S05.E16: Unfinished Business/Tell All Part 1

[TipseyGirl]

9 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

Thank you, JeanJean.  To be honest, I live partly for the snark here each week and hope our merry band is going to do the 90 Day Fiance in a couple weeks.   My daughter's mostly lost her ability to speak in sentences that make sense, and hospice starts in the next week or so.  Still, she doesn't seem to be in any pain and still loves TV.  It feels surreal.

Big hugs to you. I am so sorry that you and your daughter are going through this. Sending prayers and good vibes your way. I, for one, will be here for all the snark with 90 Day.

[Stuckathome]

56 minutes ago, winsomeone said:

Ben and Mike had the nerve to actually laugh at Gino? At least he has a woman that wants him.

Absolutely. Mike may possibly be the most delusional man ever on this franchise. And I say that remembering Cesar and David.....I was so, so disappointed to hear that he and Ximena are "back together." She has a link to her OF account on her insta.....so did Mike get on board with her continuing to do cam work? I actually can see her saying she wants to do it, him throwing a tantrum and she holds the line and he relents. His texts and that video call (before the tell nothing part started) was just so pathetic and cringe. I really wanted her to click and block that jackass. He truly lives in his own reality.

He really wants to control her, that is all this is----it is obsession, not love. At this point I think X has made it clear she really only wants $$---she has said she finds him physically repulsive with his burping and farting and snot blowing; he isn't good in bed and he can't cook for shit. So if they have reconciled, it is for long enough to get the second  home in Colombia---which I am sure will be purchased in her name, prior to any marriage (which aint' happening). So in her mind, she thinks well he has to know that I don't really want to commit to him. And in his mind, they are soulmates and I am sure he runs around the firehouse bragging about his hot fiancee. 

Ben's talk about the lion and gazelles made me puke a little in my mouth. Of course he is one of those guys who thinks men need to keep their women in line. How did that work out for you with Mahogs in Peru? Seems to me we all saw her dodge you at every chance and leave  your ass sitting on the curb in Lima. GMAFB. 

I felt for Jasmine with the reveal about Gino and Ben's friend. Who else is he sending DMs to? And why and how did he even meet that woman? 

[TipseyGirl]

1 hour ago, winsomeone said:

Ben and Mike had the nerve to actually laugh at Gino? At least he has a woman that wants him.

Exactly! Good grief I can't with those two assholes. Mike sure was on a high-horse about being an expert on relationships. He was so shocked that Gino paid for dates. What did he think he was doing? Shut up, Mike - you sound like a fool.

[lilysmom]

6 minutes ago, TipseyGirl said:

Exactly! Good grief I can't with those two assholes. Mike sure was on a high-horse about being an expert on relationships. He was so shocked that Gino paid for dates. What did he think he was doing? Shut up, Mike - you sound like a fool.

You stated my feelings about  Mike's smug, condescending comments last night, EXACTLY!!

[Stuckathome]

19 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

You stated my feelings about  Mike's smug, condescending comments last night, EXACTLY!!

YES! He was insufferable.....

And Ben, you have ZERO cred in terms of how to interact with women. I think he sees himself as this macho, alpha male that only "real" women are drawn to....if you aren't into him, it is because God has hardened your heart or you are immature or you just don't understand what love means. 

[RedLA]

I am still marveling over Jasmine’s hair.  So much hair.  Sooooooo much hair.  All I can think of is she scalped every female “full balls” has ever dated, married, tipped or talked to and made her hair trophy.  Sooooooo much hair.

[Back Atcha]

On 4/2/2022 at 12:19 AM, magemaud said:

As crazy as she is, she really does seem to love the poor schlub! 

She's now "an actress" on TELEVISION and wants to stay as long as possible.

22 minutes ago, RedLA said:

I am still marveling over Jasmine’s hair.  So much hair.  Sooooooo much hair.  All I can think of is she scalped every female “full balls” has ever dated, married, tipped or talked to and made her hair trophy.  Sooooooo much hair.

Consider this...but spend more $$$.  

[Breedom]

Gino and Jasmine: Weird. How could Jasmine do such an about face with Gino? She was so loving (when she wasn't attacking him) during the season, and during the tell-all she's in total attack mode, letting it all out. If I had a boyfriend who told people that he thought I was very un-sexy - knowing that he thought this and shared it with the world - he'd be out the door. The ball-draining talk, the masturbation and only having sex once - yeah, that's "different" - but all really intimately private stuff to put out there if you love someone. Then Gino out-and-out lying when asked by Shaun if he had contacted the blonde friend. Just asking that question was all the clue he needed to know that it was known and would be brought up - and still, he chose to lie about it. Own it, stop being so frightened to admit to the things you've done and move on. They should BOTH be embarrassed about their behavior.

[Back Atcha]

1 hour ago, Stuckathome said:

Ben's talk about the lion and gazelles made me puke a little in my mouth. Of course he is one of those guys who thinks men need to keep their women in line.

Can you IMAGINE what kind of "pastor" he was? 

I wonder what all the little ladies he met thrugh the Lupus Foundation in Michigan think now.  They seemed so "adoring" and complimentary on the photos and videos.

His use of the word PREDATOR was the moment he should have been removed from any contract with TLC.  BEN IS A PREDATOR and TLC is enabling him.  A dictionary definition when used for humans:  "A person or group that ruthlessly exploits others."  His pontificating and "advice" to all the others is a joke.  

 

 

[Back Atcha]

On 4/2/2022 at 7:05 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

 If he gets a job she will be home alone and she will not be able to have him on the phone all day long to send reports and receipts. 

Cellphone, cellphone, cellphone.   Unless Gino goes to work somewhere that personal cellphones are not allowed, she WILL be able to contact him all day--and he had BETTER respond.  He needs to put some sort of protection in a work contract.  

[heatherchandler]

13 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

 

Gino: As Judge Judy would say, "If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory".  100% he contacted Ben's pretty (and married) friend.  What's with asking if she's Sicilian, with a cowboy emoji at that?  I don't know if Gino would actually physically cheat on Jasmine, but he obviously does troubling things and then hides them, or skirts the truth by a country mile.  Maybe for the first time, I feel for Jasmine.  I would find a relationship with Gino impossible because he's not open and honest (among other reasons).

 

This is cracking me up!

[Back Atcha]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:36 AM, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

On 4/1/2022 at 8:03 PM, JeanJean said:

Does anyone else find it sweet but also funny that Jasmine thinks Gino is a chick magnet?

It speaks to low self-esteem on her part. Of course, she overcompensates by being a raging bitch so much of the time.

I think it's a line.  I have a friend whose second husband was devoted to her.  She told me that although she IS jealous--sometimes she had to PRETEND to be angry and jealous, "because men like that."  She'd pretend to be hurt over the tiniest/most ridiculous things.  And...she said she never met an unattractive man that didn't believe her when she told him he's SO handsome.  Many women know how to work these insecure men.  Jasmine's a pro.  Professional crier too.

[nutella fitzgerald]

13 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

What's with asking if she's Sicilian, with a cowboy emoji at that?

I think he is so insecure about his baldness that he also requires his emoji to wear a hat at all times.

[Back Atcha]

3 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

13 hours ago, AR Traveler said:

Gino: As Judge Judy would say, "If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory".  100% he contacted Ben's pretty (and married) friend.  What's with asking if she's Sicilian, with a cowboy emoji at that?  I don't know if Gino would actually physically cheat on Jasmine, but he obviously does troubling things and then hides them, or skirts the truth by a country mile.  Maybe for the first time, I feel for Jasmine.  I would find a relationship with Gino impossible because he's not open and honest (among other reasons).

 

This is cracking me up!

• Jealous Jasmine thinks ANYTHING/EVERYTHING is cheating. 
• Lying Gino thinks only "the insertion" is cheating.

[BitterApple]

Mike is the most pathetic creature in human history. Imagine the nerve of judging a man who uses escorts when you're bankrolling a woman who hates you. At least in a sugar baby set-up, both parties know the deal. Mike is under the delusion he's in a relationship when in reality he's buying pity sex from a poor single mom.

28 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

 Many women know how to work these insecure men.  Jasmine's a pro.  Professional crier too.

My thoughts too. It's all an act. "This woman who's way too hot for me is acting crazy, jealous and insecure! She can't possibly be after my money!." What better way to finesse a man with low self-esteem than act like you're willing to fight to the death for him?

Ben is gross. So gross. Like if he was my church's youth pastor I wouldn't let him anywhere near my kids kind of gross. 

Kimbaaaally needs to just quit now and someone her own age. I'm embarrassed for her. Her son Jamal seemed like a nice, handsome young man. I can't imagine what he thinks about all of this. Oh and Zara? Honey, you can do way better. 

Edited April 4, 2022 by BitterApple

[magemaud]

50 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

Consider this...but spend more $$$.  

I think she borrowed Brittany's wig: 

[Kid]

10 hours ago, Texasmom1970 said:

Kimbaalllys son is very handsome!

If everything depicted actually happened, how can he not be MORTIFIED?

I just started watching the Tell All.  These people are just awful. And Kimbaaaly was oh so judgey judgey until she got judged by the most awful one of the bunch, Ben!  I hate to agree with anything that he said but she did act like a predator. She can dish it out but she can’t take it.

Oh my God, that outfit on Memphis. That is not a style that is flattering on somebody who is shaped like a troll. Sorry, it does not work.

Edited April 4, 2022 by Kid

[greekmom]

The first hour was a snooze.

The Tell Nothing was actually pretty interesting all because of Jasmine. Her thoughts on Gino's meat and masturbation practices had me laughing my tushy off.

Kimberly is projecting her fears, insecurities, etc  of her relationship with Usman on Ella which is a mean thing to do given Kimber's age and life experiences (she's been married and has a son) vs Ella.  I feel that Kimber's son needs to take hold of Kimberly's finances and get POA. BTW Jamal is such a fine looking man.

I don't believe the statement from the incel turd minion that he and Ximena got back together.  Shaun didn't ask Ximena and we all know that the Incel likes to exaggerate.  He and Ximena probably chatted the night before and to him that's "getting back together".  She told him numerous times even at the one point when he dangled that they would have a house in Columbia and NY. 

Ben is still perv Christian pastor mode. 

Memphis shouldn't have worn the dress. But OMG Hamza looks sooooo fine. I can't believe that they are the only ones who actually are together now. (and that's still debatable as per internet).

In regards to Ella. I am super torn.  On the one hand what is a relationship?  I mean these two have never seen each other face to face. To me, that means nothing and they both should be free to pursue other avenues till they meet up.  Except for the tea factor, I have no issues with Ella hooking up with someone else except she should allow Johnny the same freedoms. On the other hand, she is the one who wants the whole commitment factor from abroad even though they never met.  That puts super pressure on both of them especially in covid times.  I feel she is really naïve and if she can find a dude here, she should find a guy here and put away her anime/Asian fantasy. 

Can't wait till next week when they all start ganging up on each other.  It's like wolves in a pen with only one piece of meat.  They really do like to turn on each other even though they are super nice at the beginning.

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Ben's talk about the lion and gazelles made me puke a little in my mouth. Of course he is one of those guys who thinks men need to keep their women in line.

I had to remind myself that Ben grew up in a religious cult and raised to believe women were subservient to men. A woman's sole purpose was to cater to her husband and have as many children as "God sent them." We've seen guys like him on the Fundies and Sister Wives shows who explain everything in Biblical terms that they've interpreted their own way. 

I had to laugh when Mahogany was running away from him and called back over her shoulder, "God bless you!" before she fled into the car. 

[lilysmom]

41 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

Can you IMAGINE what kind of "pastor" he was? 

I wonder what all the little ladies he met thrugh the Lupus Foundation in Michigan think now.  They seemed so "adoring" and complimentary on the photos and videos.

His use of the word PREDATOR was the moment he should have been removed from any contract with TLC.  BEN IS A PREDATOR and TLC is enabling him.  A dictionary definition when used for humans:  "A person or group that ruthlessly exploits others."  His pontificating and "advice" to all the others is a joke.  

 

 

Concerning the predator comment, I have a question. I don't recall him saying Kim was a predator, yet she responded like he did. Did I miss it? (I do sometimes zone out in between interactions on this show!)

Of course, she is another one who seemed to be an expert on everyone else's foibles and not her own. And she was atrocious in the ways she interrupted other people. I got the impression that she felt that she was the star of this tell all because she is now Usman's "girlfriend." As such, she would be correct in assuming that everyone is there for her and that she is the main attraction. (but Jasmine was the MANE attraction!)

[Stuckathome]

Jas posted on insta a few days ago that yes, that is a wig on the tell all. She said she has been losing a lot of hair and felt self conscious about showing up on tv semi bald, so she went for the most outrageous wig she could find. 

Ben's whole fake machismo is just so irritating and to think, there probably are women out there who follow that line of thinking and he ministers to their husbands and boyfriends. Ugh. 

Agree that Jamal is a very attractive young man and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. If his mom is to be believed, his dad is a cheating piece of poo, so kudos to her for raising him well. Sad that she degraded herself on tv, she seems truly delusional with her MJ fixation and now Usman. Zara looked gorgeous and I was surprised to hear they had never physically met up---I wonder if she sent him any $$. His face when he was video chatting her said it all in regards to his feelings for her vs. Kimberly. Why Zara would ever want that clown is beyond me, I imagine she has a lot of options here in the US. Maybe she is of Nigerian descent and they are pushing her to marry a Nigerian?? No clue, but she deserves better than this con artist. 

[Pepper Mostly]

13 minutes ago, magemaud said:

 I had to laugh when Mahogany was running away from him and called back over her shoulder, "God bless you!" before she fled into the car. 

"God bless you" is "oh for crying out loud go away and leave me alone", in Jesus. 

10 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

Concerning the predator comment, I have a question. I don't recall him saying Kim was a predator, yet she responded like he did. Did I miss it? (I do sometimes zone out in between interactions on this show!)

Well, if the shoe fits, Kim. 

6 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Jas posted on insta a few days ago that yes, that is a wig on the tell all. She said she has been losing a lot of hair and felt self conscious about showing up on tv semi bald, so she went for the most outrageous wig she could find. 

Why didn't she just wear a baseball cap? 

[Baltimore Betty]

50 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

Cellphone, cellphone, cellphone.   Unless Gino goes to work somewhere that personal cellphones are not allowed, she WILL be able to contact him all day--and he had BETTER respond.  He needs to put some sort of protection in a work contract.  

Yes I realize she would call him on his cellphone but realistically an employee should not be on their cell for the 8 hours they are at work and depending what Gino's actual job is it maybe in a building with no reception or he needs his hands to perform his job...I don't think he will be working at NSA where cell phones are not allowed, lol.  Gino could talk to a woman while he is at work and Jasmine would never know!

[CouchTater]

Ben is gross, but he wasn't wrong in what most of what he said to and about Kimberly.  Essentially, he said that her aggression toward Usman would have been a turnoff to him, and that he thinks it was a turnoff for Usman, too.  Hard agree.

Kimberly was losing respect all over the place 😆.  She had already lost respect for Ella because of cheating.  I can't remember why she lost respect for Ximena exactly.  Did she respect Jasmine?  And then she lost respect for Ben when he called her out for being aggressive toward Usman.  Who will she lose respect for next?  Surely herself?

And Kimberly's son is handsome, but I did see some of her in his profile (potentially protruding teeth).  His looks better straight on.

[Gobi]

19 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Can't wait till next week when they all start ganging up on each other.  It's like wolves in a pen with only one piece of meat.

And it's Gino's!

[Baltimore Betty]

10 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Jas posted on insta a few days ago that yes, that is a wig on the tell all. She said she has been losing a lot of hair and felt self conscious about showing up on tv semi bald, so she went for the most outrageous wig she could find. 

I think we all realized that was a wig, a really, really big wig.  Why not go more believable with the wig?

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

The ball-draining talk, the masturbation and only having sex once - yeah, that's "different" - but all really intimately private stuff to put out there if you love someone. 

She sure got revenge about the "noot" photos that were posted on the internet. 

A couple of other thoughts about last night's Tell All: 

In the preview it looked like Ximena did a total about face regarding Mike's claim that they were back together. Maybe she planned to do this all along to embarrass him on television. If so, good for her! He "deserves"* to be knocked down a few pegs! 

*At least five of the Americans have used that very word in the past couple of weeks, Memphis, Kim, Ella, Mike and Ben all said they DESERVE happiness, love, etc. (I'm drawing a blank, who am I missing?* Oh, that's right, Gino! I don't think he said anything about deserving anything) 

Kim flirting with Ben when she met him was just cringeworthy, "Oh, you're so handsome!" and he returned the compliment. Then her opinion of him changed when he hinted that she was a predator. His ridiculous analogy "If a gazelle attacked me..." (No gazelle is stupid enough to attack a lion!) was as stupid as his Runaway Train story. 

I've posted before that Memphis got her hair cut in January, so the Tell All must have been filmed after that. I've read that she had the baby (a girl) in November, so she would no longer be pregnant but that would explain her even BIGGER BOOBIES (which Hamza must love!) I'm sure the baby will be mentioned in Part 2, maybe even brought out from backstage to show off.  

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by magemaud

[1011101010001]

10 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

"God bless you" is "oh for crying out loud go away and leave me alone", in Jesus. 

Maybe it’s like “bless his heart” in the South lol.

10 minutes ago, CouchTater said:

Ben is gross, but he wasn't wrong in what most of what he said to and about Kimberly.  Essentially, he said that her aggression toward Usman would have been a turnoff to him, and that he thinks it was a turnoff for Usman, too.  Hard agree.

Kimberly was losing respect all over the place 😆.  She had already lost respect for Ella because of cheating.  I can't remember why she lost respect for Ximena exactly.  Did she respect Jasmine?  And then she lost respect for Ben when he called her out for being aggressive toward Usman.  Who will she lose respect for next?  Surely herself?

And Kimberly's son is handsome, but I did see some of her in his profile (potentially protruding teeth).  His looks better straight on.

Yeah they both have Eeyore faces.

[Gobi]

What an exhausting Tell All. Gino must be feeling drained!

[1011101010001]

3 minutes ago, magemaud said:

She sure got revenge about the "noot" photos that were posted on the internet. 

Someone should have asked whose pics he looks at while he whacks.  Maybe an ex lol?

[magemaud]

21 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

I don't recall him saying Kim was a predator, yet she responded like he did. Did I miss it? (I do sometimes zone out in between interactions on this show!)

I had to rewatch this scene this morning because I wondered the same thing. He never used the word Predator (pretty rich coming from him) but said lions were the "hunters" and that Kim's aggressive quest for Usman was a "turn-off" for a man. 

[Kid]

46 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Ben is gross. So gross. Like if he was my church's youth pastor I wouldn't let him anywhere near my kids kind of gross. 

AMEN!!!!!   Just looking at him I feel I need a shower. And what a Sanctimonious, arrogant, know it all, son of a bitch.

[1011101010001]

Jazmine, the ghost of Pete Burns wants his wig back.  Maybe she spins on Gino’s meat like a record baby right round round round.

 

8 minutes ago, magemaud said:

He "deserves"* to be knocked down a few pegs! 

Please don’t mention Mike and peg in the same sentence.

[magemaud]

50 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

She said she has been losing a lot of hair and felt self conscious about showing up on tv semi bald, so she went for the most outrageous wig she could find. 

Memphis also claimed that she was losing a lot of hair due to stress and that's why she got the short 'do (which looks a million times better than that wig!) Is that some kind of side-effect from being on this show? I wonder why Jazmine's friend the hairstylist (remember he was the only male invited to the lame hotel party?*) allowed her to look so outrageous.  

edited to add: *I forgot the stripper! 

Edited April 4, 2022 by magemaud

[1011101010001]

5 minutes ago, Gobi said:

What an exhausting Tell All. Gino must be feeling drained!

With the current gas prices he may not want to empty the tanks.

[Mr. Miner]

I can't believe Gino would rather masturbate than put his pee pee in Jasmine's wee wee.

[1011101010001]

5 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I had to rewatch this scene this morning because I wondered the same thing. He never used the word Predator (pretty rich coming from him) but said lions were the "hunters" and that Kim's aggressive quest for Usman was a "turn-off" for a man. 

I think Kim’s existence is a turn-off for a man.

[magemaud]

19 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yes I realize she would call him on his cellphone but realistically an employee should not be on their cell for the 8 hours they are at work

Tell that to Nicole and Angela! 

[1011101010001]

2 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Memphis also claimed that she was losing a lot of hair due to stress and that's why she got the short 'do (which looks a million times better than that wig!) Is that some kind of side-effect from being on this show? I wonder why Jazmine's friend the hairstylist (remember he was the only male invited to the lame hotel party?) allowed her to look so outrageous.  

They can all be in G.I. Jane 2.

[CouchTater]

3 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

They can all be in G.I. Jane 2.

Too soon!  😆🤣

[Stuckathome]

7 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Memphis also claimed that she was losing a lot of hair due to stress and that's why she got the short 'do (which looks a million times better than that wig!) Is that some kind of side-effect from being on this show?

Post pregnancy hormones? I seem to recall a friend or two after having a baby reporting clumps of hair falling out....

17 minutes ago, magemaud said:

In the preview it looked like Ximena did a total about face regarding Mike's claim that they were back together. Maybe she planned to do this all along to embarrass him on television. If so, good for her! He "deserves"* to be knocked down a few pegs! 

I hope so, but from what I saw it also looks like Mike & X go after his friend who served as translator. If so it sort of reminds me of Colt and Larissa when they were on their season's tell all. They were very defensive and in attack mode the entire time. WE all know how well that all worked out lol. I hope X says look I told him we are friends and he just sends me this money (shrug) and he is on my OF pages every day and buying cameos from me (shrug). lol

[1011101010001]

9 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Post pregnancy hormones? I seem to recall a friend or two after having a baby reporting clumps of hair falling out....

I hope so, but from what I saw it also looks like Mike & X go after his friend who served as translator. If so it sort of reminds me of Colt and Larissa when they were on their season's tell all. They were very defensive and in attack mode the entire time. WE all know how well that all worked out lol. I hope X says look I told him we are friends and he just sends me this money (shrug) and he is on my OF pages every day and buying cameos from me (shrug). lol

The thing is the demand for cam performers increased during the pandemic because so many more customers were at home either working remotely or unemployed. So she could have made more money than usual when Mike asked her to stop working.

[magemaud]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

I can't believe Gino would rather masturbate than put his pee pee in Jasmine's wee wee

The need for the Blue Pills might explain his reluctance to have sex with an actual woman

[TipseyGirl]

1 hour ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

I think he is so insecure about his baldness that he also requires his emoji to wear a hat at all times.

And now BenYameen is annoyed. Tiny cowboy hat is HIS trademark, damnit.

[Scout Finch]

43 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yes I realize she would call him on his cellphone but realistically an employee should not be on their cell for the 8 hours they are at work and depending what Gino's actual job is it maybe in a building with no reception or he needs his hands to perform his job...I don't think he will be working at NSA where cell phones are not allowed, lol.  Gino could talk to a woman while he is at work and Jasmine would never know!

She can demand he keep his web cam on at work.

1 hour ago, greekmom said:

Can't wait till next week when they all start ganging up on each other.  It's like wolves in a pen with only one piece of meat.  They really do like to turn on each other even though they are super nice at the beginning.

Or lions with one gazelle.

34 minutes ago, magemaud said:

*At least five of the Americans have used that very word in the past couple of weeks, Memphis, Kim, Ella, Mike and Ben all said they DESERVE happiness, love, etc. (I'm drawing a blank, who am I missing?) 

As a 58-year-old who has never even been engaged yet never felt entitled, I've got one thing to say to them: SHUT IT.

[CruiseDiva]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Mike is the most pathetic creature in human history. Imagine the nerve of judging a man who uses escorts when you're bankrolling a woman who hates you. At least in a sugar baby set-up, both parties know the deal. Mike is under the delusion he's in a relationship when in reality he's buying pity sex from a poor single mom.

But don't forget that that poor single mom is practically a prostitute who accepts money from men she "performs" for on the Internet and who has two kids fathered by two different low life men. I really don't feel sorry for her at all. Mike is simply delusional to think he ever had any future with her. If he keeps sending her money he deserves to end up in bankruptcy.

[Back Atcha]

51 minutes ago, Scout Finch said:

She can demand he keep his web cam on at work.

SHE can demand all she wants to demand.   The employer controls the environment.  Gino might not have the type of job that requires/allows a camera.

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by Back Atcha

[Mr. Miner]

Mike the turd needs to STFU! The nice host lady is going to get to you, she's going to let everyone know how your camgirl "fiance" chose poverty over having to screw your repulsive ass.

[Back Atcha]

4 minutes ago, CruiseDiva said:

But don't forget that that poor single mom is practically a prostitute who accepts money from men she "performs" for on the Internet and who has two kids fathered by two different low life men. I really don't feel sorry for her at all.

I'm in the camp of those who understand the poverty and difficulties for many women trying to earn a living in Colombia.  She finally found a job that is SAFE and where she can make enough money to support herself, her two children, her mother, AND her sister. "Practically a prostitute," hmmm...but she's doing something that's legal and usually not dangerous--unless she makes the mistake of accepting money outside her job...and actually meeting one of her customers.  Mike is an unstable man--one of many.  I hope it's a lesson learned.  

4 minutes ago, CruiseDiva said:

Mike is simply delusional to think he ever had any future with her.

Mike IS delusional, but he has also shown himself to be

• DEMANDING
• CRUEL
• IGNORANT
• NAIVE
• AGGRESSIVE
• RELENTLESS
• DANGEROUS
• SUPERIOR to a woman in a third-world country with a "low" type of job.

[FrancescaFiore]

After watching last night's Jerry Springer Tell All, (and seeing how much trashier it gets next week) I hold my nose and say Caleb & Alina were the least garbagy couple of the season. And that's some bottom of the barrel scraping. 

But between vegan Jasmine begging for Gino's meat, (shudder) and all the talk of his masturbatory habits, (kill me now) and her declarations re: "ball draining" (okay, gouging out my ears and eyes at this point) it was truly one of the grossest things I've ever seen/heard. Who are these monsters??

And what, the producers let the cast see all but the final episode of the season just so they could spring the Zara call on Kim & capture all of her humiliation on camera? Just ghoulish. 

Ben calling Kim a predator was pretty rich. While not wrong, um.. hello, kettle? This is drunk-driving pot calling to tell you that you're black. 

I laughed myself silly when Ben said prior to the Tell All, "I think people are going to be critical of me for not for not pursuing answers from Mahogany more." WHAT?? Dude, you literally flew across the world and stalked her! If anything, he over-pursued her. Jeeeeeezuuus, he's a sociopath.  Also who TF is Jessica?  She wasn't part of the season, but now she's on the Tell-All? Fuckery!

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by FrancescaFiore