90 Day: The Single Life

[Peppermint]

Tragic news, hopefully Nutalie will, out of respect , give him a wide berth. Forever.

 

Edited March 27 by Peppermint
if I want my replies merged I'll do it mice-elf.

[DanaMB]

58 minutes ago, Peppermint said:

Tragic news, hopefully Nutalie will, out of respect , give him a wide berth. Forever.

 

Doubt it. She’ll get upset at all the time he spends with his son. 

Edited March 27 by DanaMB

[Peppermint]

I covet Miss Debbie's sequined wrap....And Tim's jacket. I promise to not wear them together. And wear panties.

[J80134]

Debbie's knee high orange hose socks with her dress remind me of the women in the nursing home I worked at in the 80s....cuz a lady doesn't go commando calf. Lol

Nutalie acts like she's 20, and just arrived in the US with nothing. She's got a green card, a TV paycheck, a sweet&low daddy and Mike's been helping her financially. Zero sympathy for the "poor Ukrainian girl".

 

[Chalby]

On 3/21/2024 at 11:16 PM, bravofan27 said:

That said, I don't see any hope for either of them for relationships without some serious deep personal work.

Veronica and Tim seem to just want a partner to drink and party with and not really someone to engage in real world life. 

Have you ever noticed that when Tim and Veronica are providing video commentary, they are usually condescending or mocking the couples.

Tim always assumes the foreign women are Gold diggers, or after a Visa/citizenship and foreign men want a work visa so they can move on..

In short,foreign fiances aren't to be trusted...

[Boxer Woman]

On 3/19/2024 at 8:11 AM, suzeecat said:

They had to bring Sarper on to spice things up with dating "tips" for Tyray, LOL!  I don't disagree with any of them that what Tyray needs is a little experience to give him some confidence. 

I can't stand Sarper but do agree with him about Tyray's constant giggling being a huge turn off to probably almost all women, and also that he should consider paying for sex to get some experience and idea what it's all about before trying with a real potential relationship partner because even if he managed to stop the giggling and get a date to agree to sex with him, his level of inexperience and cluelessness at his age would likely be the last straw for any poor woman who initially agreed to it.  His obesity is obviously another issue and drawback but not as much so as the giggling and early teen mindset about sex combined with the weird ideas he's gotten from porn, Carmella, etc.

[suzeecat]

Oh my, I was holding my breath watching Tyray's "first kiss" friend (can't remember her name), that dress was centimeters away from a nip slip!!!

I can't even remember anything else from the one-hour show  . . .

[Breedom]

Here we go again with Nutcase. Poor Josh. His friend says he likes to fix people. Josh, you are over your head with this one. Nutcase needs to go away somewhere alone and only have contact with a therapist; she is in need of some deep intensive therapy.

Josh was trying to calm her down backstage, but she couldn't shut her mouth long enough for him to get a sentence in. WHY DOESN'T THE REST OF THE CAST SEE that this woman is unhinged? Why, oh why, are they all speaking up for her and trashing Josh?

Why was she getting praised for her acting "skills" when no one can understand a word she's saying? Being in the US, English is used here in the movie industry, NC, in case you didn't know. At most, if I remember, one person may have told her this -- but the others are just acting so amazed at her amazing talent. So who is leading her on here? Yet these other cast members pretend they are innocent.

Nutcase, please go away and stop trying to milk every person you come in contact with. Financially and emotionally. You gotta go, girl, and learn some life skills.

[Breedom]

On 3/28/2024 at 1:57 PM, J80134 said:

Nutalie acts like she's 20, and just arrived in the US with nothing. She's got a green card, a TV paycheck, a sweet&low daddy and Mike's been helping her financially. Zero sympathy for the "poor Ukrainian girl".

Exactly!!!

My mom came to the US from Europe many years ago and she never referred to herself as a "poor European girl." She made a good life for herself on her own. Nutcase sees herself as a helpless "blonde foreigner" with everyone trying to take advantage of her. Bull. California is a very diverse state. No one is singling you out. Man, take responsibility for your own self and your over-the-top dramatic behavior and stop insulting people because you can't do that.

I wish they hadn't spent so much time with Tyray. I'm looking forward to see what happens with Miss Debbie.

Edited April 3 by Breedom
Adding in another profound thought! :)

[Smokeyblow]

The way they were all goading Tyray to kiss that girl was just degrading, manipulative & pathetic in my opinion, this was below just about every other stunt they've pulled on this show, awful. Shouldn't be allowed. 

[Maximadc]

It becomes more and more Jerry Springer’s show

[TwirlyGirly]

On 3/25/2024 at 9:51 PM, Tuneful said:

Natalie is seriously mentally ill. It's become too toxic to me to have her take my time. That's why no one would hire you, Natalie; you are a well-known crazy and drama queen. Go back to FL or wherever is more affordable and get a regular job.

I disagree Natalie is "mentally ill."

What I see as her issues:

1). She wants to get married and have children, but she's close to, at, or past the age at which it's no longer possible for her to conceive without (expensive) intervention that has no guarantee of success — and she knows this but can't admit it to herself. Hence the reason she pursues men with such obvious desperation. 

It's also why she tries to get men to commit to monogamy in their relationship on the second date, while at the same time making clear to them she sees no point in dating any man unless they are also on a path from dating —> engagement —> marriage —> family with her. 

Show of hands, please, from all the single men on this planet who would agree to be on a dating —> engagement —> marriage —> family track on their second date with a woman.

I see no raised hands and I'm not surprised. 

2). Although she speaks English fairly well (certainly much better than most of us who post in this topic speak Ukrainian, I suspect), her English comprehension is lacking. This, combined with her defensiveness (stemming from major trust issues) results in her  interrupting mid-sentence anyone who is speaking to her — to defend herself against what she thinks they said, and were about to say — about her. 

Usually the person who was speaking will try to get her to stop talking so they can explain what they were actually saying, but that's like trying to stop a runaway train, because... 

...after giving her version of what she's certain the other person was saying and why that absolutely wasn't true, Natalie then accuses the other person of something she's just as certain they did or said: i.e., when Natalie insisted Mike's mother called her a hooker. 

By the time Natalie pauses long enough to take a breath, the individual who was talking to her has completely forgotten what they were saying when she interrupted, and now wants to correct whatever she claimed they did or said in the past. Which is yet another losing (verbal) battle. Rinse and repeat. 

Being an age at which your ability to conceive may be hovering close to zero, wanting a husband and family but not being in a long-term committed relationship that might possibly lead to achieving those goals, can certainly result in someone feeling desperate. Not allowing that desperation to show isn't something everyone can do, and it's not a sign of mental illness if they can't.

Extreme defensiveness rooted in trust issues— even when the manner in which it's expressed runs counter to achieving someone's personal goals — is also not a sign of mental illness. 

Would Natalie benefit from therapy? Possibly (heck, a lot of people we share this planet with would) — but only if she goes willingly because she recognizes the way she approaches relationships and interacts with others may be what's preventing her dreams from being fulfilled. None of what's been shown of her in any of the 90 Day series in which Natalie has been a cast member has indicated she's ready to take responsibility for those behaviors though, so even if we all agree she needs therapy, it's a moot point right now. 

[Maximadc]

The reason some viewers see mental issues with Natalie is that she is all over the place and doesn't act her age, although she looks 38 for sure. 
She wants a career in Hollywood; she wants a baby, and she wants Josh; she wants to stay with Mike. She wants Mike to sponsor her mom; she wants Josh to pay for her apartment and find her a job; she wants, wants, wants, but doesn't take much responsibility for anything.
And if anyone tells her who she really is, she gets defensive. 
She may not get an official diagnosis, but some characteristics of ADHD and bipolar disorder are definitely present.
It is the same as with the girl from My Big Beautiful Life; whatever worked for Natalie in her twenties became more challenging to sell now, when you hit 40, so she needs to be more dramatic and ridiculous to get what she wants.
 

Edited April 4 by Maximadc
Typo

[Fouts]

My guess is that Natalie has histrionic personality disorder.  https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/histrionic-personality-disorder

[90DayFanscom]

On 3/26/2024 at 5:41 AM, Maximadc said:

I am torn between thinking of Natalie as a psychopath or a very talented manipulator. And watching today's episode, she always knows what to do and what to say. Clearly, the previous night she spent with Josh was to groom him for today's episode. And it looks like he is still responsible for her and her mom living in LA. Like Yara said, 'Natalie, please give me some lessons!'

You really think she know what to say? I think she's bat shit crazy, sorry to say but clearly a golddigger and opportunist. I'm very confused about why any reasonable man would stay. And I don't mean to be an a-hole but we know Natalie after all these seasons...

[Peppermint]

@TwirlyGirl ...Thank you for your reasonable and well thought out post. My kind and intelligent side totally agrees with you. My snarky and judgemental persona who watches these Shows still thinks Natalie is coocoo for Cocoa Puffs. 

Slinking back into my cave now. ♥️

[Auntie Anxiety]

So nu?

[Pepper Mostly]

On 3/29/2024 at 7:47 AM, Chalby said:

Have you ever noticed that when Tim and Veronica are providing video commentary, they are usually condescending or mocking the couples.

Tim always assumes the foreign women are Gold diggers, or after a Visa/citizenship and foreign men want a work visa so they can move on..

In short,foreign fiances aren't to be trusted...

That's probably why they're so beloved by Sharp. Nothing Matt Sharp likes more than broad, insulting stereotypes. 

Oh, and I'm here, hi all! I'm completely exhausted after cooking all day. Looking forward to some laughs, I sure could use some!

[judylo]

Hi all. Am in hospital. Broke shoulder, wrist and knee in a fall. Hard to type. Are we losing our forums?? 

[Auntie Anxiety]

All of these people are so wonderful! Hard to snark when they’re so perfect.

[Pepper Mostly]

3 minutes ago, judylo said:

Hi all. Am in hospital. Broke shoulder, wrist and knee in a fall. Hard to type. Are we losing our forums?? 

Looks that way. I messaged you. Read it when you're feeling better. 

I am so sorry about your fall! I live in terror of falling, I hope you mend quickly and completely! 

[For Cereals]

Where the hell did Fernanda come from?

[Pepper Mostly]

1 minute ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

All of these people are so wonderful! Hard to snark when they’re so perfect.

I especially enjoy the tasteful, elegant, understated fashion choices. .Its inspiring. 

[TMI]

4 minutes ago, judylo said:

Hi all. Am in hospital. Broke shoulder, wrist and knee in a fall. Hard to type. Are we losing our forums?? 

recover quickly!

[xls]

I love Rubens outfit!

[Auntie Anxiety]

Isn’t it wonderful that Mother Debbie is making this her business?

[For Cereals]

6 minutes ago, judylo said:

Hi all. Am in hospital. Broke shoulder, wrist and knee in a fall. Hard to type. Are we losing our forums?? 

Get the good drugs and the room service!  I hope you heal soon! 🤗

[Pepper Mostly]

Tim muttering under his breath is making me seriously ragey. And by that I mean I truly respect his ability to mutter nasty, sexist and/or vaguely racist things about  others people he doesn't even know. 

 

[Auntie Anxiety]

6 minutes ago, judylo said:

Hi all. Am in hospital. Broke shoulder, wrist and knee in a fall. Hard to type. Are we losing our forums?? 

Sending healing vibes. We all hope you have a speedy recovery.

[For Cereals]

1 minute ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Tim muttering under his breath is making me seriously ragey. And by that I mean I truly respect his ability to mutter nasty, sexist and/or vaguely racist things about  others people he doesn't even know. 

 

He’s one to talk about people’s outfits.  

 

[Auntie Anxiety]

Miss Debbie understands Ruben’s unique style.

[Pepper Mostly]

My god, these people have seen each other for a few dates and everyone is all "what are your intentions?" like they all live in a Victorian novel. Can muffin smuggling be far behind? 

Just now, For Cereals said:

He’s one to talk about people’s outfits.  

 

Right? He's always dressed like an alien ambassador on Star Trek. 

[For Cereals]

So if Chantel had Mr Foosball on her undies, I’m sure the reaction would’ve been different.

[Pepper Mostly]

Oh dear sweet little tap dancing baby Jesus, I'm sitting here watching a 60 year old man drop his pants on national television. I used to have hopes and dreams! 

[MagicEyes]

Veronica is trying really hard to make herself into the main character here. 

See, when you set up an account with a dating app, if you're on there for a while you don't think about changing the age range, so it stays the same as you get older. That is believable. 

[Pepper Mostly]

Oh for crying out loud. She's mad that he's still on the app? 

MISS DEBBIE's he's not going to keep you around because you are insane. The end. 

[For Cereals]

Miss Debbie is wearing orange knee socks and asking Ruben to change up his look?

[Auntie Anxiety]

I’m running out of things to say about these virtuous and learned Single Life folks.

[Pepper Mostly]

2 minutes ago, MagicEyes said:

Veronica is trying really hard to make herself into the main character here. 

See, when you set up an account with a dating app, if you're on there for a while you don't think about changing the age range, so it stays the same as you get older. That is believable. 

My son changes the age range on his profile every year, on his birthday! He lives in terror of matching with someone who he thinks is too young for him. (He just turned thirty, won't date anyone under 25!)

[MagicEyes]

1 minute ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

I’m running out of things to say about these virtuous and learned Single Life folks.

I can think of a good thing--Fernanda's outfit could have been a lot worse! 

[Pepper Mostly]

1 minute ago, For Cereals said:

Miss Debbie is wearing orange knee socks and asking Ruben to change up his look?

The orange knee highs are.....a bold choice. 

Why are we talking to Tim??

[MagicEyes]

Oh, good, there's another episode left in this endless tell-all! 

[Pepper Mostly]

Tim doesn't want to go out with Luisa, because girls are icky. 

Tim came out of a long term relationship? WHEN? 

 

[MagicEyes]

I was going to make brownies, but this stupid mix needs milk. Who thought that was a good idea? What's the point of having a mix if you have to add ingredients? 

[Pepper Mostly]

Just now, MagicEyes said:

I was going to make brownies, but this stupid mix needs milk. Who thought that was a good idea? What's the point of having a mix if you have to add ingredients? 

Do you have any leftover coffee? that would work. 

[For Cereals]

2 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

The orange knee highs are.....a bold choice. 

Why are we talking to Tim??

Or Veronica (who I like more than Tim) or Jamal or any of these tertiary or quartiary characters.

[Pepper Mostly]

Tim tap-dancing around trying to avoid kissing a beautiful young woman is so painful. 

[MagicEyes]

Just now, Pepper Mostly said:

Do you have any leftover coffee? that would work. 

That is a an excellent idea! 

[Pepper Mostly]

John is absolutely slaying me right now. He's hilarious. 

[For Cereals]

2 minutes ago, MagicEyes said:

I was going to make brownies, but this stupid mix needs milk. Who thought that was a good idea? What's the point of having a mix if you have to add ingredients? 

Yeah!  Water, oil and eggs like Betty Crocker intended!