Nitpicking

[Kohola3]

I should probably stop watching reruns but they are on early in the morning and I can't stand the news so.....

 

My nitpick is where Lorelai's debutante dress won't zip.  The actress playing teen Lorelai has about a 17 inch waist and is flat as a board (clearly no bumps as she and Emily tug at the dress to close it) yet we're supposed to believe that teen Lorelai had gained so much weight that it wouldn't close.

[timimouse]

I should probably stop watching reruns but they are on early in the morning and I can't stand the news so.....

 

My nitpick is where Lorelai's debutante dress won't zip.  The actress playing teen Lorelai has about a 17 inch waist and is flat as a board (clearly no bumps as she and Emily tug at the dress to close it) yet we're supposed to believe that teen Lorelai had gained so much weight that it wouldn't close.

LOL. I totally get why that would bug you, but to be fair, I weigh 100lb and if I put on even 5 lbs, I have clothes that will not fit. And my friends are in awe because they can't even notice the weight gain. 

[txhorns79]

LOL. I totally get why that would bug you, but to be fair, I weigh 100lb and if I put on even 5 lbs, I have clothes that will not fit. And my friends are in awe because they can't even notice the weight gain.

 

True, and if the dress was already altered to fit her at a specific size, even some otherwise unnoticeable weight gain might be enough to make it too tight. 

[LeafontheWind]

This might be the wrong thread for this particular nitpick, but Season 1 is running on the UP network right now and I happened to catch (okay, fine, I watch every day when I get home from work...) Kiss and Tell. Dean asks when a newcomer gets to suggest a movie and throws out Boogie Nights as his choice. In what world would that be a good movie to watch with your potential girlfriend and HER MOTHER! And yet Rory thinks that Lorelai's only objection to it would be the presence of Marky Mark?

[txhorns79]

Dean asks when a newcomer gets to suggest a movie and throws out Boogie Nights as his choice. In what world would that be a good movie to watch with your potential girlfriend and HER MOTHER! And yet Rory thinks that Lorelai's only objection to it would be the presence of Marky Mark?

 

I would think for a normal mother/daughter, yes, a movie about one man's adventures through the late 70s/early 80s porn industry is not the best choice for a movie they would watch together.  With Lorelai and Rory though, all bets are off.  They probably would just wonder why the movie doesn't have a theme song, and make quips about the difficulties of having sex in roller skates.   

[greekmom]

Never watched the series when it was originally on. Now catching it on Netflix.  My biggest nitpick has to be with how these two girls eat and stay so thin.  No one would be around 100 pounds if they ate the way they do.  That and the fact that Lorelai can afford all that take out and eating at Luke's everyday for breakfast and occasional dinners (besides chinese food, Al's house of pancakes and pizza).  

[txhorns79]

That and the fact that Lorelai can afford all that take out and eating at Luke's everyday for breakfast and occasional dinners (besides chinese food, Al's house of pancakes and pizza).

 

Lorelai's spending habits versus her actual income are an ongoing topic of discussion.  The best I can come up with is that for all of Lorelai's hard work and advancement since leaving her parents' home, her big weakness is that she's extremely financially irresponsible.  Like we saw with the episode involving the termites, all it takes is one big expense, and she's essentially destitute.     

[Eyes High]

My biggest nitpick has to be with how these two girls eat and stay so thin.  No one would be around 100 pounds if they ate the way they do.

 

I can buy Rory being that tiny at that age, since I knew girls in high school who ate like horses and remained stick thin (and who weren't bulimic, as far as I know). I have more trouble with a woman of Lorelai's age eating that amount and staying thin, since those naturally stick thin girls usually see their metabolisms slow down significantly as they age. Childbirth and/or aging usually seem to put an end to the thin girl's lament that she can't gain weight no matter what she tries.

 

Rory and Lorelai eating large amounts of unhealthy food--although if you're eating 3,000 calories worth of impeccably healthy food as opposed to 3,000 calories worth of burgers and fries, you'll still gain weight, barring Olympic-level athlete training--and remaining tiny is a bit of a bind. On the one hand, it's extremely unrealistic. On the other hand, it's good to see women on TV who enjoy eating and taking pleasure in food without it becoming some kind of snide joke about their sad, emotionally empty existences (as opposed to, say, Liz Lemon on 30 Rock, whose obsession with food is played for laughs). Sookie is another female character who takes pleasure in preparing and eating food without it being some sort of joke at her expense.

 

I do call bullshit on Lorelai and Rory eating all that garbage, not to mention drinking all that coffee, and having flawless skin, though. No one's genes are that good.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Eyes High

[DisneyBoy]

I never really paid much attention to the discrepancies between their diets and their appearances when the show was first on, but it's amazing how your perspective changes with age. Lauren Graham's physique is completely incompatible with Lorelai's lifestyle. She looks like she does yoga weekly, but she really just sits on the couch eating junk? Suuuure...

And this might be a strange nitpick to mention, but did we ever see proof of Luke's "great butt" that Patty and Babette pointed out was one of his best features? That comment always bugged me because it was stated as fact...and yet Luke always wears long oversized flannel shirts and baggy jeans. If he did have a great posterior, it certainly wasn't plainly visible to the point where you could compare it to that of a wedding cake topper...

Again, kind of a weird thing to bring up, but I always scratched my head when they said that. Complimenting his broad shoulders or sturdy frame would have made more sense, but been less funny. Maybe it was just a way to compliment Scott.

[Iseut]

Maybe they were reminiscing to Luke's high school days, when his apparently perfect butt was visible in track shorts? Which makes it creepier, but Patty did also get a little creepy with Dean and pretty much every other man in Stars Hollow, so it wouldn't be out of the question for her. 

[solotrek]

Which makes it creepier, but Patty did also get a little creepy with Dean and pretty much every other man in Stars Hollow, so it wouldn't be out of the question for her. 

I'm not sure if this is a nitpick or unpopular opinion (or both), but I thought Patty and Babbette creeping on Dean (when he was under age) was both inappropriate and just not funny. If they were men creeping on Rory, we wouldn't think it was charming or funny at all. A gender swap doesn't change things for me.

 

So when Max and Lorelai meet for the first time at the parent's night at Chilton, Max and the other parents are talking about the AP exam. Based on what Max is focusing on teaching, it's obviously AP Lit, a class usually for seniors. College Board doesn't restrict the grade the student is in, but it seems odd that it's an entire sophomore class that's in AP Lit. I suppose we can write it off as a "Chilton thing". But the biggest issue is when Max says that the next AP exam is some Saturday of next month. AP exams are only offered once a year in May (this is the beginning of the season so unless there's a seismic time warp...), and they certainly aren't on Saturdays. Seeing as to how strict College Board is about the exams, there's no way it's a "Chilton thing". (Seriously, we took our AP exams off school campus. One kid in our class accidentally took a piece of paper out of the AP calc exam onto the bus after the exam. The chaperones basically had to lock down the bus, call the people at college board, and sort this whole thing out in a way that all our tests didn't get invalidated.) It's clearly not the next big exam for the class he's talking about, because that was during the regular school day. And it's a waste of everyones time to take any sort of mock AP  exam that early on because you haven't read the necessary texts yet. And as high school sophomores, there's not much room to BS through it because you don't have extra 1-2 years of books under your belt. It's just bizarre to me.

[timimouse]

So when Max and Lorelai meet for the first time at the parent's night at Chilton, Max and the other parents are talking about the AP exam. Based on what Max is focusing on teaching, it's obviously AP Lit, a class usually for seniors. College Board doesn't restrict the grade the student is in, but it seems odd that it's an entire sophomore class that's in AP Lit. I suppose we can write it off as a "Chilton thing". But the biggest issue is when Max says that the next AP exam is some Saturday of next month. AP exams are only offered once a year in May (this is the beginning of the season so unless there's a seismic time warp...), and they certainly aren't on Saturdays. Seeing as to how strict College Board is about the exams, there's no way it's a "Chilton thing". (Seriously, we took our AP exams off school campus. One kid in our class accidentally took a piece of paper out of the AP calc exam onto the bus after the exam. The chaperones basically had to lock down the bus, call the people at college board, and sort this whole thing out in a way that all our tests didn't get invalidated.) It's clearly not the next big exam for the class he's talking about, because that was during the regular school day. And it's a waste of everyones time to take any sort of mock AP  exam that early on because you haven't read the necessary texts yet. And as high school sophomores, there's not much room to BS through it because you don't have extra 1-2 years of books under your belt. It's just bizarre to me.

 

I really appreciate this because it has always bugged me but because I am not from the American academic system (at least not until later down in life), I wasn't sure if it was a legit nitpick or not. But I couldn't understand why this big important exam would be held on a saturday and why were they taking it at that level...

[Kohola3]

The marzipan drama just bugged the heck out of me.  They act like there were being forced to eat rotting garbage or something.  Marzipan is a mild candy made with ground almonds, for heaven's sake.   Hardly anything to require such over the top reactions from everyone.

[muessigkeit]

Agreed. Though, I feel like I've seen this "marzipan is disgusting" joke before in US shows and as a European I just don't get it. Marzipan is candy; why would you treat it like a delicacy that needs the most refined taste buds to appreciate in the first place?

[Smad]

Guess I'm going to join the other Euros when it comes to not getting it. Marzipan is freaking yummy, whether it comes as a cake or candy. And they act like its something made of pure vinegar where your hair stands up and your gag reflex works overtime. The hell??

 

"That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo!"

[txhorns79]

"That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo!"

 

That's from Buffy, no?  Love it.

 

Here is a nitpick.  I understand that Rory's admission to Chilton came unexpectedly, but based on what we had seen, Lorelai had been trying for some time to get Rory into the school.  Presumably that meant her end game was for Rory to attend that school.  Given what we saw of Lorelai's finances, how did she ever expect to pay for Chilton?  I don't remember any discussion that Rory was supposed to get some kind of scholarship or anything that had fallen through. 

[solotrek]

Maybe she didn't expect the $5000 up front.

[txhorns79]

Maybe she didn't expect the $5000 up front.

 

Wouldn't the whole payment process be explained when you are applying to school?  It just was odd to me that she seemed entirely unprepared to pay for Chilton, when a school like that, say in 2000, could easily be 20,000 or so a year, when she appeared to have been working hard to get Rory admitted.    

[Ms Blue Jay]

Rory and Lorelai eating large amounts of unhealthy food--although if you're eating 3,000 calories worth of impeccably healthy food as opposed to 3,000 calories worth of burgers and fries, you'll still gain weight, barring Olympic-level athlete training--and remaining tiny is a bit of a bind. On the one hand, it's extremely unrealistic. On the other hand, it's good to see women on TV who enjoy eating and taking pleasure in food without it becoming some kind of snide joke about their sad, emotionally empty existences (as opposed to, say, Liz Lemon on 30 Rock, whose obsession with food is played for laughs). Sookie is another female character who takes pleasure in preparing and eating food without it being some sort of joke at her expense.

 

 

I've always seen this in a different way.  I absolutely hate the phenomenon (Debra Messing when she was thin on Will & Grace, Sandra Bullock in every single movie she does after she became powerful enough to give input on her character, and Gilmore Girls) of thin actresses playing characters who are pigs.  And we're supposed to laugh because it's just oh so hilarious!  It's like the phenomenon of models and actresses who say their diet is burgers and they don't work out at all.  You'll notice that only some actors are extremely honest about their work outs and how strict they are with their diets.  

 

It's this disingenuous Hollywood thing that makes Hollywood figures unattainable, like, you'll never get this figure because these women just have it naturally.  These women eat burgers, fries, and pizza, yet have very thin figures naturally.  Forget being like them, they're more special than you because this is the fantasy of Hollywood.  

 

Taking pleasure in food is fine.  Being a foodie is fine.  There are some cultures who take way more pleasure in food than others.  But I absolutely can't stand this 'stick-thin female characters who love to eat crap' thing, and it's supposed to be cute and funny.    It's not.  It's not like Lorelai and Rory were having gourmet or light meals or enjoying the pleasure of experimenting with great foods.  They were eating crap upon crap and clearly did not care about being nutritious.  I don't personally celebrate that.

 

Anyway that seemed to be more of a "thing" in the 90s/2000s and I think it seems to be going away.  Thanks, (Michelle) Obama.   I am the kind of person who will gain weight extremely easily and I do watch every calorie, so of course someone like Liz Lemon is more relatable for me.

 

Edited to Add:  It puts completely unrealistic standards on women.  You should be able to eat like a pig and still look as thin as all the women on TV.  If you don't, there's something wrong with YOU.

Edited February 4, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay

[Eyes High]

I get your point, but the absence of any comment on moral policing of Lorelai and Rory's food choices--apart from the occasional grumbling from Luke--is nice, just as the absence of any comment on or moral policing of Sookie's weight is nice. Sookie's weight is probably not super healthy, but the show mercifully spared us characters sitting Sookie down and telling her that she was making Bad Choices and that being obese was Not Okay. Instead, she got to live her life--date, marry, have kids, etc. etc.--without any references to her weight or tut-tutting from the show's writers about what a shitty role model she was for young CW audiences because she was a bigger lady and lived her life without wringing her hands about how awful it was to be bigger. It was nice. It was refreshing.

 

Real women have to deal with all of our choices being shit upon day in and day out by pretty much everyone: what we drink, what we eat, what we wear on our bodies, whether we wear makeup, how much makeup we wear, how we wear our hair, whom we date, how many people we sleep with, whether we marry, whom we marry, whether we want kids, whether we have enough kids, how we raise our kids, whether we smile in public, etc. I say, let the fictional ladies enjoy their damn fictional burgers. Gilmore Girls is about wish fulfillment fantasy in a lot of ways--idyllic small town existence with all of the benefits and virtually none of the drawbacks, Rory's steady supply of adoring dreamboats, Rory's nastiest female antagonist becoming her closest and most devoted friend (yeah, right), Lorelai having a devoted guy friend who never tires of her bullshit, Lorelai and Rory always getting bailed out from scrapes, etc. etc.--so why not about food? Some women dream of an unending parade of hot dudes fighting over them. Other women dream of having someone who will be slavishly devoted to them no matter how appallingly they behave towards that person and will find their rude and selfish behaviour charming and cute. Other women dream of cramming unhealthy food down their gullets 24/7 without gaining an ounce. Are any of these dreams a good or "healthy" thing? Probably not. It's not good to see yourself as a prize to be won, it's not good to want to avoid consequences for behaving badly, and it's not good to fetishize unhealthy eating habits. Is it okay to cater to those dumb fantasies without the writers vomiting moral judgment all over such fantasies or wagging their fingers in viewers' faces for wanting those things? I think so. Most serious dramas on TV these days are one male fantasy after another. I think women should be allowed their fantasies, too.

Edited February 3, 2016 by Eyes High

[RainbowBrite]

I enjoy the food aspect of this show. I live vicariously through them, watching them demolish plates of donuts, heaps of marshmallows, and carafe after carafe of coffee. What DOES annoy me is the other characters' comments in regards to how much the Gilmore girls eat. Pointing out over and over how they can eat anything they want and stay slim just rubs me the wrong way. I don't think I'm explaining it well, but I just feel like the piles of food are so exaggerated that they are whimsical. Commenting on it ruins it, in some way. 

[Iseut]

Sookie's weight is probably not super healthy, but the show mercifully spared us characters sitting Sookie down and telling her that she was making Bad Choices and that being obese was Not Okay.

Sookie very probably ate more healthily than Lorelai and Rory. She had a gourmet palate and she was married to the produce man, often talking about the glories of delicious fruits and vegetables. Sookie may have been heavier, but she had to have been healthier (if Stars Hollow were not Fantasyland, that is).

[solotrek]

Wouldn't the whole payment process be explained when you are applying to school?  It just was odd to me that she seemed entirely unprepared to pay for Chilton, when a school like that, say in 2000, could easily be 20,000 or so a year, when she appeared to have been working hard to get Rory admitted.    

I have no doubt there was an explanation in a packet or by a financial adviser in the school (like the ones in college). Whether she was paying attention or understanding is a whole other matter.

 

And yes, it does seem like like there was little going on to actually pay for Chilton even aside from the initial downpayment. Though maybe they thought Rory could get in as a scholarship student?

[FictionLover]

If Luke had his dad's garage to hide Jess's car in, how come he had to rent a garage for years to store his weird looking boat in?

[solotrek]

If Luke had his dad's garage to hide Jess's car in, how come he had to rent a garage for years to store his weird looking boat in?

Weren't they one and the same? His father had rented out that garage as well. I assumed "dad's garage" just meant the "garage dad had been renting" and both Liz and Jess would know as well.

Edited February 4, 2016 by solotrek

[dustylil]

I have no doubt there was an explanation in a packet or by a financial adviser in the school (like the ones in college). Whether she was paying attention or understanding is a whole other matter

 

It was probably genetic. Her father a few years later set up his consulting company in such a way that his family's financial well-being was put at risk if things went awry in the business.

[solotrek]

It was probably genetic. Her father a few years later set up his consulting company in such a way that his family's financial well-being was put at risk if things went awry in the business.

Don't forget he was also going to fold his company immediately because his secretary from the other company didn't want a paycut to work with him.

 

So when Rory wants to get back together with Dean the first time around and goes to his house, how does she know nothing about Clara? She doesn't even know her name. They never even met before. Why would Dean even expect a girl to say that she loves him if she doesn't even know his family? It's so weird.

[RainbowBrite]

So when Rory wants to get back together with Dean the first time around and goes to his house, how does she know nothing about Clara? She doesn't even know her name. They never even met before. Why would Dean even expect a girl to say that she loves him if she doesn't even know his family? It's so weird.

I know! In a previous episode (season 1?) he also mentioned sisters, plural. I mean, he could have more than one but she is never again mentioned. 

[FictionLover]

Weren't they one and the same? His father had rented out that garage as well. I assumed "dad's garage" just meant the "garage dad had been renting" and both Liz and Jess would know as well.

 

I don't think to. He was upset that he had to move his boat since his ,and then Luke had rented it from her. Plus, when he hid Jess's car in it, his boat would have still been in there if that was the case. We never saw the boat until season 5.

[GreenScreenFX]

Sorry

Edited February 6, 2016 by GreenScreenFX

[dustylil]

he also mentioned sisters, plural. I mean, he could have more than one but she is never again mentioned

 

I too thought there was talk of another sister in the first season. In a late Season 3 episode when Rory and Dean were discussing the plans for his wedding, he mentioned having a three year old nephew who was to be ring-bearer. So that would suggest another - and older - sibling in the Forrester family.

[DisneyBoy]

I will never not be supremely irritated by the decision the producers made to have the door at the back of Lorelei's kitchen lead out onto the deck which is next to the living room. It is completely insane and makes no sense considering how much of the house we see over the course of the series! Mercifully, I think they stopped doing this sometime after season 2... But it will never make any sense to me. We can see there is a door on the side of the living room! And we know where the side of the living room is with regards to the rest of the house! So when someone exits the kitchen on the right side of the house and magically end up on the porch on the left side of the house it pisses me off. Especially since we know the washer and dryer are also supposed to be on the outside of the house by the kitchen, but they are nowhere to be seen on the deck when we do go out there.

It is just such a random thing to do in terms of spatial geography...

Edited February 25, 2016 by DisneyBoy

[GreenScreenFX]

I noticed this too Disneyboy, it drives me to distraction. The last episode I recall the "magic portal" was season 3 when Luke warns L Jess was gone, they leave from the kitchen, then they magically appear on the other side of the house.

Edited February 26, 2016 by GreenScreenFX

[brightside]

So in "I Get A Sidekick Out of You" Rory gets a Sidekick phone from Chris, and is seen using it to text multiple times...until the end of the episode when Colin calls her on the flip phone. And then she calls people on the flip phone throughout the next episode. In fact, the Sidekick vanishes until 7.03 when it's suddenly her phone again. 

 

Normally I don't mind the fact that they seem to have different cell phones every few episodes, but there was a plot point around this one!

[readster]

So in "I Get A Sidekick Out of You" Rory gets a Sidekick phone from Chris, and is seen using it to text multiple times...until the end of the episode when Colin calls her on the flip phone. And then she calls people on the flip phone throughout the next episode. In fact, the Sidekick vanishes until 7.03 when it's suddenly her phone again. 

 

Normally I don't mind the fact that they seem to have different cell phones every few episodes, but there was a plot point around this one!

I called that product placement, because all the characters had new phones every few episodes. I even remember Kirk when he was a real estate agent having his bluetooth with a smart phone. Of course that is a nitpick, because the type he had would have light up if he had a call. He suddenly stops and goes: "Hello?" and then turns away. I know its acting, but at least try to make it look like he really is getting a call on his headset. Another time, Kirk had a flip phone and didn't open it because they had to show the side of it to see that it was a Motrolla phone and couldn't if it was open and he was talking into it. I remember one episode, Paris had a sidekick and a few episodes later, she had a Trello. Then the Trello was switched out with an early android phone. It was jarring, Luke and Sookie and Jackson at least kept similar phones during the series. Even when Luke broke down and finally got a cellphone when he hated them (and still does from the stills from the revival). 

[LegalParrot81]

I know this is a silly nitpick and probably something she can't help, but Alexis Bledel's round shoulders are distracting and it became more pronounced as the series went on.  I just want to put my hand in the middle of her upper back and tell her to stand up straight. 

Edited March 10, 2016 by LegalParrot81

[timimouse]

I know this is a silly nitpick and probably something she can't help, but Alexis Bledel's round shoulders are distracting and it became more pronounced as the series went on.  I just want to put my hand in the middle of her upper back and tell her to stand up straight. 

 

Oooooh this bugged me as well. It became more pronounced because her clothing got tighter and more revealing so we didn't see it as much in the earlier seasons when she mostly wore sweaters and her Chilton uniform. But there were really a few college scenes that I couldn't focus on because I was focussing on her humped back. One that stands out especially is when she is talking to Lane about having slept with Dean. ARGH!

[Aloeonatable]

Didn't Alexis mention once, in a magazine interview, that she had scoliosis? I recall at one time reading that info. What I know about scoliosis is that one's spine is curved, but I always thought it meant an "s" shape, not a hunched back. 

[Petunia13]

The issue can also cause curve sideways slightly like a oblong C or upside down J too. I only just learned this since my coworker told me about this (her affliction) and 20 things about herself today.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Repetitive, over-used, annoying, cloying phrases:

 

I am trying to re-watch Season 1.  The writer(s) insist on over-using this particular use of the word "said":

 

Episode 111:

 

MAX: And the whole time we were at said dinner table, you ate two maybe three bites of this amazing dinner I made for you.

 

RORY: I'm not even supposed to be here. That's the first rule of the 'Gilmore Dating Handbook'. (as Lorelai fiddle with her skirt zipper). Daughter shall be nowhere near house when said man materializes. It's a good rule, it's been working.

 

Episode 112:

 

LANE: No. We’ll tell her that we’re meeting Dean for a movie, and then we go to the movie and then somebody who just happens to be a friend of Dean’s, just happens to be there, for the same movie and so we figure that it would be completely rude for us to not ask said person to come sit with us.

 

Episode 116:

 

RORY: And Dean apparently has some big fancy evening planned for us.
LORELAI: Very classy of him.
RORY: Yes it is. But for me to actually partake of the foresaid fancy evening, I have to get out of Friday night dinner.

 

Uggggggghhhhhhhhhhh.  It's so unnecessary and redundant, it's so pretentious to speak this way -- kill me!

[Kohola3]

Make a drinking game out of the word "amazing" and I guarantee you won't make it past the episode without falling out of your chair.

[dustylil]

"kid" would likely also work.

[timimouse]

I don't mind the use of "said"... Possibly because that's how I speak. Sorry, but I don't think I'm pretentious.

What did bug me at one point was Rory's over use of the word "Wigging". I don't think it sounded right coming from her, as I think she'd be more eloquent than that.

[Petunia13]

When a person uses the word "said" randomly in speech the way it was described above in said post it sounds like a courtroom opening argument or some negotiators report.

[solotrek]

So in Lost&Found Dean notices Rory doesn't have the bracelet he made for her anymore. Rory runs home and then spends the entire episode looking for said bracelet. However, during the book sale, Rory buys a mountain of books and makes plan with Dean to do stuff right after buying the books. When Rory runs home, she doesn't have a mountain of books. Also, what is Dean doing during the few hours that Rory is looking for the bracelet? He was already pushing for spending the entire day together so wouldn't he be wondering where/why Rory ran off? In fact, he was alreadyin possessive Dean mode so there'd be no way that he'd just sit and guard her books while she's off running around town looking for the bracelet. Makes no sense.

[junienmomo]

And this might be a strange nitpick to mention, but did we ever see proof of Luke's "great butt" that Patty and Babette pointed out was one of his best features? That comment always bugged me because it was stated as fact...and yet Luke always wears long oversized flannel shirts and baggy jeans. If he did have a great posterior, it certainly wasn't plainly visible to the point where you could compare it to that of a wedding cake topper...

Again, kind of a weird thing to bring up, but I always scratched my head when they said that. Complimenting his broad shoulders or sturdy frame would have made more sense, but been less funny. Maybe it was just a way to compliment Scott.

I'm no butt connoisseur, but there were a couple of times that the butt was shown. Or perhaps we should call it "The Butt?"

In one of the weirdest set of screenshots I've ever made, here are some Luke butt shots from season 3, namely 0304 and 0319.

A butt evaluation? It seems to fill out the pants nicely, I guess?

In any case, the butt shots here are better than those few times I noticed that he was carrying thick wallet-like objects in both back pockets, which sounds really weird to me. No picture of those, though.

The first shot is from 0304 and is the scene in which Sookie confesses to touching Luke's butt.

The rest are from One's Got Class, the Other One Dyes.

 

[Viqutorious]

The ignorance of drinking and driving bothered me. Having 2-3 martini's then wine with dinner was not an uncommon practice for FND. The one that really stood out to me was when Luke called Lorelai from the golf course telling her he was drunk, she suggested he should drink coffee before he came home. Bad advice.

[junienmomo]

The ignorance of drinking and driving bothered me. Having 2-3 martini's then wine with dinner was not an uncommon practice for FND. The one that really stood out to me was when Luke called Lorelai from the golf course telling her he was drunk, she suggested he should drink coffee before he came home. Bad advice.

That bugged me, too. Lorelai tried not to get to FND before seven, then frequently requested second cocktails, followed by wine and in that state she began searching for the quickest way to leave. I don't believe she could have passed an alcohol test under those conditions.

Thanks to this year's rewatch, I noticed that Rory had champagne to celebrate getting into Chilton. Since she was in private at her grandparents and her mother was also there, it wasn't illegal, but they sure bent over backwards in later episodes to be demonstrably not drinking alcohol. I'm guessing there was some outside influence on the producers there.

[solotrek]

The ignorance of drinking and driving bothered me. Having 2-3 martini's then wine with dinner was not an uncommon practice for FND. The one that really stood out to me was when Luke called Lorelai from the golf course telling her he was drunk, she suggested he should drink coffee before he came home. Bad advice.

It seemed like the alcohol was spaced out enough time wise and with all the food and other drinks (water, tea, coffee) that it wouldn't be a problem. Lorelai wasn't chugging the drinks and then raring to go. 2nd cocktails wasn't something she did that often. I think the finale was the only time Emily asked for after dinner drinks, and that was obviously to keep them around until the end of time. Plus we're also assuming that Rory never drove home.

 

The golf course advice was dumb obviously.

 

Thanks to this year's rewatch, I noticed that Rory had champagne to celebrate getting into Chilton. Since she was in private at her grandparents and her mother was also there, it wasn't illegal, but they sure bent over backwards in later episodes to be demonstrably not drinking alcohol.

 

Because getting into Chilton was a special occasion whereas the other FNDs were just weekly dinners. I wouldn't be surprised if they had champagne when she announced she was going to Yale. Not really eyebrow raising.

 

Why didn't Gran go to Rory's Chilton graduation? She moved to Hartford at that point, no?

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 Why didn't Gran go to Rory's Chilton graduation? She moved to Hartford at that point, no?

She was probably off canoodling with her sweatsuit wearing boyfriend. ;)