tinkerbell

No advantage? Every time Jared learned anything from other players, any alliances, any plans, he reported right back to mama. She had a better handle on everything going on than anyone else did. Whether she used all the info in the best way is debatable. But Jared reporting to her was a definite advantage. And, he protected her from being on the block.

And I can't help thinking how pissed off the others would be if this scenario plays out. Knowing they played their hardest in a game where the competition was rigged against them.

But Cirie, I believe, is not there to win. She's there to help her baby boy win. That's what makes this season so unfair. Everyone else had to work to form alliances and friendships, never knowing who is sincere and who is lying. That's part of the BB game. 2 players came in having a strong alliance already. In one of Izzy's interviews, she was asked to predict the winner. She said Jared. She knew that was Cirie's plan.

I agree. Jared acted like he was untouchable because of his mom. That may have been true earlier in the season, but things have changed. I don't see Cory as smug at all.

With many of the houseguests being upset with Jared, wouldn't it be great if the more he tried to convince them to vote out Cameron, the more they considered doing the opposite?

Too bad this isn't Survivor, where he could pull out a hidden immunity idol at the last minute.

Yeah, I hated Cameron early on. But he stepped up and played the game, kept everyone guessing. Other HoHs did Cirie's bidding, essentially handing over the HoH to her. Cameron changed the direction of the game by questioning why she got to be in charge. Cameron doesn't seem to have any friends in the house. He shook things up so nobody trusts him, but nobody knows who to trust. I wish he would be around longer because he made the show fun to watch. Everyone accepts that Cirie and Jared are solid with each other, even though nobody else has been able to have one person they're consistently loyal to. AND THEY CANT FIGURE IT OUT.

I think it would be great if Jared and Cirie were on the block together, cirie campaigns to be sent home, and they send Jared home instead. These people need to do whatever is opposite of what Cirie tells them to do.

Her scream when he won HoH should have given it away right there.

I like the way Cirie talks about all the different alliances, as if the alliances just appeared out of nowhere. As if she wasn't the one setting up all these fake alliances! Cory calls her out, and Cirie has that "oh shit!" Look on her face.

I myself wouldn't care. I need the money and I'm not internet famous. But Cirie, from what I gather, is considered some kind of Survivor legend even though she never won Survivor. If she or Jared win, yeah, it kind of looks it was handed to her to make up for prior losses. She might care about that. And perhaps the producers would care if the show was seen as rigged from the start. (Getting a whole Celebrity Apprentice vibe here)

I think Cirie is smart enough to realize that if she makes jury and Jared wins, or if Jared makes jury and she wins, the win will forever be tainted. Whether the others find out before the vote or not until after the finale, there will be a LOT of animosity toward the two of them. And MAYBE that is the reason for the 7 person jury. Production realizes what a mistake it is to have a mother and son compete, and they want to break it up before jury.

I think it finally dawned on Cirie that if she and Jared reached F2 , ALL of the others would feel ripped off and deceived. Her status as some kind of Survivor legend would be gone, replaced by the memory of the time a duo won against a house full of singles who had no chance. If one of them goes pretty far and the other wins, houseguests will still be pissed at the unfair advantage they had. Going out now, and revealing their relationship on the way out, would preserve the relationships and the reputation she has built. At least to some extent.

There was also an earlier exchange of her saying she HATED Cameron.

I can't help but wonder what kind of player Izzy would have been in another season. I found her to be likeable except for the Cirie worship, which kept her from playing the game smarter. All the lies and switching of loyalties really brought to light what an advantage Cirie and Jared have. Nobody else can trust anyone in the house, they're making promises, talking behind backs, nobody knows who to trust. Except for mother and son. I hate it.

Not me. I don't want Jared to get anything he wants. I haven't liked Cameron, but he is playing a good game, so maybe he deserves to stay a while.

Izzy was pissed that the people she was pretending to have alliances with were pretending to have alliances with her.

Sweet? She was pissed.

Yes, too many parts to it and too many rounds. It could have been a lot shorter.

I agree. The voting becomes irrelevant when everyone is compelled to vote together. But at least this eviction will break the pattern of Cirie/Izzy/Felicia making the decision and handing it down to the others. (then switching , switching back) Cameron is causing a major shift in this season, and I have to give him credit.

Thank you to the feeds watchers for getting me excited about this show again. I dont watch the live feeds because I know it would be bad for my health, I would get obsessed and not sleep.

Often tv shows will have a segment where someone gets hit in the face with a pie and it's just a plate of whip cream. I appreciated that each pie was a unique variety. When I saw Izzy taking off her glasses to get ready for the pie, my thought was, leave them on. I'd much rather have to wash my glasses than get pie in my eyes. She was so confident at first. Then it dawned her. I loved the moment she realized she was on the block.

Yes Jared is the connection between the two groups, but his information only goes in one direction. He never tells the other group what Cirie, izzy, felicia are doing.

I watch Survivor, though I didn't when it first started. SO I probably DID see Cirie at some point. But I have no memory of her, as once the season is over I forget most of the players. Same with other competitive shows. I recall a few people, a few moments, but I can't keep them in my brain for very long.

I dont watch the feeds, but I read here to know what's going on. I have hated Cameron early on, and I must say that with what he is doing as HoH now... I hate him a little less.