S02.E08: B Is for Brain

[formerlyfreedom]

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Kristen, David, and Ben are sent to Cornell University, at the request of Bishop Marx, to investigate an electrode-based experiment dubbed the "God Helmet."

Dropping Sunday, September 5, 2021.

[Snazzy Daisy]

Some weird moments in this episode:

- Kristen rehearsing & putting on a fake smile to greet her husband.

- Kristen and Andy’s masked & gagged sex.

- Lynn seeing Kristen in sexy robe & tiger mask.

- Kristen seeing a vision within a vision while wearing the God’s Helmet.

- Brutal murder of Orson LeRoux.

- David wearing the God’s Helmet and only seeing plain darkness.

- Dr Boggs indirectly asking Kristen; Andy or David?

- Kristen attacks that asshole in the grocery store with a bag of fries.

- Kristen’s murder maps hidden in the red diary, a gift from Leland.

- Kristen’s new habit of burning herself with the crucifix.

- Sheryl “communicating” with Eddie the doll in Andy’s presence.

- Sister Andrea pulls out a knife on Leland and he says to her “your ass is mine”.

Errr for once, I agree with Leland… David is “delicious”! 😘👍😅

[LADreamr]

5 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Kristen attacks that asshole in the grocery store with a bag of fries.

I never advocate for violence, but there was a certain vicarious enjoyment of that moment.

[Snazzy Daisy]

32 minutes ago, LADreamr said:

I never advocate for violence, but there was a certain vicarious enjoyment of that moment.

I had the similar feeling when Sister Andrea sprinkled Leland with the “holy water”.

The look on Andy’s face during the attack is priceless!

Btw, what is this?? 

[UnoAgain]

4 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

I had the similar feeling when Sister Andrea sprinkled Leland with the “holy water”.

The look on Andy’s face during the attack is priceless!

Btw, what is this?? 

The demon goo from last week.. It was oozing off of the cabinet at the monastery.. And I guess some followed Kristen home... 

[Chaos Theory]

I love when Evil gets especially weird.  Slightly disappointed that it wasn’t actually David’s vision of Kristen killing LeRoux but it still worked as a vision inside a vision and a marker of where Kristen’s mind is at.   She definitely is in a weird place and it is more then just picking between David and Andy.   

Loved  Leland and Sister Andrea confronting  each other.   Did anyone else notice Sister Andrea order the priest out of the room and he took a beat and followed her order?   I think there is something more to the nun.     

And yeah Sheryl communicating with the weird doll is all kinds of creepy.  
 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Chaos Theory

[Snazzy Daisy]

7 minutes ago, UnoAgain said:

The demon goo from last week.. It was oozing off of the cabinet at the monastery.. And I guess some followed Kristen home... 

For real? 😳

I may need to watch last week’s episode again… 😬

[WAnglais1]

Andrea Martin = National Treasure. I have never seen her give a bad performance.

Thanks for the clarity on the Acid!Goo. I had no idea what was going on there. 

[Annber03]

Ooookay, this episode was a real trip. I think I'm with David, I don't think it'd be wise for the Church to use that helmet thing. Yeah, people reported good experiences, but...there's just way too much potential for things to go bad there. I can see the purpose of that thing being abused and manipulated for very awful purposes. 

I did love the whole thing about Keith Moon, though :D. 

And speaking of David, oh, man, I breathed SUCH a major sigh of relief when it was revealed that he didn't actually have that vision of Kristen killing LeRoux. Wow, that whole segment was intense as hell, especially when they kept going back to showing Kristen driving around the city and everything (for the briefest of moments I was afraid she' get in a car accident, or come close to doing so). Sure would've been interesting had David actually had that vision, though, 'cause then not only would he have to confront her about it, but then there'd be the issue of if and how he told Ben about what he'd seen (and considering Ben's been suspicious of her already as it is, it wouldn't take much, I don't think, for David to tell Ben what he'd "seen"). 

But nope. All in Kristen's mind. So fascinating, the way her guilt is starting to eat away at her and affect everything she's thinking and doing - that stuff with her basically self-harming with the crucifix was genuinely disturbing. I really feel for Andy, poor guy is so incredibly confused about everything going on. I mean, sure, you expect some changes when you're away that long, but this...this is a whole other kind of unusual. That sexual encounter between them was interesting, too (and oh, my god, when Lynn saw her mom in the bathroom with the tiger mask on...XD). And then the stuff with the drawings of homes1 What in the hell? Interesting, too, that she's keeping all of that in one of those journals she'd been so freaked out over Leland giving to the girls last season. Hm. 

And yes, that scene at the supermarket was both starling and kind of funny all at the same time :p. 

At least now we have a clear picture of exactly how things went down when Kristen did confront LeRoux, which is interesting. That was a pretty brutal attack she unleashed on him. Brief though it was, she's definitely downplayed just how violent the attack was. No wonder she's so freaked out and struggling - it's very unnerving to realize just how violent you can be under certain circumstances. Add in that she's getting away with it besides, and...yeah. That's gonna mess with your headspace a little, for sure. 

Also liked Boggs and Kristen talking about the stuff with Andy and David, and what they each represent for her. Yeah, if I were Andy, I'd be very nervous about this marriage going forward. His idea is interesting, but Kristen's also right to question his decision-making here, too (her denial about the effect of her job on her behavior aside, that is, 'cause, uh, yeah, he's got a point there, Kristen). Especially since she knows that him getting a new job and staying at home will not magically solve these issues they're having. 

As for Ben, man, the poor guy's really getting put through his own wringer here this season, isn't he? That ghost was freaky. I did like learning more about his mom and his relationship with her, painful though it clearly was in a lot of ways. Certainly explains some of his guilt over whatever went on with that old job he had. I've been enjoying this exploration of Ben's backstory this season thus far, so I'm hoping we'll continue down this path in regards to his mom and his old job and everything, 'cause there's so much more I want to learn!

3 hours ago, WAnglais1 said:

Andrea Martin = National Treasure. I have never seen her give a bad performance.

I love her. And I love Sister Andrea. Leland thinking he can mess with her...that's cute., that really is :p. I loved the way she stood there with that knife - she looked seriously intimidating. I loved her advice to David, too, about how to better focus and channel his thoughts and everything. She is such a good, much needed source of support and advice for him right now, and I can't wait to see how they'll continue to work together to fight, and hopefully defeat, Leland and any other evil coming their way. 

Yeah. This is another one I may need to watch a few more times through to properly absorb all the weird stuff that went down. Good episode, though. 

[phalange]

This show is so delightfully strange. It's telling that Kristen has to practice being happy to see Andy and that she can't have sex with him without wearing masks that hide their faces. That's about way more than just a kink. And poor Lynn is probably scarred for life after seeing Kristen with that tiger mask in the bathroom. I guess some of the demon goo from the monastery "attached" itself to Kristen somehow. Is it because she was the one who spoke and opened the cabinet containing the demon or is it because the demon is drawn to whatever "evil" is in her? Probably a bit of both. 

Kristen's guilt is manifesting hard. Not only is she burning crucifixes onto her skin, she had a vision of David finding out she killed LeRoux. It was believable that it was David's vision considering he already had that dream of Kristen walking through the field toward a demon, but I like that it was actually just Kristen's conscience. I hope this leads to her telling David the truth.

So Andy found drawings of floor plans in the red demon diary. What I'm wondering is: why would Laura, the youngest, have any idea what those drawings were? It would make sense if it were Lexis because Kristen asked her to lie, but why would Laura know anything about that? And why would Andy automatically believe what she said? 

I love Sister Andrea telling Leland to fuck around and find out. She sees right through his act. 

[Annber03]

1 minute ago, phalange said:

And poor Lynn is probably scarred for life after seeing Kristen with that tiger mask in the bathroom.

I really feel for poor Lynn. That girl has to be wondering what in the world's going on with her family lately. Her mom's wearing freaky masks and acting strange and sneaking out at odd hours, leaving her in charge. Her dad's been away longer than they'd initially expected. She's got one sister who's had heart issues in the past, another who's also been exhibiting odd behavior and having weird things going on with her teeth, and then there's the third, who thought she was seeing zombies....  I wouldn't blame her if she started feeling stressed out herself as she tries to make sense of everything and basically keep an eye on everyone else. 

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What I'm wondering is: why would Laura, the youngest, have any idea what those drawings were? It would make sense if it were Lexis because Kristen asked her to lie, but why would Laura know anything about that? And why would Andy automatically believe what she said?

I was wondering the same thing! And when would she have even seen them? 

[Athena5217]

The sex with animal masks may be the most disturbing thing I have seen on a non-HBO show.

I bet Cheryl was thinking, “That’s my girl!” when Andy told her about Kristen hitting the guy in the supermarket.

[phalange]

3 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I wouldn't blame her if she started feeling stressed out herself as she tries to make sense of everything and basically keep an eye on everyone else. 

I was wondering the same thing! And when would she have even seen them? 

And in the preview 

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it shows Kristen and Andy telling the girls Lynn will be in charge. She's basically like a third parent. To be fair, she's probably the most responsible person in that house right now. lol

I wonder if Andy is lying, like maybe he's trying to catch Kristen in a lie, because the whole thing with Laura knowing about those drawings makes zero sense. Even if she saw Kristen making them, Kristen wouldn't tell her what they are. 

[raven]

23 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Did anyone else notice Sister Andrea order the priest out of the room and he took a beat and followed her order?   I think there is something more to the nun.  

This was my favorite bit "Father...please leave"  And he does!  Though the good Sister pulling the knife out was also awesome.

Not my fave of the season, though it's Evil, so I still enjoyed it.   Everything just seemed kind of random.

Andy better watch his back around Sheryl.  She lied to him, saying that Kristin asked her to move in and then communing with EddieMyEddie right in front of him.

I always laugh when Andy returns from guiding clients up a mountain (wasn't it Everest?) with his one backpack that looks like it should have the REI tags hanging off of it.  Speaking of REI, I don't think MaybeEvilKristin wants Andy to be around all that much, awesome masked sex not withstanding.

I would imagine there are repercussions to Kristin cracking that guy with the french fries.  I reallly wanted to know if the clerk just rung them out after or what, lol!

 

[OtterMommy]

51 minutes ago, raven said:

I always laugh when Andy returns from guiding clients up a mountain (wasn't it Everest?) with his one backpack that looks like it should have the REI tags hanging off of it.  Speaking of REI, I don't think MaybeEvilKristin wants Andy to be around all that much, awesome masked sex not withstanding.

I have so many thoughts about the fight they had when he suggested he sell the business and she quit her job.  On the one hand, yeah...he does need to be around more and I can't imagine that their business brings in any profit whatsoever.  On the other hand, even though her job may be bringing her face to face with the minions of Satan, I still really resented the fact that he expected her to quit.  Even putting aside the fact that she is a grown ass woman and has  the right to have a job she finds fulfilling, she had a point that it was her job that paid the bills and provided the benefits.  On yet another hand (I'm apparently an octopus), I can't imagine that the Catholic church pays that well or that their benefits are that great.  She probably could make more money by quitting, starting her own practice, and buying the family health insurance.

Mostly, though, I don't understand what the point of Andy is.  He could have fallen off Mt. Everest and it wouldn't change this show one bit.

Also, why hasn't anyone (other than the possible spawn of Satan daughter) expressed any concern over the fact that Sheryl is worshipping a creepy doll?

ETA: I forgot to mention I am a little relieve that we aren't just over the fact that Kristin is a murderer after her friend basically admitted that she knew and then declared it an unsolved/cold case.  I was afraid that would just be the end of that...

[Chaos Theory]

Andy said it himself:  climbing is a luxury business.   It was probably profitable before Covid (even if Covid only sorta exists in the Evil Universe the idea that “times have changed” certainly has) but like alot of other luxuries it was probably among the first things everyone but the exceptionally rich  dropped.    

 

Then Kristen gets this super steady job working for the Catholic Church that seems like the answer to all their problems.   They can still keep their dream company open while Kristen keeps things running at home.  The problem is every time Andy comes home their is a huge disconnect.   Add to that Kristen is both feeling remorse for killing LRoux and is a little gitty that she got away with it.    Like LeRoux said the first murder is always the hardest.     We know she is capable of sudden intense violence after what happened at the store.  So she is in real danger of not just letting evil into her life but succumbing to it.

Edited September 6, 2021 by Chaos Theory

[Anela]

On 9/5/2021 at 12:40 PM, Chaos Theory said:

I love when Evil gets especially weird.  Slightly disappointed that it wasn’t actually David’s vision of Kristen killing LeRoux but it still worked as a vision inside a vision and a marker of where Kristen’s mind is at.   She definitely is in a weird place and it is more then just picking between David and Andy.   

Loved  Leland and Sister Andrea confronting  each other.   Did anyone else notice Sister Andrea order the priest out of the room and he took a beat and followed her order?   I think there is something more to the nun.     

And yeah Sheryl communicating with the weird doll is all kinds of creepy. 

I was glad that they didn't just forget LeRoux, and we saw what happened. I realized that she was the one having the vision, when she was at the therapist's office, and then went to David's room. That was "hell" for her. Someone she cares about, discovering what she did. Her one friend knows, but she did nothing to really alleviate the guilt. 

I guess it says something about this show, that even before she whacked the guy with the frozen chips, the oddest scene to me, was just seeing them in a regular store. No cozy-but-creepy church room. No dark science lab. No George appearing in someone's dreams. 

I love the nun so much, and I did notice the priest just taking her order, and leaving. I like seeing Leland nervous. I don't like that Kristen seems to be turning into her mother, but that smackdown was also a thing of beauty. 

I'm glad that her husband is now there for their daughters.

On 9/5/2021 at 7:01 PM, Annber03 said:

Ooookay, this episode was a real trip. I think I'm with David, I don't think it'd be wise for the Church to use that helmet thing. Yeah, people reported good experiences, but...there's just way too much potential for things to go bad there. I can see the purpose of that thing being abused and manipulated for very awful purposes. 

I did love the whole thing about Keith Moon, though :D. 

And speaking of David, oh, man, I breathed SUCH a major sigh of relief when it was revealed that he didn't actually have that vision of Kristen killing LeRoux. Wow, that whole segment was intense as hell, especially when they kept going back to showing Kristen driving around the city and everything (for the briefest of moments I was afraid she' get in a car accident, or come close to doing so). Sure would've been interesting had David actually had that vision, though, 'cause then not only would he have to confront her about it, but then there'd be the issue of if and how he told Ben about what he'd seen (and considering Ben's been suspicious of her already as it is, it wouldn't take much, I don't think, for David to tell Ben what he'd "seen"). 

But nope. All in Kristen's mind. So fascinating, the way her guilt is starting to eat away at her and affect everything she's thinking and doing - that stuff with her basically self-harming with the crucifix was genuinely disturbing. I really feel for Andy, poor guy is so incredibly confused about everything going on. I mean, sure, you expect some changes when you're away that long, but this...this is a whole other kind of unusual. That sexual encounter between them was interesting, too (and oh, my god, when Lynn saw her mom in the bathroom with the tiger mask on...XD). And then the stuff with the drawings of homes1 What in the hell? Interesting, too, that she's keeping all of that in one of those journals she'd been so freaked out over Leland giving to the girls last season. Hm. 

And yes, that scene at the supermarket was both starling and kind of funny all at the same time :p. 

At least now we have a clear picture of exactly how things went down when Kristen did confront LeRoux, which is interesting. That was a pretty brutal attack she unleashed on him. Brief though it was, she's definitely downplayed just how violent the attack was. No wonder she's so freaked out and struggling - it's very unnerving to realize just how violent you can be under certain circumstances. Add in that she's getting away with it besides, and...yeah. That's gonna mess with your headspace a little, for sure. 

Also liked Boggs and Kristen talking about the stuff with Andy and David, and what they each represent for her. Yeah, if I were Andy, I'd be very nervous about this marriage going forward. His idea is interesting, but Kristen's also right to question his decision-making here, too (her denial about the effect of her job on her behavior aside, that is, 'cause, uh, yeah, he's got a point there, Kristen). Especially since she knows that him getting a new job and staying at home will not magically solve these issues they're having. 

As for Ben, man, the poor guy's really getting put through his own wringer here this season, isn't he? That ghost was freaky. I did like learning more about his mom and his relationship with her, painful though it clearly was in a lot of ways. Certainly explains some of his guilt over whatever went on with that old job he had. I've been enjoying this exploration of Ben's backstory this season thus far, so I'm hoping we'll continue down this path in regards to his mom and his old job and everything, 'cause there's so much more I want to learn!

I love her. And I love Sister Andrea. Leland thinking he can mess with her...that's cute., that really is :p. I loved the way she stood there with that knife - she looked seriously intimidating. I loved her advice to David, too, about how to better focus and channel his thoughts and everything. She is such a good, much needed source of support and advice for him right now, and I can't wait to see how they'll continue to work together to fight, and hopefully defeat, Leland and any other evil coming their way. 

Yeah. This is another one I may need to watch a few more times through to properly absorb all the weird stuff that went down. Good episode, though. 

Oh, I forgot about the bit where the one priest said that it would help to "bring people to god". Yeah, that's definitely manipulating people. As far as I could tell, they saw their guilt, and their own visions of hell - although I thought that Kristen's would involve something we saw in the previews (getting it out of the way, without actually "going there"). 

The husband: was his mention of the economy, their way of acknowledging covid, or did I miss something? Acknowledging it, without actually bringing it into the show. "ten people dropped out."  

I know her mother wasn't entirely grounded before all of this, but I wonder if this doll and candles have been behind *her* behaviour. Kristen - I didn't know if she was self-harming/doing penance, or if it meant the djinn was still around.

7 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Andy said it himself:  climbing is a luxury business.   It was probably profitable before Covid (even if Covid only sorta exists in the Evil Universe the idea that “times have changed” certainly has) but like alot of other luxuries it was probably among the first things everyone but the exceptionally rich  dropped.    

Then Kristen gets this super steady job working for the Catholic Church that seems like the answer to all their problems.   They can still keep their dream company open while Kristen keeps things running at home.  The problem is every time Andy comes home their is a huge disconnect.   Add to that Kristen is both feeling remorse for killing LRoux and is a little gitty that she got away with it.    Like LeRoux said the first murder is always the hardest.     We know she is capable of sudden intense violence after what happened at the store.  So she is in real danger of not just letting evil into her life but succumbing to it.

She also cut Leland's neck, and told him how long he had to get to the hospital, in season one, when he first threatened her children. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

I hope the demon goo’s mystery will be addressed in incoming episode... 😣

I rewatched S02E07. The goo in the monastery has normal sticking ability while the goo at Kristen’s has supernatural penetrating power.

Oh Eddie my Eddie, can you gimme some answers on this please! 👻

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by SnazzyDaisy

[Annber03]

11 minutes ago, Anela said:

The husband: was his mention of the economy, their way of acknowledging covid, or did I miss something? Acknowledging it, without actually bringing it into the show. "ten people dropped out."  

I was wondering the same thing. I read that as a nod to the pandemic, too, but yeah, you wouldn't know that one was descending on the area otherwise, no. I read an article a while back that indicated the show wouldn't make a big thing out of the pandemic, more just give quiet little nods to it here and there, but yeah, it does seem a bit jarring to hear that explanation, or see that scene in an earlier episode where David saw a news bulletin about the first reports of illnesses online, and then otherwise just not have it there. Course, that does add to the eerie nature of everything going on, too - the team is dealing with all these personal traumas and such, and all the while, the pandemic is just quietly, ominously lurking around the edges of the story. 

[snoopypez]

I find the scenes with all the girls and their parents, separate and together, to be so endearing and cozy. Andy and Kristen are both such good parents when not away for months or possibly possessed! 

I'm really gonna need some explanation about Eddie sometime. 🤪

The murder drawings or whatever they were... I didn't miss those being shown before, did I? Because they seemed to come from nowhere! I was extremely disturbed by the masked sex and goo. I love Sister Andrea. And I loved Kristen at therapy with Kurt being like "well that's NOT my advice", though I am still not here for the Kristen/David stuff. 

I'm also on the side of those that at least half-supported her hitting that guy at the grocery store. Yeah yeah, violence bad, but like. He kinda deserved it. 😇

Lastly, I love Aasif and also Ben's wanting to see Keith Moon. Hee. 

Edited September 7, 2021 by snoopypez

[Anela]

6 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

I hope the demon goo’s mystery will be addressed in incoming episode... 😣

I rewatched S02E07. The goo in the monastery has normal sticking ability while the goo at Kristen’s has supernatural penetrating power.

Oh Eddie my Eddie, can you gimme some answers on this please! 👻

 

I hope they don't bring any kind of demon baby into it - any more than they did in the first season (in that field). They've already potentially gone the Rosemary's Baby route, with one of the daughters. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

3 hours ago, Anela said:

I hope they don't bring any kind of demon baby into it - any more than they did in the first season (in that field). They've already potentially gone the Rosemary's Baby route, with one of the daughters. 

We are still left wondering on several intriguing arcs - the prophet Grace, the Poveglia Codex & the Sixty Sigils, the devil/goat therapist, the corrupted eggs at RSM Fertility etc. etc.

If TPTB really want to revisit the demon baby story, instead of creating a new “case of the week”, maybe they should do a quick follow-up on what’s going on with Eleanor Chakiris’ demon baby (from S01E13).

[blixie]

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The demon goo from last week.. It was oozing off of the cabinet at the monastery.. And I guess some followed Kristen home... 

I wish we'd had some follow up there it was very Alien blood-esque but, yet, we never see the damage from floor to floor? Mm Eddie at work?!

Having watched The Columnist before the season started has really added a LOT to the dark side of Kristen storyline. Maybe just be NICE buddy, don't cut lines and acted like an entitled misogynist, she can do worse things to you guy, I've seen it. 

I am still kind of confused by the writing around Andy, we get constant allusions from Sheryl about Ryan Reynolds junior being a douchebag and we know he's overly comfortable with being an absentee dad/husband, but I feel like there has got to be more there, Instead in this ep we're meant to relate to him and see Kristen's descent into possible darkness as the issue. It just feels odd to have five kids with him before you realize eh, not so great, and honestly can't even stand to look him the face while we bang.  I guess Lila is what 6 or 7? or is she 8 if it's been roughly the last eight years they've lived mostly separate lives with just rando drop ins for kids time/sex than I guess I can see it. But what whoops five kids!!! Also if Sheryl doesn't like him, maybe he's fine?

Edited September 7, 2021 by blixie

[Scout Finch]

19 hours ago, snoopypez said:

I'm also on the side of those that at least half-supported her hitting that guy at the grocery store. Yeah yeah, violence bad, but like. He kinda deserved it. 😇

I wondered if he had a "KEN WINS" license plate. 😏

[SharonH58]

On 9/6/2021 at 1:22 PM, raven said:

Andy better watch his back around Sheryl.  She lied to him, saying that Kristin asked her to move in and then communing with EddieMyEddie right in front of him.

 

 

when did she get that?

[ferjy]

On 9/5/2021 at 1:37 PM, UnoAgain said:

And I guess some followed Kristen home... 

Only fans of this show could utter that line in such a matter-of-fact way. Just everyday conversation  😄

 

[kwnyc]

I live in Queens, and I've had arguments in supermarkets about cutting the line...though I never hit anyone with frozen food!

And evil Grandma did have one thing right when she said Andy couldn't waltz out of town for months on end, then come back and find everything the same.

I hope David can rewire his brain fast. As Sister Andrea said: "We need you."

[HerkyJerky]

On 9/7/2021 at 12:06 PM, blixie said:

Having watched The Columnist before the season started has really added a LOT to the dark side of Kristen storyline

Same!😈

On 9/7/2021 at 12:06 PM, blixie said:

Having watched The Columnist before the season started has really added a LOT to the dark side of Kristen storyline.

Btw, for people who have watched that movie, I can hand-wave somebody cutting in front of me at the grocery store but I CANNOT STAND noise, so what she did to her neighbor was perfectly understandable! LOL! 😈

[snoopypez]

On 9/7/2021 at 1:06 PM, blixie said:

I am still kind of confused by the writing around Andy, we get constant allusions from Sheryl about Ryan Reynolds junior being a douchebag and we know he's overly comfortable with being an absentee dad/husband, but I feel like there has got to be more there, Instead in this ep we're meant to relate to him and see Kristen's descent into possible darkness as the issue. It just feels odd to have five kids with him before you realize eh, not so great, and honestly can't even stand to look him the face while we bang.  I guess Lila is what 6 or 7? or is she 8 if it's been roughly the last eight years they've lived mostly separate lives with just rando drop ins for kids time/sex than I guess I can see it. But what whoops five kids!!! Also if Sheryl doesn't like him, maybe he's fine?

It's four kids, and I never really got the idea that he's only ever dropped in for knocking her up and then leaving. I do agree that there's a disconnect between how some talk about Andy and what we've seen of him--in my opinion, when he's there and onscreen, he seems like a good, loving father and husband. Obviously flawed for being away so often, but supposedly that's going to change anyway soon. Plus last season, he told Kristen it was her turn to be the one doing the climbing and he'd stay home, she just didn't take him up on it.

Also, when he was around last season, he and Kristen seemed very much still in love and a like an average married couple that has disagreements and the like, which is all the more reason for him to think Kristen's changed a lot. Because she has! 

I don't particularly hold it against Sheryl for not liking him, because she IS Kristen's mother and would naturally care about her daughter being more or less abandoned, but on the other hand, she also chose her boyfriend over her daughter and granddaughters soooo...

Anyway! I personally hope that if Kristen and Andy do end up no longer together (as the show sure seems to be heading towards) I hope it's a mutual separation, or mostly his decision. Not because I don't love Kristen and am on Andy's side totally or anything, but like. She's possibly possessed and emotionally cheating on him anyway. 😜

[Paloma]

On 9/6/2021 at 1:22 PM, raven said:

I would imagine there are repercussions to Kristin cracking that guy with the french fries. 

A guy like that would definitely press charges. It's unrealistic that she had no consequences, police friend or not.

[libgirl2]

I have recently started to watch this show and just saw this episode last night. I am also a major Keith Moon fan and never expected to hear his name on a show like this, let alone that someone "saw" him and  he mentioned his chauffer. He had a very hard time with that event and often, when in a depressed mood would talk about it.