Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Heathen]

I have to wonder if toxic Kelly and Carlin turned Katie against her in-laws, and put a bug in her ear to leave New Jersey. My only other conclusion is that Katie may be even dumber than the average fundie. 

[cereality]

3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I think a lot of Josie's distance has to do with Kelton. I don't mean that to say he forbids her from hanging out with her family, but rather he's like "I have to be up early to run a business, I can't have people in my house til midnight on a Wednesday." It's going to be sad to watch Travis and Katie's evolution from responsible parents to dragging Hailey around at 10 pm so they can hang out at Top Golf with Carlin and Evan. 

 

Agreed. He has to be up early to get to his business, not to mention he is gone all day at least 5 days a week and seems like sometimes 5.5-6 days. Meaning unlike Evan and Trav, he isn't randomly hanging out with his kids at the pool at 11 am on a Tuesday. So I think they prioritize having family time when he isn't working -- i.e. evenings/weekends. I don't think he wants his time wasted by the party party Bates being around all the time. Not only does he dislike them (or at the very best has zero in common with Evan/Trav), when they're around woohooing, that's time that he can't be spending with his kids, cooking with his wife etc.

Even now J&K are on some beach vacation and seem perfectly happy to have family time together. J&K are cooking once the kids go to bed. Kelton was playing a board game with his daughters etc. Contrast to Carlin/Evan last year - "omg this is our FIRST vacation with our kids, just us, without your family or my family to help?? OMG it's like we have to be the parents?!" Uh?? Yeah doofus you became a parent when you made the honeymoon baby.

27 minutes ago, Heathen said:

I have to wonder if toxic Kelly and Carlin turned Katie against her in-laws, and put a bug in her ear to leave New Jersey. My only other conclusion is that Katie may be even dumber than the average fundie. 

It's def sad to see what Hailey could have had in NJ vs what she'll have in Tennessee. In NJ she had grandparents who doted on her, and frankly Trav's brother and SIL did too [I assume his sister/BIL did too but we saw less of them]. Here she gets grannie who stops by for a photo opp and Aunt Carlin who is just there to woohoo but that's about it. And being around a family that is more "traditional," she for a year had parents who were VERY attentive to her needs. Always heading back to the house when it was her nap time. Not allowing her to snatch their sodas or CFA. Trav telling Evan - sorry bro this trip is gonna be lowkey, we aren't running off to NYC to entertain you.

But now being surrounded by the Bates + having an easily influenced wife, of course the Bates way of rearing kids is going to take center stage. When Whit invites her and Carlin to eat the Bates Kitchen food (which she's already done a few times), no way is Katie gonna say - uh you know we're gonna bail, Hailey still naps in the afternoon or sorry we start doing bedtimes at 7 pm so we can't make dinner. Nope it'll be much more of Hailey sleeping wherever, eating whatever.

I def think Kelly and Carlin were 100% in Katie's ear regarding moving back to Tenn., and Katie is SOOOO impressionable still that it probably didn't take much. 

It's unforgettable to me that when G&K went to visit the Clarks for the first time, Kelly was AGHAST that Trav only had a brother and sister and Kelly kept overcompensating being all like "oh he has sooooo many cousins in NJ, they were all raised like siblings." I'm sure Kelly and Carlin went on and on about how it's soooo bad that Hailey is being raised in NJ with so little family - just Trav's one brother; come to Tenn. - she'll have soooo many aunts and uncles and G&K. Uh except her paternal aunt and uncle absolutely dote on her, whereas Carlin and Evan are idiots who can barely handle their own kids; Josie and Kelton could care less and affirmatively want less time with the Bates side; Zach/Whit and Bobby/Tori have their hands full with their own 4-5 kids; Michael loves all babies but has her hands full as Josie's babysitter; and Addie/Ellie/Callie simply don't care as they are constantly farmed out to sister mom wherever as they seek their own men. And G&K - lol - they show up for photo opps; 7 billion grandkids and there's no place in their home for a grandkid to nap - as we've seen Layla sprawled on the floor. Trav's parents - grandkid #1 comes along - the formal dining room completely transformed into a playroom that looks stocked with toys and activities like a preschool!?

So yeah quantity in Tenn but no quality.

[GeeGolly]

I think J&K actually spent Mother's Day with G&KJ in FL.

But yea, J&K live a typical life of an average family. C&E and K&T, not so much.

[farmgal4]

8 hours ago, cereality said:

Layla is what 4-4.5 yrs old? Why the hell does she always need to be carried by that pastor of theirs?? Looks like they went to some amusement park with their only friends - the pastor/his wife and Trav/Katie - and there’s Layla in the pastor’s arms. What 4 yr old needs to be carried anyway? This looks like the beginning of the outing so it isn’t like child is exhausted and sleepy, let’s just carry them to the car - and even then I think that’s mom and dads job and maybe even Aunt Katie or Uncle Trav can step in in a pinch but this pastor really??

Isn’t she about the age where you start putting it in her head that she doesn’t need THAT much physical contact with anyone besides mom/dad, grandparents? Or if you don’t put that in a child’s head bc they’ll go repeat it, don’t YOU start paying attention to such things and start saying - Layla come stand by Aunt Katie for the pic - before creepy pastor picks her up??

And Carlin if “the best thing I’ll ever do is growing up raising you” perhaps you weren’t ready to be a mother. Most mothers I know were already grown up by the time the babies came - except the teen moms out of wedlock who you and your kind look down your noses on?! They may grow up raising their kids bc they’re 16 - you’re effing 26?!

Carlin+Evan =2 people who were entirely too immature to have children.  I’m not sure that they would ever be mature enough to have children.

Edited May 14 by farmgal4

[ginger90]

Screenshot from a video. Is this cute and I’m just not seeing it? 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Notabug]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

Screenshot from a video. Is this cute and I’m just not seeing it? 🤷🏼‍♀️

If so, I've gone blind, too.  I like the fabric for a cute summer frock, but this is not it.  The double ruffle looks like the balloon curtains that were so popular a few years ago and surely it is not supposed to be all creased and wrinkled.  Looks like she slept in it, which, at least, means not many people saw her out in public in it.

[Heathen]

Well, that'll hide a pregnancy until they need more content and clicks they're ready to announce it. 

[ozziemom]

And since when is a dress “she”? Or is Carlin referring to herself as cute???

[BetyBee]

That dress could have been cute for summer wear, but it's too balloony for my taste!

[Salacious Kitty]

That dress is awful. It would look even worse on anyone carrying even 10 extra pounds. 

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, ozziemom said:

And since when is a dress “she”? Or is Carlin referring to herself as cute???

It's become a big thing amongst the influencer crowd to refer to their clothing, shoes, makeup, whatever as 'she'.  It's affected and dumb, IMO.

[Natalie68]

On 5/11/2024 at 11:22 AM, BitterApple said:

I hope this 'sweet friend' doesn't turn out to be a scammer. Two things that stand out are the lack of a firm start date and a completely unrealistic timetable to get the job done. Assuming Carlin isn't lying to save face, this sounds a bit wonky. 

Honestly, how long does it take to blow up a pool? 😂

[GeeGolly]

Carlin's dress looks like a circus tent and table cloth gone wrong.

She has a Mother's Day reel on IG. I am squirming with secondhand embarrassment. This is going to haunt my dreams. 😬🙃

[BitterApple]

Carlin has a nice figure and that dress makes her look like a sack of potatoes. Is Shapeless Lump the trend for this year's summer fashion?

I agree with you all that the fabric is cute, it's the silhouette that's awful. 

[AstridM]

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Screenshot from a video. Is this cute and I’m just not seeing it? 🤷🏼‍♀️

She??? 
 

and no, it’s not cute to me, either. Just looks cheap and flismsy.

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

It's become a big thing amongst the influencer crowd to refer to their clothing, shoes, makeup, whatever as 'she'.  It's affected and dumb, IMO.

Oh, FFS 🤦‍♀️ 

[3 is enough]

Awful dress. Almost as bad as the one Whitney wore a couple of weeks ago. Is there no middle ground with this family? You either have shapeless cheap BSB dresses or the skin tight dresses Josie wears.🙄

[Heathen]

1 hour ago, 3 is enough said:

You either have shapeless cheap BSB dresses or the skin tight dresses Josie wears.🙄

I read that as Backstreet Boys dresses. Please carry on. 

Don't forget the ankle-length throwbacks Michael(a) wears. Those probably come from Atelier de Keilen, not BSB or wherever the hell Josie shops. 

[GeeGolly]

Carlin actually said in the "try-on" reel that her closet is filled with BSB clothing, which we know is not true. It seems to have taken her 5 years to figure out she should be wearing her own stuff and shilling it on her IG like she shills everything else.

[ginger90]

24 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Carlin actually said in the "try-on" reel that her closet is filled with BSB clothing, which we know is not true. It seems to have taken her 5 years to figure out she should be wearing her own stuff and shilling it on her IG like she shills everything else.

In a video she said 90% of her wardrobe is BSB. She needs an enema.

[ozziemom]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Carlin actually said in the "try-on" reel that her closet is filled with BSB clothing, which we know is not true. It seems to have taken her 5 years to figure out she should be wearing her own stuff and shilling it on her IG like she shills everything else.

How much of this BSB clothing does she actually wear? Whenever she posts “someone “ asking for a link to her clothes, it’s not BSB. And yes, I’m ashamed I remember that. “Someone “ is most likely her and she needs engagement so companies she likes will send her freebies.

[ginger90]

49 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

How much of this BSB clothing does she actually wear? Whenever she posts “someone “ asking for a link to her clothes, it’s not BSB. And yes, I’m ashamed I remember that. “Someone “ is most likely her and she needs engagement so companies she likes will send her freebies.

She’s also an Amazon influencer, or whatever they call it.

[cereality]

I wonder how much C&E pushed Z&W that Zach should start a cooking YT because C&E have been over there for dinner like 3 nights/week. LOL. IDK why exactly but my sense is Zach either cooks a ton for his YT and someone has to eat it or more likely maybe he is testing out recipes to feature on YT and C&E have pushed themselves into this and volunteered to come over and give their opinion on the food. And bam 3 nights/wk, their kids get a home cooked meal rather than eating potato chips or CFA like they were before. I mean now that they aren't hanging out at Nene's 10 days at a time every month, they had to figure out something for food that didn't involve them making an effort.

And as Jadon was "dancing" with Layla - not quite 3 yr old Jadon is the same size as Layla age 4.25. Wow she is tiny.

 

[GeeGolly]

Carlin keeps on trying to get a Nike deal. She's so clueless.

[BitterApple]

8 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Carlin keeps on trying to get a Nike deal. She's so clueless.

I get a kick out of watching Carlin trying to make fetch happen by constantly posting the family in Nikes. 

[cereality]

Hahaahaha the delusion runs deep with that one. I mean when I think Nike, I def think Serena Williams, Lebron James, Rafa Nadal . . . and Carlin . . . and Evan who is sure to strut around and let us know when he's hit a gym for an entire month 🙄. I know she didn't grow up with a TV. Plus I'm sure it's 10000% discouraged for a fundie girl to know anything about sports bc boys don't like "tough" women; I mean her parents had her convinced that she needed to be stupid enough to squawk that she didn't know her dad's name and her own SS # at the marriage license office so that Evan would feel like he was NEEDED to take care of this dumb "hottie" . . . . So I guess they imagined Evan may run for the hills if Carlin had ever dared said she knew who Serena Williams was and liked watching her matches.

But what exactly is Evan's problem? Just from his cultural references, he clearly grew up watching normal TV. He can't educate his dumb bride that Nike isn't looking for a nothing couple from BFE Tennessee to push the new Dunks bc they have a whole roster of pro athletes and now even D1 athletes who are going to be Olympians soon!?

[crazy8s]

1 hour ago, cereality said:

Hahaahaha the delusion runs deep with that one. I mean when I think Nike, I def think Serena Williams, Lebron James, Rafa Nadal . . . and Carlin . . . and Evan who is sure to strut around and let us know when he's hit a gym for an entire month 🙄.

So Jeremy Vuolo doesn't pop into your head there?😂 

Seems back in the day he was also dreaming he could get/ wished for a nike sponsorship by posting himself and his family in nike sneakers on any and all occasions

[ozziemom]

On 5/15/2024 at 3:12 PM, cereality said:

I wonder how much C&E pushed Z&W that Zach should start a cooking YT because C&E have been over there for dinner like 3 nights/week. LOL. IDK why exactly but my sense is Zach either cooks a ton for his YT and someone has to eat it or more likely maybe he is testing out recipes to feature on YT and C&E have pushed themselves into this and volunteered to come over and give their opinion on the food. And bam 3 nights/wk, their kids get a home cooked meal rather than eating potato chips or CFA like they were before. I mean now that they aren't hanging out at Nene's 10 days at a time every month, they had to figure out something for food that didn't involve them making an effort.

And as Jadon was "dancing" with Layla - not quite 3 yr old Jadon is the same size as Layla age 4.25. Wow she is tiny.

 

Maybe Zach has Evan help him with filming or editing and feeding the Stew Crew is the price? Zade and Layla probably don’t eat much since they snack so much.

[GeeGolly]

I think Evan has a pretty high opinion of himself. He likely imagines himself as a freelance photographer for Nike sometime in the near future.

The dad on Outdaughtered is a sneakerhead and fancies himself as a very talented videographer. 

[ginger90]

Screenshot from a video:

[BitterApple]

Did Carlin get veneers? Her teeth look bigger and white than I remember. 

I'm sad to think of Addie graduating. The poor girl is now on the fast track to be married off to some Fundie loser. I'm praying it isn't a Duggar boy. 

[cereality]

Sadly my first thought when I saw the graduation party and pics in cap and gown was WHY?? Sorry but for 99% of people you do the whole graduation party thing to celebrate with your friends and peers; in high school friends you've been with for 4 yrs - and often 12 yrs. I know this family thinks family is everything but yeah super fun to celebrate HS graduation with your 26-35 yr old sisters and their husbands and screaming children. And I'm sure they think it's a legit graduation now bc someone ordered a cap and gown off of Amazon. 🙄

Honestly the whole poster board with baby/kid pics + now grown up grad pics = advertisement for a fundie marriage. I imagine they are "worried" about her since she seems more reserved. Yet now with just Addie/Ellie/Callie at home, there isn't an Erin who was outgoing enough to call John and harass him into saying he like Alyssa or set up Evan with Carlin at a church event (enough though Carlin/Evan have made up a new story that doesn't involve Erin - for yrs it was Erin who set that up). Now the older sisters have moved on with their lives with 2-6 kids each and are like whatever . . .  good luck. I assume that's where Bible Studies at Crown comes in - 1 yr program with mission trips, so she's likely to meet like minded fundies or their sisters or something who could set something up; pretty sure John and Alyssa first saw each other on some mission trip - or Alyssa was there with one of John's brothers who then introduced her to John, something like that.

The NJ avenue is now closed since Katie has moved back. Though I suspect she'll be spending more time in Florida with both Alyssa and Jackson - in hopes of meeting someone at Alyssa's church or amongst Jackson's friends/through Emerson's family etc. IDK if we've ever seen her visit Erin/Chad - that's a potential angle but I wonder if Gil thinks Chad's church is too crazy even for him.

[cereality]

And WOW - Carlin's inlaws really have an embargo on appearing on their social media. IDK maybe we'll see them in next week's YT which will predictably be about Layla's dance recital - but I imagine that would just be them in the audience at the recital, talking to Layla afterwards. But otherwise NOTHING on IG re their visit. They made it a quick trip too - prob bc they knew C&E wouldn't NOT film for long. Seems like they came in Friday morning and left Sunday morning - after Layla's Sat recital. Appears that C&E used that Friday night to go on a date night with the pastor/his wife - rather than stay home with the inlaws - why not take advantage of the babysitting (and to be fair maybe everyone came in Thursday night IDK). And all we saw of them on IG in 48 hrs was one pic of Evan's brother at breakfast with them Sat morning - and it was a close enough shot that it was just his brother, you couldn't even see his parents etc. at the table.

[Heathen]

20 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Did Carlin get veneers? Her teeth look bigger and white than I remember. 

I'm sad to think of Addie graduating. The poor girl is now on the fast track to be married off to some Fundie loser. I'm praying it isn't a Duggar boy. 

Filters -- her nose is disappearing, too. And nobody has skin that even. 

The saddest part of Addallee's homeschooling "graduation" is that whoever made the decorations misspelled "high school." It's always two words, not one. 

[BitterApple]

Not sure if any of you lurk over on BatesSnark, but they're discussing Carlin's latest reels. Carlin is thanking all of Layla's "Instagram aunties" for their support, and she reposted a comment I found absolutely horrifying. Does it even occur to her that whoever wrote that might have meant it, ahem, quite literally? And how gross to encourage complete strangers to think of your child as family. I feel like Layla is being groomed to become a modern day JonBenet, without the tragic ending.

 

Edited May 29 by BitterApple

[cereality]

I've been skipping over the 4 yr old dance recital IGs bc it's been weeks a 4 yr old's dance recital that they're treating like an audition for Juilliard!? But holy hell. It's IG, it is VERY possible that the days and days of clips of makeup and outfit checks, dress rehearsals, the recital which I assume is on YT already, all the congratulating her/flowers after, and then re-doing the dance again for the creepy pastor last night HAVE in fact helped some creepy guys ahem . . . finish.

They want to stay blissfully unaware bc hey that means they get to hang out all day playing boutique and Evan doesn't have to work a 40 hr/wk job, but hello it takes about 5 min to put up a whole IG profile giving yourself a totally different identity. That "insta auntie" from Memphis with 3 young kids of her own who loves your kids sooooo much could just as easily be a 55 yr old dude living down the road who has his creepy eyes on your 4 yr old or 2 yr old. 

And this kid has what 18 Bates aunts and uncles + 4 Stewart aunts + 5 Bates aunts by marriage? This child needs virtual aunties, why exactly?? Sorry but you have enough people IRL to love and support your child. You want to share every detail and make your child feel so loved and special, share with them. Not just Whit but Aunt Michael genuinely loves all kids, Aunt Tiff would love a chance to be involved in anything. Kind of beats sharing with people who you don't know who could be creepy weirdos.

Carlin, Katie, and now Josie are flirting with danger and they simply don't care. They have put their lives and their kids SOOO out there. Any creep who was at all interested could find them. I don't even mean knocking on their door - though frankly they've shown enough of their homes/including the outside of them in a small town that it wouldn't be hard. But we all know where they attend church, what days, Gil's church, we know where BSB is and it periodically invites everyone in for massive sales with the owners and families present. At this point someone wouldn't even have to be the creep in the white van with candy. They could simply attend a few BSB sales, compliment Carlin a few times and mention they're looking for a church. Bam invited to church, hang out with the Bates esp someone like Carlin and Katie who are looking for friends (Josie seems more closed off - like she'd be nice to you but she wasn't gonna be inviting you to hang out with her group for years); if you want to hang with C&E then start going to events sponsored by the pastor and there you have it!? Hell someone local could probably even figure out what dance school, swim school they attend and they helpfully show us exactly what days.

I mean Josie who didn't used to go overboard with her kids on social media is certainly jumping on that train lately. How many pics have she and Katie posted with their kids in swimsuits just today? I get it - it's summer and they have access to a pool so kids will spend the summer in swimsuits but why do you need to post so many pics for the entire internet with your young daughters sitting there in a swimsuit legs open - as kids are apt to do!?

I think Tori probably took the right approach on social media from day 1. I realize it was bc she couldn't keep up with social media and/or probably also wanted some privacy for her family after whatever went down with Bobby in Nashville, but I think very occasional pics of her kids fully clothed at their grandparents house, on Christmas and their birthdays is all anyone needs. Alyssa and Erin post more and Alyssa does post swimsuit pics but IDK it doesn't seem as egregious maybe bc we don't know either Erin/Alyssa's whereabouts 24-7 and they really aren't out in the world so much that you could easily get to know them/their kids.

[AstridM]

19 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Not sure if any of you lurk over on BatesSnark, but they're discussing Carlin's latest reels. Carlin is thanking all of Layla's "Instagram aunties" for their support, and she reposted a comment I found absolutely horrifying. Does it even occur to her that whoever wrote that might have meant it, ahem, quite literally? And how gross to encourage complete strangers to think of your child as family. I feel like Layla is being groomed to become a modern day JonBenet, without the tragic ending.

 

I am beyond disgusted. 

If I said what I really wanted to, I would be banned. 

[AstridM]

19 hours ago, cereality said:

I've been skipping over the 4 yr old dance recital IGs bc it's been weeks a 4 yr old's dance recital that they're treating like an audition for Juilliard!? But holy hell. It's IG, it is VERY possible that the days and days of clips of makeup and outfit checks, dress rehearsals, the recital which I assume is on YT already, all the congratulating her/flowers after, and then re-doing the dance again for the creepy pastor last night HAVE in fact helped some creepy guys ahem . . . finish.

They want to stay blissfully unaware bc hey that means they get to hang out all day playing boutique and Evan doesn't have to work a 40 hr/wk job, but hello it takes about 5 min to put up a whole IG profile giving yourself a totally different identity. That "insta auntie" from Memphis with 3 young kids of her own who loves your kids sooooo much could just as easily be a 55 yr old dude living down the road who has his creepy eyes on your 4 yr old or 2 yr old. 

And this kid has what 18 Bates aunts and uncles + 4 Stewart aunts + 5 Bates aunts by marriage? This child needs virtual aunties, why exactly?? Sorry but you have enough people IRL to love and support your child. You want to share every detail and make your child feel so loved and special, share with them. Not just Whit but Aunt Michael genuinely loves all kids, Aunt Tiff would love a chance to be involved in anything. Kind of beats sharing with people who you don't know who could be creepy weirdos.

Carlin, Katie, and now Josie are flirting with danger and they simply don't care. They have put their lives and their kids SOOO out there. Any creep who was at all interested could find them. I don't even mean knocking on their door - though frankly they've shown enough of their homes/including the outside of them in a small town that it wouldn't be hard. But we all know where they attend church, what days, Gil's church, we know where BSB is and it periodically invites everyone in for massive sales with the owners and families present. At this point someone wouldn't even have to be the creep in the white van with candy. They could simply attend a few BSB sales, compliment Carlin a few times and mention they're looking for a church. Bam invited to church, hang out with the Bates esp someone like Carlin and Katie who are looking for friends (Josie seems more closed off - like she'd be nice to you but she wasn't gonna be inviting you to hang out with her group for years); if you want to hang with C&E then start going to events sponsored by the pastor and there you have it!? Hell someone local could probably even figure out what dance school, swim school they attend and they helpfully show us exactly what days.

I mean Josie who didn't used to go overboard with her kids on social media is certainly jumping on that train lately. How many pics have she and Katie posted with their kids in swimsuits just today? I get it - it's summer and they have access to a pool so kids will spend the summer in swimsuits but why do you need to post so many pics for the entire internet with your young daughters sitting there in a swimsuit legs open - as kids are apt to do!?

I think Tori probably took the right approach on social media from day 1. I realize it was bc she couldn't keep up with social media and/or probably also wanted some privacy for her family after whatever went down with Bobby in Nashville, but I think very occasional pics of her kids fully clothed at their grandparents house, on Christmas and their birthdays is all anyone needs. Alyssa and Erin post more and Alyssa does post swimsuit pics but IDK it doesn't seem as egregious maybe bc we don't know either Erin/Alyssa's whereabouts 24-7 and they really aren't out in the world so much that you could easily get to know them/their kids.

Absolutely, Tori is the only one doing it right. I am so disgusted I can’t find words for the others right now. 😡😡

[3 is enough]

Not to defend Carlin and Josie because I think they post far too many photos of the kids in general and bathing suit photos are even more problematic, but I do wonder if they are just really naive and don’t even realize how these types of photos attract creeps.

 

Edited May 30 by 3 is enough

[Salacious Kitty]

19 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

Not to defend Carlin and Josie because I think they post far too many photos of the kids in general and bathing suit photos are even more problematic, but I do wonder if they are just really naive and don’t even realize how these types of attract creeps.

 

I'm sure they have gotten many messages from poop touchers on Reddit. 

Edited May 30 by Salacious Kitty

[cereality]

15 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

Not to defend Carlin and Josie because I think they post far too many photos of the kids in general and bathing suit photos are even more problematic, but I do wonder if they are just really naive and don’t even realize how these types of attract creeps.

 

I mean yeah generally I err on the side of - these people are idiots who are divorced from reality. But in this case aren't their sweet friends the Duggars? Isn't Carlin's bestie Joy? Did Carlin attend some portion of the trial (I could be wrong about attending in person - but I feel like Carlin/Evan's name came up at trial as having bought a car from Joshie). So they really didn't take that chance to not listen to daddy and JB Duggar who I'm sure were playing the - "the system it out to get our Godly boy but that's ok he'll spread the Lord's word in prison" bullshit and just do a quick google of what Josh was doing? The trial coverage via Daily Mail was really really detailed. I'm a lawyer so I followed it out of my own interest and it basically was a tech trial - FBI witnesses testifying about how kid pics end up on the dark web, how Joshie was accessing those pics etc. 

Even though they are idiots and didn't understand 99% of it, if they had just read 1-2 articles, they'd at least know there's something called the dark web and creeps are on it and they take those "cute" pics of your little girls in bathing suits or your little boys fat rolls or whatever and do unspeakable edits to them and then jerk off!? How hard is that to understand?

And maybe the girls are sooooo dumb that they STILL don't get it, but isn't the whole purpose of this system to raise your daughters to be dumbasses who can just birth a kid yearly but being a dumbass is ok bc their wise headships will guide them through life? Where are the wise headships? Evan and Kelton don't get it either? Or they simply don't care bc putting out pics of their kids non stop allows them to not work a 9-5 (Evan) or affords them the extras that may be tight on their income/take a bit more savings like 5 vacations per year and a new house (Kelton)?

[Salacious Kitty]

I don't think Carlin attended The Felon's trial, and they bought the lemon SUV from Jed. As for Joy, I don't she talked much about the trial or her abuse until she recently got into counseling. 

I agree that the families look the other way since they make so much money off the Internet, and exploiting their kids is part of that. 

[BitterApple]

24 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

 

I agree that the families look the other way since they make so much money off the Internet, and exploiting their kids is part of that. 

That's my take as well. I think they rationalize Josh Duggar as a one-off, the exception rather than the rule, and any creepy DM's they receive are dismissed as trolls and haters. I also think they've been extremely lucky that they've never had a security incident, whether it's someone showing up at their door or issuing threats (that we know of, anyways). Also, putting your personal business on the Interwebz has been so normalized, it's easy to justify it as "everyone does it." 

As far as Evan and Kelton? I agree, both like the $$$$ and freebies that Influencing brings in. Kelton is very achievement oriented and if pics of Hazel and Willow get him into that six bedroom McMansion a decade earlier than he could off plumbing alone, then so be it. Evan will do anything to avoid working a full time job. 

[3 is enough]

Maybe it’s more the belief that Jesus will protect them from all the evil in the world because they lead such Godly lives that gives them a false sense of security?

I can see them dismissing Josh Duggar as an anomaly. I have a harder time with Carlin and Evan allowing creepy pastor to manhandle their kids. I guess they think because he is a man of God he couldn’t possibly have any other agenda.🙄

[65mickey]

2 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

I guess they think because he is a man of God he couldn’t possibly have any other agenda.🙄

Big mistake.

[RebeccatheWriter]

12 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I don't think Carlin attended The Felon's trial, and they bought the lemon SUV from Jed. As for Joy, I don't she talked much about the trial or her abuse until she recently got into counseling. 

I agree that the families look the other way since they make so much money off the Internet, and exploiting their kids is part of that. 

She did not attend. Josh's downloads that were caught happened a few weeks before Carlin and Evan got married. The evidence the prosecutor had included texts from Josh to Evan where he said he was at the car lot and had a car Carlin was interested in there then. It was among several pieces of evidence that placed Josh at the car lot at the time of the downloads. 

 I would have been mortified (though in this case they did nothing wrong) to have my name anywhere in a case like that. Again, it wasn't their fault that Josh is a predator, but I would be hyperaware of such things after that. 

[Dimi1]

We all see influencers everyday...but...most do not FOCUS  on their kids....they are included yes...but are not the focus..( aka..Daphne Oz)....also  - big influencers understand the culture and have barriers in place...like body guards, gated houses or even gated communities...the bates and duggers do not...so they are vulnerable...you only need to listen to the podcast " small town dicks" which I love! ..and you realize..there are people out there that are evil....no way no shape no form would I put my life out there....I am online -- but not under my own name...and my daughter got off FB and most other sites after her kids were born...so they are not shown online...

[AstridM]

22 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Not to defend Carlin and Josie because I think they post far too many photos of the kids in general and bathing suit photos are even more problematic, but I do wonder if they are just really naive and don’t even realize how these types of photos attract creeps.

 

But Carlin is “best friends” with Joy and I assume knows what happened to her and why Josh is in prison . . .

22 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I'm sure they have gotten many messages from poop touchers on Reddit. 

I KNOW they have. 

[GeeGolly]

Poop touchers?

[Salacious Kitty]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

Poop touchers?

People who post incendiary comments on famous people's posts then come back to their group of origin to brag about it. Even z list celebs like the Duggars and Bateses count. 

[cereality]

Are C&E on vacation with his side of the family? Because there have been 1-2 pics/videos which have quickly featured other random kids that aren't theirs nor from Carlin's side. If it is his family damn his parents/siblings have really laid down the law regarding NOT being on YT because they have been super careful to not feature any adults. Though I also think they're trying to play it as - see we took our family on vacation all by ourselves OMG what an accomplishment - like they did last year. Except they certainly aren't by themselves, they just aren't featuring others.

But to keep the creeps interested, Carlin had to be sure to post a picture of the boy's fat rolls.

And they may want to consider some better sunscreen on the kids because the boy is looking awfully tan very quickly.

EDITED - lol - no the vacation isn't with Evan's family. It's with the pastor and his family + pastor's sister and her family. I've NEVER met any 26-29 yr olds ever who were SO eager to hang out with a bunch of 40+ yr olds ALL THE TIME.

Edited June 4 by cereality