Brn2bwild July 28, 2020 Share July 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Enigma X said: To me it is written so well, that I don't notice the length much. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I found the first half compelling, and then the second half was so tedious. Even the Maria Reynolds episode was written in an "oh well, yeah he strayed, but it didn't matter" manner. I was relieved when I finally reached the epilogue. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6253471
Babalu July 28, 2020 Share July 28, 2020 I read it, too, but was only about halfway through when I saw the musical. A friend said he was grateful that Hamilton died at 47(ish) because 818 pages was plenty long enough. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6253678
Enigma X July 28, 2020 Share July 28, 2020 Oh, I can go on about Chernow's bio but won't do it here, because it is not the right setting. I will say that, although I found it an easy read, at points he was overly pedantic. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6253756
Inquisitionist July 29, 2020 Share July 29, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 9:53 PM, Brn2bwild said: Maybe I'm in the minority, but I found the first half compelling, and then the second half was so tedious. Even the Maria Reynolds episode was written in an "oh well, yeah he strayed, but it didn't matter" manner. I was relieved when I finally reached the epilogue. I don't know if it's a minority opinion, but it certainly isn't mine! 🙃 I actually prefer the 2nd half, for the most part. The two Cabinet rap battles are thrilling, and Thomas Jefferson's presence throughout this half gives it an extra jolt of formidable conflict. I don't find the Maria Reynolds episode at all ho-hum, and Jasmine Cephas Jones's vocal on Say No to This is so great. The Room Where It Happened is a major turning point, and musical showcase, for Burr. Hurricane lets us into Hamilton's mindset -- he just can't help himself when it comes to thinking that he can write his way out of anything. Burn shows us how much this arrogance cost and hurt Eliza. I start sniffling during It's Quiet Uptown, and always break down completely by Who Lives, Who Dies... Don't get me wrong, there is plenty to recommend the first half as well, but I like how so many forces come to a head in the second. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6256403
Brn2bwild July 30, 2020 Share July 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Inquisitionist said: I don't know if it's a minority opinion, but it certainly isn't mine! 🙃 I actually prefer the 2nd half, for the most part. The two Cabinet rap battles are thrilling, and Thomas Jefferson's presence throughout this half gives it an extra jolt of formidable conflict. I don't find the Maria Reynolds episode at all ho-hum, and Jasmine Cephas Jones's vocal on Say No to This is so great. The Room Where It Happened is a major turning point, and musical showcase, for Burr. Hurricane lets us into Hamilton's mindset -- he just can't help himself when it comes to thinking that he can write his way out of anything. Burn shows us how much this arrogance cost and hurt Eliza. I start sniffling during It's Quiet Uptown, and always break down completely by Who Lives, Who Dies... Don't get me wrong, there is plenty to recommend the first half as well, but I like how so many forces come to a head in the second. Oh no, no, I'm not talking about the musical... I was talking about the biography it was based on. I actually really enjoy the second half of the musical! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6257162
Inquisitionist July 30, 2020 Share July 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Brn2bwild said: Oh no, no, I'm not talking about the musical... I was talking about the biography it was based on. I actually really enjoy the second half of the musical! Ah, sorry about that. It can be difficult to follow discussions here sometimes. 🙄 Glad you enjoyed Act 2!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6257879
Luckylyn August 1, 2020 Share August 1, 2020 Satisfied vs Helpless - It really showcases the effort for the choreography to sync up for both songs 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6260872
Inquisitionist August 3, 2020 Share August 3, 2020 Watched this one last time on Friday before canceling my Disney Plus subscription. L-MM may not be the strongest singer/dancer, but I think he is a pretty good actor. I always start sniffling during Quiet Uptown, but this time his close-ups had me blubbering. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6263815
Babalu August 3, 2020 Share August 3, 2020 One difference I noticed between the Broadway show I saw and the film is that Hamilton/L-MM had white hair starting with “It’s Quiet Uptown” on Broadway but not in the movie. I wonder if the change to white hair has been modified since 2015. (I also saw a touring production in 2018 but can’t remember.) Has anyone else noticed? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6264374
ElectricBoogaloo August 4, 2020 Share August 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Babalu said: One difference I noticed between the Broadway show I saw and the film is that Hamilton/L-MM had white hair starting with “It’s Quiet Uptown” on Broadway but not in the movie. I wonder if the change to white hair has been modified since 2015. (I also saw a touring production in 2018 but can’t remember.) Has anyone else noticed? In the touring productions, Hamilton doesn't have white hair. In the bootleg of the Broadway show with the OBC, LMM's hair isn't white either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6265791
Inquisitionist August 4, 2020 Share August 4, 2020 I don't recall a white-haired Hamilton in the permanent Chicago company either (which I saw 3 times with 2 different actors in the role). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6265912
Babalu August 4, 2020 Share August 4, 2020 Interesting; thanks for your responses. They must have changed it very soon after Hamilton opened OR I completely imagined it. But I have such a vivid recollection of it! I’ll have to ask the friends I went with. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6266546
ElectricBoogaloo August 6, 2020 Share August 6, 2020 Leslie Odom, Jr. was prepared to miss the filmed version of the hit musical after producers held out on his request for pay parity until the eve of production Quote The day before the movie (shoot), we were still in negotiations of whether I was gonna do the movie, because the movie had been announced..., but no one had called my agent to ask if I'd wanted to do (the filmed play)," he explained on the Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard podcast. "It was assumed that we wanted to do the movie and that we would do it for a certain number, and all this stuff was assumed. "And mind you, we were a week before the (Broadway) contracts end, so it's like, the wonderful thing about what's happening in the streets (protests for racial equality), is it has opened the door for more honest conversation..." He continued: "They came to me with an offer: 'Leslie, we're shooting tomorrow...' And I'm like, 'Here's the thing: this is my area of expertise, this is my life's work, this is all I have. This is my life's work on the stage..., and so I just can't sell it away for magic beans; I can't give it away...'" Leslie asked his representative at talent agency CAA to find out how much his "white counterpart" Aaron [Tveit] made for Grease: Live, and requested he receive the same compensation. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6270059
cpcathy August 15, 2020 Share August 15, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 9:14 AM, Inquisitionist said: Watched this one last time on Friday before canceling my Disney Plus subscription. L-MM may not be the strongest singer/dancer, but I think he is a pretty good actor. I always start sniffling during Quiet Uptown, but this time his close-ups had me blubbering. 1000% agree. I also canceled Disney Plus, so I watched one more time before my billing cycle ends. LMM’s acting is brilliant, I just watch his face in Quiet Uptown and in the final number, and yes, tears start a-flow in’! I don’t know how he did it every night of the show. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6286183
Archery August 19, 2020 Share August 19, 2020 On 8/14/2020 at 8:25 PM, cpcathy said: 1000% agree. I also canceled Disney Plus, so I watched one more time before my billing cycle ends. LMM’s acting is brilliant, I just watch his face in Quiet Uptown and in the final number, and yes, tears start a-flow in’! I don’t know how he did it every night of the show. On my second watch, I noticed that Angelica has tears in her eyes when she begins "It's Quiet Uptown," and at two other points (third watch), Eliza has rolling tears. That floored me, since, who would notice that from the audience, yet both actors were so totally committed. I had watched a video essay (relating to the film version of Les Miz) all about how actors should not cry when they sing a sad song, but L-MM's choked up verses in "Quiet," as Eliza will not look at him, were really effective. On the comedy side, I loved the transition of "can we get back to politics?" with Madison's tearful, "Please?!" Diggs as Jefferson is my favorite thing to watch in the background of any scene he's in. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6295857
cpcathy August 19, 2020 Share August 19, 2020 Daveed was my husband’s favorite performer from the film! I was so surprised, it’s not like him at all. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6296612
CailynA August 25, 2020 Share August 25, 2020 On 8/19/2020 at 11:59 AM, Archery said: On my second watch, I noticed that Angelica has tears in her eyes when she begins "It's Quiet Uptown," and at two other points (third watch), Eliza has rolling tears. That floored me, since, who would notice that from the audience, yet both actors were so totally committed. I had watched a video essay (relating to the film version of Les Miz) all about how actors should not cry when they sing a sad song, but L-MM's choked up verses in "Quiet," as Eliza will not look at him, were really effective. On the comedy side, I loved the transition of "can we get back to politics?" with Madison's tearful, "Please?!" Diggs as Jefferson is my favorite thing to watch in the background of any scene he's in. Pretty sure Christopher Jackson cries at the end of One Last Time too, I know he does in the WH performance. I still want to see this on stage but I truly appreciate the close ups. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6308039
wanderingstar August 27, 2020 Share August 27, 2020 I have a big crush on Daveed Diggs after watching this. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6312062
ElectricBoogaloo September 27, 2020 Share September 27, 2020 (edited) Daveed Diggs is hosting a celebrity storytime as a fundraiser for Fairyland (which was the inspiration for Disneyland) tonight at 6:30pm! You can watch at https://www.twitch.tv/fairylandca Kamala Harris, W. Kamau Bell, Boots Riley, Glynn Washington, Kathreen Khavari, Dave Cook, Erika Gonzalez, Jill Guerra, Sean Erick, Peter Limata, Meena Harris, and Tontra Love are just some of the storytellers scheduled to appear! Edited September 27, 2020 by ElectricBoogaloo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6370581
ElectricBoogaloo September 28, 2020 Share September 28, 2020 (edited) Hamilton cast members with a medley of Ham songs for National Voter Registration Day: Edited September 28, 2020 by ElectricBoogaloo 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6372965
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meep.meep November 4, 2020 Share November 4, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 5:11 AM, Enigma X said: I am just curious if anyone has read the Hamilton bio that inspired LMM? I did when it first came out (and am re-reading it now) and took it upon myself while in high school to read two other bios on Hamilton. I know you asked this a long time ago, but I just lifted a family curse and finished Chernow's biography. I listened to it - all 35 hours! It was fascinating to compare those politics to what's happening today, and not find many differences. The other thing I noticed was that in his duel with Burr, Hamilton actually referred to "throwing away his shot" when he fired in the air, not at Burr. And Aaron Burr was a real piece of work. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6434364
Enigma X November 4, 2020 Share November 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, meep.meep said: I know you asked this a long time ago, but I just lifted a family curse and finished Chernow's biography. I listened to it - all 35 hours! It was fascinating to compare those politics to what's happening today, and not find many differences. The other thing I noticed was that in his duel with Burr, Hamilton actually referred to "throwing away his shot" when he fired in the air, not at Burr. And Aaron Burr was a real piece of work. Yes, very interesting to me as well. But, as I said up thread, I have been intrigued by Alexander Hamilton since I was 15 (back in the '90s). Family curse??? I hope all is well. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6434402
SevenStars November 4, 2020 Share November 4, 2020 (edited) Looking at Arron Burr objectively, base on the story, I should hate him but I can't because Leslie is so good. I love Leslie . I can't count how many times I have watch Hamilton but I still can't stop rewinding Burr's scene. Because of Leslie, instead of hating Burr, I feel sorry for him. I love all the cast members, I think all of them were great. I'm so happy for Renee's success, as someone who knew her from OLTL when I was a little girl watching it with my Mom. I hated how she was treated on that show, so to see her shine brighter than ever, makes me really happy. Anyway, I still have a Disney account simply because this show is my happy place. It came pretty handing last night and today, instead of stressing over the election, I was able to experience this show again, and see new things. Edited November 4, 2020 by SevenStars 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6434430
ElectricBoogaloo November 5, 2020 Share November 5, 2020 Some more recent multicast performances: Dear Theodosia: In order of appearance: Hamiltons Jamael Westman - Eliza Julius Thomas III - And Peggy Pierre Jean Gonzalez - Philip Joseph Morales - Philip Edred Utomi - Angelica Miguel Cervantes - Broadway Burrs Nicholas Christopher - Eliza Josh Tower - Angelica Jared Dixon - Philip The Schuyler Sisters: In order of appearance: Ashley de la Rosa - Peggy (And Peggy Company) Marja Harmon - Angelica (And Peggy Company) Taylor Iman Jones - Peggy (Eliza Company) Zoe Jensen - Eliza (Angelica Company) Sabrina Sloan - Angelica (Eliza Company) Yana Perrault - Peggy (Angelica Company) Joanna A. Jones - Eliza (Eliza Company) Tarea Campbell - Angelica (Philip Company) Victoria Ann Scovens - Eliza (And Peggy Company) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6434929
Ohiopirate02 November 5, 2020 Share November 5, 2020 16 hours ago, SevenStars said: Looking at Arron Burr objectively, base on the story, I should hate him but I can't because Leslie is so good. I love Leslie . I can't count how many times I have watch Hamilton but I still can't stop rewinding Burr's scene. Because of Leslie, instead of hating Burr, I feel sorry for him. I read somewhere that there really is no way to objectively study Aaron Burr without falling in love with him. It might have been in the Chernow book about Alexander Hamilton. I do know I attempted to read Nancy Isenberg's biography of Aaron Burr, but bailed when I realized she could not be objective about Aaron. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6435135
Growsonwalls November 8, 2020 Share November 8, 2020 One of the best things about the Hamilton musical is the open-hearted, open-throated love LMM has for all the characters. Even the "villain" Jefferson is funny and endearing. It's a bit naive but it's part of the work's charm. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6439428
ElectricBoogaloo December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 Andrew Rannells and Jimmy Fallon review 2020 using songs from Broadway musicals. The Hamilton section is short but hilarious! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6491475
ElectricBoogaloo December 19, 2020 Share December 19, 2020 Leslie Odom Jr isolating from pregnant wife after potential exposure to COVID 19 from Ellen Degeneres Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6507798
ElectricBoogaloo February 3, 2021 Share February 3, 2021 Golden Globe nominations! BEST MOTION PICTURE – MUSICAL OR COMEDY BEST ACTOR – MUSICAL OR COMEDY - Lin-Manuel Miranda 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6583964
ElectricBoogaloo February 4, 2021 Share February 4, 2021 SAG Award nomination! Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Television Movie or Miniseries - Daveed Diggs 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6586763
Danny Franks February 4, 2021 Share February 4, 2021 On 8/3/2020 at 5:14 PM, Inquisitionist said: L-MM may not be the strongest singer/dancer, How can you even say that? I'm not really a fan of most of the music in Hamilton, but the story is interesting and the fact that a show about one of the lesser known Founding Fathers and the birth of the Republic became one of the hottest musicals ever will never not put a smile on my face. 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6586877
ElectricBoogaloo February 10, 2021 Share February 10, 2021 Critics' Choice Award nomination! BEST MOVIE MADE FOR TELEVISION 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6596522
ElectricBoogaloo February 28, 2021 Share February 28, 2021 Olympic medalist Laurie Hernandez has returned to competitive gymnastics for the first time since 2016 and she has a Hamilton themed floor routine! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6632642
kieyra March 2, 2021 Share March 2, 2021 Someone made Act I in Animal Crossing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6637251
ElectricBoogaloo March 8, 2021 Share March 8, 2021 Critics' Choice Award win! Best TV Movie 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6648875
ElectricBoogaloo March 9, 2021 Share March 9, 2021 Directors Guild of America nomination! Movies for Television and Limited Series: Thomas Kail - Hamilton 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6650765
ElectricBoogaloo March 9, 2021 Share March 9, 2021 Producers Guild of America nomination! Award for Outstanding Producer of Televised or Streamed Motion Pictures “Bad Education” (HBO) Producers: Fred Berger, Eddie Vaisman “Dolly Parton’s Christmas on the Square“ Producers: eligibility determination pending “Hamilton” (Disney Plus) Producers: Thomas Kail, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Jeffrey Seller “Jane Goodall: The Hope“ Producers: eligibility determination pending “What the Constitution Means To Me“ Producers: eligibility determination pending 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6650859
ElectricBoogaloo March 11, 2021 Share March 11, 2021 Inside Daveed Diggs and Emmy Raver-Lampman's colorful southern California home 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6656318
ElectricBoogaloo March 12, 2021 Share March 12, 2021 And there's a video tour of their home! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6657459
ElectricBoogaloo March 13, 2021 Share March 13, 2021 Daniel Belnavis talks about his experience being in the Hamilton cast He was in the first national tour (not the OBC) but I thought this might still be of interest to Hamilton fans Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6659485
ElectricBoogaloo March 25, 2021 Share March 25, 2021 Producers Guild of America award! Outstanding Producer of Televised or Streamed Motion Pictures: “Hamilton” (Disney Plus) – WINNER Producers: Thomas Kail, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Jeffrey Seller Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6682241
VengefulScorpio March 26, 2021 Share March 26, 2021 Thanks for that link, Electric Boogaloo. That was an interesting article. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6684171
Inquisitionist March 31, 2021 Share March 31, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 7:28 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said: Daniel Belnavis talks about his experience being in the Hamilton cast He was in the first national tour (not the OBC) but I thought this might still be of interest to Hamilton fans Very distressing. 😢 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6693287
ElectricBoogaloo April 11, 2021 Share April 11, 2021 Costume Designers Guild Award nomination! Excellence in Variety, Reality-Competition, Live Television Dancing with the Stars: "Villains Night" – Daniela Gschwendtner & Steven Norman LeeHamilton – Paul Tazewell The Masked Dancer: "Premiere" – Gabrielle Letamendi & Candice Rainwater The Masked Singer: "The Semi Finals" – Marina Toybina Saturday Night Live: "John Mulaney / The Strokes" – Tom Broecker & Eric Justian Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6714083
ElectricBoogaloo April 19, 2021 Share April 19, 2021 Cinema Audio Society award! TELEVISION NON-FICTION, VARIETY or MUSIC SERIES or SPECIALS: Hamilton Production Mixer – Justin Rathbun Re-Recording Mixer – Tony Volante Re-Recording Mixer – Roberto Fernandez Re-Recording Mixer – Tim Latham Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6729483
ElectricBoogaloo April 19, 2021 Share April 19, 2021 Costume Designers Guild Award win! Excellence in Variety, Reality-Competition, Live Television Hamilton – Paul Tazewell Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6729494
ElectricBoogaloo May 18, 2021 Share May 18, 2021 Renée Elise Goldsberry performing Those Magic Changes from Grease at Miscast 21: 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6788236
ElectricBoogaloo May 18, 2021 Share May 18, 2021 LaChanze singing Wait for It from Hamilton at Miscast 21 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6788339
ElectricBoogaloo June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 Daveed Diggs' movie Blindspotting has been adapted to a tv show. There's a forum for it here. The first episode airs on June 13. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/110012-hamilton-2020/page/6/#findComment-6818142
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