Retired at last

I have pretty much the same reactions. I wanted to yell at Michelle (who I really do not like) every time she brings up his living arrangements - and she keeps bringing it up. What does she expect him to do right now while he is on his honeymoon, for crying out loud???? I think she has decided that she doesn't like him or want him and she is going to stick to this story until he walks out. She is nowhere near ready to be in any relationship where COMPROMISE is critical. I think David is pretty nice. I wouldn't like the smoking, and I think that this should have been one of those things that was disclosed before matching. But, they never should have been paired. I hope David is one of the ones who swaps spouses, if that actually happens. He seems like he could be a good partner. She does not. Karla and Juan are not even close to being compatible. They are pretty, vapid, people who look nice together. That is all. She is a flake and he is empty. I thought that when his father asked how she made her money, that it was a legitimate question and he wanted to know what she does. He didn't ask her if she was a hooker or anything like that. But, on Afterparty she explained that she loves what she does, but talking about money just ruins the mood. Emem and Ikechi are kind of strange, but he seems way more affectionate towards her when they are in the group. Was he serious that he is vegan and they matched him with someone who enjoys eating meat organs? Again, maybe they were asked and they expressed no preferences, but that seems like it could be an issue. Madison is not interested in compromising, either. Whenever they keep focusing on how they don't know each other and don't think about their partner instead of trying to get to know them better shows that they aren't ready. Again, if they stop putting everyone together on the honeymoons, it would make the couples focus on themselves and spend time getting to know each other instead of the constant comparisons between the couples. ("This couple is way more comfortable together and that makes me seem even more upset with who I am matched with.") So, I think Madison and Michelle are going to bail or use each other to make each other feel that they are ok for not feeling their "marriage." Camille and Tom might be OK, but I am, unfortunately getting a zero/five end game yeses. But, I am sad for David that he is going to try to work through something that has already been decided.

Didn't he mention that he was vaping?

@SanDiegoInExile, thanks, but I didn't even watch when I had Peacock for free when it first started on Cox. For me, it's not the $20. I already pay for Netflix, Paramount + (because that's where Criminal Minds is now), and Hulu, so there is no reason I want to pay more for a show I really don't care about anymore. I can read daily summaries, and most of the time, it is hard to just read them. I, like many of you, remember watching as a kid with my mother and just kept watching.

I don't have Peacock, so I don't even like READING about B&S. If people wanted to do a little funny take on soaps, then they should have done that in a one and done Halloween episode, or April Fool's joke. They used to do elaborate filler shows for those days. That is where I believe Body and Soul belonged. As it is, I don't think Abe will ever get his dignity back.

So, how much longer do we have for the B&S BS until it is away from the TV? If that's what it took to get rid of Re-Ron, hooray. Maybe that will show the producers that they are hurting themselves (and the viewers) filming questionable stories that NO ONE wants to see.

I know we are supposed to be talking about this current season, but since we didn't get a show this week, I have one more comment about Lindy. . .I just remember her saying that she wanted his medical benefits and she only worked part-time so she could travel, etc. She also was very clear that she did not want anyone to ask her to justify why she only worked the limited hours she did. As a physical therapist, I'm sure she could get many hours. But, she did strike me as entitled and kind of lazy - getting by on her extraordinary good looks. (She was cute, but that's about it.)

@Elizzikra, that reminds me of Miguel and his wife (forgot her name) who just wanted to get his medical benefits and didn't want to work on a regular basis, or be questioned about how much she worked. Lindy?

Hmmmm, that preview looks interesting, so I might watch. But, then I will be right back here saying that they got me again with the fake-out!

@boes and @brisbydog, you speak for me, as well. Now, just throw in there some stuff about how much we loathe anything with that cartoon Paulina, and hate seeing what they have done to the once-dignified Abe, and we will have covered the whole current Days scenario.

Another ready-to-settle-down groom with a life-of-the-party bride? Hmmmm, where have we seen this before? Oh yeah - on almost every MAFS season! Has it ever worked out?

I know that a lot of people really like the returning of former characters, but to me, it just crowds the stories since most of them are just returning for a short time. If Philip's return is just to get Kristen to stop trying to take Titan, fine. But, we don't need new wasted stories - UNLESS they get rid of the stupid soap opera nonsense. In that case, I guess I would rather see useless and stupid stories with people we already know. So, Salem is now the new LA/NY in terms of casting for acting roles? And, I know people have been asking about Joy for a long time, but it doesn't sound like she will be a nice person. We already have teens/young 20s silly teens with Holly and Sophia. So, now we have Joy.

Thanks for the warning! That annoys me, too. I keep telling myself that "things change," but that doesn't mean we have to like them. I once had to tell someone I was interviewing for my team that I thought she had great skills, but I could not hire her for a senior trainer position unless I knew that I could put her in front of a group of senior leaders and she could speak professionally. And, since it was so distracting during the interview, I had tallied the number of 'likes' she used. I know it is just a lazy bad habit, but it is what it is. Of course, after I pointed it out to her, I gave her a chance to answer the questions again, or reschedule and come back.

Hmmm, Chad and Abigail's reception makes it sound like they actually did get married, but it wouldn't be legal, even if they finished the ceremony, because she is NOT Abigail. I hope that will wrap up soon and that it will be a long time before the writers decide that Clyde needs to be involved in anything else - ever. I like that there seems to be real movement in legitimate stories and not so much garbage fake soap stories. So, we go from Fiona making a "confession" in an earlier spoiler to her now moving on to do something to stop Sarah from remembering. I liked the earlier speculation that it would end up that she was dying or something and then would have to build a relationship with Xander, but, not if she actually tries to harm Sarah. Lying and covering up is one thing, but not intentionally trying to cause harm. I guess we are still supposed to care about Holly, Tate, and Sophia. And Ava. Nope. Easy pass.

So, no one else watched? I don't bother with any of the fillers, especially if Kevin Frazier and his panel of nobodies are involved. Pretty auspicious start to a long-delayed season.

I imagine that if Dick Van Dyke could make it, he would. But, he is so frail now and is probably just hoping to make it to 100. This is yet another example of how the ridiculous filming schedule ruins yet another milestone moment. By the time they get around to writing, casting, and filming John Black's funeral, I don't see that happening. Which is kind of good, because even reading the summary of THAT show would destroy me! On a positive (?) note - maybe this gives Deidre Hall a chance to take a Botox break so that she would be able to muster up some kind of facial reaction?

I thought Oct. 2 was supposed to be the new season, but now I am seeing Oct. 16? It is not looking good to me. It has been so long since the season was filmed that it just seems like a disaster, or why haven't they released it sooner? Anyone have scoop?

He was one beautiful man. RIP.

I am just hoping that without John, that doesn't leave Marlena/Deidre just to be Hattie on the stupid soap, with occasional hypnosis therapy sessions with various Salemites.

Maybe - but at least people who are likable. We haven't had that for a while.

Well, at least this gets Alvez away from Garcia. (Penelope Garcia, that is.)

Interesting that the end of the Connie story appears to happen tomorrow (Friday) and is over to the point that Melinda is found (obviously, she didn't get blown up) and is well enough to be offered a new job on Monday. And, I still think that Sarah knows it was Fiona behind the wheel and she will play her, trying to get to her guilt to admit it. But, as long as Sarah knows enough to say that it was NOT Brady, that should protect him. So, who is drugging him? Fiona? Is that what Xander confesses to Sarah? And, why wait until next week for Brady and Eric to catch up? Haven't they already been talking? Sigh. More Hattie and Body and Soul. I can't even imagine what that cast photo will look like. Maybe a lot like the current cast of Days?

Isn't he leaving again for real?

I am wondering if the results of the next season, which is already completed, weren't any better than the last few and they are not sure they want to release it? It's been really quiet as far as leaks or spoilers, which, you're right @kikicat, it doesn't bode well.

John, who just got back from Greece trying to confess to something he doesn't even remember, is going to tell Brady to avoid making a rash decision?

Good discussion. It is especially relevant as I am watching today's marathon and am enjoying a season 4 show. The right people (although Garcia is still there), the right lighting, and interesting characters. The more often I see MGG and his character's growth, I appreciate (and miss it) it even more. I sincerely hope that if there is a new season, they will go back to when the stories and characters made for "must see" TV. I subscribed to Paramount+ JUST because of CM, and I sure haven't watched it much.