Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Noneofyourbusiness]

7 hours ago, ciarra said:

Why they do important stuff offscreen, I don't know.

In this case it made sense, because it was supposed to be surprising that Ric knew.

3 hours ago, nilyank said:

Diane has always known about Michael and Sasha and the baby. 

No. She asked him months ago, before the firebomb, if there was anything else she should know that would impact the divorce case, and he thought about Sasha and didn't tell her.

[nilyank]

42 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

No. She asked him months ago, before the firebomb, if there was anything else she should know that would impact the divorce case, and he thought about Sasha and didn't tell her.

Michael didn't tell her then but Jason told her when he found out.

 

Edited June 5 by nilyank

[boes]

5 hours ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

I'm starting to wonder if it's a wig.

Sometimes she gives me Cousin It vibes with that hair.

Edited June 5 by boes

[ulkis]

Well gee Lulu can't believe Brook Lynn thinks the worst of her motives when she tells her almost every time they meet how horrible she thinks Brook Lynn is and also says it anytime she comes up in conversation.

That said someone tell Brook Lynn her son is at the pool knocking people into pools by gently touching them with a towels, his life is hardly destroyed, so she should put on her best wetsuit and raincoat and head on over there.

(Also what is with GH acting like towels are deadly weapons? First Ned tripping over one so forcefully he knocked himself out and now Gio brushing the guy sends him flying.)

[YaddaYadda]

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

so she should put on her best wetsuit and raincoat and head on over there.

[GHScorpiosRule]

14 hours ago, Maelstrom said:

And why is everyone calling it a divorce hearing when it's been solely about custody of the children, and not division of the assets or whatever else?

Because this show is STOOPID. From everything I know, hearings on divorce are done separately from hearings on custody.

 

11 hours ago, lala2 said:

He accused Gio of giving Rocco alcohol and getting him drunk!

I don't think he did that. He did accuse, over the top, that Gio shouldn't have left Rocco in the boathouse alone to "sleep it off" instead of calling him or/and his mother. And why didn't he also keep an eye out for Rocco? All that stuff. Unless I missed it with all the over the top ranting, that he also accused him of getting Rocco drunk?

While I still detest the SLS, the new new recast can actually act, so I am not fast forwarding these stupid scenes. And Sasha is also another one who's fallen under the Corinthos spell. Ric was just doing his job. And he was very good at it, and didn't have the smugaroo that Diane had throughout. Sasha deserved every single bit of discomfort that caused her to blink like a deer in the headlights. And of COURSE, this "tough" direct causes her to go into labor.

It is so gross and uncomfortable that this NuNotMyEmma thinks trying to...what? Get the Creepy Dalton interested in her to fire Mini-Cujo and hire her instead as his research assistant? Will she go through all the way? And why is he hanging out at the pool, searching out his...students? Instead of women his own age?

Looks like they changed what Dalton is doing. First, when Not!JackBrennan was telling Vaughn Anna had to be stopped, because Dalton was working on some bio project or something-which I guess, does have the need for animal testing? Is now cold fusion? Then again, this is the show that gave us Mikkos Cassadine freezing the world, and Casey the Alien.

Frank, just STAHP with all the Robin name dropping if Kimberly isn't going to making a guest appearance.

16 hours ago, jqdeco said:

Lucky did not fall in love with Elizabeth right away. He had a major crush on her sister. It was Liz that fell for Lucky first.

I posted this very thing when Lucky first said this about Elizabeth. But Frank and his minions don't really care about canon that they weren't a part of making.

At least Elizabeth did tell Lucky that she also loved him. I we were deprived of their I love yous after she woke up from her accident, when Lucky tearfully told her that he loved her. Because Frank doesn't give a shit about Lucky. Which begs the question, why did he bring JJ back then?

There was a long period, which I've stated (and sorry to sound like a broken record here) when Lucky and Elizabeth were happily married, and there was no "dark place" or wanderlust or an inability to settle down. All that crap was written after Jake "died" and when JJ left then. As long as they're together, I'll be content.

[sashabear21]

Vaughn: "Don't worry, I know how to handle Devane." Good lord child, you're not skilled enough to hold Anna Devane's handbag even when the writing is shit for her, much less on a good day.  

 

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, sashabear21 said:

Vaughn: "Don't worry, I know how to handle Devane." Good lord child, you're not skilled enough to hold Anna Devane's handbag even when the writing is shit for her, much less on a good day.  

 

For Realzies. I may not love Anna as much as I used to, but please. And he's also not very subtle, either. Like even as a viewer, he looked so OBVIOUS he was watching Dalton.

Makes me wish for the Good Ole Days with Robert, Sean, Anna...

[Noneofyourbusiness]

8 hours ago, nilyank said:

Michael didn't tell her then but Jason told her when he found out.

 

Thanks, I missed that scene! If that's so, then Diane seemed kind of unprepared and not worried enough about Sasha being called as a witness.

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I don't think he did that. He did accuse, over the top, that Gio shouldn't have left Rocco in the boathouse alone to "sleep it off" instead of calling him or/and his mother. And why didn't he also keep an eye out for Rocco? All that stuff. Unless I missed it with all the over the top ranting, that he also accused him of getting Rocco drunk?

Dante did originally accuse Gio of bringing Rocco to the party and giving him the alcohol, and having him "sleep it off" instead of going to the hospital to cover up what he'd done, and accused him of lying when he denied it. After Danny and Rocco told him what happened, he stopped harping on about that part, but kept denouncing Gio bringing Rocco to the boathouse instead of calling an ambulance.

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

UCG: Drew's Scooby Doo 'zoinks' face at the Sasha/Michael reveal.

Moments like these keep me going with this story.

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

(Also what is with GH acting like towels are deadly weapons? First Ned tripping over one so forcefully he knocked himself out and now Gio brushing the guy sends him flying.)

Tedious answer to a likely rhetorical question: I think it's because the pool is so shallow IRL that they can't risk someone actually being pushed into it, no matter how gently. The towel is inert, so it lets the actor/stunt double control things more.

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And of COURSE, this "tough" direct causes her to go into labor.

No doubt this will force Michael to step up and "claim" his baby. Ugh.

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

As long as [Lucky and Elizabeth are] together, I'll be content.

Not me. I don't like how Lucky is using Elizabeth to anchor him to PC. Lucky needs to feel that separately, and then decide he wants to marry her. I really hope they have Elizabeth hold her ground and not marry Lucky any time soon. He still can't see that he's holding on to their relationship in the past, not what they are now. It's not surprising, given how long he's been away, but it's a problem nonetheless. And it's a problem for Lucky to figure out before he makes major life decisions.

[Maelstrom]

12 hours ago, ciarra said:

I think they couldn't come up with a good reason for Spencer to return as a violin virtuoso.   "Spencer was hit on the head, and now he can play Puccini!"

😆 I’d happily take that over yet another Corinthos Custody Battle (TM), and BabeLu The Heroine Who Can Do No Wrong 🙄🙄

He went to fancy boarding schools, so why not retcon that he used to take violin lessons and has taken it back up. It’d be a much more believable and less offensive rewrite than their usual crap.

[sashabear21]

Getting hit on the head and becoming a violin virtuoso wouldn't be as far-fetched as drinking LSD laced tea and becoming psychic. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Not me. I don't like how Lucky is using Elizabeth to anchor him to PC. Lucky needs to feel that separately, and then decide he wants to marry her. I really hope they have Elizabeth hold her ground and not marry Lucky any time soon. He still can't see that he's holding on to their relationship in the past, not what they are now. It's not surprising, given how long he's been away, but it's a problem nonetheless. And it's a problem for Lucky to figure out before he makes major life decisions.

If JJ were back permanently, I'd be grousing as well, but I don't know how long he'll stay so I'll take what I can get before Frank Fucks it and further destroys Lucky's character. Because Frank is on a roll, with destroying characters he didn't create.

[dubbel zout]

Lucky is here, so I'm going to grouse. He's been badly used, definitely, but he's not the only one. I'll give JJ credit in that if he hates the story, it doesn't show. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

10 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Lucky is here, so I'm going to grouse. He's been badly used, definitely, but he's not the only one. I'll give JJ credit in that if he hates the story, it doesn't show. 

I'm banking on that he does hate it. He's that good and professional. Someone mentioned up thread how he told Frank he wanted Lucky to reunite with Elizabeth and Frank didn't like that. I think it was @jsbt? And I think that's why he's being used so shabbily.

[luna1122again]

14 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Lucky is here, so I'm going to grouse. He's been badly used, definitely, but he's not the only one. I'll give JJ credit in that if he hates the story, it doesn't show. 

He's so pretty, and so good. Despite the bewildering lack of storyline (have he and Elizabeth slept together again, since he's back? We've barely even gotten a kiss, wtf is that about?) for JJ even tho they probably paid good $$ to get him back, he still seems committed to giving it his all. Despite all the red flags, I'd have had a damned hard time saying no to him. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

6 minutes ago, luna1122again said:

We've barely even gotten a kiss, wtf is that about?

Because of some scheduling issues, Elizabeth and Lucky's first kiss was with that blandest of blanderer temporary recast that got stabbed by Cyrus.

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Lucky is here, so I'm going to grouse. He's been badly used, definitely, but he's not the only one. I'll give JJ credit in that if he hates the story, it doesn't show. 

They brought him back without a plan, or an idea of a storyline.

I know. It's shocking that coming from these guys. It's not something we're used to at all.

[ciarra]

Big proposal, gazebo setting.   Lucky, couldn't you at least shampoo?

[dubbel zout]

9 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

They brought him back without a plan, or an idea of a storyline.

I know. It's shocking that coming from these guys. It's not something we're used to at all.

It's so aggravating. I'm supposed to be so glad to see JJ that I ignore how terrible Lucky's story is. Ugh.

Edited June 5 by dubbel zout

[PatsyandEddie]

Well, my theory of a daydream has been shot to hell 🤪

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Well, my theory of a daydream has been shot to hell 🤪

Well, we saw her begin her breathing heavily at the end yesterday, so...

The question is: will she birth the spawn while in the witness chair?

[statsgirl]

5 hours ago, ulkis said:

That said someone tell Brook Lynn her son is at the pool knocking people into pools by gently touching them with a towels, his life is hardly destroyed, so she should put on her best wetsuit and raincoat and head on over there.

I hope it has rhinestones for that extra sparkle.

[Cheyanne11]

LOL, I just saw a clip that Willow is delivering the baby in the court room.  Babies sure do come fast in old PC.

[dubbel zout]

Portia's neck roll when Trina said Drew should bother someone else now was hilarious. I also liked Curtis's expression: "We'll see, lady."

I LOVE Maxie's hair. That sleek bob works so well on her.

Oh, look. Noted Bigot Natalia is back, to no one's interest. She was wearing a great dress, though. Wardrobe does a good job in the summer with the women.

Good grief, we're parsing kisses in the stupid custody battle? STAHP.

[Daisy]

Sasha: we thought our one night stand was no one else's business. 
Say with me One Rule For Thee, One Rule For Me.

sigh
another useless baby for another useless character. 

[statsgirl]

Well that baby came faster than anything on Call The Midwife, and that baby looks like it's six months old.. Michael holding Sasha while Willow helps her have the baby is a little too Handmaid's Tale.

Is Diane really arguing that because Willow kissed Drew twice, Michael was justified in cheating with Sasha? And how does Michael plan to juggle his three children from three different mothers if he has sole custody of the first two?

Liz turns down Lucky's proposal saying that he would not be happy staying in Port Charles. I guess JJ is leaving again.

I could not figure out who the second person working at the hospital with Stella and unable to attend lunch. Oh, right, the invisible T.J.

Marco, you told your mother "This is my friend." No wonder she didn't start to fawn all over Lucas, he could have been a work friend.

6 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

the Creepy Dalton interested in her to fire Mini-Cujo and hire her instead as his research assistant? Will she go through all the way? And why is he hanging out at the pool, searching out his...students? Instead of women his own age?

Dalton had an appointment to meet with Sidwell beside the pool (!). Joss read it on his calendar so she donned a bikini to waylay him.

I don't like NuEmma trying to honey pot Dalton but it's very like Original Anna.

And lol that Anna figured out what Brennan is up to and manipulated Jason into doing the follow-up. Of course he is only interested in helping because Carly's spawn is involved.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

No doubt this will force Michael Carly to step up and "claim" his baby. Ugh.

Fixed that for you.

[Noneofyourbusiness]

I had been thinking Brennan would have been smarter just to bring Anna onboard with his investigation if he doesn't want her treading on their toes, but it turns out Anna could see that the WSB must be investigating Dalton and she still wants to pursue it separately.

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

Well that baby came faster than anything on Call The Midwife, and that baby looks like it's six months old.

I was saying they should call the midwife when they couldn't get Sasha to a hospital in time. One of my and my family's favorite shows.

[pinkandsparkly13]

10 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

LOL, I just saw a clip that Willow is delivering the baby in the court room.  Babies sure do come fast in old PC.

Lol good God, I figured that would happen. It's always impossible to get to the hospital in time 🙄🥴

[statsgirl]

2 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

I had been thinking Brennan would have been smarter just to bring Anna onboard with his investigation if he doesn't want her treading on their toes, but it turns out Anna could see that the WSB must be investigating Dalton and she still wants to pursue it separately.

Brennan doesn't want Dalton stopped, unlike Emma, he wants Dalton to finish the research and then steal it for the WSB. Cuz that's not creepy at all.

And there stands Joss, convinced that the WSB are the good guys.

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

will she birth the spawn while in the witness chair?

Nope.  On the floor beside the witness chair!!

16 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I guess JJ is leaving again.

His contract is up in August and he's out.  

17 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I could not figure out who the second person working at the hospital with Stella and unable to attend lunch. Oh, right, the invisible T.J.

Why pretend that TJ is still in town, working at the same hospital and we never see him.  If you're going throw a line out, why not just say that TJ couldn't make it because he's still settling into his job at <insert name of town not Port Charles here>

14 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

It's always impossible to get to the hospital in time

Well apparently there was a protest for the Sonny referendum blocking the front of the courthouse!!

What do we think Giant Newborn Baby Girl Corbin Corinthos' name will be?  

Michelle

Brenda/Brandona

Liamilla

Sonnetta

Roberta

Carolina

 

[JMO]

What a waste of a character return.  Lucky has barely been on screen at all, let alone with the love of his life.  No rebuilding his connection with his son, nor his mother, nor his once-comatose sister and her two children.  And definitely no real work at rekindling his romance with Liz.  I'm glad they've decided to call it.  I don't know if it was the writing or JJ's availability at fault, but what a mess.

But the setting for their dinner was lovely. 

I love Maxie and her semi-perfect romance-meddling skills.  KS looked beautiful today, and especially her hair, which can be hit-or-miss for me.

Sasha gave birth to a two month old. I can only imagine what would have happened if the pregnancy had gone to term.

 

[Daisy]

10 minutes ago, Perkie said:

What do we think Giant Newborn Baby Girl Corbin Corinthos' name will be?  

 

 

they're going to name it Monica/Leslie and I'll be pissed the heck off

 

11 minutes ago, Perkie said:

His contract is up in August and he's out.  h

honestly, so pissed off that they fired Greg Vaughan for JJ.  like honestly, just kill Lucky off (so we know he never comes back) or freaking recast him and tell JJ sorry, we like you but we need the character and you're not dependable. 

[tessaray]

At least they gave Elizabeth and Lucky an adult conversation about who they are at this point in their lives. I suppose this means they'll soon be queuing up a triangle with Ava and Ric for Elizabeth.

Marshall wasn't too annoying. Hopefully this is a very brief visit.

Maxie was looking great but boots around the pool? Do people wear them in summer?

I was shocked that Nina was Ric's source. But I had to laugh that Carly retaliated by exposing Nina's involvement in dosing Drew with the ketamine. Conveniently leaving out her own involvement post-incident approval. 

Edited June 5 by tessaray

[Cheyanne11]

7 minutes ago, tessaray said:

But I had to laugh that Carly retaliated by exposing Nina's involvement in dosing Drew with the ketamine. Conveniently leaving out her own involvement. 

She does realize that now that the Drew scandal was in fact a proven set-up it doesn't bode well for Michael's case, right?  

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, Perkie said:

His contract is up in August and he's out.  

Bringing him back was a total waste of time.

I wonder if Willow helping deliver spawn #3 will make it that she and Michael will just decide on shared custody and we'll be spared. 

Nina is dumb for thinking that Ric wouldn't put Sasha and the paternity of her child on the spot.

And Carly is a straight up bitch and so irredeemably stupid in her vindictiveness. 

But it's on par for these two. I'm stupid to expect anything different, but here we are.

Edited June 5 by YaddaYadda

[statsgirl]

Carly to Drew:  "I have proof that Nina set up that you were drugged with ketamine."  No Carly, unless you have the vial or video proof, what you have is hearsay.

Just now, Cheyanne11 said:

She does realize that now that the Drew scandal was in fact a proven set-up it doesn't bode well for Michael's case, right?  

This is Carly. She may tell Lulu to think of the consequences of her actions but Carly herself never goes beyond the impetus.

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, Perkie said:

19 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I guess JJ is leaving again.

His contract is up in August and he's out.  

I don't blame him, but I'm irritated at what a waste his return turned out to be. It was mishandled from day one.

2 minutes ago, tessaray said:

At least they gave Elizabeth and Lucky an adult conversation about who they are at this point in their lives. I suppose this means they'll soon be queuing up a triangle with Ava and Ric for Elizabeth.

I'm a bit surprised Elizabeth and Lucky were able to have that conversation. If she's going to draw a line under a relationship with Lucky, she needs to do the same with Ric. They are also not viable together.

Wow, darkness fell as quickly as Sasha's baby was born.

[Daisy]

6 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

She does realize that now that the Drew scandal was in fact a proven set-up it doesn't bode well for Michael's case, right?  

that would assume Carly thinks. 

[tessaray]

25 minutes ago, Daisy said:

honestly, so pissed off that they fired Greg Vaughan for JJ.  like honestly, just kill Lucky off (so we know he never comes back) or freaking recast him and tell JJ sorry, we like you but we need the character and you're not dependable. 

I would have preferred a recast to the lame story we've gotten so far. But if they can't write for the character, it's kinda moot. 

What I am irritated about is losing Finn for this mess. 

Eta: I'd love it if they fired Portia as Co-COS and hire Finn as her replacement. 

Edited June 5 by tessaray

[boes]

27 minutes ago, JMO said:

Sasha gave birth to a two month old. I can only imagine what would have happened if the pregnancy had gone to term.

Edited June 5 by boes

[PatsyandEddie]

I’m so sad that JJ is leaving. I missed a lot of their early years because of life but I adored them as soon as I saw them this time around .

They are so natural together with off the chart chemistry. 
 

Liz doesn’t need Ric in her life. 

[Tartlet]

The show won’t go there. But, I would love them to name the new baby, Alana Justine Quartemaine.  A new AJ Quartermaine to piss off Sonny & Carly. 

[Noneofyourbusiness]

47 minutes ago, tessaray said:

But I had to laugh that Carly retaliated by exposing Nina's involvement in dosing Drew with the ketamine. Conveniently leaving out her own involvement. 

She wasn't involved in dosing Drew, that was Nina and Portia's idea. Carly just congratulated Nina for it afterward, figuring she had to be behind it since they'd discussed the need to take down Drew. Then Nina said it was ketamine, and Carly told her she should have used something that leaves the system faster.

Edited June 5 by Noneofyourbusiness

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, Tartlet said:

The show won’t go there. But, I would love them to name the new baby, Alana Justine Quartemaine.  A new AJ Quartermaine to piss off Sonny & Carly. 

Michael is a weinie and bows down to Sonny and Carly, so "Michelle Caroline" is more likely.

[tessaray]

1 minute ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:

She wasn't involved in dosing Drew, that was Nina and Portia's idea. Carly just congratulated Nina for it afterward, figuring she had to be behind it since they'd discussed the need to take down Drew.

You're right. I forgot that Carly just figured it out because she knew who Jacinda was. 

[sacrebleu]

And to top it all off, Carly referred to the kid as Michael's baby. With the secret out, is Sasha's no Q or Corinthos involvement policy gonna start custody battles on two fronts ( I wouldn't put it past this show) 

Any bets on how soon Jason finds out Joss is an undercover WSB agent? 

[Cheyanne11]

5 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

And to top it all off, Carly referred to the kid as Michael's baby. With the secret out, is Sasha's no Q or Corinthos involvement policy gonna start custody battles on two fronts ( I wouldn't put it past this show) 

Any bets on how soon Jason finds out Joss is an undercover WSB agent? 

I mean, they're IN the court room already--Diane might as well just amend the custody battle to include the new kid.

[Daisy]

6 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I mean, they're IN the court room already--Diane might as well just amend the custody battle to include the new kid.

save everyone the time and trouble

[KittenPokerCheater]

7 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I mean, they're IN the court room already--Diane might as well just amend the custody battle to include the new kid.

I would love to see that happen

Having Lucky/JJ back has been such a waste of time.  I'm very disappointed.  I hope the character never comes back.