Rebecca

I’m really starting to dislike Chelsea. STOP DRILLING YOUR FUCKING KID!!!!! She has no business putting all of this on Aubree. They’re legally allowed to come to lunch, try to get it changed if you want but stop trying to make Aubree feel some kind of way about it. Chelsea is an idiot for telling Aubree or Donna about possibly stopping the visits until she even found out if that’s what was going to happen! This is clearly NOT just about protecting Aubree and doing what’s best for her - if it was Chelsea would be glad that they are doing the lunch visits, especially since that is apparently the only way they know they’ll be able to see her. It also shows Donna really cares about having a relationship with Aubree, which obviously bothers Chelsea. There’s no way in hell they’ve going to agree to Cole adopting Aubree..I feel like it would be stupid to even ask at this point. I also feel that by her reaction she doesn’t really give a shit what Aubree thinks or feels about not seeing them. She’s clearly, to me, trying to set it up like it’s an “us” (Cole, Chelsea AND Aubree) vs “them” (the Linds). The subtext seemed to be, sorry those icky people are bothering you at school, Aubree. We’re going to try make it so that they can’t bother you anymore! I don’t think there’s any justification for how Chelsea treated Aubree this episode. I can I understand her wanting to punish Adam, and even his parents, but that doesn’t mean it’s right. Her attitude about the school visits really gave me insight into her motivation, it’s not just to protect Aubree, it’s also to punish the Linds and remove them from Aubree’s life entirely. Otherwise why not be happy that they see her on a limited time basis in a totally safe space?! Aubree is safe with them there and doesn’t have to feel as abandoned by her father and his family if they see her there. Isn’t that the best thing for her? I never, ever thought I’d even come close to “sticking up for Adam” and I’m still not, FUCK him...I’m actually sticking up for Aubree and her right to have a relationship with her relatives she’s known her whole life in a safe space like school and to not be interrogated by her mother about said visits. Chelsea literally asked Aubree NINE questions about the Linds in rapid succession right when Aubree got into the car. Not to mention all the comments that were not questions. And Aubree isn’t going to tell Chelsea that it’ll upset her to not see them, she already more than knows how Chelsea feels about it. Chelsea came off so badly this episode.

@Stusan That too! But, I’d particularly love to hear her justification for that clickbait usage.

I found one too but you can only see one picture of her and her husband and you can’t even see her friends, lol. There’s about 15 for Adam...why the hell would anyone want to catfish and pick him to pretend to be? *shudder*

Being in his brother’s wedding, Aubree obviously has a relationship with her uncles and aunts on that side, which was nice to see! It also helps us understand more that she has a real family on that side, even if Adam isn’t really involved. Hopefully they help to lessen that blow for her just by being in her life. Maybe seeing that Adam doesn’t do much with ANY of his family (he’s in zero pictures on any of the wives’ social media but they and their husbands are on each other’s) helps her to realize it’s HIM and he’s like that with everyone, not just her. Seeing all of this makes me feel like Cole adopting her and “taking her away” from the rest of the Linds would be a horrible idea. She’s an established member of the family, I can see now why she acts the way she does when they bring it up. There are pictures of Aubree playing with her cousins on her aunts’ social media as well. The Linds are a lot more than just Adam...I hope Chelsea realizes that! This also gives insight into why Adam gave up custody of Paislee yet didn’t do that in regard to Aubree. I feel like the rest of his family would pay his child support for him, if it came down to it, to keep her in their family and lives. His siblings all seem very family oriented. I was surprised that Chelsea follows all three wives on Instagram. It kind of bothers me that she knows they’re (seemingly) great people and that they have a relationship with her daughter but she still is pushing Aubree to be adopted by Cole and she’d love it if Aubree no longer wanted to be a Lind or have anything to do with them. Before seeing all of them it was easier to think they were all probably dirt bags or something and that Aubree might be better off without them but now I think it’s just ADAM himself that she’s better off without. I think the rest of the siblings are positive people to have in her life.

Since the Linds are pretty elusive to us all, I decided to see what I could find about them online. Most of info was originally posted in the latest episode thread but it makes more sense here and this breaks it down easier, plus some people probably aren’t looking at that thread much since it’s days old. Adam has 3 brothers. Darren: Most of the info on him is from his wife’s FB so it’s a bit scarce compared to the rest. He’s been married for 16 years and has 3 kids. He looks to be around 40. It appears he works in technology. His wife seems really lovely. They’ve lived in different states but I think they live in S.D. now. Robert: Another older brother. He’s 31 and is also married with 2 kids and one on the way. (That info comes from his wife’s FB, so no link.) He was also a baseball player in college. From 2011: http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=204776160 At the bottom of that link this info is provided: “Robert Lind is one of four children to Vern and Donna Lind. Born on January 26, 1988, in Sioux Falls, S.D. Has one older brother, Darren, and two younger brothers, Sam and Adam. His brother Sam is currently playing baseball for Central Arizona College. Currently majoring in biology.” So that also confirms that these are Adam’s brothers. He talks a little about his upbringing on this link: http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=205135595 There are kind of a lot of Rob/Bob/Robert Linds in that area so I can’t find what he does for a job currently. They have lived in different states too but are back in S.D. Sam: The youngest Lind child. He’s 28, lives in Arizona and is married to a (beautiful!) Brazilian woman. They got married a year ago in S.D. and Aubree appears to have been the flower girl in their wedding. Sam’s wife and Chelsea DeBoer follow each other on Instagram and she tagged Chelsea in the pictures Aubree is in. Adam wasn’t in any of the wedding pics, even though Aubree was. They had another wedding in Brazil and Adam is also missing from all those pics, though the rest of the family (not Aubree) was there. As of 2017 he’s a coach for his old college’s baseball team: http://www.vaquerosports.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170908wj83d7 He was a big baseball player in college and even played professionally before turning to coaching. More about him: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.argusleader.com/amp/12903201 Also, two of Adam’s brothers are married to women named Chelsea...but they both spell it differently! 😆 They all appear to be successful and normal and very unAdam-y. Chelsea follows all three of Adam’s brothers’ wives on Instagram, which is kinda surprising. The brothers themselves don’t have social media. One other thing is that most of them (his brothers and their wives) are super into fitness and lifting etc, like Adam is/was.

Massive digging has led to the fact that Adam has at least one actual brother. He’s 29 (but so is Adam? Is he a twin?! EDIT: Sam is actually 28, I think the thing below says 29 because he turns 29 this year still.) and named Sam. He’s newly married and lives in Phoenix. I found his wife’s Instagram, she is Brazilian. They got married in Brazil and it looks like Adam didn’t attend (there are pics of the rest of the family). They also had a wedding in SD a year ago and Aubree was there! Looks like she was the flower girl, the wife tagged Chelsea, she and Chelsea follow each other too. It doesn’t look like Adam attended that wedding either. (I don’t think I should link to her page because she’s not on the show or anything.) Some proof it’s his brother: EDIT: There’s definitely at least one (much...I think he’s 38/39) older brother (Darren) too, who is married with 3 kids. I found his wife's Facebook but again, I don’t think I’m allowed to link it. This older brother is kinda HOT! He’s been married for 16 years and they look extremely normal in every way. (I’m an obsessive researcher with no plans for 3 more hours...I’m going to learn what I can about these mysterious Linds.) EDIT 2: Another older brother. They all seem so normal. What the hell happened to Adam? Here’s Robert, since this is public and widely accessible: http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=204776160 He’s 31 and his bio on that site states that Donna and Vern have 4 kids - Adam, Sam, Darren and Rob. His bio also says that his brother, Sam, is (was, because this bio is from 2011) in college and plays(/played) baseball at school too. So all the other brothers are presumably college graduates. Adam is really the only absolute fuck up! From what I can tell the other three have had no issues. And no teen pregnancies. Here’s another article about Rob, he talks a little about his upbringing: http://www.georgiastatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12700&ATCLID=205135595 EDIT 3: Wow, here’s Sam, his younger brother, since this is also publicly available: http://www.vaquerosports.com/sports/bsb/2017-18/releases/20170908wj83d7 He’s the new coach, as of 2017, of his old college’s baseball team. He’s also better looking than Adam! Apparently he was an amazing baseball player during his time at the school and played professionally (see article)! The whole thing practically is about what a hard worker Sam is. His bio on the college site: http://vaquerosports.com/sports/bsb/coaches/Jon_Wente?view=bio (looks like the wrong link but it’s not...no clue why it says Jon Wente.) Another article about him: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.argusleader.com/amp/12903201 This all probably really bugs Adam! I’m really starting to think that Adam is the problem, not the Linds in general...otherwise the other sons would be messy as hell too. I wonder if Donna is just so flabbergasted about Adam and his behavior that she doesn’t know what to do? She’s definitely fucked up in her behavior regarding him but I have more empathy knowing that the other three aren’t like Adam. Sometimes bad kids happen to good people, I’m more inclined to think there’s some of that going on here now. I’m shocked, frankly, by this information, I would have assumed at least one of the other brothers would be “an Adam” too. I wonder how Adam gets along with his three much better looking, far more successful, hard working, normal life living brothers? Not well, I’m assuming. Too long, didn’t read: He has 3 normal, successful brothers. 😆 EDIT AGAIN: I’m at a grill out and since everyone is watching the stupid NCAA crap I’ve been in the corner still researching Linds... 🤓 #LiveYourBestLife Anyway, I just had to mention that 2 of the brothers are married to women named variant spellings of Chelsea!! How weird would it have been if Adam and Chelsea married?! 3 out of 4 brothers with the same wife’s name. Weird! Is that the only name in S.D.? So anyway, all 3 of Adam’s brothers are also married and 2 have kids.

Stassi has said a bunch of times that Katie works out way more than the rest of them...not sure if that means she works out once in awhile while the rest never do or if she’s going daily or what, though! Despite the fact I don’t think she’s fat, she doesn’t appear very toned. But neither do most of the cast. Lisa doesn’t have control over who is on the show, only who “works” in her actual restaurants.

I think Cole genuinely means it and finds all the positive comments a great bonus. I can’t deny that he appears to enjoy the attention (wouldn’t most people love everyone telling them how great they are?) but that doesn’t mean what he’s saying is a lie. He’s never expressed being unhappy in his marriage or talked about “heifers” for wives...unlike Tyler. I think it could all go to Cole’s head but I don’t know that I think it has already.

That’s a good point! She may be afraid to offend Adam for fear he’ll cut them out and disappear. That probably sounds like a win to most of us but she is his mother and loves him, somewhat inexplicably. Adam is also an addict so maybe he only shows up randomly on occasion and she was just happy he came there and wasn’t dead. I wish we knew more about Donna. It’s hard to assign motivations and feelings to someone when we don’t “know” them at all.

H is for “Have another shot of pancake, Roseanne!!”

I’ve only done a little research but I guess it’s not always that cut and dry. I’m not sure what other states this includes (probably not SD, in any case..) but Chelsea should consider moving to Colorado...it’s not that far.. https://info.legalzoom.com/legal-rights-stepparents-vs-real-parents-21583.html Sounds like this would qualify in “these jurisdictions.” I also think it helps the case that Cole is the involved father of Aubree’s brother and sister and Adam gave up custody of his other child. Plus, Aubree has basically never lived with Adam, except when he would mooch off Chelsea and live with her on and off early in Aubree’s life, whereas Cole has been consistently around and parenting the kids in their home for years. Adam can’t name her teacher, doctor or best friend. I bet Cole can, or at least knows some things like that about her.

I know they all post clickbait but I don’t recall seeing any like this! I rarely look at her story...does she do this regularly? It’s really fucked to make $ off the death of an infant because people will click it thinking it has something to do with this idiotic MTV franchise that she’s on. That’s all the info given on the first page of the “article” - there’s so much clicking and ads, I stopped after a few pages. She’s an asshole to use this story.

D is for Death. Sorry to be dark but some of the funniest episodes revolve around it. Roseanne and Jackie’s dad’s death: “So what you're saying is that, if she really loved him, she'd get the "White Rose", and if she doesn't... she'd get something with a twist tie, and the word "Hefty" on the side.” The death of the door to door salesman in their kitchen: Roseanne: “I think he's dead.” Dan: “Check again.” Roseanne: “I know how to count to zero.” (And, of course, Roseanne’s own death...not nearly as funny.)

She’s a lead too, isn’t she? What is the justification for paying her less? I could see if Sara and Lecy made the same and John and Laurie made more but I don’t see why the other 3 leads get more pay than the 4th. Anyone?

I’m with you on the confusion over Leah and Jeremy and their relationship. I think the twitter thing is confusing because the poster is inarticulate (say it ain’t so!) but they’re saying that Leah shouldn’t make cracks about Jenelle in regard to her burning Kailyn’s “gift” because if Jenelle ever said anything back Leah would just sit there and cry. They’re probably referring to how awkward Leah got when Briana was confronting her about Kailyn last season at the reunion from hell.

I think Cole enjoys the attention and he probably knows that Chelsea is into his public declarations too, so they’re both made happy by him posting such things. I wouldn’t be into it but if they are?

Nope.

What an ass. It is sad that their once close relationship is ruined but Sara doesn’t need someone in her life like this, no one does. She says she accepts the consequences and knows she did something wrong but she’s tried to blame HER actions on how many other people and things? Shutting up is the only positive thing she could do at this point.

Do the kids get paid at all for being on this show? I’ve never really seen anything clear about that. I know Amber had to set up a fund for Leah but are there any for the other kids? I’m just thinking..I wonder if Kristina’s older daughter feels bad at all that she’s not on the show? And if the kids on it do get paid or have trusts set up then it would be weird for one child in the family to not to have that. I don’t think it’s best for any of them to be on the show but it’s also kind of unfortunate if her daughter is missing out on college money or whatever, that her sisters are “earning.” I’m sure they’d come up with money to help her in that case and to even it out but it’s still a bit weird to me.

So in this particular case I’m sure it’s true because it’s Farrah and nothing is ever natural with her but I hate how The Daily Fail is always describing women as “flaunting” their bodies. A “celebrity” will just be walking down the street or on a beach normally, and might not even be aware there are cameras taking pictures, but they’re always “flaunting.” 😆 While I’m hating things, I also hate the trend of the “thong-ish” style swimming suits that are everywhere now. It doesn’t seem like Farrah is even in one of those suits in these pictures though...her suit looks more like high wasted bottoms that she has purposely ensconced as far into her ass as possible. And since her ass is comically large, most suits probably don’t cover much of that thing anyway! The comments are killin’ me (Kira! 500 for you if you get that like, 20 year old reference)!

Yes! But points lost for the run on sentences. 😆

Losing weight = work, paying (or allowing it to be recorded and thus, free) for some dude to suck out the fat = easy. Two paths diverge in the woods and Kailyn is taking the path with the least amount of effort on her part. How TM of her. 😆 What? You don’t think Farrah’s chicken legs and giant overhanging ass look good?! 🤣 🤮 Did she buy stock in Monistat or something? I’ve never seen anyone else use their mons pubis as their accented body part....some a highlight their legs or cleavage..Kailyn highlights her crotch. 👍🏻 Ok, her comment made me lol. But, what we want you to do is a) get pants that fit, if this is unthinkable to you, Kailyn, then b) get you a long shirt. It’s pretty rare for a comment dissing a “celebrity” to get more likes than the “celebrity” when they clap back..take the hint, Kailyn.

I think Chelsea should have gone to pick up Aubree and Cole should have stayed home with the kids. That was so weird...like, come get her because my precious Adam is here and I won’t tell him to leave even though this is the one weekend a month Aubree is here...oh, but can you bring her back when my precious Adam decides he’s ready to leave? 🙄 That was also weird...she was asking them about things that are already in her own family history. If Jace already has ADHD and members of Barb’s family allegedly have bipolar 1 disorder (not to mention schizophrenia, etc) why does it matter if Andrew’s family has these things as well? I think Jenelle is more borderline than bipolar (and also a sociopath) but I remember her saying she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at one point, before the molecules even.

I wonder if Katie hasn’t totally come to terms with the fact she is bigger than before, when she was rail thin, so she keeps trying to dress in ways she once could but they are no longer flattering. I think Brittany does this sometimes, she doesn’t always know how to dress for her giant boob implants either.

That baby is not facially gifted.