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Discussion of Kanye's run for the US Presidency is off-limits here, unless and until the run appears on the show itself, as per our Politics Policy. https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/94644-politics-primetimer-updated-070319

 

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BitterApple

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Heatherchandler, I agree. At the end of the day, life ain't fair. Awards are subjective. If success was based on talent, the Kardashians wouldn't exist. I think Kanye is losing control and panicking. His fashion lines are critically panned, the album is on shaky ground and his marriage is pretty much a sham. He's taking pot shots at Taylor because she's an easy target and it's a way to deflect blame from his own failures.

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iwasish

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Okay, I can't believe I'm about to defend Kanye, but here goes. I think Kanye's rants are more about the political aspect of the music business rather than any personal beef. Taylor's harmless, but honestly she isn't a vocal powerhouse and she's been singing the same tween-y songs about breaking up with her boyfriend for the last ten years. Kanye is delusional, but I don't think he's entirely off base in saying Taylor gets accolades due to being America's Sweetheart rather than having any serious depth as an artist.

Okay, I'm going to go bathe in Lysol now...

It is political. All of these awards shows are. So what if he thinks Beyoncé was better than Taylor? More people that felt differently voted for Taylor. Get over it. I'm sure when he won his awards, there were those who thought others deserved them more. Didn't his mommy ever tell him that "Life isn't always fair"? Is he going to throw a tantrum if North doesn't get first place in her little ballet recitals? What if Penelope wins?  

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seasquared

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Veering off the political aspect of music, can we discuss the fact that this is the SECOND time that wind bag has gone after somebody else's children in his rants. He even apologized for doing it, but then continue to say they were embarrassed by their father.  I would love love LOVE for someone to go off on his children and offer the same apology, pointing out that he clearly feels that tweeting about innocent children is acceptable so his must be fair game as well? (not that I want anyone's children to be fodder, but I just want his hypocrisy to blow up in his face since we KNOW how badly he would pop off if any one dared to breath anything but praise of his children).

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DangerousMinds

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Was that "Watch the Throne"  or "Watch the Thrown"?

 

Clearly more people liked "you know who's" stuff better than yours. Anyway I always thought that great artists aren't looking to get awards  and accolades, that it was the act of creating that drove them. All these awards shows are  a popularity contest and apparently you are not popular enough.

I am not a fan of Taylor, but at least she writes, sings (no auto tune!) and performs her own original music. Does she have dozens of collaborators like Kanye and his crush Beyonce? Does she sample other artists' work and write vulgar "rap" lyrics over them? Enough said.

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Thanks for the link.  Kanye must have been livid:

 

"He said West’s music would not stand the test of time – “unlike other creators in his genre like Jay Z, Tupac, Biggie or even MC Hammer” – and that he did not “open up new avenues of discourse like NWA, or introduce the world to a new art form like Grandmaster Flash, or even meaningfully and memorably address social issues through his music like Marshall, Macklemore and Kendrick”. West’s songwriting, Ezrin wrote, “was sophomoric at best”.

 

“Instead, Kanye’s greatest achievements have been in the form of excessive behaviour, egomaniacal tantrums and tasteless grandstanding,” he wrote, adding that what really annoyed him was that people might think West was an artist. He said he had not listened to West’s album The Life of Pablo, which currently is only available on Tidal."

I think we should set up a GoFundMe to raise money to send Boz Ezrin a really nice gift. Like a car. Or the house right next to Kim & Kanye's.

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Veronique Bette

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I wonder when the Kardashians will admit openly that there is a serious problem with Kanye. Only a clinician can diagnose if he's mentally ill but there's no doubt that the Kardashians would primarily be concerned that he's damaging their brand and would deal with him accordingly. One thing is for sure: He's the father of Kim's two children so he's not going to go away quietly. He'll be in their lives forever whether they like it or not. I sense that their empire is imploding slowly but surely -- a modern true-life version of Poe's The Fall of the House of Usher.

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BitterApple

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Well, Daily Fail is already running stories about Kim's struggle to save the marriage, so Kris is heavily slanting the PR already.

Aside from getting a 5150, I don't know what the Kardashians can do. If Kanye doesn't think he has a problem, how do you convince him to go to treatment?

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howmanywords

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In many cases people with a severe mental illness don't actually realize something is wrong, throw in the fact that Kanye is so hugely narcissistic it only adds to the problem.  We don't know know if Kim or anyone close to him IS trying to get him help. US Weekly has a story with "sources" saying Kim has been trying to get him help and is demanding he get therapy. It doesnt matter if anyone from the K team is leaking this to the press, it probably is true - but you can't force anyone into therapy. Watching his twitter rants has gone from funny to sad for me, because now it almost looks like someone who is near a nervous breakdown. 

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iwasish

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In many cases people with a severe mental illness don't actually realize something is wrong, throw in the fact that Kanye is so hugely narcissistic it only adds to the problem. We don't know know if Kim or anyone close to him IS trying to get him help. US Weekly has a story with "sources" saying Kim has been trying to get him help and is demanding he get therapy. It doesnt matter if anyone from the K team is leaking this to the press, it probably is true - but you can't force anyone into therapy. Watching his twitter rants has gone from funny to sad for me, because now it almost looks like someone who is near a nervous breakdown.

Kims demanding he get help? if he's really got mental issues let's see how compassionate she is. She has little sympathy for Scott and Lamar (pre near death experience) and none at all for Rob. I think Kanye has a drinking problem. He's admitted he was drunk when he pulled the mic from Taylor Swift and I'm betting he works himself into rant with the assistance of booze. It would explain his being seen asleep ( passed out) at a lot of functions. Kim isn't a drinker and hates drunk sloppiness. She's been hard on Kourtney for putting up with Scotts drunken antics and comments on his responsibility as a father, and Scott and Kourt have been together way longer than she and Kanye. Let's see how tolerant she is when it's someone she loves, or will she just kick him to the curb and find a new daddy for her kids. I'm sure Corey has a lot of buddies who would love an introduction.

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Kanye's personality is much stronger and more dominant than Kim's. I can see her suggesting he seek treatment only to back down when he pitches the inevitable fit. If they make it til the end of the year, I'd be shocked.

But will he let her go so easily? And what hell will he put those kids through as he fights for them? I wonder if he might even get violent, given the narcissism.
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mwell345

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Kims demanding he get help? if he's really got mental issues let's see how compassionate she is. She has little sympathy for Scott and Lamar (pre near death experience) and none at all for Rob. I think Kanye has a drinking problem. He's admitted he was drunk when he pulled the mic from Taylor Swift and I'm betting he works himself into rant with the assistance of booze. It would explain his being seen asleep ( passed out) at a lot of functions. Kim isn't a drinker and hates drunk sloppiness. She's been hard on Kourtney for putting up with Scotts drunken antics and comments on his responsibility as a father, and Scott and Kourt have been together way longer than she and Kanye. Let's see how tolerant she is when it's someone she loves, or will she just kick him to the curb and find a new daddy for her kids. I'm sure Corey has a lot of buddies who would love an introduction.

 

 

If he has a drinking problem, we can add to that the stress of the last few weeks - getting his fashion show together, and releasing the new recording.  He appears to be a control freak, and very detail oriented to the point that he probably obsesses about every little thing.  These twitter rants seem to have started after the fashion show, and after Pablo was released.  Could have pushed him to the edge, if not over it.

 

At first, I thought it might be publicity, but I  agree he is having some sort of breakdown and needs help.  Problem will be getting him to admit it because I do think in his mind, he is perfect.

 

As for any Kompassion from Kim - I doubt it too.  Kim is all about Kim, and once Kayne has served his purpose, and his issues are not worth the benefits she draws from the relationship, she'll be out of there.  The rumors have already started and I'm sure the K's are behind at least some of them, spinning it for Kim. 

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straightshooter

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I mentioned this on the Kim thread, but I was just at the store and there were two magazine covers saying that Kim filed and another mentioning The Big "D".  Could be old news, but the first i've seen it, anyway.  None of the mags were People, so I took it with a grain of salt, of course.  

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iwasish

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I mentioned this on the Kim thread, but I was just at the store and there were two magazine covers saying that Kim filed and another mentioning The Big "D". Could be old news, but the first i've seen it, anyway. None of the mags were People, so I took it with a grain of salt, of course.

If it turns out false this week, no worry, eventually it'll happen.

Love how Kim, in the midst of a shitstorm of gossip, just happens to be out and about AND photographed sans wedding ring!!! You know that true stories or not, she's working those tabloids for as much publicity as she can get.!!

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Essy

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I love what Trevor Noah said about Kanye after Kendrick Lamar won at the Grammys. What the hell happened?? He was good in his first couple albums and I think he still has the potential to write good shit. He needs to come back down to earth and get off his high horse. Stop worrying about fashion and get back to the studio. Write about what is happening in the world and make a real difference. This won't happen though. These people live in an alternate reality. And I don't think anyone around him would tell him the truth. They kiss his ass and make his ego bigger. I'm tired of his stupidity.

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Rapper Kanye West caught browsing popular torrent website The Pirate Bay

 

I didn't think about this when the album first came out, but then I read one of the comments after the article, & thought "Of Course!"

 

 

Jay of Sydney
Posted at 5:32 PM Today
Of course he went to Pirate Bay. Who do you think seeded that garbage album in the first place? And how many of the 500,000 "illegal" downloads were by Kanye himself just to boost his perceived popularity?

I don't know why this never occurred to me, but he probably had some download program running on multiple computers.

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howmanywords

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I dont even attempt to try and figure out why Kanye does or says anything but what would he accomplish by being behind all those illegal downloads? Especially when he has a stake in Tidal and how hard he was pushing for people to subscribe? All those illegal downloads ended up being why he lost money. If anything wouldnt he have gained much more by allowing the album to be legally downloaded on Tidal or his website like he had for a very short time? Or even just legally streamed? IF anything he would have gained much more by leaking the album on YouTube or any place where streams will count towards Billboard charts.  Is the title of having "the most illegally downloaded album ever" something really worth bragging about?All the screenshot he put out there of his browser showed me is that he himself is cheap and downloads shit illegally, notice he also had a media downloader and MacKeeper up there while having YouTube open. I mean, I genuinely dont know and he makes zero sense to me. The whole mess with the album was really bizarre especially with how limited he made it. 

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Is the title of having "the most illegally downloaded album ever" something really worth bragging about?

Yep, it "proves" how popular he is, how much people want to hear his music, why, that would make him even more popular than Beyonce! It wouldn't even mean that Tidal lost any money because they weren't "real" downloads, it would just be Kanye faking it.

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mwell345

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At least he is happy that DeCaprio won the Oscar.   I can only imagine the tweets if someone else had won.  

 

(And once again, he is ranting about someone who expressed an honest opinion.  So much for Kim's wish that everyone was a honest as her dear idiot).

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iwasish

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They have pics of him at the Balmain show and he looks like a homeless wino. A dirty looking white hooded jacket covered in pearls..: and pants that are ripped from below the knee to nearly the top of his thighs. Clearly he isn't well endowed or his willie would be visible. And of course he has his ever present scowl on.

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Considering the outrageous amount of illegal downloads the album got IMO its too late to try to go this route. The album is EVERYWHERE circulating for free now illegally. You have to spend the $20 to subscribe to Tidal to stream it, not even download it. For a few hours you were able to download it for $10 on Tidal but that was brief. I can believe Kanye has enough loyal fans to shell out $20 giving Tidal a boost, even doubling I will buy because Tidals numbers have been shit. The app did shoot up to #1 in the itunes store the night of the MSG concert so it definitely got a surge. Look at the hundreds of dollars these people spend on Yeezys. But I think the line of bullshit is that he's saving Tidal.  A company needs ongoing business to keep striving.

http://fortune.com/2016/02/18/500000-kanye-west-life-of-pablo/

 

 

The numbers of people signing up may be accurate, but Tidal has a 30 days free trial period, so maybe that's all it is, people who plan on canceling before the 30 days is up. I hope. 

Sorry for quoting myself, but I wanted it for reference. I was just on Reddit & ran across this thread. I wonder how many people they'll lose.

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BitterApple

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This is actually adorable. Kanye and Tyga dressed up as bunnies yesterday lol Cute how North was able to figure out "daddy" was under there.

https://www.instagram.com/miss.north.west/

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kanye-west-tyga-dress-up-as-the-easter-bunny-video-w200388

That video is super cute. As a kid, I always loved Easter, even more so than Christmas. It's also nice to see "normal" Kanye loosening up and doing something fun for his daughter.

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