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17 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Lulu, just because Martin is your uncle doesn't mean it's okay to break into his hotel room and rifle through his professional papers. WTF reason was that?

i just saw this clip. Like do you think you can go into a court of law, and say that and the judge will go "Oh okay then?" like. shut up. 

and honestly, if this was just about Dante knowing the truth, then Lulu would have told him the truth the second he found out. this is totally 60/40 screwing BLQ over. 

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12 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Chase's "wife."

Why the quotes? Chase and BL are married. She is his wife.

10 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

And, not for nothing, demanding that no one be told she was in the hospital isn't the best idea for someone with a young child. 

Which was dumb because everyone who needed to know found out soon enough anyway. Don't take someone to GH and expect it to be kept confidential. Even Sonny knows this!  Doesn't the WSB have some super sekrit clinic nearby?

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15 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Which was dumb because everyone who needed to know found out soon enough anyway. Don't take someone to GH and expect it to be kept confidential. Even Sonny knows this!

Silly dubbel zout! Don't you know that was done so everyone could see how much Not!Brennan had fallen twu wuv with the Harpy/Cujo?

 

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2 hours ago, Daisy said:

and honestly, if this was just about Dante knowing the truth, then Lulu would have told him the truth the second he found out. this is totally 60/40 screwing BLQ over. 

For sure.  She's acting so fucking smug about this.  And don't even get me started on her essentially saying she was allowed to break the law because it was a family member.  Like, fuck off, Nulu.

Also, did I miss a scene where it was decided Rocco would live with her full time?  And I'm totally betting on Tracy offering up the gatehouse to her because of course.

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35 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

did I miss a scene where it was decided Rocco would live with her full time?

You did not because there was no such scene. She’s just decided that he will live with her because that’s what she wants and to hell with his father.

Not to mention to hell with what Rocco wants.

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3 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Did anyone miss Lulu? I sure as hell wasn't in a rush to see her back.

I hated JMB's version and ER's version was juvenile. This version is as abrasive as JMB's version ever was.

Yeah, I didn't like ER's GirlReporter persona, but having Lulu back now has reminded me how much I couldn't STAND JMB's version.  

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3 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Yeah, I didn't like ER's GirlReporter persona, but having Lulu back now has reminded me how much I couldn't STAND JMB's version.  

the same. it would have been different if she came out of the coma and she was basically. gentler, softer, and you know, grew up. but its like she regressed back to 2000. but this show has this nasty habit of never knowing when to let people just. go.  so many people were like "Laura needs her kids..." so here we are. 

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12 hours ago, Auntie Velvet said:

Hey, Superspy Devane: Maybe cut the headlights when you're trying to sneak up on a showdown.

Didn't she come from work?  Why the big show of getting the gun out of a lock box in the trunk?  Isn't it a little late to show up on the docks, then get out a gun?  

I thought Dante ran out of GH to track down Valentin.  Why does he go and hang out at the station, other than to run into Chase (for an awkward conversation on Chase's part)?  Does Dante think Valentin will be in the squad room?  

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Why the quotes? Chase and BL are married. She is his wife.

Yes, no argument there. The quotes were because he kept emphasizing that Brook Lynn is his wife and he's determined to protect her from the harassment of Lulu the bully. Lulu and Brook Lynn had one nasty confrontation. Chase is acting like Lulu has taken multiple opportunities to pressure and/or threaten Brook Lynn that she better tell Dante the truth very soon or else. You would think Brook Lynn is sitting at home in tears because Lulu has just been so horrible to her for weeks.  

If Brook Lynn had put on her big girl pants and told Dante the truth during one of the numerous times they've seen each other as adults - knowing he's a good man who wouldn't just blow a kid's world apart for selfish reasons (he's not her beloved Uncle Sonny!!) - there wouldn't be an issue now. 

And I say this as someone who has only ever liked Lulu in a few scenes, like when JMB's Lulu raged at Sonny/Jason for shooting Dante and some emotional scenes between AH's Lulu and Laura or Dante. 

 

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24 minutes ago, Daisy said:

it would have been different if she came out of the coma and she was basically. gentler, softer, and you know, grew up. but its like she regressed back to 2000.

This is my complaint, as well. I think AH is a very good recast, but the character hasn't changed at all. Isn't one of the points of putting characters into endless comas to tweak them a bit when they wake up? Trust GH to fail at everything.

@Bringonthedrama, thanks for the explanation. 

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9 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

This is my complaint, as well. I think AH is a very good recast, but the character hasn't changed at all. Isn't one of the points of putting characters into endless comas to tweak them a bit when they wake up? Trust GH to fail at everything.

 

i mean this in the best of compliments. 
Alexa Havens is really good at making me hate her characters  LMAO. 

26 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

If Brook Lynn had put on her big girl pants and told Dante the truth during one of the numerous times they've seen each other as adults - knowing he's a good man who wouldn't just blow a kid's world apart for selfish reasons (he's not her beloved Uncle Sonny!!) - there wouldn't be an issue now. 

 

i am usually team. "tell people."
but I think Brook Lynn also had the right not saying anything. she had a baby, and put it up for adoption and didn't even "think" about it (because you know, we NEED to retcon everything). until it smacked her in the face. and I think she has the right to tell Dante in her own way without being harassassed by Shrewlu

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You will be happy with them today @GHScorpiosRule

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I seem to recall it took quite some time for the Polonium to affect Luke, and he looked HORRIBLE, not to mention SICK. Guess Frank is too fuckasscheap to put in the effort. Quelle Shock.

Or pandering to Carly stans who don't want to see her look sick

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Did anyone miss Lulu? I sure as hell wasn't in a rush to see her back.

I hated JMB's version and ER's version was juvenile. This version is as abrasive as JMB's version ever was.

For me, the fact that I liked Dante's relationship with Sam, it was one of the few truly adult relationships in the show, makes this Lulu and how the show is pushing her and Dante together even worse.

54 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

If Brook Lynn had put on her big girl pants and told Dante the truth during one of the numerous times they've seen each other as adults - knowing he's a good man who wouldn't just blow a kid's world apart for selfish reasons (he's not her beloved Uncle Sonny!!) - there wouldn't be an issue now.

Brook Lynn said that it's a torment knowing that she has a child out there but cannot contact him/her and she doesn't want Dante to go through that.

Unless the child is actively looking for its birth parents, I'm with Brook Lynn on this.

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Has anyone pointed out to Drew that the mausoleum he's so obsessed with moving contains his family members too? That's the angle Tracy should be using: "Heartless Congressman Wants to Uproot His Family Crypt." The Invader should be all over this. Forget threatening Drew with lawsuits and stuff. Crush him with bad press!

2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Unless the child is actively looking for its birth parents, I'm with Brook Lynn on this.

They made a point of saying the adoption was closed, through a Catholic agency. Traditionally that meant neither the child nor birth parents could seek the other out, but the laws surrounding adoption are evolving and dependent by state. As always, the show does no research for how things should play out; had they just had Lois use an attorney, they could fiddle with legalities in a less offensive manner, IMO.

9 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I'm more upset that BLQ is mad at Lois for telling her mother. Like yeah I think if i were a young mom i'd need my mom to help me out here too.

I liked that conversation between Lois and BL. I understand why BL is angry, but I think she'll see that telling Gloria wasn't a betrayal. Aren't we to think that Gloria helped Lois with the adoption? That's the impression I've gotten. 

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1 minute ago, Daisy said:

put it up for adoption and didn't even "think" about it (because you know, we NEED to retcon everything). until it smacked her in the face. and I think she has the right to tell Dante in her own way without being harassassed by Shrewlu

Except she just admitted to Chase this week that she did think about it (when AL's Brook Lynn was trying to break up Dante and Lulu) and had the opportunity to do so but decided not to because Dante was in love with Lulu and not interested in her. For me, that makes all of this much worse. He and Lulu are solid? Well fine, I'm moving on with my life and Dante never gets to know and nobody ever gets to hold me accountable for my actions or I'll lash out. Hmm, no wonder she gets along great with "Uncle" Sonny and Carly.

As for today, I loved seeing Elizabeth in green soon after St. Patrick's Day and seeing Lucky with an Eckert's box, which for me is a nod to his history with cousin Sly.  The flirting and chaste kisses were sweet, but "a lot to talk about" still hasn't happened weeks after that episode. Yet the Show gives him time to hear Kristina worry and complain about Sonny and Ava. Grrrr!

The preview scene of Alexis and Valentin could be interesting.  

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How can Jason just walk into the police station and demand to speak to Valentin? Not only is he a civilian, he has police record. TFGH where the mob are the heroes.

Carly fights everyone to be with Brennan. She is going to look very stupid (to the audience if not the characters on the show) when she finds out what he's been doing with her daughter.

Kristina, as Wayne Dwyer says, it's not the bite of the snake that kills you, it's the poison flowing through your system.

What is it with this show and running for office? Don't ruin Kai like that.

I wanted to know what Valentin wanted from Alexis because the rest of the episode wasn't really enjoyable.

Councillor Boyle was played by Daniel Cosgrove AKA Billy Lewis from Guiding LIght.

7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

 As always, the show does no research for how things should play out; had they just had Lois use an attorney, they could fiddle with legalities in a less offensive manner, IMO.

I'm sure that there are plenty of young people out there who would love to have an unpaid internship that would handle all those pesky legal and medical issues as well as checking the history of the show so they don't keep having to retcon.

Speaking of which, it's hard to believe that Ava has all these money issues. She's been a successful businesswoman for years. I find it very hard to believe that 1. the IRS is going to repossess both her galleries for back taxes when she only lost her money a couple of months ago and 2. cannot get a loan from any bank to cover her financial difficulties.

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43 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

You will be happy with them today @GHScorpiosRule

Brook Lynn said that it's a torment knowing that she has a child out there but cannot contact him/her and she doesn't want Dante to go through that.

@GHScorpiosRule They got to have a few minutes of happiness.

I think Brook Lynn feels tormented now because of what she's going through with Chase, but a woman who felt truly tormented regarding her child doesn't turn around and fake a pregnancy for the sole purpose of manipulating a man she knows is a devoted father, because she screwed up with her family and wants to redeem herself. I don't even like Valentin and I thought that was cruel.

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18 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Except she just admitted to Chase this week that she did think about it (when AL's Brook Lynn was trying to break up Dante and Lulu) and had the opportunity to do so but decided not to because Dante was in love with Lulu and not interested in her. For me, that makes all of this much worse. He and Lulu are solid? Well fine, I'm moving on with my life and Dante never gets to know and nobody ever gets to hold me accountable for my actions or I'll lash out. Hmm, no wonder she gets along great with "Uncle" Sonny and Carly.

 

 

i stand corrected. sorry. only going by what goes on here and the few clips per usual.

18 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

when she finds out what he's been doing with her daughter.

what is he doing?!?

I like Van Hansis as Lucas, but no actor has been able to sell the idea that Lucas and Carly are so close. I have to stop and think they're related in the first place, which is made obvious by the show constantly telling us that they're brother and sister.

22 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Speaking of which, it's hard to believe that Ava has all these money issues. She's been a successful businesswoman for years.

I can buy the money issues—the economy, not selling as many paintings as expected, etc.—but I can't buy Ava having no idea how badly she's in the red. Not knowing her credit card limit? That's ridiculous, and they'd never write this crap for a man (unless he were Julian or maybe Ric, the eternal male goats).

"I hope you think of me as a friend." Really, Drew? You are blackmailing Portia. Accept that she might find you something less than a friend. He was also strangely confrontational when Portia told him to take the win. You keep pushing and she might decide to tell all, consequences be damned. (Portia should tell Curtis what's going on. Drew is a common enemy, and I'm pretty sure Curtis won't be mad about the test result changes for too long. Heather is also a common enemy.)

Valentin's facial hair situation just gets more and more terrible.

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

what is he doing?!?

Brennan is trying to turn Joss into a WSB agent.

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4 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

They got to have a few minutes of happiness.

That's something to look forward to watching!

5 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I think Brook Lynn feels tormented now because of what she's going through with Chase, but a woman who felt truly tormented regarding her child doesn't turn around and fake a pregnancy for the sole purpose of manipulating a man she knows is a devoted father, because she screwed up with her family and wants to redeem herself. I don't even like Valentin and I thought that was cruel.

This is just further proof of how lazy and don't give a shit about what they've previously written by the hacks. It was never original canon that Dante and Brookie were ever in "wuv" or whatever, so of course she wouldn't care about faking a pregnancy to get one over on Valentin. By retconning history-some of which happened under Frank's WATCH, you have this clusterfuck.

3 minutes ago, Daisy said:

what is he doing?!?

Not!Brennan has blackmailed MiniCujo into working for the WSB and she's off on "Easter Island" because his ass didn't take care of Cyrus or let Anna know he knew that Cyrus killed Dex, etc., etc.

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

I like Van Hansis as Lucas, but no actor has been able to sell the idea that Lucas and Carly are so close. I have to stop and think they're related in the first place, which is made obvious by the show constantly telling us that they're brother and sister.

PREACH!

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16 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Doesn't change the fact that those were confidential files, so not only was it immoral, it was illegal. I think the passing years, a secret like that it would be harder to reveal, not easier, no matter how safe Dante is. And regarding today's show, no matter how "tiny" Lulu is, I'm glad Chase confronted her. He is right; her prime motivation is her dislike for BL, not a sense of justice for Dante. All her getting in BL's face constantly is going to make BL try harder to keep the secret. Chase forcing Lulu to give BL space, might allow him to convince BL to come clean to Dante. And unlike the Charlotte situation where Valentin was raising her, neither Dante or BL raised Gio, BL didn't know she had a son. 

I totally see where Chase is coming from.  My only point - and perhaps I didn't make it well - was that the dynamics and optics of that particular conversation were somewhat bizarre.

If there was a Mrs. Wolfe - and someone were threatening her - parts of that person would be found scattered in ten different zip codes across three time zones.

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8 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Not!Brennan has blackmailed MiniCujo into working for the WSB and she's off on "Easter Island" because his ass didn't take care of Cyrus or let Anna know he knew that Cyrus killed Dex, etc., etc.

He's put Joss in danger and has her lying to Carly about what she is doing and where. He is also keeping her from knowing about Carly's poisoning.

For most women, it would be enough to put them off a man permanently. With Carly, who knows? She's certainly fighting everyone hard to be able to stay with Brennan.

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Alexis should tell Ava that the terms of the Cassadine estate don't allow for loans to anyone. That way it satisfies Kristina's ridiculous vendetta and might even stop Ava from trying to get anything else from the trust.

Lucas and Elizabeth were hilarious. I loved his description of Mario—"...tall enough...," hee—and her excitement, then Lucas brightly tells her he barfed all over Mario. Yes, Elizabeth, it was quite the meet-cute.

What happened to Jason that he thinks telling Carly she can't do something will mean she won't do it?

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All these people telling Carly that Brennan is DANGEROUS and that she should stop seeing him THIS MINUTE, while she’s been 100% living in Mobville for decades. 

Spare me.

Of course she’ll go ballistic when she finds out about Joss, but the double standard hurts, and the way the writers are infantilizing another female character grates.

Speaking of hurt, Ava is taking another tumble down into helpless land. Didn’t Nina agree to give her a loan? 

I could understand her grovelling tour and being taken down was due to  the fact that she allowed Sonny’s meds to be messed with, but this is completely  manufactured to take a strong female character down, and I hate it.

Especially when separated from reality Kristina, is allowed to kick her.

It was nice to see Daniel Cosgrove on my screen but his suit fit worse than Drew’s and he just seems slimy. Two things we already have in Drew so yuck.

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25 minutes ago, Desperado said:

Didn’t Nina agree to give [Ava] a loan? 

Ava's accountant told her it covered her mortgages for the month (or whatever) but she's still in dire financial straits.

27 minutes ago, Desperado said:

All these people telling Carly that Brennan is DANGEROUS and that she should stop seeing him THIS MINUTE, while she’s been 100% living in Mobville for decades. 

To be fair, they were also telling her the same thing about Sonny for years. She doesn't care. The heart (that is bravestrongandloveswithallofit) wants what it wants.

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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Ava is right about Kristina. Coddling her will only make it worse. And what's with the text message to Lucky that  felt like an order?

The text was so weird, like Lucky and Kristina were up to some shady shenanigans and not that Kristina had lost her keys and was desperate to overshare with Lucky. I do love JJs “please confide in anyone but me” reactions though. 

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3 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Dear Jason,

Carly is like a child. The more you forbid her to do something, the more she'll want to do it. Don't waste your breath.

Sincerely,

Me

I'm waiting for Carly to scream "you're not the boss of me" like any good grade schooler would.

Loved seeing Alexis and Valentin together even if it was super brief.  I really like their dynamic.

Also, that green sweater of Becky's was to die for.  And, as always, shut up, kristina.  Good lord, she's obsessed.

 

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4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

damned. (Portia should tell Curtis what's going on. Drew is a common enemy, and I'm pretty sure Curtis won't be mad about the test result changes for too long. Heather is also a common enemy.)

Curtis is fully aware she changed the test results. What she’s so terrified to tell him is that first Brad and now Drew, are blackmailing her in order to keep it from coming to light. I’m not sure how any of that is worse than the initial offense, but then I’m not on GH’s writing staff. 🤷‍♀️

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So. Now even Lucky is calling the kid Adela? St least he’s trying to talk sense into Kristina, which is more than anyone else has done. It won’t work, but I give him an A for effort. 

I know it’s a fake out but previews showing Jack telling Joss she’ll never be a WSB agent had me squealing lol!

so much for hoping Daniel Cosgrove’s character would be a Drew adversary. They seem to be two peas in a pod.

 

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On 3/18/2025 at 12:22 PM, Bringonthedrama said:

Did I hear correctly that off-screen Robin worked with WSB to save Carly's miserable life?

I call it now: Carly's going to say she went into cardiac arrest because she sensed that Jason had decided not to tell her something very important.

I was really waiting for lightning to strike Sonny, who has had one son critically wounded in childhood and adulthood, one son dead, a daughter nearly killed by a car bomb he set, and children kidnapped, for telling Valentin "you don't deserve to be a father."

BLQ, your husband doesn't want to go along with you keeping this secret because your reasoning sounds like bullshit to him just as much as it does to the audience. She wants to believe she is doing this to protect the adult child, but it sounds more like she doesn't want to wreck her friendship with Dante and have the family furious with/hurt by her and Lois. 

Telling Chase that she didn't tell Dante the truth as an adult because she realized he didn't have "lingering feelings" for her, makes this retconned secret even more gross. Her ego was hurt because he wasn't interested in sex with her a second time, so she resorted to trying to rape him while he was under the influence?!  (That's what I got out of her talk with Chase; he just doesn't know specifically that Lulu actually caught Brook Lynn in Dante's lap after she slipped something in his drink.)

Basically, she wanted $ from Carly, to have the ego trip of Dante wanting her, and to stick it to Lulu. Girl, you were not a teenager at the time as an excuse for bad behavior and that is not friendship.

If the situations were reversed and Dante was telling this story about withholding a very important truth from BLQ because she was not willing to cheat on her boyfriend with him, this would cause outrage.

Oh yeah, Sonny is a massive, hypocritical shitweasel.

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6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Ava's accountant told her it covered her mortgages for the month (or whatever) but she's still in dire financial straits.

Just how much are these mortgages anyway?

Nina is rich enough to buy Willow a house. (Doesn't anyone except Maxie rent?)  I'm sure Nina can lend Ava enough to cover a few more months.

This plot is so stupid.

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15 hours ago, dubbel zout said:
16 hours ago, absnow54 said:

I do love JJs “please confide in anyone but me” reactions though. 

"You need to talk to a mental health professional, not someone who won't use shampoo."

Is it the shampoo or the conditioner that really matters?  Looks like JJ could use both. Asking for a friend.

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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with JJ’s hair. It is what it is.

And I Covet the green sweater that Becky/Elizabeth was wearing! I want MORE of Lucky and Elizabeth! So of course I’ll be lucky (pardon the pun) if I get to see them more than once a week.

Kristina has been turned into Mooby-expecting everyone to be at her beck and call. I wish Lucky would quit and just start up his own PI business.

And I also want a horsie.

This plot about how Ava is now broke is beyond stupid. She was  a wealthy woman BEFORE she married Nik. I refuse to believe that her divorce settlement was what she needed to survive. It would make more sense if it turned out her accountant has been embezzling from her. But that would be logical and make sense story-wise and we can’t have that!

5 hours ago, ljr said:

She was married to Sonny. He killed her son’s father,

Cujo didn’t give any shits about AJ-she was more than happy at how Mooby forced AJ to give up his parental rights. She also set it up for him to think he’d fallen off the wagon.

The only way she would stop her involvement with Not!Brennan would be if Jason cuts her out of his life. Because she’s still pathetically in wuv with him. But that won’t happen because Cujo can’t be without a man.

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8 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with JJ’s hair. It is what it is.

I agree.  My son and I both have very fine hair that is dark brown.  It looks dirty very easily, no matter how clean it is. It's one of the reasons I get highlights regularly, because the lighter color doesn't look dirty like that.  My son has long hair, and even when it's freshly cleaned, it looks a lot like JJ's.  

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I'm going to need someone to knock the prima smug smirk off ShrewLu's entitled ass face. A chip off the old block of her equally rancid cousin Carly. I'm going to need someone to throw Georgie & GQ in her face. I want to see if Maxie extracts her head out of Lulu's ass & defends her sister or is she going to make excuses for Lulu's actions towards her sister🤔She's really nothing more than Lulu's glorified personal cheerleader. Sam wasn't even dead nor is her body that warm before she started with the Lulu and Dante shit.

Sam is her OG best friend but you couldn't tell by the gross indifference & callous malicious attitude she has towards her before she even went into surgery. She was chopping at the bits to run to Dante and tell him the truth about Lulu's feelings. Sam is risking her life to save Lulu so she can come home to her son & family. She's so flippant towards Sam, her sacrifice, Dante love and feelings for Sam. So Lulu can have her family back she thinks Sam stole🙄She comes across as fake 2 faced. The pure ugliness radiating from her soul in that moment reminded me of Cujo. Her dismissal of Dantes feelings, real love for Sam to his face last week was disgusting. She kept asserting that Sam didn't mean nothing to him, he was just waiting on Lulu to wake up, that he was settling cause he couldn't have ShrewLu. Dante isn't her, he doesn't rewrite his history, doesn't need to dismiss what he shared with Sam, just cause Lulu is alive. He doesn't need to act like he spent 8 years settling like she said she did with her husband, love of their life cause they couldn't have some hermit like she said which is a lie & foul. Which only damages her. If Lulu and Dante love is that strong, that great their would be no need to spit on what Sante had rather you like them or not. She acts like Dante is Lulu's personal property, her toy she doesn't have to share with others. Yeah Lulu is her bestie but Dante doesn't exist to just blow smoke up her ass & not allowed to love anyone but her. It's gross, heavy handed, insulting.

Reminds me of Cujo telling Sam after Jake died wasn't even in the ground, to give Jason a baby to replace Jake his son cause in her sick obsessed mind kids are toys & interchangeable. They wonder why this show is dying, failing in the ratings they have no respect for the audience or history. See Scummy killing the FBI agent, Destruction of Anna & Laura. Their relationship with the murdering town mobster & his hitman. This Gio, Brooklyn was pregnant had a baby with Dante, Summer Camp with Cody shit, Sasha R/H, Cody, Mac/Dominique. If you can't trust something you saw with your own eyes, that you're being openly gaslighted by the show? Then how can you trust anything that is written, cannon? That it can be rewritten changed on a dime to prop up some EP pets? What's the point in investing where nothing matters & history can be shitted on in a dime. Once that trust is broken, betrayed it's very hard to get back. Sorry I went off all tangent 

Anyways only someone as entitled as Lulu would think cause someone is her uncle that it gives her the right to break into his hotel room, go through his personal, sensitive information of his clients in her fishing expedition for information on her awful spawn & think she is in the right, doesn't have to face consequences for it. The audacity 

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3 hours ago, Nique said:

I want to see if Maxie extracts her head out of Lulu's ass & defends her sister or is she going to make excuses for Lulu's actions towards her sister🤔She's really nothing more than Lulu's glorified personal cheerleader. Sam wasn't even dead nor is her body that warm before she started with the Lulu and Dante shit.

Sam is her OG best friend but you couldn't tell by the gross indifference & callous malicious attitude she has towards her before she even went into surgery. She was chopping at the bits to run to Dante and tell him the truth about Lulu's feelings. Sam is risking her life to save Lulu so she can come home to her son & family. She's so flippant towards Sam, her sacrifice, Dante love and feelings for Sam. So Lulu can have her family back she thinks Sam stole🙄She comes across as fake 2 faced. The pure ugliness radiating from her soul in that moment reminded me of Cujo. Her dismissal of Dantes feelings, real love for Sam to his face last week was disgusting.

Maybe I missed something - when were Sam and Maxie best friends? I remember them bonding over their dislike/jealousy of Elizabeth back when young Maxie wanted GV's Lucky to leave Elizabeth for her and Sam resented the long-time friendship/attraction between Elizabeth and Jason. They've also had a bond through their relationships with Spinelli and Jason and I remember Sam showed up for support once after Nathan was killed, but I don't recall them having a consistent friendship separate from the men in their lives.

I don't think this (adult version) of Maxie would bring up Georgie. Her sister has been deceased for a long time now and she got married as a teenager because she was ill, expecting to die.  That's not really comparable to adult relationships/marriages with children involved. 

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30 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I don't think this (adult version) of Maxie would bring up Georgie. Her sister has been deceased for a long time now and she got married as a teenager because she was ill, expecting to die.  That's not really comparable to adult relationships/marriages with children involved

Yeah and Lulu and Maxie have been best friends for years now. They've long since moved past what happened when they were in their teens/early twenties. Maybe if they had a falling out, that could happen. 

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