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Stardate 2018.364 (and Beyond): Scheduling and Ratings

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So I see the first one listed for Sunday, but I don't see any other episodes listed on my DVR or on my tv listings. When is it going to be shown regularly? Wasn't it on Thursday last season?  

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3 hours ago, Superclam said:

So I see the first one listed for Sunday, but I don't see any other episodes listed on my DVR or on my tv listings. When is it going to be shown regularly? Wasn't it on Thursday last season?  

Thank you, @Superclam! I would never have recalled that.

Zap2it shows:

"Primal Urges" S02.E02 Thursday, Jan 3, 2019, 9/8 CT

"Home" S02.E03, Thursday, Jan 10, 2019, 9/8 CT

*off to update my spreadsheet*

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It would be easy to forget since the 2nd episode aired the same week as the premiere.  Many people probably didn't realize it was on again.

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1 hour ago, SimoneS said:

I just noticed this thread. The last episode's ratings were terrible, a series low; .6 in the key demo. I hope people just forgot it was back.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-jan-3-2019/

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9 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

It would be easy to forget since the 2nd episode aired the same week as the premiere.  Many people probably didn't realize it was on again.

Good point! 

Plus, since this started out as sort of a "vanity" project for Seth (something he'd always wanted to do) and he is likely doing some financial backing himself (just guessing producers do that, especially those with gazillions of disposable income), and because he has been such a long time money maker for the network, I think ratings wouldn't matter as much as for other shows.

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The last two weeks the Orville' ratings were .7 in the key demo. Not good. It might not get renewed at this rate.

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2 hours ago, SimoneS said:

The last two weeks the Orville' ratings were .7 in the key demo. Not good. It might not get renewed at this rate.

It is still doing better than its lead in, Gotham, which is in its final season and on its last legs. With a stronger lead in show it might be doing better, but I would be more worried if it did worse than its lead in.

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The Orville would also do better in an 8pm time slot. Although, they might have to curb the Moclan on Moclan(s) pornos.

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Oh, I don't think this show is going anywhere.  I'd be shocked if it weren't a lock for renewal in May, if not earlier than that.

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It's already well known that Seth MacFarlane is tired of doing Family Guy. If FOX cancelled Orville, I think he'd walk away from the network entirely.

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1 hour ago, ketose said:

It's already well known that Seth MacFarlane is tired of doing Family Guy. If FOX cancelled Orville, I think he'd walk away from the network entirely.

And maybe take the Orville with him? That could be interesting to see WRT changes in the scripts, stories, etc.

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7 hours ago, ketose said:

It's already well known that Seth MacFarlane is tired of doing Family Guy. If FOX cancelled Orville, I think he'd walk away from the network entirely.

It's pretty obvious that Seth and the entire Family Guy team is bored with the show and half assing it in a way that even other long running animated shows that have run out of new ideas and new angles on their characters to explore never have, but he certainly isn't tired of cashing the checks! I do think FOX wants to be in the Seth McFarlane business and that makes them more likely to renew the show if they can make the numbers work at all along with other ancillary concerns like the obvious effort they have made over the last few years to try to keep genre shows with passionate followings on the air if they can, but in the end both sides will make their decisions based on money.

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fyi, I was actually watching via Hulu and didnt even realize the show was on regular broadcast tv until a few weeks ago. For some reason I'd assumed it was like ST:Discovery (other than not being pure crap) and was a streaming show. I wonder to what extent Hulu and Fox online are considered in the ratings and offset bad traditional numbers.

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11 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

"The network will likely make its decision about 'The Orville' before or during its 2019 Upfronts presentation in New York City on May 13" (ibtimes.com/will-orville-have-season-3-renewal-cancellation-details-2787976).

This is hopefully good news, but I have to ask, with all 'The Orville' has going for it, what does it take these days for a show to get renewed?  If this show is in jeopardy I can't imagine it isn't the new normal for pretty much everything to be in jeopardy.  I read recently that the cost vs. profits of a show have something to do with its renewal too, and from the looks of the recent special effects/CGI this show is probably expensive to make.  I'm going to remain optimistic.

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4 hours ago, Yeah No said:

This is hopefully good news, but I have to ask, with all 'The Orville' has going for it, what does it take these days for a show to get renewed?  If this show is in jeopardy I can't imagine it isn't the new normal for pretty much everything to be in jeopardy.  I

What does it take for a show to get renewed? The same thing it always did. Ratings. If this show didn't have everything it has going for it, with the ratings it has it would most likely be headed for cancellation instead of likely renewed. And yes these days with the fractured television landscape almost everything scripted is in jeopardy of being cancelled - there isn't much room for error with shorter seasons and smaller ratings. Of course to a certain degree it has always been the case that the majority of television shows are in jeopardy of being cancelled. It's never been a business known for long term stability.

 

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I read recently that the cost vs. profits of a show have something to do with its renewal too, and from the looks of the recent special effects/CGI this show is probably expensive to make.  I'm going to remain optimistic.

Ever since networks have been allowed to own their own shows in a landscape where ratings are always shrinking and fewer of the viewers that do watch the show watch the ads cost vs. profits has had everything to do with renewal decisions. Sometimes it helps a show, sometimes it hurts. I've actually read that due to the way California production tax credits work for this series the show has actually not been losing tons of money despite the production values so in this case it helps.

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I would think Seth has enoug pull with Fox to be partially protected from ratings, plus I'm sure the show would end up streamed somewhere if Fox didnt pick it back up.

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Looks like the show survived "Black Friday". It wasn't on FOX's cancellation list that came out yesterday. Upfronts are soon, so we should have more news this week?

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Great news about the season 3 renewal! It helps ease the disappointment about The Passage's cancellation.

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58 minutes ago, phalange said:

Praise Kelly! Praise Avis! 

Praise Beebo (oops, wrong show)!

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YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!  😎  Oh thank God, my prayers are answered! 🙏  After all the surprise cancellations in the past two days I was seriously worried this would get the axe. ⛏️ (OK, it's a pick but they didn't have an axe). 😉

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