Retired at last

What if they bring back Marci Miller, but NOT as Abby? Because that would be something unique and has never been done before - especially by this show! Chad would be obsessed and think she was Abby, but she wouldn't be. They could have a whole team of people who came back as other people - Adrienne/Bonnie, Ben/Alex, Gwen/Theresa and I am sure I am forgetting some. It's a stupid idea that has never really worked, but that won't stop them from trying.

Well, maybe he THOUGHT he was until he was actually living it. And ready for marriage is not the same as being ready to commit to a person he's never met before. (That goes for all of them. Clearly, this season NONE of the people were matched with a compatible spouse, even if any of them were "ready.") I miss the days when actually making good matches was the goal. Now it is just about causing the most drama and humiliation.

They have already said that she is lying to protect Nicole, since she is still sad about her lost baby.

She said that he later texted her "Thanks." So, he did respond, but there was no warmth or interest. I think Brennan mentioned one time, either on the show or the Afterparty that he didn't think anyone in their 30s should still be such a party girl, so we knew very early that he didn't like that.

Sorry, @Elizzikra, but the idea of Michael and Lauren together just made me laugh. Those two with all their flowery word salad and deep philosophies would drive me crazy! Neither one of them (to me) show any real emotion (even when Lauren was crying over Orion) and have relatively no affect. Lauren seems happy now and you can see it in her face, unlike when she was with Orion. He needs to just go away. Michael was a more tolerable version of Orion, for some reason. Orion is just an idiot weirdo. But, I also can't see Michael with Becca. She is way too weepy and needy for him. I just can't believe this show is still going on so far past D Day. I'm sure it is because they have to fill with something while we wait for Michael and Chloe to give their decisions, which I think we all know what they will be. I wonder what happened to the deep scar that Emily was supposed to have. There was NOTHING on her face where that injury was. It was about time that Clarapist finally got the message that Cam didn't want to see/hear from her EVER. Same with the other soon-to-be exes. Austin seemed to still think he could be in some kind of friendship with Becca, but that won't/shouldn't happen. As long as she sees him, she will want him (why???) and she won't get over him. All of the women looked better and were not so stressed out. Two weeks in a row with Chloe on Afterparty was two weeks too many. I still don't like her and she really does seem to have a superiority complex. For them to go looking for a house to rent ($4500 a month???), I think, put any idea of a future with Michael off the table. Of course, if you are married, you should be living with your spouse, but I get why Michael doesn't want to make that kind of commitment with someone he barely knows. I didn't see the session with Dr. Pia last week, but I do like that she called Chloe fake and not "authentic." (If I ever have to hear that word again, it will be too soon.) That word seems to be this season's version of "vulnerable," which was the word-of-the-day for a few seasons. So, if next week is the final regular show (D Day for the last two), then I wonder what happens next. As I have said before, there is no need for a reunion since they are all seeing each other all the time. It would be great if it ended there, but I think I read that there are shows through April.

Wait- Becca is crying? How unusual. NOT.

They look so happy and their son is adorable. I am glad that we got to see a REAL romance happen. They also were very careful/selective about what they shared and managed to avoid the drama and be the grown-ups. (Well, except for the production-driven story about I don't even remember, but it clearly was not real.) I only remember Bobby and Danielle, Kristine and Keith, Woody and Amani, Gregg and I-forgot-her-name, and these guys. The Bobby/Danielle season was the first one I watched, so I don't know any of the couples before them (except for Jamie and Doug, who creep me out).

And how long ago was that article current, even though it says March 2024? The couple leaving the show wasn't even back for more than an hour.

So, I sure missed something here - Li is coming back and Wendy is gone??? Is Tripp still here?

Maybe they are having EJ be the vicious, cut-throat villain we knew before is the stupid writers' stupid story that clears the way for a Nicole/Eric pairing again? No one would want their precious Nicole to be stuck with a bad guy. I am not a fan of the Nicole character, so I don't care, but I know that many here love her. I actually prefer her to be with someone who doesn't mind her serious bad judgement issues.

I guess I am in the minority, but I believe that Becca was just citing an example of when Austin has lied. I don't think she cared about the vaping, but she does not want to be lied to - and who can blame her for that? Also, considering what this board "experts" on vaping have written, it is just stupid for him to lie about that if she could smell it. I STILL am totally confused as to what she loves so much about him and how she keeps going back and forth on her decision. This waffling HAS to be producer driven, since she is the only one they could manipulate.

I recall that differently. I heard him say that he had those same texts and his were in context, and he would be glad to share. I think that was the point when he just started telling what Clare had told him not to say. And, yes, he really was mad. I can't help it - I believe him over her. I do wonder how early in the "process" they decided that there was no future and what their game plan would be.

I am watching the Afterparty now. I really don't like Chloe. I think she is totally fake and playing a part, but I don't know what part. I am looking forward to the Cam part. Not sure what Keisha's husband is adding. I also have had enough of woe-is-me Becca. If she was finding out lies Austin was telling every single day, including the vaping, why was she making it such a big deal to dump him? What did she think was going to change? And for her to keep saying that she loves him is also over the top. It was 8 weeks! And she kept losing trust in him. What exactly was she loving about him? And, after seeing the previews for next week that they showed at the end of Afterparty - she is still second guessing herself and missing him????? There has never been a season where there are so many episodes after D Day, but before the reunion. This group of people was so toxic and manipulative, the show needs to go back to when the couples did their own things and didn't hang out with the others so much. However, I am loving Cam talking about Clare and how she was determined to break up Emily and Brennan. As most of us have noted, Clare is NOT a nice person, nor were her friends. (Maybe that was Emily's friends, but anyway, Clare is not nice.) And, I do believe that she wanted to control the "camera optics" as much as the men did and she was hoping to get new clients. But, I do think I am done. I don't want to see another episode of weepy Becca, ridiculous Orion and Lauren, and horrible Chloe. I don't believe there is any need for a reunion show because they haven't stopped spending all their time together - it's over, people, you all wanted divorces, so go away!

I also see that we have a full HOUR of the Afterparty tonight. My listing didn't say who was going to be on.

What is he crying about?

On the preview, I think it showed Chloe saying she wanted 5 foster kids at a time. How long does she plan to foster each group?Is she planning to stay home and raise them? I still have 2 more hours before it is even on here, so thanks for the comments. You do really help me decide if I want to watch.

Comparing the males and females on this show is a bit different, because I believe that many, if not all, of the men have been recruited to be on the show. I think they have an easier time getting desperate women to apply, but they have to go hunting for men.

Here's a fun recap with some rumors/spoilers thrown in. I LOVE how she kept referring to Clare as Clarapist. I wish I had thought of that and used it this season.

I must have missed the part where Becca told Austin that she wanted to be alone that night, because, to me, that was the final straw. If they couldn't come home from their emotional Decision Day and be a couple together, it would never work. I think the producers talked them into agreeing to stay together so they would have ONE couple be successful.

The fact that they had just agreed to actually stay married that day and they didn't go to someone's home that night should have told Becca that it wasn't real. The show and cameras were over, so they should have gone to one of their apartments, since I imagine they both had to be out of the show one when they went to the D Day meeting. They could have even gone to. hotel or something, but the fact that they didn't should have been all that Becca needed to see.

We DID get a glimpse of the cameras when we saw Becca and Austin arguing about on- and -off-camera behavior and the ever important "optics" accusations.

If Becca and Austin agreed that they were going to stay married, then why weren't they together that night? That should have been Becca's first red flag for this round. Why was he available to date or meet up with a producer (who will maybe lose her job now?). I personally hated the jumping on Austin and the way Becca confronted him in the group. Sure, she needed her pack of mean girls to egg her on, but I don't think that setting was appropriate. Maybe that was part of the deal she made with production if they agreed to say yes on D Day. I LOVED that Cameron spilled Clare's secret that she hadn't been attracted to him since Day 1, which we all knew. Then she showed up with a dress that she had to keep pulling up and no jacket in Denver, but he wasn't the slightest bit interested. I don't think they will be spending much time together, even as friends. Go, Cam! I missed the first few minutes - did they even mention Lauren and Orion? I was so glad to not have to rehash that mess, although Lauren now is open to reconnecting. Yuck! The way everyone was sucking up to Emily reminded me of the season when they did that to Haley and totally trashed Jake (thanks, @Alexander Pope), who I liked! I never liked that Haley and get the same vibes from Emily. She is NO angel, although Brennan was done after the honeymoon. I am glad she mentioned going to therapy (or was that Becca? They both need it.), so that maybe they can find what they want and how to attract that. Desperation doesn't work. Either does drunken "party girl." Next week I will definitely record and FF through if they are going to be spending significant time with Chloe and Michael. I don't like her at all and he is just ridiculous. At least they are having sex, I guess. And, why didn't I ever realize how short Dr. P was????? I hope they get new experts next time. That sex dr. didn't have much to work with this season - no one wanted any. Well, none of the men anyway. Which, I do appreciate that they didn't all just jump on what was being offered. It was those optics, you know.

I can see the frat boy reference for Austin, but because of his age, he is acting immature, as opposed to real frat boys, who are in college and finding their way. Well, no one will be in the apartments since they always separate before they go to D Day. So, the guys already left, but the girls still have to leave.

Well, if Bo and Hope come back, Ben and Ciara and the kids can come, too, and then we get to see more RSW try to be different people.