The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value

[plumbago blues]

Mika looks pretty in that first picture in that article, suomi.

The WSJ had a special section today about women in the (pandemic) work place. Again, not one mention of KYV or it's founder Mika. How could that be possible? Isn't she the icon of working women of the world? One who knows full well what it's like to work grueling hours in the hospital, a warehouse, and any number of essential businesses, or businesses that are/were shut down while also (really) caring for the needs of young children, sweating rent, etc.? Real everyday working women, not news readers and fancy doctors. An inspiring piece with no mention of self pitying or bullshit "coping mechanisms" like brownie baking and cereal binging.

[teddysmom]

Mika is weighing in on the debate in Cosmopolitan. Where we normally get advice on How To Do A Smoky Eye"  and "Six Ways to Spice Up your Sex Life". 

She scribbled this out this morning while Willie, Kattie, et al were doing her job. She admits she's writing it while Woodward is on.  

Meeks every one is entitled to their opinion but let me clue you in. If Biden says he won't debate again, that just fuels Trump and his "Sleepy Joe can't handle the heat of a campaign" and "Biden is a coward" "he quit after one debate because I beat him so badly". 

I have a better idea. Let's cancel you giving out your worthless advice, that by the way, no one asked for. 

 

[plumbago blues]

9 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I have a better idea. Let's cancel you giving out your worthless advice, that by the way, no one asked for. 

So true. It's kind of telling that the only place that will publish her drivel (other than her own "platform") is Cosmo, where boob slippage and BJ etiquette are the norm. The young women who read it, if it's still even published, don't care what what a 50 something scold like her has to say about presidential debates. Sad. I guess The Atlantic ran out of editorial space. Interesting that she chose a picture of platinum scowling Mika rather than drab hair scowling Mika. Another clue that she is not happy with herself. (And those damn sunglasses! Always on her head, not face...and who wears them that way with chiffon sleeves? Fierce/not.)

[neona]

I sorta agree with the substance of this article

Buuut what I don't get is why these other websites and stuff get Mika's interesting opinions and NOT the show and the MJ fans? This is a well-written, well-argued article, so why didn't she set out these actually coherent, interesting views ON-AIR, where it would REALLY make a difference? Instead of the diffuse, tired, foggy Edwardian Funeral Parlor Timeloop stuff she does in the morning for us? 

Why did she save her interesting opinions for a teenage magazine , not for the adults watching her on TV?

And when she says "while I'm typing this, Bob Woodward is talking..." wait, what? Whyyy wasn't she engaging WITH Bob Woodward? He could actually give her a lot of interesting insight on her thoughts, in real time...feedback, inspiration?

I find this so confusing. I think she actually CAN be so smart and interesting but she doesn't care about Morning Joe or the MJ audience in any way anymore. Like we're no longer worthy of preparation, warmth, humor, insight...all the energy and awakeness is reserved for the the boring online platforms ....not flesh-and-blood humans watching. So depressing.

[Kemper]

If she actually wrote this (I have no idea what it says because I could not click on the article from above) and it is intelligently and smartly written...while Bob Woodward...Bob Woodward!...was talking?  And she admits this? How are we sure she is the one who actually wrote the final product?  Who knows, maybe she has been hiding her light under a bushel.  Of cake.  

Sorry, that was really bitchy and catty of me. I am tired; you are tired; we is all tired.

 

[plumbago blues]

I think she is working (!) triple double overtime to try to atone for the sins the 2 of them committed during the last election. The humiliation of being constantly reminded of their pushing Trump and ignoring Hillary must run deep. I think she has to write (or have Joe or her protégé at KYV write, more likely) these "hard hitting" pieces rather than use her daily 3 hour show to express her opinions because she is such a poor speaker and reader. That she admitted to doing this during Woodward's segment is unfathomable. Unless, of course, she was madly typing bullet points from his spiel. She is so shallow. There's probably good reason Joe got the WaPo gig and she's stuck on Cosmo.

 

[teddysmom]

It's not hard hitting, and it makes no sense.  It's basically saying "you were awful and I won't play with you". which is fine if you're a kid and your friend  cheated when you played Monopoly.    Mika is like that kid, saying "I'm taking my ball and going home, you're too mean. " 

This is politics, it's not a game.   This is the most important election of our lives. You do not give an inch

If you're Biden you ask the Debate Commission to come up with some way to insure that the next debate the moderator has more controls over the way the candidates respond.  You promise you will do your level best to abide by the rules, but that you expect them to keep the other candidate under control, or THEY can pause the debate til he does.  

She doesn't understand Trump at all if she thinks Biden not doing anymore debates is a good idea. It plays right into Trump's hand, his claims that Biden is weak and old and isn't up to the task, while he is strong and tough and smarter. 

Nice try Mika, stick to blogging about cake and carpet fibers. 

 

[teddysmom]

Mika is retweeting a tv evangelist Beth Moore. I'm not quite sure what's going on. 

Beth basically does what Mika does, but with books about how to be a lady of God instead of wine & teeshirts. 

Religion is fine, I just don't think it's very Godly for someone to be selling books and having seminars where they're making money off of telling people if they do this or that they'll go to Heaven.  No more than I want women to think Mika has the answer to their problems with cereal and vodka.

 

[neona]

51 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

This is politics, it's not a game.   This is the most important election of our lives. You do not give an inch

If you're Biden you ask the Debate Commission to come up with some way to insure that the next debate the moderator has more controls over the way the candidates respond.  You promise you will do your level best to abide by the rules, but that you expect them to keep the other candidate under control, or THEY can pause the debate til he does.  

She doesn't understand Trump at all if she thinks Biden not doing anymore debates is a good idea. It plays right into Trump's hand, his claims that Biden is weak and old and isn't up to the task, while he is strong and tough and smarter. 

To quote every MJ panelist,ever, teddysmom, you are absolutely right. Heh. Thank you for your insights. It would have been useful to add some demands for future debate, some interesting suggestions and perspectives, rather than capitulating, giving up, and going "'this isn't fair so lets not ever do it again..."

26 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Beth basically does what Mika does, but with books about how to be a lady of God instead of wine & teeshirts. 

Religion is fine, I just don't think it's very Godly for someone to be selling books and having seminars where they're making money off of telling people if they do this or that they'll go to Heaven.  No more than I want women to think Mika has the answer to their problems with cereal and vodka.

 

There is nothing wrong about a religion based around WINE AND VODKA. On behalf of all the Dionysians around the world, I take offence 😉 

[teddysmom]

I am literally going to throw up.  Joe Scarborough thinks he's going to save democracy, and Mika will cry read it to you tomorrow.  I'd rather have a root canal, followed by a kidney stone. 

 Democracy isn't dying Joe.  Over 2 million people have already voted.  In 2016 the number was around 10,000 at the same time.  Go take a walk with Lady McCake.  

 

[xaxat]

How's that prediction that Trump would quit rather than face potential defeat going for you Joe?

 

[teddysmom]

  

13 minutes ago, xaxat said:

How's that prediction that Trump would quit rather than face potential defeat going for you Joe?

 

Don't forget Hillary would beat Obama. He wasn't qualified to be President, according to Joe & His Magic 8 Ball. 

Edited October 1, 2020 by teddysmom

[plumbago blues]

2 hours ago, teddysmom said:

  Go take a walk with Lady McCake. 

Seriously? That tweet is ridiculous. She's shilling his article portraying him as the savior of us all yet her ME,ME,ME comes through loud and clear: Mindful Meeks needs a walk right now, dammit. Miss Bossypants can't walk the 'hood alone? I thought she was complaining about needing to escape her family just a few days ago.

I saw the clips of the lighting issue. Where is KYV Mika when she needs her? Wouldn't a woman (or anyone) of value confront the issue with  whomever they have lighting them and say something? Isn't that what she did with the whole raise thing years ago? Of course, Joe was behind her when she did that...maybe he's the one actually throwing shade now😄.  

[neona]

32 minutes ago, plumbago blues said:

I saw the clips of the lighting issue. Where is KYV Mika when she needs her? Wouldn't a woman (or anyone) of value confront the issue with  whomever they have lighting them and say something? Isn't that what she did with the whole raise thing years ago? Of course, Joe was behind her when she did that...maybe he's the one actually throwing shade now😄.  

Right? She keeps telling other women to make demands but she consistently allows herself to be marginalized. There have been repeated changes that have disadvantaged her every step of the way - she's no longer allowed to co-host, they moved her to a different room from Joe where she's only there like 20 minutes out of 180 minutes, a MASSIVE demotion - she used to be present for every segment. They suddenly give her poor lighting, she doesn't object. I'm not sure if the show supplies/pays for the wardrobe, but the way it is now seems designed to make her less visible and highlight Joe?

It's nuts. She has the wealth, resources and platform to make actual demands

[meowmommy]

2 hours ago, neona said:

It's nuts. She has the wealth, resources and platform to make actual demands

But not the talent.

[Kemper]

I don't think she is allowing all of this to happen to her because she has been marginalized.  I think she just does not care; maybe she is clinically depressed, maybe she just does not have the work ethic or talent; maybe she needs a break.  I am just sick to death of her drama.  If she isn't happy....she has the resources to do something about it.  I would think doing a 3-hour live morning show everyday is grueling. But I don't see Alysio Camerota, or my local newswomen who are on air by 4:30 a.m. - to my knowledge, showcasing their troubles and poor-me on Instagram, Twitter and all the other social platforms.

I'm just picking professions right now that employ a good number of women...nursing, teaching, clerks, day care operators, waitresses, etc.  They work their rear ends off every day, most of them for a fraction of what Meeka makes.  I am sure they are exhausted and underpaid; as I am sure a good many people are nowadays.  Of all sexes, ages, income levels.  Maybe they are self-medicating with cake (😁), vodka, running, etc.  They are not taking vacations to Maine, they are not able to work from home.   Sweet Jesus, I need to get a life so I can get over my crankyness.  I actually think I need a break from my laptop.  

[plumbago blues]

9 hours ago, Kemper said:

I need to get a life so I can get over my crankyness.

Nah. Crankyness is the new black. We've all got it, sister. This is us!

[neona]

12 hours ago, meowmommy said:

But not the talent.

I don't think that's true. But because that impression is out there, she would really benefit from getting the simple stuff right, presenting well, not letting herself be marginalized, etc

[nittany cougar]

Kemper, you are so right.  I often take early morning trips to the grocery store to avoid the crowd.  The people who work in our stores are coming into contact with so many people every day, yet they are pleasant. 

I really think Mika is having a larger life moment than this pandemic.  She probably does need a break.  Life changes are easier if you have help but I get the vibe that Joe is not the most supportive person.  He has a huge ego and is all about what he knows and what he's done.  

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, neona said:

I don't think that's true. But because that impression is out there, she would really benefit from getting the simple stuff right, presenting well, not letting herself be marginalized, etc

I must respectfully disagree with you.  I don't see that she has any abilities of any kind, and certainly not of the kind that warrant a national audience and a multimillion dollar salary.  Certainly not any abilities that would give her leverage in a negotiation over demands.  But for her marriage to Joe, she's eminently replaceable.  She adds nothing to any discussion, ever.  Would it benefit her to improve her look?  Of course.  But would it make her a competent news presenter or talk show host, when she clearly lacks the skills?  Probably not.

Edited October 2, 2020 by meowmommy

[teddysmom]

I don't think it's lighting. She hadn't done her make up, until this morning. Today she did the highlighting and contouring and she looks better. 
Why all of a sudden would they change her lighting?  It makes no sense. She's just not making much of an effort. 

Let's be honest, Willie has been carrying this show for months. 

And as was pointed out in that second clip she couldn't put on an outfit that looks pulled together, and it wasn't even on right, the top was all crooked. 

No one is marginalizing Mika, least of all Joe. He knows better.  She's going thru some type of depression, which she has talked about so we aren't speaking out of school,  either from being deprived the KYV attention, or from menopause, or whatever.  

 

[teddysmom]

She can't even make a joke correctly.   How is a river in a van down by the river? 

 

 

[xaxat]

19 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

She can't even make a joke correctly.   How is a river in a van down by the river? 

 

 

OK, I'm genuinely puzzled. The Chris Farley SNL sketch that gave birth to that phrase is like the last piece of pop culture I would expect her to be familiar with.

[teddysmom]

23 minutes ago, xaxat said:

The Chris Farley SNL sketch that gave birth to that phrase is like the last piece of pop culture I would expect her to be familiar with.

Considering the phrase refers to a loser type person living in a van down by the river, not a river running thru a van, she apparently is not that familiar with it at all. 

[teddysmom]

Mika retweeted this from Lincoln Project. I think she got confused that this was the van down by the river skit. It's the plane scene from Bridesmaids.   Please Mika, go eat some Lucky Charms and take a nap. You're wearing me out. 

 

[plumbago blues]

3 hours ago, xaxat said:

The Chris Farley SNL sketch that gave birth to that phrase is like the last piece of pop culture I would expect her to be familiar with.

Pretty obvious to me that Joe fed her that line. She has no idea what she wrote or why. He ought to know we  all know she is modern culturally illiterate and this kind of thing reinforces what a fraud she is.

 

4 hours ago, meowmommy said:

She adds nothing to any discussion, ever.

Here, here! I hope Cesar Conde sees this. Article in WSJ today about MSNBC's ratings slipping. He wants to move over from all politics all the time to more hard news and wants a hard line between daytime "news" and evening opinion. That would mean, hopefully, axing MJ to stop wasting 3 hours with Joe's ego and Mika's murmurings. Said too that Joy's ratings are falling. No surprise to me.

[teddysmom]

6 minutes ago, plumbago blues said:

Here, here! I hope Cesar Conde sees this. Article in WSJ today about MSNBC's ratings slipping. He wants to move over from all politics all the time to more hard news and wants a hard line between daytime "news" and evening opinion. That would mean, hopefully, axing MJ to stop wasting 3 hours with Joe's ego and Mika's murmurings. Said too that Joy's ratings are falling. No surprise to me.

I think 24 hours of politics is insane. I realize politics is the news right now.  Joy was a brief blurb as far as her ratings, but she's nothing special really. She's adequate and she's doing an okay job I guess. I don't watch her show unless Mary Trump is on. I'd probably follow Mary Trump over a cliff.  I'm just doing other things at 7 pm.  I really don't watch MSNBC at night much at all. It's all so depressing right now. 

I don't mind the morning show with political and news talk, to have on in the background,  but Joe & Mika have to go.  Joe just wants to yell and Mika has been phoning it in since they moved to FL.   Willie hosts the majority of the show anyway.  He does a better job, he can be snarky without being belligerent,  he's dressed like a professional, and actually understands sports, tv, movies, etc.  

Like if Mika understood the joke she screwed up, she could have said:  "Trump tested positive so he & Melania have to quarantine for 2 weeks.  Melania is so furious she's  making him live in a van down by the river.   While he's there he'll search for those imaginary missing ballots. "

See how easy that is, Mika?  

[meowmommy]

50 minutes ago, plumbago blues said:

He wants to move over from all politics all the time to more hard news and wants a hard line between daytime "news" and evening opinion. That would mean, hopefully, axing MJ to stop wasting 3 hours with Joe's ego and Mika's murmurings. Said too that Joy's ratings are falling. No surprise to me.

OT, but have you caught Shep Smith's new show on CNBC, opposite Joy?  It's pretty good, and it's mostly news, rather than opinion based.  They would do well to duplicate that format in the morning, but with the right host(s).

Edited October 2, 2020 by meowmommy

[oakville]

1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

I think 24 hours of politics is insane. I realize politics is the news right now.  Joy was a brief blurb as far as her ratings, but she's nothing special really. She's adequate and she's doing an okay job I guess. I don't watch her show unless Mary Trump is on. I'd probably follow Mary Trump over a cliff.  I'm just doing other things at 7 pm.  I really don't watch MSNBC at night much at all. It's all so depressing right now. 

I don't mind the morning show with political and news talk, to have on in the background,  but Joe & Mika have to go.  Joe just wants to yell and Mika has been phoning it in since they moved to FL.   Willie hosts the majority of the show anyway.  He does a better job, he can be snarky without being belligerent,  he's dressed like a professional, and actually understands sports, tv, movies, etc.  

Like if Mika understood the joke she screwed up, she could have said:  "Trump tested positive so he & Melania have to quarantine for 2 weeks.  Melania is so furious she's  making him live in a van down by the river.   While he's there he'll search for those imaginary missing ballots. "

See how easy that is, Mika?  

I think Morning Joe in its current form could last till the summer of 2021 if Biden is elected President. There will be enough political news with a new administration. Joe won't be able to promote himself as a Biden insider or make recommendation for Cabinet.

However, I can't see Joe having enough material to rant about in a Biden administration after the first 100 days.

Willie could host from NY & Kasie from DC. I watch Willie's Sunday Today show. He does a good job interviewing celebrities & can cover sports & news.

The new Morning Willie with Kasie !  would attract a younger audience.

Mika & Joe could make occasional appearances as Florida retirees.

Edited October 2, 2020 by oakville

[plumbago blues]

25 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

OT, but have you caught Shep Smith's new show on CNBC, opposite Joy?

Yeah. I was happy to see him back and playing it straight. I wonder if he'll drift over to his snarky side? The article said that Cesar greenlighted Shep's show, moving away from CNBC's night time lighter fare (sniff,  better keep my Shark Tank reruns!) to news. Also said that he is navigating tensions between on-air talent at MSNBC and NBC. Some journalists at NBC are wary of appearing on MSNBC due to it's liberal lean and opposition of the president and feel it erodes NBC's reputation as a straight news channel. Guess that's why MJ is stuck with same boring guests all the time.

[plumbago blues]

Anyone happen to see the latest KYV essay? I skimmed it and it made me feel a bit uneasy. Mika has co-opted the pain and anguish of one of her daughters' high school friends whose father took his life. Something about male mental health. It just seemed so exploitative and personal. Wrong, in my eyes. This is yet another foray into mental health and I guess another sign of her own disturbed state and obsession over it. She's in over her head on this subject, IMO.

[cased]

4 hours ago, meowmommy said:

OT, but have you caught Shep Smith's new show on CNBC, opposite Joy?  It's pretty good, and it's mostly news, rather than opinion based.  They would do well to duplicate that format in the morning, but with the right host(s).

I haven’t watched it yet, but I want to try to watch it when I have time. I’m rarely home at that time, I set it to record every episode, so I’ll watch it as I have time (I have youtube TV, so I can record unlimited shows without having to worry about DVR space). 

[plumbago blues]

Do you think Mika will be featured on the Sunday shows, or even on a Breaking News segment today, to explain Trump's illness and how he got it and who he gave it to? She was quite the speculative virus tracker on Twitter yesterday. Girl knows her Super Spreader events.  

[neona]

6 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

Do you think Mika will be featured on the Sunday shows, or even on a Breaking News segment today, to explain Trump's illness and how he got it and who he gave it to? She was quite the speculative virus tracker on Twitter yesterday. Girl knows her Super Spreader events.  

You know what, in this case, she's right. The press right now is doing a huge public service conducting the contact tracing the fucking government should be doing a lot better, a lot faster. Actual public servants who should know better have put ORDINARY PEOPLE at risk, and it's obscene. Some of it is definitely speculative, but for the people impacted it's better than nothing, and most of it is pretty solid in terms of warning people, urgently, that they MIGHT have been exposed

[teddysmom]

Yes it's dark times when you jet back and forth between Maine and Florida, make $8 million for 2 hours a work each day. Dark times indeed.  What a trooper she is. 

 

[neona]

On 10/2/2020 at 9:54 PM, oakville said:

I think Morning Joe in its current form could last till the summer of 2021 if Biden is elected President.

My family and I are creatures of habit, and kinda attached to this show, god help us... so I actually HOPE it lasts beyond that.

I think their ratings are probably pretty good right now, and kudos to them. 

Buuuut I do think there's a huge fluctuation between "breaking news" days and "ordinary days"... and I'm scared that difference indicates there's gonna be this post-Trump precipitous fall...and unlike other timeslots, it's not like people really have OTHER PLANS at 6 a.m., so they could be easily "recruited" into long-term viewers?

I just wish that when they have all the "breaking news" eyeballs they could polish things up and convince people it's a show worth sticking around for, on ordinary days... with diverse news, funny, awake, interesting hosts, etc... not something you have to watch when there's breaking news but that's too dark and exhausting on the regular... 

Edited October 6, 2020 by neona

[xaxat]

Quote

A post shared by Mika (Brzezinski) Scarborough

Is this new? Or does she always take Joe's last name except for professional appearances?

Kind of weird either way.

[oakville]

4 hours ago, neona said:

My family and I are creatures of habit, and kinda attached to this show, god help us... so I actually HOPE it lasts beyond that.

I think their ratings are probably pretty good right now, and kudos to them. 

Buuuut I do think there's a huge fluctuation between "breaking news" days and "ordinary days"... and I'm scared that difference indicates there's gonna be this post-Trump precipitous fall...and unlike other timeslots, it's not like people really have OTHER PLANS at 6 a.m., so they could be easily "recruited" into long-term viewers?

I just wish that when they have all the "breaking news" eyeballs they could polish things up and convince people it's a show worth sticking around for, on ordinary days... with diverse news, funny, awake, interesting hosts, etc... not something you have to watch when there's breaking news but that's too dark and exhausting on the regular... 

I am not sure if Mika & Joe want to put in the effort to having a non Trump political show. The first few months of a Biden administration would let Joe give his recommendations to the administration to ensure that they are as politically successful as Joe was in Congress.

After that, they could spend an hour a day doing a show that responds to former President Trump's tweets.

However, I think Mika is burned out & needs a rest. Joe could ask for a role as an elder statesman of MSNBC & discuss Ronald Reagan, music , UK soccer & baseball.

On a past show, Joe expressed interest in working with Paul McCartney from the Beatles.

[Kemper]

3 minutes ago, oakville said:

On a past show, Joe expressed interest in working with Paul McCartney from the Beatles.

Oakville, you have made my day!  Sweet Jesus.  I can only imagine that Paul (when I was 15, I actually thought I was going to marry him) is just as anxious to work with Joe.  

Joe as Elder Statesman?  I can see it.  The new, younger, hip version of Tom Brokow.  Heh.

[nittany cougar]

15 hours ago, xaxat said:

Is this new? Or does she always take Joe's last name except for professional appearances?

Kind of weird either way.

What I don't get is why is Brzezinski in parentheses.  She could just use both names without a hyphen. It is called a double barreled last name. Either use both names or pick one.  

Or don't change your name just to please your husband. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by nittanycougar

[plumbago blues]

3 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

What I don't get is why is Brzezinski in parentheses.

In case anyone forgets she is at some level related to someone who was smart and accomplished.

(With her, it's always about hanging on to someone else's glory.)

[lucylou]

Just a question, why does Mika look so awful?

[plumbago blues]

56 minutes ago, lucylou said:

Just a question, why does Mika look so awful?

A serious case of I Don't Give a Fuck combined with a slow motion mental breakdown.

[Rickster]

On 10/6/2020 at 1:03 PM, neona said:

My family and I are creatures of habit, and kinda attached to this show, god help us... so I actually HOPE it lasts beyond that.

I think their ratings are probably pretty good right now, and kudos to them. 

Buuuut I do think there's a huge fluctuation between "breaking news" days and "ordinary days"... and I'm scared that difference indicates there's gonna be this post-Trump precipitous fall...and unlike other timeslots, it's not like people really have OTHER PLANS at 6 a.m., so they could be easily "recruited" into long-term viewers?

I just wish that when they have all the "breaking news" eyeballs they could polish things up and convince people it's a show worth sticking around for, on ordinary days... with diverse news, funny, awake, interesting hosts, etc... not something you have to watch when there's breaking news but that's too dark and exhausting on the regular... 

The show used to be more interesting with a wider variety of guests when they were in the New York studio, and before they decided the path to ratings heaven was to be Trump bashers 24/7. It WILL be interesting to see what happens after a Biden win, but I think it will be difficult to do a more diverse show if they decide to stay in the Florida bunker, regardless of how it benefits their tax return.

[teddysmom]

17 hours ago, Rickster said:

The show used to be more interesting with a wider variety of guests when they were in the New York studio, and before they decided the path to ratings heaven was to be Trump bashers 24/7. It WILL be interesting to see what happens after a Biden win, but I think it will be difficult to do a more diverse show if they decide to stay in the Florida bunker, regardless of how it benefits their tax return.

They've got nothing. They are a one trick pony and everyone knows the trick. This morning illustrated just how awful this show is. 

Their job is to report news, comment on it, and interview guests.  No one wants to start their day being screamed at by these two jackasses. 

[SG429]

1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

They've got nothing. They are a one trick pony and everyone knows the trick. This morning illustrated just how awful this show is. 

Their job is to report news, comment on it, and interview guests.  No one wants to start their day being screamed at by these two jackasses. 

And about that rerun in the 8AM hour? When clearly events have changed between 6 and 8? Hard to understand how they continue to air a stale morning news show.

[teddysmom]

20 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

A serious case of I Don't Give a Fuck combined with a slow motion mental breakdown.

Is she cutting her hair every day? It looks shorter and more severe every morning. 

[neona]

Her hair is totally fine, IMO. YMMV, of course, but the problem isn't little things like that, for either of them, it's the the overall impression of the show...

I don't really begrudge them their Florida life, it seems peaceful and pleasant...but it's also clear that if their ratings drop post-Trump, the first thing that's gonna happen is they'll get instantly recalled to NY. ...and it's so surprising to me they don't seem to want to invest in or make the Florida thing feel even a little more polished or pleasant to viewers before that happens....? 

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by neona

[teddysmom]

1 hour ago, neona said:

nd it's so surprising to me they don't seem to want to invest in or make the Florida thing feel even a little more polished or pleasant to viewers before that happens....? 

It's Joe & Mika. Why should they do more than the bare minimum?  They have a contract, and apparently MSNBC is fine with their bullshit.  They haven't given two shits about this show for months. Why start now? If Joe Biden gets elected, their little party is over.  They can barely get guests on the show now.  I don't know what they've got on Woodward that he keeps appearing, if I were him I'd collect those book royalties and sleep in.  And until there is a vaccine and Mika can go back to KYV shaminars, these "dark times" she's going thru are gonna get darker and darker. 

Hell, they don't even interview all their guests, they let the guests interview the other guests. I know no other show where the host just turns it over to whoever is there and disappears. 

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by teddysmom

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3 hours ago, neona said:

Her hair is totally fine, IMO. YMMV, of course, but the problem isn't little things like that, for either of them, it's the the overall impression of the show...

I don't really begrudge them their Florida life, it seems peaceful and pleasant...but it's also clear that if their ratings drop post-Trump, the first thing that's gonna happen is they'll get instantly recalled to NY. ...and it's so surprising to me they don't seem to want to invest in or make the Florida thing feel even a little more polished or pleasant to viewers before that happens....? 

 

 

3 hours ago, neona said:

Her hair is totally fine, IMO. YMMV, of course, but the problem isn't little things like that, for either of them, it's the the overall impression of the show...

I don't really begrudge them their Florida life, it seems peaceful and pleasant...but it's also clear that if their ratings drop post-Trump, the first thing that's gonna happen is they'll get instantly recalled to NY. ...and it's so surprising to me they don't seem to want to invest in or make the Florida thing feel even a little more polished or pleasant to viewers before that happens....? 

 

Mika & Joe could increase ratings by broadcasting outdoors on special occasions. They could set up some chairs in the backyard by the swimming pool.

Joe has already mentioned this week that some of his neighbors were behaving erratically because they were on Dexamethosone. Joe could interview them & make sure they are OK.

Mika could host a segment with guests & ask them "What is in your pill organizer ? "

Edited October 8, 2020 by oakville