 'tradition' about giving part of the money away. I really liked that aspect. It says a lot about who they both are. 

[bunnyface]

12 minutes ago, MMLEsq said:

Perhaps the cornfield was planted after the construction?

No, corn doesn't grow that high in the blink of an eye (ooh, rhyme.)  They had to have built it in the corn field.  But I'm sure they didn't have to go the maze route and just trucked it all to the center and built it.

 

[mojoween]

I know Nany and Aneesa are not NFL athletes, but just this past weekend, if the Eagles could have gotten to him, they absolutely would have targeted Patrick Mahomes’s hurt ankle.  It may feel unseemly, but you target your opponents weaknesses.

[aghst]

Challengers could have pacts going forward, to share some of tHe winnings with each other.  That will guarantee votes.

how much training can you do between seasons if you have to do any kind of job?  Previous winners may not have to get jobs between seasons but everyone else, maybe living with parents or something?

[snarts]

Curious on how/if the rules have changed regarding the prize money.  Way back when this series was in its infancy, on Real World/Road Rules: Battle of the Seasons, Sean Duffy masterminded a formula to share prize money among the Real World team (ha ha, socialism)  If I'm remembering correctly, they banned somehow on the very next season. 

I like I half assed watched last season so I don't really remember CT sharing his winnings.  Maybe it's ok if it's done after the final and not discussed beforehand? But, like others have mentioned, it's bound to endear some to Devin/Tori and potentially change people's behavior towards them on future challenges.  Hmmm.

Edited February 16, 2023 by snarts

[AntFTW]

4 hours ago, snarts said:

I like I half assed watched last season so I don't really remember CT sharing his winnings.  Maybe it's ok if it's done after the final and not discussed beforehand? But, like others have mentioned, it's bound to endear some to Devin/Tori and potentially change people's behavior towards them on future challenges.  Hmmm.

Last season, it was part of the setup. The winning pair got to choose if they wanted to share some of the prize pot or keep it all for themselves. CT and Kaycee chose to share, giving each of the two remaining pairs 100K each.

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[shantown]

56 minutes ago, aghst said:

Challengers could have pacts going forward, to share some of tHe winnings with each other.  That will guarantee votes.

5 minutes ago, snarts said:

Way back when this series was in its infancy, on Real World/Road Rules: Battle of the Seasons, Sean Duffy masterminded a formula to share prize money among the Real World team

Was just coming to mention this! I remember that Coral won more than anyone because Evil Holly hadn't agreed to the sharing deal so Coral had no other half she had to split with. No one else had outright announced deals to split money with the losers since then, until CT and Kaycee last year. I think Tori and Devin deserved their win, and if Devin's interview is correct in terms of times and when they decided on that idea - they are really great people. They were apparently hours ahead at that time, and while working on finishing for the guaranteed win, discussed how to share with their friends? Even if it's a political move, that's a very generous one!

[aghst]

They could collude completely off camera, have a pact to toss some nominal amount to alliance partners if any of them won and the others made the Final.

MTV wouldn't have to know.

For all we know, they've already been doing this.

[AntFTW]

One thing I noticed that they don't emphasize is that Devin and Tori also got their cinder block puzzle wrong when they started building it up in the same way that Johnny and Nany got it wrong. It seems like they realized it and had to reset, but they caught it much sooner. Unlike Nany and Johnny, they hadn't put most of the blocks in place before they realized it.

Devin and Tori also start to build the puzzle one row of blocks higher than they should have, but Devin and Tori ends up tearing down this side, and starts working on the opposite side. The opposite side is where they figure out how the puzzle should look to then go back and rebuild this side that they originally fucked up on.

Edited February 16, 2023 by AntFTW

[Midwestern Lady]

I can't help but compare/contrast.  Aneesa really appeared to be injured with that puffy purple ankle.   It hurt to watch her walk.   I felt like Nanny was offering up premeditated excuses for being slow or losing in general.   I find her entitlement exhausting and I can't with the teeth.    Olivia had five fractures in her face and didn't want to quit.     

[MaggieG]

Well I'm happy for Tori and Devin. 

During Johnny and Nany's bickering session, I just wanted one of them "stop, let's take a breath and look at this". I understand it had been a long final and everyone was exhausted but goodness, you two were just wasting time yelling at each other. 

I'm absolutely loving the fact that Devin has won a final before Fessy. 

[luckyroll3]

TJ trying to escape Devin as he tries to get a hug:

Also, why was he so excited about the corn maze?!?!? I just knew that whole design and leg of the final was all his idea. 

I can't believe Nany and Johnny just quit. Yes, their structure was near completion, but to me that meant that if they removed the blocks and stacked them in a orderly way to find their missing piece, it would have been fairly quicker to reassemble. They could have even have one person looking for the piece while the other arranged the remaining loose blocks so they knew where they went. 

Anyway, I would have been annoyed with a Nany/Johnny win because I can't stand either of them, but I greatly dislike Nany, particularly because of her entitlement. And whoever upthread said she would have been bawling about unfairness if the roles were reversed and Aneesa targeted her injury as game play strategy was spot on. 

I would have been fine with any of the other teams winning, but I think Tori and Devin had the best Ride or Die partnership the entire season. They communicated well, they strategized appropriately, they calmed each other down/hyped each other up as necessary, and they constantly checked each other but constructively. It was a bit refreshing to see. And it was quite generous of them to share the money. I was over here with my calculator trying to figure out how much that left for them. 

(It was $772,000 to split between the 2 of them before taxes)

[jsm1125]

I have to wonder if Devin/Tori would have shared some of the money had the other top 3 teams not included someone from their Vacation Alliance (Nany and Aneesa), which also includes Kaycee, Faysal and Josh.

No way in hell would Amber B, for example, ever be seeing a sliver of that money had she made it to the finals.  

[LotusFlower]

Aneesa hasn’t won, right?  And she’s participated in tons of Challenges through the years.  Anyone know how many?  I don’t understand why Nany felt so entitled to finally winning, as did Bananas on her behalf, as did the show itself, but the same narrative wasn’t lent to Aneesa.  

[DEL901]

14 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Aneesa hasn’t won, right?  And she’s participated in tons of Challenges through the years.  Anyone know how many?  I don’t understand why Nany felt so entitled to finally winning, as did Bananas on her behalf, as did the show itself, but the same narrative wasn’t lent to Aneesa.  

I’ve only been watching for a few seasons, but I don’t think Aneesa has ever made the finals, so that was a big accomplishment for her. Nany can make the finals, but can’t seal the deal.  

[shantown]

26 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Aneesa hasn’t won, right?  And she’s participated in tons of Challenges through the years.  Anyone know how many?  I don’t understand why Nany felt so entitled to finally winning, as did Bananas on her behalf, as did the show itself, but the same narrative wasn’t lent to Aneesa.  

10 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

I’ve only been watching for a few seasons, but I don’t think Aneesa has ever made the finals, so that was a big accomplishment for her. Nany can make the finals, but can’t seal the deal.  

Aneesa made a couple finals way back in the day (like, back when it was still called "Real World Road Rules Challenge!) but never won. She's been an elimination round bamf though. I'm somewhat glad she didn't get the same "always a bridesmaid" edit as Nany - only made the loss that much worse with how much they were building it up.

[AntFTW]

54 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Aneesa hasn’t won, right?  And she’s participated in tons of Challenges through the years.  Anyone know how many?  I don’t understand why Nany felt so entitled to finally winning, as did Bananas on her behalf, as did the show itself, but the same narrative wasn’t lent to Aneesa.  

38 minutes ago, DEL901 said:

I’ve only been watching for a few seasons, but I don’t think Aneesa has ever made the finals, so that was a big accomplishment for her. Nany can make the finals, but can’t seal the deal.  

Aneesa has made it to finals but it's been quite some time. It was in her earlier seasons.

Nany has only started making it to finals in recent seasons. This was Nany's 12th season. By her 9th season, which I think is Total Madness, she had only been to one final. Then, she starts dating Kaycee. She gets in with the popular kids and she's been getting to finals back-to-back after that.

 

28 minutes ago, shantown said:

Aneesa made a couple finals way back in the day (like, back when it was still called "Real World Road Rules Challenge) but never won. She's been an elimination round bamf though. I'm somewhat glad she didn't get the same "always a bridesmaid" edit as Nany - only made the loss that much worse with how much they were building it up.

I felt like this was a redemption season for Aneesa. Even though she didn't win, it was still a really good season for her despite having an a-hole as a partner.

Edited February 17, 2023 by AntFTW

[Never Again]

45 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

Aneesa hasn’t won, right?  And she’s participated in tons of Challenges through the years.  Anyone know how many?  I don’t understand why Nany felt so entitled to finally winning, as did Bananas on her behalf, as did the show itself, but the same narrative wasn’t lent to Aneesa.  

I can’t stand Nany ever since Bloodlines, which was idk how many years ago. There were a lot of rookies bc they were the relatives of the vets  (“bloodlines”). I forgot what happened Nany had an argument with one of them, and she kept shouting with a real bitch attitude “know your role rookie, know your role”.  Over and over.    It was so annoying to me because she had never won a damned thing and she acted like she was the Queen Of The Challenge.  She always squeaks by due to her relationships and tail riding.  I’m not saying it’s not a strategy since it works for her, but once she has to perform she’s a total zero.  And the nerve to think no other team has the right to throw in her against Kaycee! Excuse me? That’s the game!  If you don’t want to go against her then come as a team together or come on separate seasons.  She really thinks very highly of herself and feels everyone should consider her untouchable.  She is very unimpressive to me and I’m glad they did not win 

[LotusFlower]

18 minutes ago, Never Again said:

...and she kept shouting with a real bitch attitude “know your role rookie, know your role”.  Over and over.   

Really?  I watched it, but I don’t remember.  (I’ve watched them all, but they all blend together in my head).  That’s so obnoxious.  
 

22 minutes ago, Never Again said:

 And the nerve to think no other team has the right to throw in her against Kaycee! Excuse me? That’s the game!  If you don’t want to go against her then come as a team together or come on separate seasons.

After going after Aneesa’s hurt ankle to beat her, she can no longer criticize anyone else’s moves to win.  
 

 

[AntFTW]

27 minutes ago, Never Again said:

There were a lot of rookies bc they were the relatives of the vets  (“bloodlines”). I forgot what happened Nany had an argument with one of them, and she kept shouting with a real bitch attitude “know your role rookie, know your role”.  Over and over.    It was so annoying to me because she had never won a damned thing and she acted like she was the Queen Of The Challenge.

Well, they were also rude to her because she was aligned with Johnny. It was Dario and his twin.