Rebecca

Did she look fat? I’m not making some kind of joke but wondering how she appears in person versus on tv since it’s hotly debated. Would you mind sharing your impression? Haha, I know this is awkward.

Even sober Adam should never be on the road again, with or without his daughter, IMO! He’s done so much damage when it comes to his reckless driving. (For example: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teen-mom-2-adam-lind-crashes-car-elderly-women-pulled-from-wreckage-massive-explosion-2014232/amp/) I think what you said about him deciding to drive with her is where the real issue lies. I don’t think the other things are all that likely to happen (still could, though) but I could completely see Adam deciding to drive her home or “just down the street for ice cream” maybe, and Donna texting Chelsea about it AFTER Adam was already driving with her and on the way. I gave Donna credit for calling right away and knowing Aubree had to leave because Adam showed up this week but I also feel like she could have told him to leave because she was present. I don’t buy that they didn’t know it was court ordered. I can also see how, in her mind, that kicking him out would be ridiculous and he should get to see Aubree for a minute, what’s the harm, etc. because I’m presuming Donna has coddled and enabled Adam to turn into what he is presently. But if he wanted to see her so badly he’d have shown up to the visitation center. I still think Cole was being a bit extra and unnecessarily dramatic about it all (“I didn’t know if shit was about to go down...” 🙄) but I do see why it was serious to Chelsea and Cole, given Adam’s track record of not caring about, well, anything, but especially rules. It’s probably easier to think it’s not that big of a deal for Adam to see Aubree at the Lind home for a little while when Aubree isn’t our kid/Adam isn’t our ex and we don’t have more insight and knowledge into just how terrible and potentially dangerous Adam is, like Chelsea does, and what we do know is pretty terrible already. This article is 3 years old! There’s plenty of new stuff to add. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehollywoodgossip.com/slideshows/adam-lind-9-times-he-proved-hes-the-worlds-worst-baby-daddy/amp/ I think it sucks that Roxanne kept that from her daughters for so long. That show really exposed some things about her. I’m really glad Roxanne has seemingly calmed down. I wonder if it’s being ill and recognizing what’s really important in life, plus like you said, Devoin has stepped it up. Based on screenshots from Snapchat I saw earlier on reddit he even seems to spend time with Stella! He took Nova for a manicure and pedicure and got a pedicure himself. I feel like he and Nova have bonded now and it won’t go back to how it was in the past with him barely involved. He seems to recognize her temperament is more like his own and that she needs him in her life. Plus, I think it would be harder since he’s developed a real relationship with the whole family at this point. I really hope I’m not wrong. Unless Brittany hasn’t been dating (which I doubt) she’s been smart to not bring them on camera! I know she’s not the main focus but if there were any drama there MTV would surely show it...we did get Kuzin Krystal Kustody drama on TMOG, after all. Brittany has also done well so far by not getting pregnant again “unexpectedly” like Briana. She’s already broken that cycle somewhat. I also read on Reddit that Devoin’s name isn’t actually pronounce Da-von like Briana, etc say it. Apparently his name is really pronounced like De-VOIN but Briana didn’t like it so she changed it. Lol? And now I officially read TM shit on reddit. Sigh.

I have a loooong drive tomorrow for work so I was looking at podcasts to listen to and I just looked at Leah’s... Jason was the guest today...it’s about how he and Leah stay happy in their relationship. Recorded in advance, clearly! EDIT: I just listened to the first few minutes and I can’t...it’s wayyyy too many people talking and laughing. It’s Leah, Jason and her two co-hosts. I listen to a lot of podcasts and it’s seriously always too many people after 3. Two is best, IMO. I’ve subscribed to her podcast for awhile but never really listened. Does anyone? As of now I’m out. @guilfoyleatpp I think it was just me being too “fairydusted” and sleep deprived to get it!! You are right though, it doesn’t look like mother and daughter. Much like when Leah would carry the twinses around when they were babies. I still wanna see more of mama Dawn’s kinfolk!! Can we get a Bein’ Mama Dawn?

Is this an example of their amazing acting skills?? What the hell is this? It’s obviouslu scripted but...why? These pictures are just so natural. 🙄 #commongenius.... 😆

Forever favorite what? Slothlike asshole? Also, suuuure, Jan @ Amber.

Tyler is a fan of using the n-word, so there’s that. When you grow up surrounded by ignorance, with no education otherwise, you’re most likely going to end up ignorant. The intolerance is ingrained in the culture so much that many of the people living in it don’t even recognize it. It’s moot though because like you said, it’s doubtful they even know the origin of the name.

Muslim isn’t a race. I just don’t see people like April and Butch teaching tolerance and the upper Midwest is loaded with people afraid of Islam and Muslims. It’s shocking to hear even well-educated people say the ignorant things I’ve heard...I can only assume uneducated people would also have prejudice. Thanks for the lesson, Tyler. 🙄 Though, he definitely knows about being self righteous.

@LibertarianSlut It is all opinion because neither of us have even seen her in person and people definitely look differently in person versus what is on TV. I also don’t think she appears overweight on TV. Bigger than she was, yes, but still not overweight. I think calling her overweight is insulting to actual overweight people, like when companies have women who are size 10 modeling “plus size” clothing. For the record I’m certain I’m larger than her and I don’t wear plus size clothing and am not considered medically overweight. We also don’t actually know her weight or BMI or what her doctor may have told her. She has gained some weight since the beginning of the show but that’s all we know. You think she looks overweight, I do not. Neither of us actually know her stats. Therefore it’s all opinion. We’re not going to change each other’s so I’m just going to stop now. 🙂

I agree. I think she also likes playing the victim and Jenelle makes a good “villain” generally. It’s weird though, this article is literally just about the “hell” Ryan “could be” going through with no support or facts about Ryan at all, it just talks about the past lawsuits against the gel. It seems like a stupid article to get in an uproar about. If anything it would possibly make people more sympathetic to Ryan’s situation. It’s like Mackenzie was waiting to pounce on something, anything, for attention.

I’m defending the fact that Katie isn’t fat because she’s not. She’s not even overweight according to a bunch of people who have seen her in person. I agree that she has horrendous fashion sense and she has no idea how to dress for her body. That doesn’t make her overweight. She’s surrounded by women who are size 0 and are way outside the norm for body size, it would be easy to look bigger around them. It’s actually insane to me that people think she’s overweight and is anywhere near 160 pounds. It kind of reminds me of when Kelly Osborne was chubby and she said that people would mail her clothes and things in size 14 or 16 and meanwhile she actually was a 10, she looked bigger on TV.

Here’s a good article about it, if you’re interested in investing more time into them 😆: https://teenmomjunkies.com/uncategorized/dejesus-daddy-drama Also, Briana and Brittany haven’t had contact with Briana’s father in many years, he’s never even met Nova and they don’t know where he is. I have to question how involved he ever was, especially when they moved to Florida like 15 years ago without him.

Kristen is also the only vegetarian in the group so when Scheana said that some of the enchiladas were chicken and some weren’t I have to assume she made the ones without chicken specifically for Kristen and then Kristen doesn’t even eat them? So fucking rude. As a vegetarian since I was 9 I found it really rude that Scheana went out of her way to accommodate Kristen and she didn’t even eat a bite! She should’ve choked down a few bites, at least. It’s also rude to go to a meal at someone’s house in general and say you’re full immediately before eating a thing there. But no one should expect Kristen to have any tact anyway.

I understand that it is a legal thing in PR but if they weren’t born there then there is nothing to say they followed it at all. I don’t get personal on here that often but I am also PR (not full, however) and my family didn’t follow any of those customs. That’s where I’m coming from. There’s also the part where Brittany didn’t even know she had a different father than Briana until 2016, and Roxanne said she met Briana’s father when Brittany was already 12 months old, so there must’ve been a name change in there after her birth because she didn’t even know “Soto” at the time of Brittany’s birth to give her that name. Bottom line to me is that these people are weird with last names and think nothing of changing theirs or their kid’s! Haha! I do wish we knew what last name Nova goes by currently.

Yep. I question whether or not Catelynn and Tyler even know this or not, though. Are they the ones going around saying it means moon? They’re that dumb, after all. I’m also kind of surprised that they’d chose a Muslim name intentionally. Not that I believe there’s anything wrong with being Muslim or not being Muslim and having a Muslim name but they seem ignorant enough to think it’s a problem.

Ah! That makes sense and I agree. It’s funny how many different ways a sentence can be interpreted.

I don’t know because none of the official stuff lists DeJesus for them at all, not even once and I looked at several things. I don’t remember what the podcast said exactly but I think they said that Briana said that DeJesus wasn’t actually her last name. Were they born in PR? They don’t seem very close to the culture, IMO. This is true in PR etc but not necessarily if they were born in the US. Has Roxanne even been married?

Right? “Fat” with a flat stomach and some curves.

The whole “rescue from the Linds” thing was a bit much. I understand that it’s not following the agreement so they were justified in leaving to get her immediately. I don’t think it should have been Cole alone who went to pick her up and (supposedly) said all of those things to Donna. There was no need for the swearing and dramatics. Just leave, pick her up and then contact your attorney or whoever, explain and show them the message. I agree the Linds don’t seem to understand that their son sucks compete ass in all ways, especially as a father so just contact the proper people and do what you need to do officially without all the theatrics, especially from Cole who seems to be enjoying his “perfect guy” role a bit too much. Yeah, Chelsea, your MOM is the only one pushing the adoption things. Sure, Jan. You ALL need to stfu about it. Aubree may NEVER want to be adopted. Imagine that. EDIT: @TheRealT Amazing post. There’s also the fact that Aubree herself is a Lind, both in blood and name and it might be damaging for her to hear bad things about people she is a part of. She might resent the fact that her siblings have the superior DeBoer dna at some point if they always act like the Linds are all horrible.

I’ve been asking on here. I promise to use it only for good!! An eye roll one too, pls!

So I heard on a podcast that Briana and Brittany’s last name isn’t even DeJesus, it’s Soto, which is the last name of Briana’s biological father and who Brittany thought was her father until revealed otherwise on Family Therapy. It definitely appears to be true. If you google Briana Dejesus Soto the first result is for “Novalicious Cooperation” (lol...did she mean Corporation?) and at the link you can see their tax filing or whatever. A screenshot is below with their address blurred out. So anyway, they have a different name than Roxanne. Therefore, the 5 of them living in that apartment will have 4 different last names between them. Are they trying to confuse the shit out of Nova with all of this? What name does she actually have herself, DeJesus or Soto? What does she write at school? And now they’re trying to change it for no real reason?!

Is Radar really that hard up for “stories” that they make a bogus article about Ryan from TM? Apparently! So there’s this article from Radar that has nothing to actually do with Ryan, but is about a few lawsuits filed against the jail he’s in over the years (I would guess that most jails and prisons have at least a few - valid and bullshit - over the years). Jenelle posted it as clickbait and now Mackenzie is in a tizzy! “I’m over this,” Mackenzie began her open letter to Jenelle — which she wrote over a screen cap of Jenelles Instagram post. “Honestly, I’m sick of seeing this click bait bullsh*t. I think you have enough drama going on in your own life to worry about what’s going on in mine.” Mackenzie then reveals that she has actually gone to bat for Jenelle in regards to her controversial husband David Eason, which is indeed a rare thing. “I’ve never even met you and I actually stood up for you when asked how I felt about your actions and decisions supporting your husband. Well b*tch this is mine and I will support and defend him.” Mackenzie concludes with a bit of snark: “But hey, anything to make a buck, huh?” Lol at Mackenzie trying to act like she expected more from Jenelle! She posts clickbait about everybody. Mackenzie is really trying to get some positive comments and likes for once by starting drama with the person hated most on the franchise. This article sums up the jail lawsuit clickbait article and the Mackenzie and Jenelle “drama” nicely all in one place: https://starcasm.net/teen-mom-mackenzie-edwards-attacks-jenelle-eason-over-ryan-edwards-clickbait/

Until like, Lisa or Ariana start alluding to James doing this “thing” that no one has given much of a hint about I’m going to mostly ignore it. The cast admitted themselves that they were all trying hard to get Scheana off the show in season one and they didn’t even hate her like they hate James. They don’t want any “outsiders” on the cast and they hate him for other reasons on top of that. They’ve been trying to get him off but nothing has worked...so maybe they just decided the MeToo movement would be their way. It could easily be them taking some bit of gossip and running with it because they want him off the show. They’re unreliable narrators. If there were proof you’d think it would be anonymously leaked with this many people supposedly knowing about whatever they’re trying to get us to believe he did. @LibertarianSlut Stassi has said more than once on podcasts that Beau likes drama more than she does. She said he’s one of her favorite people to gossip with. Maybe he genuinely enjoys it. I find him boring.

I think it’s what others have said - wanting to kill the wholesomeness that Lala lost long ago but also I think Lala is pissed that Raquel stays with James. I think she wants James to be alone and it pisses lala and the witches off that Raquel won’t leave him. They don’t want anyone to be on his side. That was nuts. How could she possibly think that meant Lisa was warming to her - what? Lisa barely held back her contempt. Kristin just showed she has literally ZERO awareness. This. I listen to a bunch of VR podcasts and most of the hosts and guests live in LA and have met the cast a bunch. Even those who HATE Katie admit that she’s not overweight in the slightest. Most of them even say she has the best body of all the women. I think that’s crazy. She’s insecure because everyone keeps talking about her body, that would make anyone insecure. Women generally can’t maintain rail thin “LA physiques” past age 30 or so without seriously depriving themselves and we know that she was using Adderall and things in the earlier seasons. Her earlier look was unnatural.

Leah doesn’t have an older sister, she’s the oldest. I never thought Victoria looked older but maybe some people do. I would love to see Delta Dawn’s sister, if one exists. I want to know if her...look...is all genetics.

I don’t remember ever seeing Dawn’s sister, was she on the show?