Daytime Emmys: This Year, It's Actually on TV…Oops, Spoke Too Soon

[HeatLifer]

This makes me smile.

Yeah, it was sweet. I just listened to her part and she said JT called her today and said he was proud of her and Kim called her "my little booger." Lol.

Here's the link to the podcast btw: http://michaelfairmansoaps.com/news/listen-now-soap-nation-live-with-michael-fairman-daytime-emmy-nominations-special-2/2016/03/24/#more-87079

Edited March 25, 2016 by HeatLifer

[BlackMamba]

I'm still in slight shock Tyler Christopher was nominated. Who saw that one coming? And Maura West... I thought this was a down year for her especially after Ron put her ass in a dark wig and Ava was snowing everyone, particularly cuckoo Morgan.

[backhometome]

 

Tyler (who talked about Becky, NB, Genie, TG, JJ)

Aww lmao Tyler is forever a JJ stan. 

[UYI]

I wonder if Tony will even be arsed to leave Amsterdam to go the Emmys this year. Part of me hopes he says "Bye bitch" and stays put. 

[tvgoddess]

When you only have to submit one episode out of an entire year, it's not difficult to find something that will be Emmy-worthy especially for the high caliber actors/actresses.

 

I believe that Maura submitted the scenes where she asked Silas to end her life and the one where she wakes up. But I agree it was definitely a down year for her. Her material was crap and I fully blame that on Ron. And I didn't expect her to get the nomination, I was satisfied with the pre-nom. Bottom line though, if you have a good reel you'll probably get the nom.

Edited March 25, 2016 by tvgoddess

[dubbel zout]

the scenes where she asked Silas to end her life

 

Oh, lord, that brings up my rage blackout over that stupid, selfish bint having one bad dose of chemo and wanting to end it. Talk to me when you've had at least 16 rounds, Ava. GAH.

 

From articles I read, the tone was that the year streaming was tried, it was considered a flop.

 

I think that was mostly due to the red carpet interviewers who kept wanting to rape poor Ryan Paevey. They were...inappropriate, to wildly understate things.

Edited March 25, 2016 by dubbel zout

[LegalParrot81]

 

I wonder if Tony will even be arsed to leave Amsterdam to go the Emmys this year. Part of me hopes he says "Bye bitch" and stays put.

 

He's been in LA as recently as 2-3 weeks ago (per NLG) so <heavy sigh> he'll probably show up for the Emmys. 

[dubbel zout]

As long as TG stays away from GH, he can be in L.A. for as long as he wants, AFAIC. I think it's respectful that he shows up to the Emmys. He's a nominee. I don't even mind if he wins. Just stay retired from GH.

 

ETA: Some of this probably belongs in the UO thread. Heh.

Edited March 25, 2016 by dubbel zout

[LeftPhalange]

Why doesn't the show air on one of the networks that has a soap?

[dubbel zout]

Probably because ads are hard to sell, and the ratings are terrible.

[LeftPhalange]

I get that, but you would think one of these multi-billion dollar companies would just take the loss for one night so people could watch their shows win awards. 

[WendyCR72]

I get that, but you would think one of these multi-billion dollar companies would just take the loss for one night so people could watch their shows win awards. 

 

I...kind of agree with the companies now. Maybe if there were still something like 10 soaps, sure. But we're down to 4, the ratings are terrible, and it's now like a participation event.

 

If it should be shown, put it back on in the afternoon and have a luncheon. (I think that was how it was done when the Daytime Emmys started?)

[FilmTVGeek80]

 

I...kind of agree with the companies now. Maybe if there were still something like 10 soaps, sure. But we're down to 4, the ratings are terrible, and it's now like a participation event.

 

But it's not even just about the soaps. I think the awards for soaps make up less than half the awards that are usually handed out on the telecast. Actually famous people like Ellen Degeneres vie for these awards. And I don't agree totally that it's a participation event. Sure for best show it's basically 'you're still on the air, here's a nomination' but there are still a number of actors eligible for an award. There were a lot of people in the GH thread complaining that Laura Wright was snubbed. If it was just a participation event, everyone would be nominated.

[tvgoddess]

I think they've even added more non-soap categories in the last few years.

[FilmTVGeek80]

 

I think they've even added more non-soap categories in the last few years.

Yeah. It's not just best talk show now. They are different types of talk show categories, like whatever category "The Chew" competes. I think courtroom shows have their own category.

 

Stacey

[tvgoddess]

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/81750/why-the-daytime-emmys-will-not-be-televised-this-year/

[UYI]

As long as TG stays away from GH, he can be in L.A. for as long as he wants, AFAIC. I think it's respectful that he shows up to the Emmys. He's a nominee. I don't even mind if he wins. Just stay retired from GH.

 

ETA: Some of this probably belongs in the UO thread. Heh.

 

I agree, I just didn't know if he would care now that he's retired/his distaste for Ron (oh, sorry, "The Writer") and somewhat towards Frank? He didn't badmouth him like "The Writer", but I don't know he much he really likes him, either.

 

 

But it's not even just about the soaps. I think the awards for soaps make up less than half the awards that are usually handed out on the telecast. Actually famous people like Ellen Degeneres vie for these awards. And I don't agree totally that it's a participation event. Sure for best show it's basically 'you're still on the air, here's a nomination' but there are still a number of actors eligible for an award. There were a lot of people in the GH thread complaining that Laura Wright was snubbed. If it was just a participation event, everyone would be nominated.

 

I agree. Now, granted, the soaps were obviously always the biggest draw, and their relevancy has decreased in recent years, but there are game shows/cartoons/daytime reality type shows that get recognition there, too. Hell, a Emmy ceremony with those shows alone might raise its relevancy several hundred points with people, sad as it sounds. The broadcast networks might wind up interested, again, because then the imbalance between them over the number of soaps per network would be gone (NBC took itself out of rotation to air the show long before the other two networks, because of the large number of years spent snubbing their shows--the last few times they hosted, they might as well have acknowledged that they were celebrating the other networks soaps, they had so few nominations--and last telecast it in 2004).

Edited March 26, 2016 by UYI

[RachelRhae73]

Why doesn't a cable channel such as POP air the Emmys, don't they re-air DOOL episodes?

I haven't watched the daytime Emmys since 2004, so I'm out of the loop, but to me it would make sense for a channel such as E! , POP, heck even Bravo

[UYI]

POP aired them last year, so maybe that will happen again this year.

[peachmangosteen]

In the article tvgoddess linked a couple posts up it says that POP was going to air them again this year but a money issue came up at the last minute and they're not going to anymore. And I guess since it was such a last minute thing they didn't really have a chance to try to get them aired some place else.

[Melgaypet]

Bringing this over from the episode thread...

 

 

Yeah, I was about to type exactly that. I've long thought the Younger Actor/Actress categories should be 18 and under, but with the Emmy's ever-increasing irrelevance, there's not much point in changing the rules.

 

 

I kind of get it, though, because there are usually many more twentysomethings (or were in the past) than those below 18. There have always been a few nominees here and there under 18, of course, but that depends on when a soap actually wants a soap kid to do more than just come in the kitchen for cookies twice a week or something. Even having actual teens playing teens on soaps isn't always a guarantee. 

 

And making the Younger Actor/Actress category under 18 would have made the already crowded Supporting categories even more so, yeah, I can understand the practical issues. But it's always seemed unfair to me - you end up with these Bechtel-Craig situations where you have fully adult actors competing against pre-pubescent children. It's so weighted in the adults' favor - as you said, a child actor is unlikely to get the screentime or Emmy-bait storyline that an young adult would, much less be able to better act it out. It happens - Jonathan Jackson, for one example, won his first Emmy at what, 12 or 13? - but it's unusual. Maybe a solution would have been would have been to make an Outstanding Child Actor/Actress category for the 18 & unders and leave the Younger Actor/Actress for 18-25 age range, but there's no point in making the change now. It just is something that has always bugged me a little.

Edited March 26, 2016 by Melgaypet

[UYI]

Kim won her first Emmy in 1989 when she was eleven (and I was around 3 or 4 months old, LOL), but what story was it for? The Grant Putnam story where Robin was catatonic for awhile after her grandmother was killed right in front of her/Anna was held hostage? 

Edited March 26, 2016 by UYI

[Tiger]

In the article tvgoddess linked a couple posts up it says that POP was going to air them again this year but a money issue came up at the last minute and they're not going to anymore. And I guess since it was such a last minute thing they didn't really have a chance to try to get them aired some place else.

The actual Academy that gives out the awards doesnt want to pay to televise it, whining thst their a 'non-profit', all while paying their officers huge salaries.

[ulkis]

Kelly Thiebaud has our back:

 

kelly thiebaud ‏@kellythiebaud  Mar 24
Really hope the #NATAS finds a way 2 air the #DaytimeEmmys ! If not,I'll be blowing up my insta and Twitter feed with videos!!

[dubbel zout]

Someone tweet her that she has to PROMISE to shoot the moment Brydog loses.

[Tiger]

Who is going to tweet the video of Thighbolt rushing up on stage and going "Bechtel, imma let u finish, but Bry-dog had one of the best performances of all time!"

C'mon, whose got me? Laura, where you at?

[UYI]

Kelly Thiebaud has our back:

 

kelly thiebaud ‏@kellythiebaud  Mar 24

Really hope the #NATAS finds a way 2 air the #DaytimeEmmys ! If not,I'll be blowing up my insta and Twitter feed with videos!!

 

[Chairperson Meow]

Bruh. We should put in, like, what.. fifty cents a poster? We could get a ticket for a member? I nominate Bryan Craig's #1 Fan, Ulkis.

[HeatLifer]

Someone tweet her that she has to PROMISE to shoot the moment Brydog loses.

"be sure to record Nickey B's acceptance speech, gurl."

[Chairperson Meow]

Kelly Thiebaud has our back:

 

kelly thiebaud ‏@kellythiebaud  Mar 24

Really hope the #NATAS finds a way 2 air the #DaytimeEmmys ! If not,I'll be blowing up my insta and Twitter feed with videos!!

I just thought of something. So, say Bryan Craig does win, or NB. And Tequan Richmond moves on, has a great career, fufills his potential, wins real awards. What's funnier? The shit storm bs rant from BC and KT that suddenly Frank and co are like "Congrats on your Golden Globe, former GH star Tequan Richmond " and BC and KT are like "I beat him for the Emmy that year! Haaaaa!" Or BC loses and then BC and KT are delusional and believe that BC can win awards too because Tequan Richmond has a career.

[Oracle42]

I dunno, I'm pretty sure BC had potential when he started - but between the shit writing and total lack of rehearsal? I haven't seen anyone except JE & LW turning in quality work on a consistent basis

[ulkis]

I dunno, I'm pretty sure BC had potential when he started - but between the shit writing and total lack of rehearsal? I haven't seen anyone except JE & LW turning in quality work on a consistent basis

 

I think all the praise went to his head too. He probably thinks all he has to do is bring it up to 11 and he's golden. And he has trouble remembering his lines, that's something I noticed even when I was praising his performances.

[Tiger]

I dunno, I'm pretty sure BC had potential when he started - but between the shit writing and total lack of rehearsal? I haven't seen anyone except JE & LW turning in quality work on a consistent basis

I tbought he had amazing chemistry with and was excellent opposite Maura, but he was terrible from the jump with everyone else, especially Mo.

[Oracle42]

I thought it was sad that Aaron Rivkin!Morgan was SORAS'd into a donkey but I thought BC was good casting as Sonny/Carly's son - especially after he lost Jax as a stepfather

Edited April 1, 2016 by Oracle42

[dubbel zout]

I tbought he had amazing chemistry with and was excellent opposite Maura

Same here. It helped that he had some decent writing when that relationship started.

 

His intro was horrendous, as is so often the case on this show—I can't bear to reference it, it makes me shudder to this day—and I think he did let the praise go to his head. I also think looking to Mo as a mentor is probably a mistake. LW or MW would be better, IMO, as they consistently deliver day in and day out, no matter how crappy the writing. They each have their tics, of course, but at least they can remember all their lines and don't check out of scenes when it isn't going their way.

 

And, of course, having Kelly Thiebaud as his deluded, cheerleading fiancée isn't helping things. It's sweet she's so supportive, but she's feeding the beast in the worst way. 

[tvgoddess]

Yeah, I agree that he definitely had potential when he started or mainly when he was working opposite Maura back in 2013 and early to mid 2014. I think he genuinely earned his Emmy nom for 2013, and I do think he should have won that year. Lots of people and bloggers thought so. But once he started copying Mo's worst tics, it was all over. 

 

Plus, all his real life Twitter antics just really made it hard to support him, even when he was doing okay.

[Chairperson Meow]

I think BC, even if he could book a CW or MTV show, probably screwed himself with his twitter. Dude needs to dump KT, sell his Porche, and get a publicist. Hire a really good PR firm. Get in a fake, Hollywood relationship with a young singer/model/reality star/actress. Learn how to stfu. That is, if he wants a career. If he's fine doing what hhe's doing, then great. Mo seems like the worst mentor ever. The first thing any smart adult actor would've said would be is "Please stop your girlfriend from doing social media. You're a young, attractive male actor. You need to appear available. Also, stop acting like an asshole. And don't talk about marriage. "

[tvgoddess]

A small update - 

 

http://cbs.soapsindepth.com/posts/2016-daytime-emmys-broadcast-hope-97382

[ulkis]

 

Bryan's emmy reel

 

I can't find the others

[tvgoddess]

Here's all of the Younger Actor ones - http://michaelfairmansoaps.com/news/43rd-daytime-emmys-watch-outstanding-younger-actor-in-a-drama-series-nominated-performances/2016/04/04/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[ulkis]

Thank you!

Tequan's pornstache is kinda distracting from his work in his first episode.

 

Nicholas Bechtel's second clip was actually a pretty good choice.

[tvgoddess]

Eww at the Sonny worship in these Spencer clips. But it's interesting seeing all these kids at his party, which I completely didn't remember. He could have gone on Spring Break with any one of these kids.

 

I've watched all the reels now. My UO is that BC could very easily win. It's a good reel, and no one else has anything like it. TR is strong competition, the other three are lightweights. So it will come down to those two.

Edited April 5, 2016 by tvgoddess

[Chairperson Meow]

I actually think Pearson Fode and Tequan Richmond are dark horses to win. I haven't regularly watched B&B in a bit, so imo what PF has on his side is that he's exactly what longterm viewers (I watched as a kid and remember OG Caroline/Ridge/Brooke and when Thomas was born) can picture Ridge's son growing up to be. He's a Forrester. He also held his own in the reel with Thornsten Kaye and is a vast improvement over the last Thomas. The reel had a soapy feel to it and wasn't overdone. TRi's actually made me tear up a bit because he's a good crier. It showed a great range of emotions. There's not much to say because Tequan Richmond is such a great actor and has been consistently robbed in the category because other soap actors got more writing. Since Massey and Freddie Smith are gone, this really could be Tequan's year. Especially since he has the Showtime pilot. BC's reel was good, but I still think even Max Ehrich beat him. NB's was just no.

[tvgoddess]

There were too many people in Max Ehrich's. Bryan's had a much more condensed and focused feel. I wasn't impressed with Pierson Fode at all, but I've never seen his work and never have watched B&B.

[Chairperson Meow]

I liked the soapy feel of PF's, plus it was like one big scene. I felt like I could jump into the story, which I appreciated and it made things I knew from the past that were either stupid, badly acted, or retconned make sense. It also felt more iintimate. He also was able to go toe to toe (imo) with a very good scene partner. Max Ehrich, you could tell from just his parts, is a good actor, but carrying scenes with crap writing and crap acting (the first half) might probably not get him an Emmy. But since I think he's done with Y&R too I'd possibly consider him and Tequan contenders just because it's probably their last years collectively on their shows and I think that'd award them. BC's reel is good, but exposes him as a one-trick pony. It also exposes his tendencies to rely on his screen partners to carry him, as opposed to going back and forth with them. NB's is too much "omg this is a cute kid!" They should have chosen when Spencer saw his mother after the Nurses Ball or something like that. What they chose was too campy, considering you have Tequan Richmond tearing your freaking heart out in his reel.

[ulkis]

Pierson Fode's ended in a bit of a whimper though.

[Chairperson Meow]

Yeah, it should have ended after the punch, but I don't know if there are time requirements.

[backhometome]

Tbh as much as I hate saying it I think BC is going to win. Hopefully I`m wrong because I want to see a certain couple explode on social media. 

[ulkis]

If he wins, it will still be hilarious, so I'm good either way, although him losing would be funnier.

[tvgoddess]

 

Max Ehrich, you could tell from just his parts, is a good actor, but carrying scenes with crap writing and crap acting (the first half) might probably not get him an Emmy. But since I think he's done with Y&R too I'd possibly consider him and Tequan contenders just because it's probably their last years collectively on their shows and I think that'd award them.

 

If they're not going to reward Alison Sweeney after 20 years, I doubt they'd care much about two young guys who have only been around a little while.

 

Sadly, I think Tequan won't get recognized because of the obvious.