S18.E11: Devilish Desserts

[preeya]

The competition heats up with only seven chefs left in the competition. During the challenge, guest judge and renowned pastry chef and chocolatier Valerie Gordon cracks down hard on both teams' take on dessert. The dinner service starts without a hitch, but one team's lack of communication causes pure chaos in the kitchen, resulting in a dramatic elimination.

[galaxychaser]

Please send Trev and Bret home. They both suck.

[preeya]

9 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Please send Trev and Bret home. They both suck.

Unfortunately, it'll only be one of them.

[galaxychaser]

Well one bozo down! 

Bret is next. 

[tinkerbell]

There were steaks and lamb that Gordon said were "OVERCOOKED!!"  and they looked great to me. looked to be between medium and med-rare. 

But what do I know.   

I hate Bret - he's vile. 

[Mystery]

I felt bad for Trev, but what was he trying to do with his talk with Christina before service? Do an end run around the show and get hired at "her" restaurant in any position? I guess I can understand the desire but coming before the service as it did, it came across as not caring (about or not having confidence in) that night's performance. 

Heather had no business yapping about how a real chef can tell when protein is done. 

[mertensia]

I detest Trev and still think he's a misogynistic jerk, but thank you for being just as irritated by Bret' s "I'm Italian! Heritage!!" schtick as we are. I wonder if Bret said that as he was being arrested.

 Heather's sourpuss face is really unattractive. 

Poor Matto. He so desperately wanted both gone.

[xcrayon2215x]

Trev deserved to go, Bret really should be next. Ariel is looking like she is going to be a winner, though Motto could be the winner since a man has not won since Scott.

[Booklady1017]

11 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

Please send Trev and Bret home. They both suck.

GR should have sent both of them home. I was hoping that was the case. 

I’m leaning towards Morto or Ariel winning too. 

[Rammchick]

So three vets and three rookies are left.  What a coincidence.

[AZChristian]

I was only half-watching.  Did they taste Heather's dessert after the competition and determine it to be the best of everything, even though the other women voted to exclude it?  That's a typical HK ploy.

[preeya]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I was only half-watching.  Did they taste Heather's dessert after the competition and determine it to be the best of everything, even though the other women voted to exclude it?  That's a typical HK ploy.

If they did, it wasn't shown to us.

[Perkie]

3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Did they taste Heather's dessert after the competition and determine it to be the best of everything, even though the other women voted to exclude it?  That's a typical HK ploy.

They would only have done that if the ladies had lost, you know, to rub their noses in it.  

"If only you would have brought up Heather's dessert, you would have won.  Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear"

Edited January 12, 2019 by Perkie

[cooksdelight]

Trev was a sweaty mess. So glad he’s outta there. And if I keep seeing people touching food with their bare hands I may throw up.

[jewel21]

I just hope Bret is next. 

[mojoween]

Passion doesn’t fill my belly, Trev.  I’d rather eat anything Motto cooks than anything you’ve been within ten feet of.

”I really dislike this.”  Valerie Gordon was awesome.

[Red Bridey]

Isn't this the second time Kenae's (?) choice for a dish has been bad?  I guess we'll never know if Heather's bread pudding was good or not, but on an earlier episode Kenae won the war to choose a dish that DID not beat the one that she determined wasn't good enough.  She's only lucky the men's desserts were so totally terrible.  And even though I dislike Heather and her magic "protein cooking ability, " I would never let KENAE win an argument again.

Bret's face is SO UGLY I can't even stand it.  Thank god for fast forward because that is how I save my eyes.

Trevor is just useless.  Seriously, I just can't with him.  His palate is terrible because he chainsmokes on camera all the time.  Good riddance!

Motto? Meh. 

I would love to order beef Wellington at a restaurant because it is a dish I will never try to make myself, but seeing the endless failures of these cooks to get it right...I can see why it's nowhere to be found on any of my local restaurants. 

The lamb looked fine to me.  I like lamb a lot, but I do want it to be fairly cooked, not rare.  My steak can be bloody, but not lamb.

[preeya]

3 minutes ago, Red Bridey said:

And even though I dislike Heather and her magic "protein cooking ability, "

 

The M.O. of this show is once someone makes a specific comment about something, you can bet with a safe level of certainty, it will come back to bite them in the ass. Great job cooking those steaks, Heather.

[galaxychaser]

Trev it’s my lifestyle x10 made me cringe. Dude you can’t cook and your palate is dead. 

[Booklady1017]

On 1/12/2019 at 10:14 AM, Rammchick said:

So three vets and three rookies are left.  What a coincidence.

Yeah seems a bit suspicious. 

On 1/12/2019 at 12:02 PM, AZChristian said:

I was only half-watching.  Did they taste Heather's dessert after the competition and determine it to be the best of everything, even though the other women voted to exclude it?  That's a typical HK ploy.

I wish we would have seen them trying her dessert to see if it was better than the other woman contestants. It seems kind of odd that she would bow out of the challenge like that.

22 hours ago, Perkie said:

They would only have done that if the ladies had lost, you know, to rub their noses in it.  

"If only you would have brought up Heather's dessert, you would have won.  Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear"

That does sound like something they would have done.

2 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

Isn't this the second time Kenae's (?) choice for a dish has been bad?  I guess we'll never know if Heather's bread pudding was good or not, but on an earlier episode Kenae won the war to choose a dish that DID not beat the one that she determined wasn't good enough.  She's only lucky the men's desserts were so totally terrible.  And even though I dislike Heather and her magic "protein cooking ability, " I would never let KENAE win an argument again.

Bret's face is SO UGLY I can't even stand it.  Thank god for fast forward because that is how I save my eyes.

Trevor is just useless.  Seriously, I just can't with him.  His palate is terrible because he chainsmokes on camera all the time.  Good riddance!

Motto? Meh. 

I would love to order beef Wellington at a restaurant because it is a dish I will never try to make myself, but seeing the endless failures of these cooks to get it right...I can see why it's nowhere to be found on any of my local restaurants. 

The lamb looked fine to me.  I like lamb a lot, but I do want it to be fairly cooked, not rare.  My steak can be bloody, but not lamb.

I like Heather better than Kenae even though Kenae is more fun to watch. I feel Kenae is one of those one trick ponies. Heather has been a bit of a disappointment but she's stronger than Kenae. 

I will so happy when Bret leaves. Adios! 

Motto is good though. Yeah that Beef Wellington looks tough to make. 

[tinkerbell]

4 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

I would love to order beef Wellington at a restaurant because it is a dish I will never try to make myself, but seeing the endless failures of these cooks to get it right...I can see why it's nowhere to be found on any of my local restaurants. 

I have had it and it's great.   The thing is, once it's prepared - the steak, other ingredients are encased in pastry, the only thing they can get wrong on Hells Kitchen is the amount of time to cook it. The wellingtons are prepared ahead of time.  And  that is all they have to do - get the time right.  If it's supposed to be done in 30 minutes, and they take it out of the oven in 30 minutes, there is no way to tell if it's cooked to the proper temp without cutting it.   Gordon cuts it and declares it either RAW!  or OVERDONE!  but there's no way for the person taking it out of the oven to determine that.  

I assume at most restaurants that serve wellington, it's the same -  a certain number of minutes in the oven and a pre-determined temperature.  Maybe on HK, someone messes with the oven temp to make sure they get messed up. 

[galaxychaser]

Yes contestants said before that production team messes with stoves/ovens.

[Mystery]

1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:

I have had it and it's great.   The thing is, once it's prepared - the steak, other ingredients are encased in pastry, the only thing they can get wrong on Hells Kitchen is the amount of time to cook it. The wellingtons are prepared ahead of time.  And  that is all they have to do - get the time right.  If it's supposed to be done in 30 minutes, and they take it out of the oven in 30 minutes, there is no way to tell if it's cooked to the proper temp without cutting it.   Gordon cuts it and declares it either RAW!  or OVERDONE!  but there's no way for the person taking it out of the oven to determine that.  

I assume at most restaurants that serve wellington, it's the same -  a certain number of minutes in the oven and a pre-determined temperature.  Maybe on HK, someone messes with the oven temp to make sure they get messed up. 

When two of the Wellingtons were bad last night, Gordon pointed out that the "test cuts" (I think he said??) were closer to done, and they cooked them another minute or so and used them. I was wondering if maybe there's always a test cut but I never noticed it before. I don't pay too much attention to the wellingtons, because I don't like mushrooms. 

[Eolivet]

10 hours ago, mojoween said:

Passion doesn’t fill my belly, Trev.  I’d rather eat anything Motto cooks than anything you’ve been within ten feet of.

THIS. When Trev kept going on about how much passion he had, how much more fight he had than anyone, how much he wanted this, I kept saying to the TV, "but you can't cook!!!"

[justawatcher]

I'd like to change my winner prediction.

Spoiler

I think it's going to be Heather. Here's why: 1) Jocky going on lunch with the women seemed like a second interview after the one that Christina seemed to do in Vegas. 2) we didn't see Heather's dish go up there so it must have been hell and that's why they pulled it 3) the cute thing with her son and mommy and me cookware 4) he can't do a veteran vs rookies and have three runner ups and not have one of them win. Obviously it's not going to be Bret and Motto has spent no camera time with either Jocky or Christina, so it's lining up to be a woman. Kenae and Mia are too close in age, looks, and perkiness to Michelle to do another one. Going with Heather.

Brett, however, will get a black jacket. Kenae does not get one- that's my guess.

[Colorado David]

lol GR's watch has a yellow face, i wonder if it's a smiley face?? eta: got a better closeup, it's not a smiley face. that'd be too funny tho.

ugh meltdown - none of the guys deserve to win. i'm fine as long as kanae doesn't win, she needs to grow up some. - she flamed out on that salmon, and your attitude becomes take that salmon away from me? YEAH don't try to redeem yourself, bail on it so someone else has to pick up your dumb slack.

Edited January 15, 2019 by Colorado David

[preeya]

36 minutes ago, Colorado David said:

lol GR's watch has a yellow face, i wonder if it's a smiley face?? eta: got a better closeup, it's not a smiley face. that'd be too funny tho.

ugh meltdown - none of the guys deserve to win. i'm fine as long as kanae doesn't win, she needs to grow up some. - she flamed out on that salmon, and your attitude becomes take that salmon away from me? YEAH don't try to redeem yourself, bail on it so someone else has to pick up your dumb slack.

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I'm of the belief that GR's main criteria are leadership and maturity. Those traits cannot be taught. He can mold and solidify their cooking skills, but that can be done for anyone. A true leader is what he's honing in on.

[BusyOctober]

It's been a toss up in the past whether "winners" have been able to collect their prize/position in a GR establishment.  Some past winners have done it, but every season I see a bunch of line cooks who have no business being on a made for TV reality show, let alone in a sanitary, operational, public restaurant kitchen.  If I saw Brett "Magilla Gorilla" in the back of the house (or God forbid, FOH!!!), I would get up and leave.  Same for Brett.  They just look clueless and dirty and sweaty.  Not to mention most of their taste buds have been annihilated by smoking.  The thought of someone's hands smelling of tobacco, and has nicotine stained fingers and teeth preparing my food just makes me want to hurl.  Now, realistically, I know I have eaten in fine dining restaurants and local diners who have smokers and sweaty goons in the kitchen.  However, what I haven't seen with my own eyes, can't hurt me!

[funky-rat]

On ‎1‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 5:21 PM, Mystery said:

When two of the Wellingtons were bad last night, Gordon pointed out that the "test cuts" (I think he said??) were closer to done, and they cooked them another minute or so and used them. I was wondering if maybe there's always a test cut but I never noticed it before. I don't pay too much attention to the wellingtons, because I don't like mushrooms. 

They cut the ends off first to see what it looks like inside.  I would love to try Beef Wellington but no one serves it around here, and it has mushrooms inside - I have a sensitivity to mushrooms.

I laughed at Trev's "I'm healthy!" crap, when he chain smokes.

[Colorado David]

1 hour ago, BusyOctober said:

It's been a toss up in the past whether "winners" have been able to collect their prize/position in a GR establishment.  Some past winners have done it, but every season I see a bunch of line cooks who have no business being on a made for TV reality show, let alone in a sanitary, operational, public restaurant kitchen.  If I saw Brett "Magilla Gorilla" in the back of the house (or God forbid, FOH!!!), I would get up and leave.  Same for Brett.  They just look clueless and dirty and sweaty.  Not to mention most of their taste buds have been annihilated by smoking.  The thought of someone's hands smelling of tobacco, and has nicotine stained fingers and teeth preparing my food just makes me want to hurl.  Now, realistically, I know I have eaten in fine dining restaurants and local diners who have smokers and sweaty goons in the kitchen.  However, what I haven't seen with my own eyes, can't hurt me!

well yeah, rarely seeing gloves on chefs touching food - i put this up to just this being a show, not reality. i'm sure they are coached to be over the top in their talking heads segments, which helps zero in seeing them as professional - it plays up the petty reality show emotionalism and soundbites.

The smoking thing is interesting - those who work in the restaurant industry, is smoking a majority for chefs, or not so much?  The worse thing for me would be someone with a nasty cold/flu bug fixing my food, either prep or on the line - you have to breathe, and I know your exhales are floating over my ingredients/plates at one time or other. I have never seen any cooks wearing facemasks. I guess in the food industry we are cool not to have the same levels of sanitary as operating rooms.

[mojoween]

I was spacing out when Heather was bitching about Kenae’s allergy.  Did they mention why, if she can’t taste the food she is cooking, she was put on that station?

[galaxychaser]

1 hour ago, mojoween said:

I was spacing out when Heather was bitching about Kenae’s allergy.  Did they mention why, if she can’t taste the food she is cooking, she was put on that station?

no.

[Mystery]

I think that Christina's season was the first one I watched, and I just loved her (love her still, as a kind of "coach") and it's interesting to see her on the guys' team this year. To  me, she has what preeya was talking about as leadership and maturity, though I also thought she was a good cook. I'm still not sure what Trev was doing when he talked to her before the dinner service, but whatever. She's great. 

[Colorado David]

I love it when Christina bitches people out - she does it in such a calm even manner, compared to GR's ranting.

[spiderpig]

Trev bugged the hell out of me and I can't wait for Bret (who loves to pump his guns during his talking heads) to follow him out the door.  Not to mention neither of them can cook.

While not thrilled with the rest of the cast, I'll be OK with any of the other candidates.