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S14.E09: Midnight in the Chateau of Good and Evil


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Sheree plans a lavish slumber party to cheer herself up after Tyrone's betrayal; Marlo makes a difficult parenting decision regarding her nephews; Drew's mum delivers a prophecy about a female adversary in their midst.

Airdate: 07/10/2022

OOOOOOHHHH, a prophecy!

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Where did Marlo send the boys? I didn't understand the whole story. Did she say she did it because she needed a break? Way to screw them up even more, Marlo. 

Tyrone ghosting Sheree just in time for the season to begin then Sheree pretending she doesn't want anything to do with him.  I don't think there was ever any relationship with them. Just more made for TV lies. 

I still want to know how Sheree who hasn't worked a day since her last time on the show has managed to keep that house. 

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18 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Where did Marlo send the boys? I didn't understand the whole story. Did she say she did it because she needed a break? Way to screw them up even more, Marlo. 

I believe Marlo said that the boys were with her sister for 30 days or something like that. Yup, she said it was because she needed a break. I do not remember how old each of the boys are, but a lot of what she was complaining about seemed somewhat typical disobedience of kids around that age. One did punch a wall, so there was that, but most of it sounded fairly tame. Most people do not get to check out of parenting when things get hard. I did enjoy the reactions of the women to her saying she told them to get out of her house. 

I have to admit that I kind of enjoyed drunk Kenya.

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9 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Where did Marlo send the boys? I didn't understand the whole story. Did she say she did it because she needed a break? Way to screw them up even more, Marlo. 

she sent them to her other sisters house who has 4 small children of her own apparently 

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What is it with these women and the penis? It is cringeworthy.  Lingerie parties, painting naughty bits, incense that smells like a body part? What am I missing.  Also, every time they have a pajama party it ends in screaming at each other and people being held back from physically harming someone...what is fun about that?

I swear it is like they are 12 and just learned about sex and body parts.

Lisa Wu as I live and breath!

The camera did not blur out the dick that was being painted or the butts of the models?

Drew proudly tells her mother that Ralph fired the assistant that disrespected her...two things came to mind, one the affair was over or two, he did not pay that assistant. Ralph writing a book...has he ever read one?

Has Sheree always had those stomach tattoos? Her TH's looks are going from bad to bad.

I did not understand what Marlo said about the wet clothes, she took the kids to the laundromat? Why not do the laundry at home? The whole thing confused me.  Why wouldn't she try family counseling, obviously there are some anger issues with the boys.  I still do not understand the whole wet laundry thing.

Sanja is not interesting, her husband gives me an odd vibe, he goes to Texas often for business but wants another baby, why? Is it to tie her down so she is less likely to stray because he is straying when he is in Texas?  

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1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I did not understand what Marlo said about the wet clothes, she took the kids to the laundromat? Why not do the laundry at home? The whole thing confused me.  Why wouldn't she try family counseling, obviously there are some anger issues with the boys.  I still do not understand the whole wet laundry thing.

Sanja is not interesting, her husband gives me an odd vibe, he goes to Texas often for business but wants another baby, why? Is it to tie her down so she is less likely to stray because he is straying when he is in Texas?  

What I assumed was that Marlo lives in a complex that has a shared laundry room. So she took the kids there to do their laundry, and from the sounds of it, left them to complete it. The oldest boy brought his laundry back wet and then took it to his room where he left it in a pile. She didn't find it until 3 days later and lost her mind.

I feel sorry for Marlo, because I think she really does want to do the right thing by those boys, but she has two things against her 1) she grew up with no good role models around parenting, and therefore, her thoughts on what it takes to be a good parent are shaped and molded by her desires as a child and 2) she got the boys as pre-teens and teens - absolutely the worst developmental stage, especially with kids that have trauma that they are dealing with (There is a reason babies come out cute and smelling good. If we all gave birth to 15 year olds the human race would be doomed). Based on that I don't necessarily blame her for sending the kids away. Its better than her drinking every night to deal with them and then turning into another version of her mom. What I do wish is rather than asking the boys if they needed therapy, she simply said, "this is too much for all of us to deal with and we're going to therapy". 

As for Ross, I have some friends who are associated with the Giants organization. They said he's a straight arrow and as focused and directed as he appears on the show. I think he really is working to get his business off the ground. As to why he wants another child, its probably because from his perspective Deuce was an easy baby and having him has made life better. It sounds like most of the hands on day-to-day was done by Sanja and her mom, which means the thought of adding another into the mix isn't a problem for him. What I'd like to see is Sanja say, "happy to have another if you'll agree to step up and take on the responsibility for providing care for year one. I'll handle the money, you make meals, change, bathe, etc." He'd probably understand more if he hadn't been excused from those responsibilities where Deuce was concerned. 

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11 hours ago, Axie said:

I enjoyed Kandi in the preview, “I am not Michele Obama!  You go low, I’m going low with you.”

Also, per the coming attractions, there will be a lot of shots of chaos erupting while Kandi rolls her eyes and continues to eat. Those are my favorite fights - was the last one the Nene Closet Debacle? Kandi has clearly been really disciplined about her diet/exercise and probably gives herself permission to eat at these events - she is NOT going to short change her cheat night.

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Drunk Kenya needs to make more appearances. She was the best thing about this episode.

Sanya's conversation with Drew at the sleepover was hi-larious. Drew basically did to Sanya what Sanya said she wanted to do with her -pulled her aside during a get together to talk things out - and lo and behold, Sanya wasn't having it. Guess you don't like having confrontational conversations at parties when you're the one being confronted, huh?  Drew at least was keeping her voice low and asking for clarification on what Sanya meant in her conversations with Ralph but then Sanya gets defensive and then adds insult to injury by playing the I get your names mixed up because they're both male sounding? Whaaaaat? Then walks away from the conversation like she's the one with a legit beef.

Drew is a mess and can be annoying and a whole lot of other things, but in this drama Sanya's 'beef' with her is not legit and how she's approached her running hot/cold just makes her look nuts. Lisa Wu shutting Sanya down was the other great moment of the night because Sanya thought she could get away with that crap on someone other than Drew and Lisa Wu let her know she's not the one.

Fatum 'investigating' Drew and Ralph and then threatening to do more 'investigating' if Drew keeps coming at her? Is she for real? SHE keeps coming hard at Drew and Drew wasn't totally in the wrong in her interactions in asking 'Who are you and why are you talking about my husband?' Fatum is trying to bring spotlight to herself by attacking the HW that everyone sees as the weakest. Fatum could've put those skills to better use by investigating Tyrone for Sheree but since she wants Drew's peach apparently she's coming hard for her.

Kandi continues to keep it real and be the voice of reason. Not just in her interaction with Marlo in discussing her situation but did you see her firmly grab Marlo's arm during the initial toast? She wasn't having it and was over Marlo escalating crap with Kenya. Kenya was being her happy drunk self and not insulting anyone really but Marlo was still going in on her. The woman is unhappy and has very unhealthy coping mechanisms and it lashing out in seriously bad ways.  Sad thing is Marlo wanted Kandi's help/advice earlier on re the boys but couldn't simply ask for it. Earlier in the season when she visited Kandi and was trying to guilt her with the 'Why don't you call me to get together/talk about the boys' and Kandi let her know "Be the friend to me that you want me to be to you'; Marlo wasn't reaching out to schedule time or have fun together or establish a relationship and then turned around and tried to confront Kandi on why she's not her friend. I felt that was Marlo right then trying to ask for help/guidance but she couldn't simply ask and instead made it about Kandi not stepping up. I really hope Marlo turns a corner and somehow navigates getting help for herself and those boys.

Sheree one-eyed look at the camera as she 'broke down' crying on Tyrone had my mom cackling. Then she fled the room to 'let it all out'. Oh, Sheree.

Shame about the lawsuit Nene has with Bravo because all her clips talking about Tyrone would've been great to include in the fallout of his no show date.

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4 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

What I assumed was that Marlo lives in a complex that has a shared laundry room.

Really? No washer and dryer in her place? And to think she gave Kenya shit for having a rental that had a white refrigerator! 

I am sure Marlo hit the wall with taking care of two teen boys, it's tough and often thankless but the work she has put in already was good, if she could give them guidance as far as laundry instead of just dropping them off with a bag of quarters they would have a sense of accomplishment along with learning some kitchen basics...what is her sister going to to do with four little ones and now add two teens that don't help out much?

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And to think she gave Kenya shit for having a rental that had a white refrigerator! 

I thought that was Nene who did that when she went to visit Kenya at that Rental. Marlo ragged on her as well?

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53 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

I thought that was Nene who did that when she went to visit Kenya at that Rental. Marlo ragged on her as well?

Hmmm, now I don't remember who said it. Marlo did make an issue about Porsha's welcome mat being too small so there's that. 

7 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Marho has a lot of nerve with her “can’t keep a man” bullshit. 🙄

Why is that the biggest go to as an insult, half these men that get on this show are no catch, prison records, no job, failing businesses, cheaters...I say if you are doing fine on your own then that should be enough and deserves a pat on your back for being smart enough to not get with a man for the sake of getting with a man.  

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Drew is such a shady loser. Her and Ralph are up to something.

Marlo is a POS. She has to ruin the fun. Way to fuck up those boys even more. Marlo is the worst. The no man insult is tired and stupid coming from her to Kenya.

Drunk Kenya was funny. 

The naked model stuff is overdone at this point but I do think the guy model was hot as hell.

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Drunk Kenya is the best!

Someone needs to make a meme of drunk Kenya chomping on a lobster tail with the shell still on.

I am sick of Marlo going after Kandi and Kenya. She lives in a glass house and is throwing stones.

Can't keep a man....who the fuck cares?

I would rather be alone than stay with a man like Tyrone or Ralph.

Ross is fine as hell, though.

38 minutes ago, Marley said:

Drew is such a shady loser. Her and Ralph are up to something.

I feel like every one of her business ventures, including her "church", are MLM schemes.

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Oh thank you @Hiyo, I knew someone would fact check that scene!

I always thought it was stupid of Nene to be so critical of a rental, it's not like Kenya picked out anything in that long term hotel room.

If these HW's keep having lingerie/nude models/overly aggressive strippers at parties we are going to have to watch this show on Pornhub.

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Sageing the coochie! Did Sheree and Tyrone even get that far?
Marlo gets mad when Kenya quips back at her and goes for the low blow. Marc didn’t think Kenya was the moment. Who cares? Leaving Marc was one of the better things Kenya has done. 
I love Lisa Wu but what did she do to herself? I always thought she was very  pretty but now she looks overdone with the fillers. 

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What was funny to me was about 4 of these women (including Lisa) had foundation that wasn't meant to be on camera. They looked so green under those bright white tv lights...

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1 hour ago, Rlb8031 said:

What was funny to me was about 4 of these women (including Lisa) had foundation that wasn't meant to be on camera. They looked so green under those bright white tv lights...

I thought the color on my TV was bad.

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Someone really should have made a peach cocktail for Fatum.

Also, maybe she should have sicced her investigators on Tyrone instead of Drew and her husband?

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On 7/11/2022 at 8:53 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

What is it with these women and the penis? It is cringeworthy.  Lingerie parties, painting naughty bits, incense that smells like a body part? What am I missing.  Also, every time they have a pajama party it ends in screaming at each other and people being held back from physically harming someone...what is fun about that?

I swear it is like they are 12 and just learned about sex and body parts.

Lisa Wu as I live and breath!

The camera did not blur out the dick that was being painted or the butts of the models?

Drew proudly tells her mother that Ralph fired the assistant that disrespected her...two things came to mind, one the affair was over or two, he did not pay that assistant. Ralph writing a book...has he ever read one?

Has Sheree always had those stomach tattoos? Her TH's looks are going from bad to bad.

I did not understand what Marlo said about the wet clothes, she took the kids to the laundromat? Why not do the laundry at home? The whole thing confused me.  Why wouldn't she try family counseling, obviously there are some anger issues with the boys.  I still do not understand the whole wet laundry thing.

Sanja is not interesting, her husband gives me an odd vibe, he goes to Texas often for business but wants another baby, why? Is it to tie her down so she is less likely to stray because he is straying when he is in Texas?  

I'm confused does Marlo not have a washer and dryer at home ?

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On 7/11/2022 at 2:54 PM, Hiyo said:

I thought that was Nene who did that when she went to visit Kenya at that Rental. Marlo ragged on her as well?

yes that was Nene.

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Just now, sugarbaker design said:

The washer and dryer are probably in her complex utility room, not in her unit.

ok, I guess I just assumed her townhome had hookups for them or came with  inclusive . Thanks

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I'd be really shocked if Marlo doesn't have a w/d in her home.  My thought was that the boys had so much dirty laundry, she was going to make them do it at the laundry mat, so they could use multiple washers and dryers at one time.  That doesn't explain how they ended up with wet clothes souring back in their room, but neither does a laundry room in their complex.  I've screwed up and left clothes in the washer that needed to be rewashed, but I've never taken wet, heavy clothes away from where the dryer is and dumped them on my floor.  That's just odd.

I will say, I 100% thought there was Bravo editing going on in the previews and that the "I told them to get the fuck out" would have been taken out of context.  I thought Marlo's one real redeeming value was taking care of her nephews, and it seemed to be something she actually took pride in.  I understand she's not their mom and should be commended for taking care of them for the past three years.  And I can understand feeling overwhelmed.  But these were boys who were acting out after the rejection from their mom's phone call.  The last thing they needed was MORE rejection.  Kids often will act out and test boundaries because they are proving to themselves you will love them and take care of them no matter what.  I'd have so much more sympathy for Marlo if she A) wasn't prancing around the furniture store having a grand ol' time picking out furniture and just seems fine going on with her life all la tee da, and B) hadn't shown the footage of their dirty room to shame them on national tv.  I think she broke her trust with them twice.  I hope she can (and will choose to) work on reestablishing that trust with them.  It will make such a difference if they believe there is even ONE person who gives a shit about them and will stand by them.

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Also, I just googled myself and apparently I have 5 aliases, six if you include MY FATHER'S NAME, which would give me a male alias. Y'all probably shouldn't trust me.

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1 hour ago, lasu said:

I'd be really shocked if Marlo doesn't have a w/d in her home.  My thought was that the boys had so much dirty laundry, she was going to make them do it at the laundry mat, so they could use multiple washers and dryers at one time.  That doesn't explain how they ended up with wet clothes souring back in their room, but neither does a laundry room in their complex.  I've screwed up and left clothes in the washer that needed to be rewashed, but I've never taken wet, heavy clothes away from where the dryer is and dumped them on my floor.  That's just odd.

Okay, I'm gonna explain teenage boy shenanigans to you:

1) Take every stich of clothing you have and wear it until it is about ready to stand up on its own or has visible stains on the front ('cause stains only matter if you can see them)

2) Gather up all those clothes under duress (usually threats of death) and lug them all to the nearest washing machine

3) Shove as many things into a single washing machine as humanly possible - if left unattended mix lights and darks because your mom/dad/parental/authority figure doesn't know what they are talking about. Throw in whites if "its never run before"

4) Take the large sopping wet pile of clothes that results from the washing machine spin cycle being ineffective due to overloading and shove it into a single dryer, because "it will be quicker" than putting it in two

5) Run the dryer for a single cycle only. 

6) Remove the still damp clothes from the dryer and shove them back into the bag/basket unfolded because this "was taking too long and I had to get to a friend's/the store/online/my date/ the party/the pool/practice/etc"

7) Bring them home and dump them in the middle of the floor.

8) Close the door and run out of the house screaming "the laundry is done and I'm heading OOOOOOUUUUTTTTT"

This was my life from 2012-2016 - trust me I overstand

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17 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

5) Run the dryer for a single cycle only. 

6) Remove the still damp clothes from the dryer and shove them back into the bag/basket unfolded because this "was taking too long and I had to get to a friend's/the store/online/my date/ the party/the pool/practice/etc"

7) Bring them home and dump them in the middle of the floor.

Thank you.  These were the steps I was missing.  I live alone so I can leave things in the dryer until the end of time, and I'm allowed to declare myself "DONE!" anytime I feel like it.

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