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Episode Discussion II: The TFGH


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11 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

So, what, in another 20 years, will Jason be pretending to be the father of Wiley's affair baby?  

Yep.

9 hours ago, boes said:

I still don't understand how anyone could think Jason fathered Sasha's child, or any child, for that matter. 

It comes down to everyone knowing Jason doesn't lie, so if he doesn't say otherwise, it must be true. The people of Port Charles are deeply stupid.

30 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Why doesn't Sasha just say she got pregnant from a one-night stand with a rando? The best lies are the ones closest to the truth, and that's true except for the "rando" part. Maybe it's a little embarrassing to say "yeah, I didn't actually catch his name," but personally, I would find it a lot more embarrassing to say I banged my ex-boyfriend's 60 year-old hitman uncle.

I don't get this either. Jason being the putative father doesn't exactly enhance Sasha's reputation, so she might just say it was an ill-advised ONS with a random. The number of people who are deeply invested in who the baby's father is is creepy. If Sasha wants to put a stop to it, she should give a more definitive answer than MYOB.

Re the Joss apology to Cyrus: I like how he looked back into Kelly's after leaving, as if to see what Joss does next. I am worried he will think it's real, which would be OOC. He's not supposed to be that stupid, even if it's Joss and she's not only a Carly but also a budding WSB agent. (I can't even write that last bit without collapsing into laughter. This is the young woman who had to be told that text messages leave a digital trail.)

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6 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

But Sasha isn't shutting the Jason rumor down, so she loses that initial credit, IMO.

“Jason is not the father.”

“Then who is?”

”A ONS, random guy I met at a bar.”

Then it’s smooth sailing until the baby has some rare medical disorder that requires a familial donor and none of the Scorpios are a match. 

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1 hour ago, Daisy said:

So Sasha's big. plan to "protect her baby." is to bleat to everyone that Jason WHO IS A HITMAN FOR THE CORINTHOS FAMILY AND IS A QUATERMAINE is the father of said baby?

Well, she's an idiot, but I wonder if her suddenly telling Jason he has to say the kid is his is to now protect Michael from the Evil!Willow using his infidelity against him in what is sure to be the next eyerollingly badly written custody case.

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12 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

I hate to ever be on Carly's side, but after today's Carly/Nina scenes, where Nina was laying it on so thick to manipulate Carly into helping her get Willow away from Drew, once the truth comes out about Nina and Drew having sex, I fully support Carly tearing into her. Nina has the ammunition to bust that pairing up, but she refuses to use it. Yes, her relationship with Willow will take a hit, but if she's the one who tells Willow, she has the chance to spin it as best she can. If it comes out because she and Carly do split Willow and Drew up, and Drew decides to go scorched earth, it will be way worse for Nina. (And she should be able to figure out that the odds are that Drew will spill it if he thinks he's lost Willow due to Nina's influence).  Her standing there asking Carly "are you willing to do whatever it takes?" is so hypocritical, when she's not "willing to do whatever it takes."  

Honestly, this whole thing is so dumb. But I guess we need another round of Nina being yelled at shunned. That's the only reason the writers refuse to have Nina tell Willow anything about sleeping with Drew.

Plus if we count on Willow dumping Drew because he was sleeping with her mother, then I guess dragging the smarmy and domineering relationship with Drew will end too quickly and let's face it, the writers have no idea what to do with Drewfus.

I can't with Kristina. Girl, you need to be in a padded room. 

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1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

I know soap characters make ridiculous choices all the time. But if the ONLY reason a character does something absurd is "so this story will work," you (as the writers) need to rethink. Find a plausible motivation for your characters to do what they do, and if you can't, then the story doesn't work and you need to scrap it.

Why doesn't Sasha just say she got pregnant from a one-night stand with a rando? The best lies are the ones closest to the truth, and that's true except for the "rando" part. Maybe it's a little embarrassing to say "yeah, I didn't actually catch his name," but personally, I would find it a lot more embarrassing to say I banged my ex-boyfriend's 60 year-old hitman uncle.

OMG so much more embarrassing!  Most people have had one night stands, but almost nobody has banged their ex-boyfriend's 60 yo hitman uncle!

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Lucky's having a not-so-great day, between jealousy from finding out from his boss that Elizabeth was out on a walk with Ric and then his favorite murdering uncle deliberately showing up in his workplace.

Danny is short-sighted and reckless, definitely reminding me of his mother.

So Jason was going to tell Danny that he's not getting another sibling but will probably change his mind now that Danny couldn't keep an important secret with Rocco.

Stupid plot device though, as I don't believe Danny would stop mid-rant to check one single photo alert that Kai and Emma had posted. 

"Drew would never treat me the way Jason treats Sasha - Drew loves me" "Drew wouldn't lie to me" - Willow sounds like a naive cult member. I hope Nina doesn't get interrupted while telling her truth.

So close. So so close to Lucky  being the one to save Danny from Cyrus. But then Big Bad hitman Jason has to appear.

Danny follows Kai on social media? Yeah, sure.

I used to like Kristina but wow, these writers have ruined her. Definitely unhinged. Lexi should be happy that she's away from this mess.

Why is Martin calling his nephew "Mr. Spencer"? It's bad enough that Liz and Isaiah are "Dr. Gannon", "Nurse Baldwin"ing each other.

"That pesky environmental review."  That's how you know that Sidwell is a villain, for those who haven't picked up on it yet.

14 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

 Nina has the ammunition to bust that pairing up, but she refuses to use it.

Willow is such a ninny, I don't think that it will matter to her. She'll say that Drew was just passing time with Nina because Willow was with Michael then.

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Well, she's an idiot, but I wonder if her suddenly telling Jason he has to say the kid is his is to now protect Michael from the Evil!Willow using his infidelity against him in what is sure to be the next eyerollingly badly written custody case.

Did you have a sneak preview of the episode?  Because you nailed it.

8 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Lucky's having a not-so-great day, between jealousy from finding out from his boss that Elizabeth was out on a walk with Ric and then his favorite murdering uncle deliberately showing up in his workplace.

WTH!?!? Cyrus went to Kelly's/Bobbie's on his way to work AND stopped by Charlie's and still hasn't shown up for his shift at the PC Grill? 

I hope he shows up at the Floating Rib next, how many stops will he make before work

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