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Yes. Alliances work in Survivor and Big Brother because the game is about voting other players out. TAR has always been a superior show because victory isn't about avoiding getting voted out, it's about racing to the finish line. Each team runs their own race, they don't HAVE to team up against other racers. Maybe that's why I am bothered by the way the alliance was going. It was more like a Survivor/Big Brother alliance, where 6 people try to get others eliminated.

I'm not convinced that all the teams know about the others alliances. Or, they have an idea which teams work together, but not the extent to which teams are willing to go to make sure their alliance members advance past the other teams. I guess what bothers me is the "us vs. Them" mentality, that 3 teams work together to bully another team. At the beef task, grabbing all the tables the way they did was basically ganging up on another team. Helping teams by giving them a hint or a tip has always been a part of TAR. But running the race as a team of 6 is just unfair.

Exactly. The female team who showed up to the beef challenge, saw everybody cooperating, asked a question and received an icy response. Wow. Yeah, nobody HAS to help you, but that was rude.

I was disappointed because the story was too much on Olivia. I wanted to know - what did the boys plan to do with the kidnapped girl? Who were these other boys? How did the older boy get them to commit crimes with him? Did they all get life sentences? The story just switches back to Olivia and Noah, leaving the main story hanging.

Gerry and Teresa went from being engaged on TV to being married on TV to announcing they are divorcing. Again, on TV.

Not fiancee, WIFE. They had a big televised wedding not long ago. Saw it coming? Sure. 2 people in different areas of the country, already with kids/,grandkids. Neither wanted to make the sacrifice to move. It seems the premise is doomed from the start. Plus, Gerry was having too much fun being the center of attention.

Yes, it is unrealistic that people in that age group who have kids and grandkids can have a marriage to someone in another state. As we age, we become more dependent on having our kids close by.

What was it we heard a thousand times? "Don't find the one you can live with, find the one you can't live without. " I guess he found he could live without her.

I had an irrational dislike for Amber, I couldn't figure out why. Normally I would be sympathetic to a woman whose partner keeps telling her to move faster. Then it hit me. The resemblance to Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

I'm beginning to hate Kenzie.

Joey reminds me of the character in this show:

Lexi talks about not wanting a long engagement. It's pretty usual to DATE for 1 to 2 years before getting engaged. But this is the Bachelor, where the couple STARTS with an engagement. It wouldn't make sense to jump into marriage and kids so quickly after he's been dating others.

Lea says "my heart is in my ass ." Is that a saying? What does it mean?" Cause it sounds stupid.

Exactly! She didn't have to tell everyone what the card said, she could have been vague, and then used it when needed. On the other hand, we know that as soon as another girl rubbed her the wrong way that girl would get a one on one date, right? The powers that be gave her an advantage in order to stir up drama.

So the beginning is, I think, trying to tell us that Joey shows up to the final rose, ready to propose and the woman doesn't show up? But we know how they like to mislead us so we can assume that's not what happens, right? The chemistry intro was stupid. Pour this into that and see what happens is not an experiment. Then the giant bra, the screaming girl, the "tennis grunt", the tennis balls, made the chemistry experiment seem smart by comparison.

I recall a season, don't remember which bachelor, when it seemed like all the women used the same clairol shade of Crayola yellow. I'm glad this season is different.

I just found this show, and I really enjoyed it. The only contestant I didn't like was Pam, the older woman who couldn't stop reminding us that she is older. The host was great, the perfect mix of serious and funny.

Late chiming in here. Of COURSE they should have a pre-nup. They each have kids! On another note, how much do you want to bet that Garry's wedding vows include the words, "don't choose the one you can live with, choose the one you can't live without?"

Mari should have been given the message: Beach wedding and a dress with a train is not a good mix. The pressure to be engaged by the end of the show is ridiculous. I understand that someone can want to be married, and not continue a relationship if there is no chance of that. But a timeline of three weeks?

"Retired restaurateur" has much classier, fancier term than, "man who had a fast food franchise and sold it and now does maintenance work." It may be literally true, but it reminds me of how people pad their resumes to get a job.

I thought it was cruel of Christina to laugh at them for not knowing how to make butter.

The worst of all of them is "I want a tongue in my mouth" Kat.

Wow, that roast had a lot of mean digs at people. Starting with Katie taking shots at blake, then everyone mocking people for their relationship failures. There were a few funny moments, I liked Olivia's "how did I taste?" But overall, it's like the intent was to hurt.

Watching the Juicy Box episode right now. How strange. Q sleeps in, starts his day with a shot, says he wants to run a restaurant but shows no interest in doing any actual work. And they don't have a working refrigerator. Gordon buys him all new equipment. No, he doesn't deserve it. Let losers go broke.

Golden Bachelorette? I am this demographic, and my response (based on my husband, all my brothers and brothers-in-law and my friends' husbands) is that a group of guys this age, hanging out in the mansion without television sets tuned to sports, would be miserable. Women in this age group tend to be chatty. Men bond with other men (and argue) over sports or politics.