S04.E02: Great Expectations

[Leilani]

The first hour of episode 2 is available now on the TLC App!

• Darcey decodes mixed messages from Tom.
• Ed packs gifts for his queen.
• Yolanda has a confusing conversation with Williams.
• Geoffrey begins his journey to Russia.
• Avery seeks her parents approval.
• Lisa's friends are concerned for her safety.

 

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Edited February 25, 2020 by Leilani

[Spike]

Darcey and Stacey look ancient.

[Leilani]

12 minutes ago, Spike said:

Darcey and Stacey look ancient.

All that botox and surgery and they can't spend a few bucks on hair conditoner.

 

SojaBoy's song is growing on me.

No Neck and his asssitant seem like actors to me regurgitating the same old 90 Day lines.

I don't like the dollar store version of Angela and Michael.

Edited February 25, 2020 by Leilani

[Kangatush]

Now I'm starting to think that Williams isn't even in the UK.  "London" airport?  I've never even been, but I know it's either Heathrow or Gatwick.  And ASP Manchester Ltd looks like a car service.  How difficult is it to know your own airport?

[Christina]

The Silva sisters look like Jim Henson rejects and need to stop.

[Spike]

Ed is like Pole, demanding STD tests before boom boom.

[Cammi]

Stacy and Darcy look like the blobfish mermaid Chum from SNL

[DiamondGirl]

Why does Stacey’s face looked like she rubbed dirt into her skin???  They’re blown up lipwise into cartoon territory.  Yikes.

Ed’s coworker is so pretty.  I wonder if he’s trying to get a version of her.

Lisa has to buy a goat?  Like as a pet or dinner?  She’s gross.

 

[RealReality]

LMAO at Darcy thinking that dress is classy.

Is this desperation what passes for female empowerment now?

JFC!  Stacey looks HORRIBLE, like shockingly bad.  What the hell!

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

Why does Stacey’s face looked like she rubbed dirt into her skin???  They’re blown up lipwise into cartoon territory.  Yikes.

Ed’s coworker is so pretty.  I wonder if he’s trying to get a version of her.

Lisa has to buy a goat?  Like as a pet or dinner?  She’s gross.

 

Darcy looks bad, but Stacey looks like a fucking Gila monster. 

Jaysus, did she pay someone to look like that?

That face will be in my nightmares tonight.  They should have had a disclaimer because I feel like TLC should be paying me for emotional distress. 

22 hours ago, Christina said:

The Silva sisters look like Jim Henson rejects and need to stop.

Darcy needs to stop.  Stacey needed to stop about 5 procedures ago.  Florian is the real hero here because can you imagine waking up to that?

[RealReality]

****LOL, Lisa has a ring finger tattoo.  Tania is gonna be pissed that she is not as uniquely trendsetting as she thinks she is since old lady Lisa got hers like 20 years ago****

Edited March 3, 2020 by RealReality

[Spike]

26 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Florian is the real hero here because can you imagine waking up to that?

Luckily young guys have access to Cialis too.

21 minutes ago, RealReality said:

****LOL, Lisa has a ring finger tattoo.  Tania is gonna be pissed that she is not as uniquely trendsettinf as she thinks she is since old lady Lisa got hers like 20 years ago****

Lisa didn’t need an Oreo Frappuccino.

[mamadrama]

Darcy trying to drink through the straw=entertainment for me.

Geoffrey can go away at anytime.

Gah. Darcy's comment on her birthday actually made me sad. She needs help and Tom needs to be bitch-slapped (just in general, not for anything specific). 

[Spike]

48 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Darcy trying to drink through the straw=entertainment for me.

Geoffrey can go away at anytime.

Gah. Darcy's comment on her birthday actually made me sad. She needs help and Tom needs to be bitch-slapped (just in general, not for anything specific). 

I thought at a certain age a vain person would downplay a birthday.  But she likes to manufacture grievances.

[mamadrama]

38 minutes ago, Spike said:

I thought at a certain age a vain person would downplay a birthday.  But she likes to manufacture grievances.

What, Darcy giving up a day that literally celebrates her entrance into the world?  Her own personal holiday? Never! Of course, she may claim to be 43 for the next 10 years... 😉

[Baltimore Betty]

On 2/25/2020 at 12:15 AM, Kangatush said:

Now I'm starting to think that Williams isn't even in the UK.  "London" airport?  I've never even been, but I know it's either Heathrow or Gatwick.  And ASP Manchester Ltd looks like a car service.  How difficult is it to know your own airport?

Well, when one claims to live in London, one would think they are familiar with the airports...this scammer lives somewhere else.  Frankly I am waiting for the next shoe(s) to drop, one shoe will be Yolanda and daughter go to London and he is nowhere around and/or the other shoe is he will call her as she deplanes and says he had to fly somewhere for a family emergency and now he needs plane fare to return to London.

Yolanda may be a nice person with nice kids but she is an idiot.

 

[greekmom]

17 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

Why does Stacey’s face looked like she rubbed dirt into her skin???  They’re blown up lipwise into cartoon territory.  Yikes.

Lisa has to buy a goat?  Like as a pet or dinner?  She’s gross.

 

TLC needs to stop funding Darcy and Stacey.  Darcy needs rehab and both need to stop the plastic surgery.

I hope TLC shows not only Lisa buying a live goat by that they serve it for dinner the next night. Please TLC make this happen. I want to see the horror on her face.

[AZChristian]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

What, Darcy giving up a day that literally celebrates her entrance into the world?  Her own personal holiday? Never! Of course, she may claim to be 43 for the next 10 years... 😉

I want to know for how many years she's BEEN claiming to be 43.

[Cementhead]

Holy Hell, The Sisters have hit the end of the road plastic surgery wall HARD.  And when Darcey did her little bit to introduce herself and said she was 45 (or was it 44?) , I almost fell off my couch.  And I am a regular watcher.  Because this has been a HARD year on her face.  The surgery has finally caught up with her and it's all downhill from here.

[Spike]

15 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

Holy Hell, The Sisters have hit the end of the road plastic surgery wall HARD.  And when Darcey did her little bit to introduce herself and said she was 45 (or was it 44?) , I almost fell off my couch.  And I am a regular watcher.  Because this has been a HARD year on her face.  The surgery has finally caught up with her and it's all downhill from here.

And who knows If she is not shaving years off that number.

[RealReality]

36 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

Holy Hell, The Sisters have hit the end of the road plastic surgery wall HARD.  And when Darcey did her little bit to introduce herself and said she was 45 (or was it 44?) , I almost fell off my couch.  And I am a regular watcher.  Because this has been a HARD year on her face.  The surgery has finally caught up with her and it's all downhill from here.

At this point the only way Darcy looks normal is by standing next to Stacey. 

Stacey looks downright scary and whoever did that to her should be sued for malpractice.  No same person chooses to look like Stacey, so either her doctor fucked up or operates on someone who is mentally ill and shouldn't be able to consent. 

[libgirl2]

2 hours ago, RealReality said:

At this point the only way Darcy looks normal is by standing next to Stacey. 

Stacey looks downright scary and whoever did that to her should be sued for malpractice.  No same person chooses to look like Stacey, so either her doctor fucked up or operates on someone who is mentally ill and shouldn't be able to consent. 

I'll have to look for a picture.

 

Edited February 26, 2020 by libgirl2

[Christina]

On the first episode, everyone was rightfully outraged at Rose's son calling Ed "daddy." On this episode, he told his coworker that he had been sending her gifts for three months, but I'm not sure if he was saying it was three months ago that he met her or just started sending gifts. If it was only three months ago, he should have shut the "daddy" name down immediately himself.

Sharp is trying to get my hopes up that Patient Zero will be kidnapped after landing in Nigeria but I'm onto their trickery. Unless, they plan to have her kidnapped for our viewing pleasure. Nah, can't be fooled again. I find her extremely obnoxious.

I don't remember where I read it, here, Reddit or Facebook, but in a conversation about Larissa, someone who has Borderline Personality Disorder was discussing how one of the hallmarks of the disorder is the distorted self-image (Larissa has BPD and has butchered her face, too) and said that she believes Darcey also has the disorder not only because of her constant cosmetic procedures but because of her unstable and chaotic interpersonal relationships, another hallmark of the disorder. Wikipedia link. Also noted on the wiki link, - intense or uncontrollable emotional reactions that often seem disproportionate to the event or situation.

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I'll have to look for a picture.

 

Prepare yourself!

[Spike]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

Prepare yourself!

Just google Jocelyn Wildenstein.  Close enough. 

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, Christina said:

On the first episode, everyone was rightfully outraged at Rose's son calling Ed "daddy." On this episode, he told his coworker that he had been sending her gifts for three months, but I'm not sure if he was saying it was three months ago that he met her or just started sending gifts. If it was only three months ago, he should have shut the "daddy" name down immediately himself.

Sharp is trying to get my hopes up that Patient Zero will be kidnapped after landing in Nigeria but I'm onto their trickery. Unless, they plan to have her kidnapped for our viewing pleasure. Nah, can't be fooled again. I find her extremely obnoxious.

I don't remember where I read it, here, Reddit or Facebook, but in a conversation about Larissa, someone who has Borderline Personality Disorder was discussing how one of the hallmarks of the disorder is the distorted self-image (Larissa has BPD and has butchered her face, too) and said that she believes Darcey also has the disorder not only because of her constant cosmetic procedures but because of her unstable and chaotic interpersonal relationships, another hallmark of the disorder. Wikipedia link. Also noted on the wiki link, - intense or uncontrollable emotional reactions that often seem disproportionate to the event or situation.

My mom has borderline personality disorder and I've witnessed it first-hand for the past 40 years. While I do see some similarities with Darcy, I'm not sold on it. There are some pretty common traits found in BPD that Darcy hasn't exhibited on our screen or in her social media. There are lots of things out there that could fit what we've seen: bi-polar disorder, old fashion depression or alcoholism, body dysmorphia, abandonment issues...In other words, there are several different things that could be wrong with her. I'm generally not a fan of armchair diagnoses, though. What we're seeing is a small sliver of her life-slivers that are highly edited to ensure the utmost entertainment factor is achieved. 

It seems now that whenever a woman acts crazy Borderline is tossed out there. It's becoming one of the catch-alls. People always want to pull out the big guns, but the "signs" pointed out in that Reddit post could fall under several different personality disorders or forms of mental ilness. It's not all Glen Close boiling bunnies; there are lots of subleties that are much more indicative of the disorder and these aren't necessarily going to come across to us. 

Maybe it shouldn't matter, since everyone is allowed their own opinions, but for those of us who were raised by Borderline parents it becomes personal. The emotional abuse is something that many of us continue to struggle with. I have friends in my support group who tried committing suicide before they were even teens due to the turmoil of their household. We tend to take a discussion of it pretty seriously.

[Spike]

Is personality disorder NOS (not otherwise specified) different than borderline?

[mamadrama]

18 minutes ago, Spike said:

Is personality disorder NOS (not otherwise specified) different than borderline?

Yes. Imagine most of us and how we function from day to day: we might feel a little down, maybe a little excited, and maybe happy at some point during the day but for the most part we live in a kind of "medium". Borderline people don't. They are either REALLY high or REALLY low and it can change at the drop of a hat. There's no middle ground for them. 

[Christina]

2 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I'm generally not a fan of armchair diagnoses, though.

That's the reason I watch. Seeing people make fools of themselves on television is the only entertainment factor in this show. I diagnose every single person who appears with mostly made up mental disorders, like Attention-Seeking Famewhoreities and Raging Asshole Syndrome.

Larissa admits to being diagnosed with BPD and HPD, at least she did as part of a GFM scam, but I'm not aware of Darcey ever admitting anything is wrong with her, including her obvious substance abuse issues. 

Edited February 27, 2020 by Christina
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[charmed1]

Ed’s young, conventionally attractive “co-worker” is brought in to ask him questions about the love of his life he’s never met. Same scene we got with Caesar. Internet will ask, “she’s pretty. Why won’t Ed just date her?” As if a young, rational woman would have any interest in a broke, portly middle aged goofus who mayonnaises his hair or stockpiles chocolate panties.

Edited February 27, 2020 by charmed1

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, charmed1 said:

Ed’s young, conventionally attractive “co-worker” is brought in to ask him questions about the love of his life he’s never met. Same scene we got with Caesar. Internet will ask, “she’s pretty. Why won’t Ed just date her?” As if a young, rational woman would have any interest in a broke, portly middle aged goofus who mayonnaises his hair or stockpiles chocolate panties.

So much this. 

I wouldn't even expect a reasonable looking woman in Ed's age range to be interested.  Not just for the obvious reasons, but he also managed to cheat on what appeared to be a slender, normal sized woman before the two year mark. 

But everyone assumes a young, pretty, slim girl is really pining for Ed?  Or ceasar?  Why?  

[Spike]

16 minutes ago, RealReality said:

So much this. 

I wouldn't even expect a reasonable looking woman in Ed's age range to be interested.  Not just for the obvious reasons, but he also managed to cheat on what appeared to be a slender, normal sized woman before the two year mark. 

But everyone assumes a young, pretty, slim girl is really pining for Ed?  Or ceasar?  Why?  

Yeah he may be her supervisor or friends with one so she may be feigning concern for office politics.  But I got zero vibe that she is into him.  Why would people think just because the troll wants the attractive person there would be reciprocation?

Also I would think someone who hasn’t had sex in 30 years would be bad at it.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Spike

[DiamondGirl]

Darcy and Stacey....

 

[Cementhead]

3 hours ago, Spike said:

Also I would think someone who hasn’t had sex in 30 years would be bad at it.

Did Ed say this?  Good gravy, I missed that nugget.  No words.  Also, Rosemarie literally looks like a child.  The show tells me she is 23 years old which I found surprising because her photos looked like those of a 14 year old.  And so I have not very good thoughts about Ed. 

11 minutes ago, DiamondGirl said:

Darcy and Stacey....

 

These are actually better representations of what I saw of them on the actual show.  These still shots are much more flattering! 

[charmed1]

The Silva twins now both look like Jar Jar Binks.

[mamadrama]

5 hours ago, Cementhead said:

Did Ed say this?  Good gravy, I missed that nugget.  No words.  Also, Rosemarie literally looks like a child.  The show tells me she is 23 years old which I found surprising because her photos looked like those of a 14 year old.  And so I have not very good thoughts about Ed. 

These are actually better representations of what I saw of them on the actual show.  These still shots are much more flattering! 

I'm speechless. My 8yo daughter isn't, though. She saw them and said, "Mommy, it looks like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down."

 

[Spike]

16 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

I'm speechless. My 8yo daughter isn't, though. She saw them and said, "Mommy, it looks like they fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down."

 

Sounds like she should be joining this board in a few years.

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

Sounds like she should be joining this board in a few years.

She's my snark partner. Our own Pillow Talk for My 600 LB Life is my favorite part of the week. 

I'm really confused about the wedding dress scene. Granted I was only tuned in with one ear, but what was the purpose? They were getting design ideas or something? Are they STILL trying to pretend that HOE is a real thing? 

[Spike]

53 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

She's my snark partner. Our own Pillow Talk for My 600 LB Life is my favorite part of the week. 

I'm really confused about the wedding dress scene. Granted I was only tuned in with one ear, but what was the purpose? They were getting design ideas or something? Are they STILL trying to pretend that HOE is a real thing? 

Yeah they said they are designs for House of Eleven.  The Wench Collection.

[mamadrama]

51 minutes ago, Spike said:

Yeah they said they are designs for House of Eleven.  The Wench Collection.

I thought that's what she said but it made no sense to me since HOE hasn't been active in...? 

And they REALLY think people will wear those? As in actual people outside of the porn and stripping industries?

[mamadrama]

Damn it. My daughter and I sat here and came up with some stuff for Geoffrey's scenes, but I just realized that some of it's probably considered spoilerish. Now I have to go pay his own thread some attention...

[Baltimore Betty]

The wedding dress scene with Dumb & Dumber was stupid, neither one of them are getting married, neither one of them are qualified to design wedding dresses (for any market including stripper weddings), it makes me sad that getting married is their end goal at any cost although think of the spin off's from the spin off's..."Darcey Gets Married," all the way thru to "Darcey Gets Divorced, again." 

 

[charmed1]

Geoffrey of course fashions himself as some type of drug dealing Jean Valjean, but doesn’t explain why he has a bunch of other mugshots. He does look like the psycho killer stepdad in every Lifetime movie.

[Spike]

25 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

Geoffrey of course fashions himself as some type of drug dealing Jean Valjean, but doesn’t explain why he has a bunch of other mugshots. He does look like the psycho killer stepdad in every Lifetime movie.

With a series of bad haircuts.

[AZChristian]

12 hours ago, mamadrama said:

And they REALLY think people will wear those? As in actual people outside of the porn and stripping industries?

Have you ever watched Say Yes to the Dress?  LOTS of people wear these dresses.

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Have you ever watched Say Yes to the Dress?  LOTS of people wear these dresses.

I've never seen that show, but I HAVE seen the Big Fat Gypsy Wedding episodes so I don't know why I was so surprised. 

[Kangatush]

13 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I thought that's what she said but it made no sense to me since HOE hasn't been active in...? 

And they REALLY think people will wear those? As in actual people outside of the porn and stripping industries?

I think they said they were getting ideas for HOE (what a loving tribute to their brother).  My tribute frozen food line Really Awesome Kewl Eats is in development.  What ideas do you get wearing matching dresses?

And I was surprised when I saw how many brides mistake slutty for sexy.  I know I wouldn't want my parents, let alone his parents, seeing that much of me.

P.S.  The only diagnoses I hand out are idiots and/or assholes.

P.P.S.  On the over-diagnosis of BPD, I had a doc once tell me that's what I had, because I made some stupid choices in my 20s.  I disagreed.  And since I'm no longer doing that, and I don't think one day you just stop having BPD, I'm gonna say that I was right.

 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by Kangatush

[AZChristian]

11 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

And I was surprised when I saw how many brides mistake slutty for sexy.  I know I wouldn't want my parents, let alone his parents, seeing that much of me.

There's a reason why many churches have wedding coordinators.  Part of their job is to keep the pastor from having a heart attack when the bride starts down the aisle.  

Some people have lots of money for slutty dresses, but not a penny for common sense or decorum in a religious setting.

If a bride wants to dress like this, they should rent a non-religious venue or get married on a beach.

[Spike]

Whatever happened to saving the view of some parts of your body just for your spouse?  And don’t many weddings still have kiddos as ring bearers and flower girls?  They shouldn’t be subjected to soft porn.

[RealReality]

42 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

 

 

P.S.  The only diagnoses I hand out are idiots and/or assholes.

P.P.S.  On the over-diagnosis of BPD, I had a doc once tell me that's what I had, because I made some stupid choices in my 20s.  I disagreed.  And since I'm no longer doing that, and I don't think one day you just stop having BPD, I'm gonna say that I was right.

 

 

I think that's what kinda sucks for people who legitimately have BPD because I think it often ends up being the diagnosis of choice for people who are probably just assholes. 

When I read records I see how often the BPD diagnosis is made by a PA an NP or a GP who has no real in depth training in the diagnosis and so it ends up just looking like the diagnosis is little more than an excuse for people to justify their poor behavior.