jewel21 March 15, 2020 Share March 15, 2020 Quote Conrad finds himself caught between his duties as a doctor and his loyalty to Kit, when he discovers that her son-in-law may be suffering from a serious disease. While moonlighting at a long-term care facility, Devon and Nic make a shocking discovery about a former patient who fell victim to Cain's manipulative practices. Meanwhile, after jumping into a new opportunity as a TV doctor, Bell is left without any surgeries and The Raptor brings him in to help on an important case. Airdate: 03/17/2020 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/
Guest March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 I've been meaning to ask this for multiple episodes (seasons?). What happened with Dr Bell? Didn't he used to kill patients because he was no longer capable of doing surgery? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008552
preeya March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 (edited) Two Scumbags: "Logan we have a problem" Edited March 18, 2020 by preeya 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008657
preeya March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said: I've been meaning to ask this for multiple episodes (seasons?). What happened with Dr Bell? Didn't he used to kill patients because he was no longer capable of doing surgery? That's ancient history. Bell has morphed into a new man and a good guy although he's not in good graces with the new management (Red Rock). 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008712
milner March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 Doesn’t the doctor who discovered the virus in the dead woman have to inform the US Center for Disease Control? And even if he doesn’t do so how does Cain expect to hide it once people start getting sick? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008783
preeya March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, milner said: Doesn’t the doctor who discovered the virus in the dead woman have to inform the US Center for Disease Control? And even if he doesn’t do so how does Cain expect to hide it once people start getting sick? Because he's Cain, infallible Cain. This is likely to be his comeuppance, if it doesn't play out for the rest of the season and become a cliffhanger. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008793
Bulldog March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 If I were the writers, I'd head to the nearest casino and try my luck. This superbug storyline had to have been written well in advance of the current virus situation. Please let this be the downfall of Cain / Kim. I have a hard time believing that someone as neurotic and needy as the wife/med student is blood related to the awesome Dr. Kit Voss. Heaven help any future patients she may have. The actress playing Dawn Long had to earn the easiest paycheck of her life for this episode. Two episodes in a row of no Mina. Should I be worried? Why is Devin moonlighting at the vent facility? Finally, because it cannot be said enough, RING. THE. BELL! 1 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008831
preeya March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bulldog said: Why is Devin moonlighting at the vent facility? He mentioned something about heavy med student debt. 8 minutes ago, Bulldog said: Please let this be the downfall of Cain / Kim. I'm hoping, but also hoping that it isn't dragged out. 10 minutes ago, Bulldog said: Heaven help any future patients she may have. True, but if this arc continues, I won't be surprised if she does a 180 and becomes a rock. That whole dead woman scene with the kids was really not necessary. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008863
rhys March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 Yeah it's hard to believe that the protocol for that infectious disease thing is just one phone call to the ordering doctor. There should be far more mechanisms in place once the lab guy discovered the infection. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6008876
Lady Calypso March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 Oh...well this episode came at an unfortunate time. Goddamn, when they had that "in recent of recent events" disclaimer, I was waiting to see if it was related to what's going on now. And then the last five minutes happened. I'm just confused as to why Cain stopped and did basically nothing once he got to Dawn's room and saw it being cleaned. He saw the guy wheel out the equipment, right? If he knew there was a superbug, he should have stopped him immediately. Not a bad episode, but I'm still waiting for Cain and Red Rock to be taken down. It's taking too long. Kit's back after several episodes of being absent! And I thoroughly enjoyed her story with her family. I really liked her daughter and I enjoyed their scenes together. Bell's TV Doctor storyline is not bad so far, but I fear that it's just the start to another bureaucratic arc for next season (should the series get renewed). So, at the moment, I have it at arm's length. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6009179
sempervivum March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 Based on the quickie preview, Cain is going to try to blame Conrad for the epidemic. So because Dawn was kept 'alive' for 6 months, Red Rock is allowed to officially count the 'mother of all surgeries' as a success? I was expecting when Bell was talking to the soccer team owner on screen that he'd (the owner) have a heart attack or start coughing up blood. Still don't understand why or how Bell can be a full time surgeon and tv star (is the show daily or just weekly?) 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6009478
Ohwell March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, sempervivum said: I was expecting when Bell was talking to the soccer team owner on screen that he'd (the owner) have a heart attack or start coughing up blood. I was expecting to see the same thing. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6009515
vibeology March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, sempervivum said: I was expecting when Bell was talking to the soccer team owner on screen that he'd (the owner) have a heart attack or start coughing up blood. Same. I couldn't figure out why he was still on the screen if it wasn't going to lead to drama. I guess a catch phrase was worth it. I think Bell is not grasping what it takes to be the star of a daily daytime TV show if he thinks he's also going to be in surgery. You've got production meetings, any sort of pre-tapes, all the promo work (and that can be anything from doing v.o. for radio, taping little bumpers for every station that airs your show, photo shoots, interviews to travelling to NYC or LA to appear on other shows) and the actual show which takes more than an hour to tape. I have no idea how he thinks he can do all of that and maintain a regular surgeon's schedule. I laughed at the superbug not because I don't take it seriously but because it's finally something that Cain can't bully and Kim can't manipulate into submission. As we've all learned, a disease doesn't care if you're a rainmaker or you're good with numbers. It will fuck up your entire life. I care about the other patients and hope they keep them safe (Kit's son-in-law just started chemo so that's not great) but I am looking forward to seeing Cain and Kim get their ass handed to them by a superbug. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6009914
preeya March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, vibeology said: I laughed at the superbug not because I don't take it seriously but because it's finally something that Cain can't bully and Kim can't manipulate into submission. As we've all learned, a disease doesn't care if you're a rainmaker or you're good with numbers. It will fuck up your entire life. I care about the other patients and hope they keep them safe (Kit's son-in-law just started chemo so that's not great) but I am looking forward to seeing Cain and Kim get their ass handed to them by a superbug. Not so sure that Cain/Kim won't be able to maneuver the situation to place the blame on someone else. Like maybe Devon, Nic, Conrad, etc. Or perhaps the facility where the woman was transferred from. His narcissistic personality won't allow him to take blame for this. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010036
Ohwell March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 I can see Kim placing the blame on Cain because I don't think Kim likes him that much anyway. In fact, once Cain is gone I can see Kim doing a 180 (kind of like Bell) and actually working with the rest of the staff. Farfetched, I know, but it's fun to speculate. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010064
CarpeFelis March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 20 hours ago, ParadoxLost said: I've been meaning to ask this for multiple episodes (seasons?). What happened with Dr Bell? Didn't he used to kill patients because he was no longer capable of doing surgery? He had a hand tremor which has been successfully treated (so far, at least) with medication. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010097
izabella March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Lady Calypso said: I'm just confused as to why Cain stopped and did basically nothing once he got to Dawn's room and saw it being cleaned. He saw the guy wheel out the equipment, right? If he knew there was a superbug, he should have stopped him immediately. He wanted to figure out how to blame someone else first, i.e., saving his own ass rather than saving anyone's life. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010147
vibeology March 18, 2020 Share March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, preeya said: Not so sure that Cain/Kim won't be able to maneuver the situation to place the blame on someone else. Like maybe Devon, Nic, Conrad, etc. Or perhaps the facility where the woman was transferred from. His narcissistic personality won't allow him to take blame for this. Red Rock owns the vent farm so that doesn’t save Kim. And that vent farm is full of Cain’s patients. Those two assholes can try to wiggle out of this but it’ll come back around to them every time. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010219
AdorkableWitch March 19, 2020 Share March 19, 2020 Is Bell's tv show a local show? If so, the commitment is a lot lower, especially if they bulk tape a week in a day. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010419
tvfanatic13 March 19, 2020 Share March 19, 2020 I think they had the scene with the family of the deceased woman to show that they are now all infected. Also Cain was touched by the person on the way out of the room. 1 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6010463
sweetandsour March 20, 2020 Share March 20, 2020 I'm not sure if/how Barrett "My Stats!" Cain will cover up that Dawn was patient zero and he was responsible for her. Even if her death was expected after the Mother of All Surgeries and her long stay at the vent farm, I think they will still do an autopsy, and it'll be performed by Pathology, not Cain. I'm not sure if Cain can stop an autopsy, or if he would have to convince the oldest surviving daughter of Dawn's to deny one. I also think Barrett Cain being so so so so insistent with nurse Skyler Day that Dawn's tests be in his name may come back to bite him in the ass, big-time. When it happened in the episode, it seemed like the only purpose was to keep Devon or any other doctors out of the case, so Dawn could make it past six months. There was no reason to think at the time it would fit any other narrative purpose. But maybe he'll try to spin some lies about someone else being responsible, and the paper trail will show otherwise. And if this is a case of "the cover-up being worse than the crime," he may get caught by trying to change the audit trail. But oh well, why would anyone care? Barrett "My Stats!" Cain has amazing stats (in case you didn't know) and has saved the lives of Winston Churchill and Willy Wonka. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6013347
twoods March 20, 2020 Share March 20, 2020 (edited) Yikes superbug. Hope this is the end of Cain and his stooge. I find it hard to believe that someone that neurotic can be in medical school and have a daughter, unless her husband really was her rock. At least she showed some competence by reading the EKG and got over her anxiety to be there for her husband. It’s good to see Kit again even though she’s getting such a sad storyline. It was nice to see Austin giving Bell a hard time. Austin has become one of my favorite characters. Where in the world is Mina? Taking care of her friend’s baby? Edited March 20, 2020 by twoods 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6013665
bros402 March 21, 2020 Share March 21, 2020 So, I think the stats they gave for Kit's son in law were a bit inaccurate - assuming "aggressive B Cell Lymphoma" is DLBCL - then that has something like an 85% survival rate - and it is curable, which is rare for a NHL. Also, didn't they say they were giving him R-CHOP? It didn't see the red devil on that IV pole! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6015565
Gregg247 March 23, 2020 Share March 23, 2020 (edited) Dr. Bell: "Can you imagine if Chastain Hospital killed the owner of our soccer team?" Uh oh, I wonder if Dr. Cain's virus is going to sweep through the hospital, from the bottom floor up to those luxurious penthouse hospital rooms. Can we call this the Cain Virus, or maybe the Red Rock Spotted Flu? Edited March 23, 2020 by Gregg247 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6020058
torqy March 28, 2020 Share March 28, 2020 (edited) On 3/20/2020 at 11:31 PM, bros402 said: So, I think the stats they gave for Kit's son in law were a bit inaccurate - assuming "aggressive B Cell Lymphoma" is DLBCL - then that has something like an 85% survival rate - and it is curable, which is rare for a NHL. Also, didn't they say they were giving him R-CHOP? It didn't see the red devil on that IV pole! They got at least some of their homework right regarding DLBCL. Mrs. Torqy went through this 8 years ago. Handled R-CHOP chemo well, now Dr. is talking cure instead of remission. I'm impressed when hospital shows get something at least half-right. Edited March 28, 2020 by torqy 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6030347
bros402 March 29, 2020 Share March 29, 2020 10 hours ago, torqy said: They got at least some of their homework right regarding DLBCL. Mrs. Torqy went through this 8 years ago. Handled R-CHOP chemo well, now Dr. is talking cure instead of remission. I'm impressed when hospital shows get something at least half-right. Yeah - 5 years is the cure mark for a good deal of cancers (especially blood cancers) It'd be nice to see a medical show get a chronic cancer right, though - they usually forget chronic cancers exist. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/107353-s03e18-so-long-dawn-long/#findComment-6031062
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