S12.E08: Face To Face

[Straycat80]

Oh Paige just pray this whole situation away. I’m now convinced this is all a scam and all three, Chris, Paige and baby mama, are all in on it for Lifetime money. 

[Soup333]

The guys this season all have issues. I’m starting to think Jake might be the most emotionally stable. 😳

[CSunshine76]

4 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

Erik wants Virginia to check in every 1-2 hours?!! Absolutely not. 

Is she his teenage daughter? That’s what my sister tells my niece when we drop her off at the mall!

She’s 13 by the way. Screw you Erik!

[Empress1]

5 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

Erik wants Virginia to check in every 1-2 hours?!! Absolutely not. 

Yeah, that’s nuts - and rude to the people she’s with. She was at a wedding and it sounded like she was a bridesmaid so there are activities that go along with that. It’s rude to be ducking out or on your phone all the time. Also, she was at a wedding. She was in the same place the whole time. I can understand wanting to know she got there safely, but once she’s there it’s just “I’m at the reception”.

Paige should not even have picked up Chris’s call. His number should be blocked.

[LennieBriscoe]

Oh, man. Haley and Jake are putting on an acting Master Class.

[gonecrackers]

Uh oh, Haley's friend has a big nose.

[humbleopinion]

1 minute ago, Empress1 said:

Paige should not even have picked up Chris’s call. His number should be blocked.

Paige can’t block him from her lady parts any more than she can block his phone number...

[LennieBriscoe]

4 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

Uh oh, Haley's friend has a big nose.

But otherwise looks just like Haley! Penny for Jake's thoughts!

[Soup333]

Virginia, baby. Run. You in danger, girl. 

[LennieBriscoe]

Erik needs to invite three women to their place for a little get-together.  My money says Virginia wouldn't  like it one bit.

She wants to party and get drunk with "the guys." 

Absolutely NOT ready for marriage. 

Please, Erik. This behavior will not age well. Virginia will be a sloppy and haggard 40-year-old alcoholic, bellying up to bars until "Time" is called. And not even her "guy friends" will want to be around her---because they will have grown up and moved on from that scene, like Erik has. 

Edited March 4, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[gonecrackers]

VA talk about something other than booze for once. Geez, Jake's 80s thing isn't nearly as bad as her alcohol obsession.

Why is she sitting on the floor? Will she lose her balance on a chair?

[LennieBriscoe]

6 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

VA talk about something other than booze for once. Geez, Jake's 80s thing isn't nearly as bad as her alcohol obsession.

Why is she sitting on the floor? Will she lose her balance on a chair?

Ha! Just skipping that middle stage called "standing"!

[Crashcourse]

Even if Virginia was a bridesmaid, I don't understand why she had to be gone for four days.  Erik does come off as controlling though.

Virginia's friend talking to Erik looks like a drunk.

[LennieBriscoe]

Haley sure likes that dog-pillow between her and Jake.

Ryan, that backwards cap? And indoors? Godawful!

Edited March 4, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[VioletNevermind]

I bet Haley is tearing Jake to shreds with her friends behind his back.  It makes me kind of sad for him.  I don’t think he’s a bad guy.  Maybe just an acquired taste and not for everyone, but a decent person if he’s given a chance to get comfortable. 

[Empress1]

6 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Even if Virginia was a bridesmaid, I don't understand why she had to be gone for four days.  Erik does come off as controlling though.

Virginia's friend talking to Erik looks like a drunk.

Travel Thursday, bridesmaid shit/rehearsal dinner Friday, wedding Saturday, travel Sunday. Sometimes couples have day-after brunches too.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Empress1

[Soup333]

I couldn’t deal with Erik. On top of Virginia needing to check in every other hour he didn’t believe she had platonic relationships with her male friends until they confirmed it to him. How long will it take for him to trust her to be off the leash for four hours? Who would put up with that shit?

[Crashcourse]

I hate that they're saving the Chris/Paige drama for last.

[gonecrackers]

Maybe Ryan's just afraid of Clara's nails.

5 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I hate that they're saving the Chris/Paige drama for last.

I hate that they're still on the show at all.

[Crashcourse]

Just now, gonecrackers said:

Maybe Ryan's just afraid of Clara's nails.

You know, I laughed about that a while back, but I'm thinking he really doesn't like them but he doesn't want to tell her.   Also, she might not want to hurt his feelings about that haircut.  I think they need to have "a conversation."

[LennieBriscoe]

6 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

I couldn’t deal with Erik. On top of Virginia needing to check in every other hour he didn’t believe she had platonic relationships with her male friends until they confirmed it to him. How long will it take for him to trust her to be off the leash for four hours? Who would put up with that shit?

Agree about the checking in.

However, for me it's not so much that Virginia  has platonic  male friends; it's that she thinks it's A-OK for a MARRIED woman to get pass-out drunk with them enough to SLEEP OVER at their places!  

[Soup333]

2 minutes ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Agree about the checking in.

However, for me it's not so much that Virginia  has platonic  male friends; it's that she thinks it's A-OK for a MARRIED woman to get pass-out drunk with them enough to SLEEP OVER at their places!  

She’s immature and drinks way too much but Erik told her he had a problem with male/female friendships on the honeymoon. 

[VioletNevermind]

Oh boy, Brianna’s mom was disrespectful to Vincent. 🙄

Edited March 4, 2021 by Suzy Rhapsody
Sarcasm, of course.

[Crashcourse]

I like that Vincent and Brianna are playing a game with their families.  It's a nice ice-breaker.  

[Soup333]

I love that plant behind Paige. I can’t get mine to grow that big. 

This is foolishness, btw. 

[VioletNevermind]

I’m sorry, but this just cannot be real at this point.  No one can have self-esteem as low as Paige’s.  I’m screaming at my TV that they all have to be paid actors because I just can’t comprehend any other reality. 

[LennieBriscoe]

Paige, where is the humor in this situation? No, really; where??

Whoa. Mercedes is giving Chris the flashing eyes of "WTH?! You swore you wouldn't have sex with this bee-yotch, you dog!"

I want a Reese's. They've  finally  worn me down. Not sorry!

Edited March 4, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[Straycat80]

Paige almost acts like she’s disappointed she didn’t get pregnant. They are all acting. 

[Kira53]

1 hour ago, Empress1 said:

Yeah, that’s nuts - and rude to the people she’s with. She was at a wedding and it sounded like she was a bridesmaid so there are activities that go along with that. It’s rude to be ducking out or on your phone all the time. Also, she was at a wedding. She was in the same place the whole time. I can understand wanting to know she got there safely, but once she’s there it’s just “I’m at the reception”.

Paige should not even have picked up Chris’s call. His number should be blocked.

Why didn't she invite him to come along? I know he was not initially invited but I've never known a wedding where somebody or a bunch of somebody's didn't show up so there would have been room for him.  Bridesmaids don't have a lot of duties after you walk down the aisle.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Kira53

[Crashcourse]

Ugh, Chris' ex has claws longer than Clara's.

[LennieBriscoe]

Try as he might, Chris  can't  help  sneaking peeks at Mercedes' headlights. Haha!

Whoa, Paige just said "duplicitous," a perfect but rarely-heard word! 

Edited March 4, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[CSunshine76]

This Chris/Paige/ex is a shit show of epic proportions! Is this for real?

That bastard just sits there staring into space? Why is Paige even sitting down with them? No thank you...block his number and move on sister.

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, gonecrackers said:

It's the jump on Jake show on Unfiltered. Brianna & Paige both have major 'tudes toward him; Paige admitted being "close with Haley". 

And Paige doesn't have the right to comment on anyone else's marriage - if she's not a fake 'actor' she's just an idiot. GTFO

Jake did pretty well considering he was between two of Haley’s friends.  He didn’t talk about the eighties either.  They are playing this 80’s thing up too much already.  Why don’t they talk about Haley and her forced smile like someone is going to kill her, and her holier than thou attitude.  I don’t hear a thing about her or her quirks or that she likes to drink quite a bit.

Paige .. Boring story.  Keep sleeping with him.  Maybe you all could live together.  Paige has no pride.  Anyone could wipe the floor with her.

Vincent .. She’s more successful than him and it’s bothering him.  He feels inadequate.

The Pilot reminds me of a mamsy pansy.  He’s told not to control her.  Yeah, let her get drunk every weekend with all her guy friends.    What kind of marriage is that?

Too much baby mama, Paige and Chris.  The worst season ever.  How many more weeks do we have to hear this shit?

Ryan and Clara .. What’s the holdup. Try it, you might like it.  What’s with him?

 

 

 

[LennieBriscoe]

Well, there it is. Chris outright said, "I've  checked out."

 

[VioletNevermind]

Chris is fucking delusional.  I hope this serves as a warning to every woman he may meet in the future. 

Edited March 4, 2021 by Suzy Rhapsody

[spunky]

Chris wasn't ready to be rejected by his ex or to get dragged by Paige.  Now he's having a whole tantrum. 

[Straycat80]

Chris has got to be the biggest narcissistic  jerk ever on this show. Hope both these women have nothing more to do with him. 

[Hangin Out]

Just now, Straycat80 said:

Chris has got to be the biggest narcissistic  jerk ever on this show. Hope both these women have nothing more to do with him. 

Chris and Paige will have sex every week until the end of this farce of a show.

[LennieBriscoe]

Previews:

Noooo! TELL me that we didn't just see Chris about to tell Paige, "I'm afraid I might be happy with you"?!?!

Erik, Jake, and Clara are getting fed up. Erik's  had enough with the partying; Jake has had enough of the phoniness; Clara is done with the physical distance. 

Don't make a joke about Vincent's  dancing, Bri!

 

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, Soup333 said:

The guys this season all have issues. I’m starting to think Jake might be the most emotionally stable. 😳

Yep.  I hope he dumps her in the end.  She thinks she’s a real prize and Jake is a dummy.

[Kiss my mutt]

Chris can fuck right off with his “pure intentions”. Mercedez and Paige were laughing at his stupid ass. 

[Empress1]

19 minutes ago, Kira53 said:

Why didn't she invite him to come along? I know he was not initially invited but I've never known a wedding where somebody or a bunch of somebody's didn't show up so there would have been room for him.  Bridesmaids don't have a lot of duties after you walk down the aisle.

His brother was marrying the same day.

[Cammi]

DONE WITH VIRGINIA. OFFICIALLY TRIGGERED. Alcoholic dumbass immature little girl. “If you don’t do shots with me, we can’t be friends”. Gtf outta here with your alcoholic self Virginia. I grew up with alcoholic parents and I purposely don’t drink. There is nothing wrong with that! Absolutely nothing. I have never been drunk a day in my life, because I was so worried I would be like my addict parents. People don’t always have to drink and they don’t always have to give a reason either! I couldn’t stand it when I’d be a party and girls (sorry it was always girls) would be forcing the drinking issue, and asking “but why, why, why? Why don’t you want to drink, why?” Because I don’t like it! Smokers never do that. If someone asks you for a cigarette and you say I don’t smoke, they don’t say but WHY? Grow the hell up Virginia. If Eric stays with her, he’s a damn fool. She’s a bottom barrel lush IMO and no “decent” man in his right mind would intentionally wife her. And she is NOT attractive. She actually has jerky head movements like she’s going through withdrawals when she doesn’t have a drink. This is not a dig, I’m seriously wondering if she’s addicted to something other than alcohol.

I think Chris and Mercedes planned this. Merced’s had that same dumb smile like she was enjoying it, but played it off better than him. And he is a textbook narcissist. He is LITERALLY hitting every single narcissistic red flag, it’s almost like he’s following a playbook. I’ve never seen a narcissist THIS obvious before on my TV. I’m baffled how he’s not been called out yet. I literally have no words, his narcissism is absolutely INSANE  

 

[DrewPaul2010]

2 hours ago, Suzy Rhapsody said:

I’m calling it now: Haley is completely done with Jake.  The rest of the season is just purely academic and waiting out the clock. 

Okay put a fork in it...

[Adeejay]

At their wedding, Briana’s family told Vinny that, “she is bossy".  When her mother walked through the door, she made a point of asking Vinny how it was going because, “Briana is a handful”.  I have a feeling those negative comments are giving him anxiety. 

I would bet good money that Mercedes came into the meeting with Paige to announce that she and Chris were getting back together.  However, after hearing that they had unprotected sex, she changed her mind.  Paige’s eyes lit up when Mercedes said it was over between them.  Hope springs eternal. 

[DrewPaul2010]

2 hours ago, Suzy Rhapsody said:

I move that they recruit all of these people’s friends for next season.  They seem much more balanced and measured than the actual couples.  

They could do a show matching up people who seemed so ready for marriage and ended up with a total dud (like Chris this season) with someone else who was loyal but got burned.

[Cammi]

1 hour ago, Suzy Rhapsody said:

I bet Haley is tearing Jake to shreds with her friends behind his back.  It makes me kind of sad for him.  I don’t think he’s a bad guy.  Maybe just an acquired taste and not for everyone, but a decent person if he’s given a chance to get comfortable. 

I agree. I think production is giving him a bad edit on purpose because he’s a nice guy and they can’t find anything else to use as a plot point. I’m quite introverted, and I really love his calm, thoughtful way of speaking. It is very soothing and relaxing. He would make a really good fitness instructor or a teacher

[Cammi]

1 hour ago, Soup333 said:

I couldn’t deal with Erik. On top of Virginia needing to check in every other hour he didn’t believe she had platonic relationships with her male friends until they confirmed it to him. How long will it take for him to trust her to be off the leash for four hours? Who would put up with that shit?

I honestly think if Erik was put with someone more mature like Haley, we would not see his controlling side this much. Maybe Erik is afraid if he doesn’t check in with her often, she’ll fall down dead drunk somewhere, or drive drunk? I know if she was my friend I’d be texting her all damn day every day to make sure she hadn’t killed herself by alcohol poisoning. I have no idea how that bitch made it through infancy! I cannot believe she’s made it this far as an adult. I honestly have no idea how she holds a job, she seems so immature and in a state of “sorority girl arrested development”. 

[Cammi]

Sorry to keep posting but can anyone tell me what was up with Chris asking about being ready to go get some food? When he was with Mercedes and Paige, he kept saying he couldn’t wait to go get some food. Was it the dig at Paige because he and Mercedes had planned on going out to dinner or something? And he wanted to rub it in Paiges’s face, like a child? Cuz my jaw kinda hit the floor when he sad that. I mean... WOW. His immaturity is surreal. 

[me5671]

1 hour ago, Cammi said:

DONE WITH VIRGINIA. OFFICIALLY TRIGGERED. Alcoholic dumbass immature little girl. “If you don’t do shots with me, we can’t be friends”. Gtf outta here with your alcoholic self Virginia. I grew up with alcoholic parents and I purposely don’t drink. There is nothing wrong with that! Absolutely nothing. I have never been drunk a day in my life, because I was so worried I would be like my addict parents. People don’t always have to drink and they don’t always have to give a reason either! I couldn’t stand it when I’d be a party and girls (sorry it was always girls) would be forcing the drinking issue, and asking “but why, why, why? Why don’t you want to drink, why?” Because I don’t like it! Smokers never do that. If someone asks you for a cigarette and you say I don’t smoke, they don’t say but WHY? Grow the hell up Virginia. If Eric stays with her, he’s a damn fool. She’s a bottom barrel lush IMO and no “decent” man in his right mind would intentionally wife her. And she is NOT attractive. She actually has jerky head movements like she’s going through withdrawals when she doesn’t have a drink. This is not a dig, I’m seriously wondering if she’s addicted to something other than alcohol. 

 

I agree about Virginia.  At this point I am concerned about her relationship with alcohol.  Did you catch the part where she said her friends won't let her force them to have more than 3 shots with her when they go out... so then she GOES HOME AND TAKES SHOTS BY HERSELF?!  That is a textbook sign of having a problematic relationship with alcohol.  And the way she said it too.  It wasn't said jokingly, but matter-of-factly IMO.  Very concerning.