Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Tikichick]

13 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

That makes it worse, lol.

This is disturbing since she has 2 small children in her care. Hello, CPS? 😳

They certainly are prompt, efficient -- and prolific when it comes to providing plenty of SM posts that a CPS investigator could present to show reasonable cause of improper care and supervision.   

[Heathen]

20 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Carlin has said repeatedly that doctors "don't do anything." She seems to be vehemently anti doctor, especially now that she hates her meds.

Carlin saying that doctors "don't do anything" reminds me of the people I know IRL who are out for attention. Factitious disorder people. 

[Notabug]

20 hours ago, Tikichick said:

How much do they charge for these dresses?   Seems like clothing manufactured in the U.S. would come at a premium, otherwise how would they afford the labor?

Even though the manufacturers are 'from California' according to Evan; that doesn't mean the clothes are made there or anywhere in the US.  Foreign manufacturers usually have sales reps/vendors based here in the US to meet with clients and handle the details of importing the goods.  The clothing that the Bates' girls carry looks like the typical cheap Chinese stuff that you see online all the time.

I would think that if they did carry clothing exclusively manufactured in the US, they would be bragging about it all the time.  It would be a major selling point for many customers.

[Notabug]

54 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Carlin saying that doctors "don't do anything" reminds me of the people I know IRL who are out for attention. Factitious disorder people. 

What she means to say is, 'they don't do the things I want them to do'.  Like multiple MRI's or other testing to give her photo ops and clicks and make her feel special.  If you've followed the story, Carlin has had a lot of testing, a lot of really expensive evaluation and consultations with specialists.  More than most young, supposedly healthy people would have over such a short period of time.

I think Carlin is mainly upset that the doctors haven't diagnosed her with some major medical issue that she can use for sympathy and clicks.  And, maybe, in telling her that they haven't found any serious medical issue, they have pointed out her ridiculous lifestyle and how that may have significantly contributed to her symptoms.  I don't think Baby Girl would take well to someone suggesting that she get more rest, eat a healthier diet and stop running around the countryside to every goat roping and she would feel better.  They might've also pointed out her rather histrionic personality which tends to lend itself to these sorts of things.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Even though the manufacturers are 'from California' according to Evan; that doesn't mean the clothes are made there or anywhere in the US.  Foreign manufacturers usually have sales reps/vendors based here in the US to meet with clients and handle the details of importing the goods.  The clothing that the Bates' girls carry looks like the typical cheap Chinese stuff that you see online all the time.

I would think that if they did carry clothing exclusively manufactured in the US, they would be bragging about it all the time.  It would be a major selling point for many customers.

They could choose to use American designers and manufacturers, but they don’t. Sounds like Evan is just obfuscating again in an attempt to make them look better. America first, right Evan?

[Notabug]

6 hours ago, Tikichick said:

They certainly are prompt, efficient -- and prolific when it comes to providing plenty of SM posts that a CPS investigator could present to show reasonable cause of improper care and supervision.   

CPS has so many really horrific situations to deal with involving kids that it is highly unlikely that they would think there was any need for intervention in this case.  The kids are fed and clothed and have decent living conditions.  Carlin hasn't actually fallen while carrying one of the kids, the kids have not suffered any physical injuries due to her episodes.  There are not enough resources out there to take care of the kids in really abusive situations, CPS is not coming after Carlin and Evan.

[lookeyloo]

23 minutes ago, Notabug said:

CPS has so many really horrific situations to deal with involving kids that it is highly unlikely that they would think there was any need for intervention in this case.  The kids are fed and clothed and have decent living conditions.  Carlin hasn't actually fallen while carrying one of the kids, the kids have not suffered any physical injuries due to her episodes.  There are not enough resources out there to take care of the kids in really abusive situations, CPS is not coming after Carlin and Evan.

I was trying to come up with words to say just this, so thanks.  CPS everywhere is overwhelmed, underfunded and understaffed.  There are horrific cases out there of true neglect and abuse.  And not enough resources to do what is needed.  

[Cinnabon]

32 minutes ago, Notabug said:

CPS has so many really horrific situations to deal with involving kids that it is highly unlikely that they would think there was any need for intervention in this case.  The kids are fed and clothed and have decent living conditions.  Carlin hasn't actually fallen while carrying one of the kids, the kids have not suffered any physical injuries due to her episodes.  There are not enough resources out there to take care of the kids in really abusive situations, CPS is not coming after Carlin and Evan.

Not at this time, but if one of her kids needed treatment for a potentially serious disorder and she failed to get it for them stating that “doctors don’t do anything,” she might be reported to CPS by social workers. I worked as a pediatric social worker, and had to report parents who refused to stop smoking inside the house (their child had asthma) and weren’t reliable about bringing him in for followup visits. 

[Tikichick]

43 minutes ago, Notabug said:

CPS has so many really horrific situations to deal with involving kids that it is highly unlikely that they would think there was any need for intervention in this case.  The kids are fed and clothed and have decent living conditions.  Carlin hasn't actually fallen while carrying one of the kids, the kids have not suffered any physical injuries due to her episodes.  There are not enough resources out there to take care of the kids in really abusive situations, CPS is not coming after Carlin and Evan.

Fortunately that is the case so far.    I didn't suggest CPS was about to bust in their door.   My choice of wording regarding improper care and supervision was purposeful  These two are one misstep away from an investigator paying them a visit at the rate they're going.  They've put an awful lot of info. out there that would not cut in their favor.

I'm not unfamiliar with CPS and what they do.   In fact most children who come to the attention of CPS and the courts are not victims of abuse as is generally assumed.  Most children in the system require intervention for chronic neglect, which includes improper care and supervision.   

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, Heathen said:

Carlin saying that doctors "don't do anything" reminds me of the people I know IRL who are out for attention. Factitious disorder people. 

Or the types who say "doctors don't know anything" because the medical community won't cater to their whims. Perfect example with Carlin was Lawson's wedding. One doctor told her not to travel, an E.R. doc said it was okay. She went with the latter's opinion because it aligned with what SHE wanted to do. Carlin will never acknowledge that her lifestyle choices are impeding her health. It's like somebody who needs to drop 50 lbs. eating McDonalds every day and then blaming their personal trainer because they can't lose weight. The doctors are only part of the equation. 

[GeeGolly]

C's latest story.

[ginger90]

She has a follow up today.

[3 is enough]

I hope she gets some answers or at least some guidance at her appointment today.

They have admittedly made some really stupid decisions lately, but I can't help but feel bad for them.  They are so young, scared, not the brightest bulbs in the box, and have been told from the time they have been old enough to understand that if they accepted Jesus as their Saviour He would answer their prayers.  Which obviously is not happening right now. On top of all their other worries they must be questioning their faith to some extent. 

I also wonder about how they feel about her family's lukewarm support right now.  Kelly went off to Florida even though Alyssa was just in Tennessee recently.  None of the other siblings seem to be helping or even offering a "thinking of you" on SM.  

I will say that they seem to be able to keep their sense of humour though.  Carlin's stories showed an inflatable helmet that Evan said she should get.

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

C's latest story.

She took a break from social media?  When?  For how long?  She seems to be posting pretty much as she usually does.

[Salacious Kitty]

7 minutes ago, Notabug said:

She took a break from social media?  When?  For how long?  She seems to be posting pretty much as she usually does.

Hey, she just had a minor concussion. She probably can't remember when she was last on SM! 

[cereality]

So they were/are at the dr filming each other. Carlin filming Evan as he fills out forms for her asking symptoms - can she not do that? While he jokes that he can’t wait to see the dr bc he’s his friend and the person Evan call and texts most right now. 🙄 And then Evan filming Carlin sitting in the chair for her blood draw. Do we need to see this?? No doubt it’s for their next YT but I don’t like being at my own drs appts let alone someone else’s?! Glad to see no one in Tenn masks even in medical settings as Carlin, Evan, and the nurse about to do the blood draw are all mask less . . . .

So now she needs to follow up w a cardiologist and then schedule a 5 day EEG in the hospital - even though the 2-3 day at home was all clear and in the previous slide that said they’ll re evaluate if she has more episodes in the next month?? Maybe the 5 day in hospital one is IF NEEDED? She’s vague booking - and saying “we did find out some things” but won’t say what those are, as she acts a bit bratty re “We have more follow ups how fun. I have low expectations, I won’t be disappointed.” They apparently did talk to them about how 2 concussions in a row could be dangerous. In at least some of the post Evan’s hand is on the back of her neck. But please follow this up by staying home a bit more - though who knows if the dr explicitly said that.

Edited July 21, 2022 by cereality

[ozziemom]

Egads could Carlin act more like a toddler??? It is hard to continue to feel sorry for her since it appears she can’t or won’t follow doctors instructions. Or even common sense. Based on how C&E acted when Layla was having health issues I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at how dumb they are. 

[GeeGolly]

Its like the three faces of Carlin - disheveled, sick Carlin 😷, spirited, well dressed, IG Carlin 💃🏽 and immature, pouty Carlin 😩.

Nothing in that IG story made any practical sense. This combination of stupidity, arrogance and vague-booking is very unbecoming.

[Heathen]

Last seizure concussion. That sounds as stupid as Carlin herself. 

[Peanut6711]

6 hours ago, cereality said:

So they were/are at the dr filming each other. Carlin filming Evan as he fills out forms for her asking symptoms - can she not do that? While he jokes that he can’t wait to see the dr bc he’s his friend and the person Evan call and texts most right now. 🙄 And then Evan filming Carlin sitting in the chair for her blood draw. Do we need to see this?? No doubt it’s for their next YT but I don’t like being at my own drs appts let alone someone else’s?! Glad to see no one in Tenn masks even in medical settings as Carlin, Evan, and the nurse about to do the blood draw are all mask less . . . .

The lack of masks in a medical facility with other vulnerable patients around is just utterly inconsiderate.  So is Evan's filming. I'm surprised the facility allows it.  Even my dentist office has a sign up that says no photography. 

[ginger90]

23 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

  So is Evan's filming. I'm surprised the facility allows it.  Even my dentist office has a sign up that says no photography. 

They were both filming. No surprise there.

[SMama]

I’m not defending Carlin’s ditziness but as someone else pointed out the Bates females are raised to keep sweet and barely educated. How can Carlin not know her father’s full name or her own social security number?

Carlin was also raised in a household where preventive health care was non existent. Gil boasted about using the ER when his family needed medical assistance. I seriously doubt they paid their ER bills. Carlin probably had insurance for the first time upon marrying Evan. Add to that that they are young, not very bright, no real experience with medical issues/terminology, and think God spends 24/7 shielding them from harm. That is a dangerous combination. Sadly, it will take a major medical event or long term ICU stay to wake them up. 

[Salacious Kitty]

12 minutes ago, SMama said:

I’m not defending Carlin’s ditziness but as someone else pointed out the Bates females are raised to keep sweet and barely educated. How can Carlin not know her father’s full name or her own social security number?

Carlin was also raised in a household where preventive health care was non existent. Gil boasted about using the ER when his family needed medical assistance. I seriously doubt they paid their ER bills. Carlin probably had insurance for the first time upon marrying Evan. Add to that that they are young, not very bright, no real experience with medical issues/terminology, and think God spends 24/7 shielding them from harm. That is a dangerous combination. Sadly, it will take a major medical event or long term ICU stay to wake them up. 

One would think her current medical issues would be sufficient to wake them up, but it doesn't appear to be, does it?

[So unbelievable]

3 hours ago, SMama said:

How can Carlin not know her father’s full name or her own social security number?

She said in a story once that her SSN was too many numbers to remember.  Sad how stupid she is.  

She talks out both sides of her mouth.  Says how thankful she is for all the medical staff then has a hissy fit when they tell her what needs to be done.  Little brat. 

[65mickey]

5 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

She talks out both sides of her mouth.  Says how thankful she is for all the medical staff then has a hissy fit when they tell her what needs to be done.  Little brat. 

When.did she have a hissy fit? 

[SheTV]

I just stumbled on Trace and Lydia's YouTube channel and they are posting videos of their "remodeling" of Carlin and Evan's former apartment, and they are low key DRAGGING Carlin and Evan about the condition of the place.  The worst was pointing out the mouse nest under the kitchen sink.  It was absolutely disgusting and had obviously been there quite a while.  Another bit shows one of the younger Bates girls and two of Lydia's younger sisters cleaning the absolutely filthy front door.  They don't come out and say C & E were bad housekeepers, but they are certainly showing it.  

[GeeGolly]

38 minutes ago, SheTV said:

I just stumbled on Trace and Lydia's YouTube channel and they are posting videos of their "remodeling" of Carlin and Evan's former apartment, and they are low key DRAGGING Carlin and Evan about the condition of the place.  The worst was pointing out the mouse nest under the kitchen sink.  It was absolutely disgusting and had obviously been there quite a while.  Another bit shows one of the younger Bates girls and two of Lydia's younger sisters cleaning the absolutely filthy front door.  They don't come out and say C & E were bad housekeepers, but they are certainly showing it.  

This gives a little peek - look at cross beams the green wall.

[cereality]

They are 24 and 27 and basically still living the college kid life - complete with fast food 5 days/wk; no cooking; letting the dishes pile up and doing them once a week; letting the garbage pile up and taking it out when it overflows; always having piles of laundry; apparently not dusting; back burnering health as much as possible. All perfectly fine as they are living out the youth they SHOULD have lived out at ages 18-22. Yet then they were living in mama's house and desperately looking for a spouse to make babies with ASAP - did not matter whether they were mentally ready or not. What's sad is that they're doing this with kids. Plenty of people have kids at 24 and 27 - even moreso in the south. By the time the kids come around, those parents have settled down and are cooking and cleaning some and keeping a decent home. They aren't acting like these two morons running from nails to hair to YT filming to staying up at their parents' homes until 2 am - with a newborn and toddler eating whatever, sleeping wherever etc.

What I don't get is they were leaving a sweet church friend's home, knowing that it would be taken by their brother. I realize they were in Nashville and had a lot on their plate but they aren't exactly hurting for money - could they not have had a cleaning service come in after they moved out to clean and thus leave it in decent shape for the landlord and new the renter? Are they not embarrassed that they live like this and now their sweet friend from church + their brother/fiance + any number of YT viewers know? Or do they assume it's fine bc everyone lives like them? I mean I do think G&K's house is a sty . . . . 

As for the hissy fit - IDK if I'd go so far as hissy fit - but there's this thing that Carlin does when she's trying to be sarcastic [IDK if she knows what that even is] that just comes off 1000% rude - as if her problems are the doctors' fault or the doctors are so dumb. That's how she was speaking when she left the dr. yesterday with mixed messaging of - they'll watch me for the next month to see how episodes go vs. I need to schedule a 5 day EEG in the hospital. Like if you're not happy with your care, you are free to go someplace else.

I wonder if part of it is that Carlin and family never got routine care. If Gil was taking kids to the ER, that's more of a situation where they give the kid antibiotics or whatever and they're on their way. Like I wonder if she didn't realize before this that there are situations where drs monitor you, you could back for testing often, based on that testing meds are started or changed etc. -- like it's a process in a way that the ER patching up a kid isn't. Like I really wonder if they've ever done any follow up appts w/ Layla and a cardiologist to confirm that hole in her heart is indeed closed or if it's more of a - well she seems fine, her primary didn't make a big fuss so we're good.

[Natalie68]

On 7/19/2022 at 3:31 PM, ginger90 said:

Screenshots from videos:

I am really bummed he didn't include pics of the drive home and walking her to the house 🙄

[Natalie68]

On 7/19/2022 at 5:54 PM, 65mickey said:

That picture of Carlin and Whitney sitting in front of piles of clothing that appear to be left over from the cash and carry sale look like rags waiting to be tossed unfortunately into a landfill. They really need to hire a few helpers to come in and sort through that mess. This doesn't look like a smart way to run a business. 

Perhaps Evan could do it.  He seems to do a shitty job watching over his wife who may or may not have actual issues so while he is sitting around, grab some of that shit!  This family seems pretty useless.  It is sorta concerning how many young folks in this family have health issues and are lacking in IQ.  Isn't a great endorsement for birthing a million.  Maybe Michael got all the smarts being one of the older ones.  Nathan, resembling a pork product, probably didn't get much.  Bless his heart.

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, SMama said:

I’m not defending Carlin’s ditziness but as someone else pointed out the Bates females are raised to keep sweet and barely educated. How can Carlin not know her father’s full name or her own social security number?

Carlin was also raised in a household where preventive health care was non existent. Gil boasted about using the ER when his family needed medical assistance. I seriously doubt they paid their ER bills. Carlin probably had insurance for the first time upon marrying Evan. Add to that that they are young, not very bright, no real experience with medical issues/terminology, and think God spends 24/7 shielding them from harm. That is a dangerous combination. Sadly, it will take a major medical event or long term ICU stay to wake them up. 

Wait, what????  

3 hours ago, SheTV said:

I just stumbled on Trace and Lydia's YouTube channel and they are posting videos of their "remodeling" of Carlin and Evan's former apartment, and they are low key DRAGGING Carlin and Evan about the condition of the place.  The worst was pointing out the mouse nest under the kitchen sink.  It was absolutely disgusting and had obviously been there quite a while.  Another bit shows one of the younger Bates girls and two of Lydia's younger sisters cleaning the absolutely filthy front door.  They don't come out and say C & E were bad housekeepers, but they are certainly showing it.  

GROSS!

[Cinnabon]

13 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

She said in a story once that her SSN was too many numbers to remember.  Sad how stupid she is.  

How fucking pathetic. Too stupid to have kids.

[Dehumidifier]

I think I only have my Social security number memorized because it was requested so often in college. I'm not sure it would be embedded if I hadn't gone to college.

[SheTV]

55 minutes ago, cereality said:

What I don't get is they were leaving a sweet church friend's home, knowing that it would be taken by their brother. I realize they were in Nashville and had a lot on their plate but they aren't exactly hurting for money - could they not have had a cleaning service come in after they moved out to clean and thus leave it in decent shape for the landlord and new the renter? Are they not embarrassed that they live like this and now their sweet friend from church + their brother/fiance + any number of YT viewers know? Or do they assume it's fine bc everyone lives like them? I mean I do think G&K's house is a sty . . . . 

Exactly!  While watching the videos, I was gobsmacked because they KNEW her brother was moving in right away, but they couldn't be bothered to clean/have it cleaned once they left.  Plus, the sweet church friend thing.  Leaving a rented house/apartment less than spotless is bad enough when it's a rando landlord, but to do that to a church buddy seems kinda, I don't know, un-Christian, no matter what season of life (blech) you're in.

[Cinnabon]

16 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

I think I only have my Social security number memorized because it was requested so often in college. I'm not sure it would be embedded if I hadn't gone to college.

I bet you know your father’s full name, though. 🤣

[Dehumidifier]

10 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I bet you know your father’s full name, though. 🤣

Easy. His whole family of 8 children didn't have middle names. I used to joke that they couldn't afford them.

[SMama]

Let me clarify the full name thing. Carlin didn’t know Gil is short for Gilvin, she was absolutely gobsmacked.

[Salacious Kitty]

23 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I bet you know your father’s full name, though. 🤣

Hell, *I* know Gil's full name (he's a Jr.).

[SMama]

4 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Hell, *I* know Gil's full name (he's a Jr.).

So she didn’t know her father’s first name either. WTAF. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Just now, SMama said:

So she didn’t know her father’s first name either. WTAF. 

Right? He's named for Papa Bill! 

[Cinnabon]

The stupid, it burns.

[Natalie68]

34 minutes ago, SMama said:

Let me clarify the full name thing. Carlin didn’t know Gil is short for Gilvin, she was absolutely gobsmacked.

What an idiot.  It doesn't speak well for her parents either.

[SMama]

Gil and Kelly were afforded a college education but the self righteous assholes denied their children at least a decent high school education. It’s a cult and all about control. They purposely bred idiots who are destined to breed idiots. Shameful.

[Natalie68]

14 minutes ago, SMama said:

Gil and Kelly were afforded a college education but the self righteous assholes denied their children at least a decent high school education. It’s a cult and all about control. They purposely bred idiots who are destined to breed idiots. Shameful.

I guess breeding idiots keeps them in the fold 🤷‍♂️

[65mickey]

1 hour ago, SheTV said:

Exactly!  While watching the videos, I was gobsmacked because they KNEW her brother was moving in right away, but they couldn't be bothered to clean/have it cleaned once they left.  Plus, the sweet church friend thing.  Leaving a rented house/apartment less than spotless is bad enough when it's a rando landlord, but to do that to a church buddy seems kinda, I don't know, un-Christian, no matter what season of life (blech) you're in.

It could very well be that Trace and  Lydia told  Carlin and Evan not to worry about cleaning the apartment. Just get their stuff out and they would clean it. They are doing more than cleaning they are painting and making repairs.  If Carlin were my sister and having serious health problems that's what I would have said. I know this is an unpopular opinion here but some siblings do help their siblings. 

[Cinnabon]

47 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

It could very well be that Trace and  Lydia told  Carlin and Evan not to worry about cleaning the apartment. Just get their stuff out and they would clean it. They are doing more than cleaning they are painting and making repairs.  If Carlin were my sister and having serious health problems that's what I would have said. I know this is an unpopular opinion here but some siblings do help their siblings. 

I think most us think most siblings help their siblings. Just not these sickening, selfish halfwits. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Cinnabon

[GeeGolly]

22 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

It could very well be that Trace and  Lydia told  Carlin and Evan not to worry about cleaning the apartment. Just get their stuff out and they would clean it. They are doing more than cleaning they are painting and making repairs.  If Carlin were my sister and having serious health problems that's what I would have said. I know this is an unpopular opinion here but some siblings do help their siblings. 

It would be great if Trace and Lydia told C&E not to worry about it. If they did they should say so, because they're kind of making C&E look bad. I mean mouse shit under the sink? That's pretty bad.

[65mickey]

38 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I mean mouse shit under the sink? That's pretty bad.

I agree!

[Tdoc72]

2 hours ago, SheTV said:

Exactly!  While watching the videos, I was gobsmacked because they KNEW her brother was moving in right away, but they couldn't be bothered to clean/have it cleaned once they left.  Plus, the sweet church friend thing.  Leaving a rented house/apartment less than spotless is bad enough when it's a rando landlord, but to do that to a church buddy seems kinda, I don't know, un-Christian, no matter what season of life (blech) you're in.

I agree the Stew crew left it dirty. But I’ve always thought that place looked like it was slapped together w/a piece of wood and some glue (by the owner, not C&E.) Not sure why, only they every time I see the many closets or cubby holes, it just looks weird to me. Like maybe they had a small house & divided it as cheaply as they could? 
I can’t wait to see how the bathroom turns out though. It was so tiny. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Tdoc72

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

It would be great if Trace and Lydia told C&E not to worry about it. If they did they should say so, because they're kind of making C&E look bad. I mean mouse shit under the sink? That's pretty bad.

Especially bad (and potentially dangerous) in a home with a toddler.