Carole Radziwill: She's a Real Princess!

[Duke2801]

Oh, lawd! I'm sure Heather bossed her into doing that.

 

Well natch! She is, after all, a Bossy Bitch who, in addition to running a business and caring for her family, moonlights as Carol's Puppet Master.

 

I took Carole's comment about editing people's Wiki pages as tongue-in-cheek.  I wish she would give some clarification on that.  Anybody on twitter wanna ask her?   ;) 

[Trooper York]

They can't show more of Carole's dating life because she was banned from on-line dating because she was caught editing EHarmony profiles.

[jinjer]

I think Carole's a stealth bitch who has basically watched her Ps & Qs this year, and had Aviva not accused her of using a ghost writer, we would have only seen the eccentric, hobo chic, downtown Carole.  But I think her close "Radzi" friendship with Andy speaks more to Carole's true nature more than anything else.  I think she's a poseur and a mean-girl.

 

Every get-up she wears is just that - not an outfit, but a get up, worn to get a reaction.  This year has been more outlandish and playful.  But last year was much more subtle - giving the illusion of being effortless when I get the feeling every piece was very well planned.. Her strategic attack on Luann last year, while entertaining, was just down-right mean and uncalled for.  Her Talking Heads last year and blog entries were pretty mean-spirited.  Like she saved every snarky comment and said it behind the women's backs.  I think she probably still does it with Heather and maybe when she sees Andy out on Fire Island or in the Hamptons, she was just smart enough not to do it on film and pretty much saved her vitriol for the near-universally despised Aviva.

[ryebread]

The only problem with asking her on Twitter, is like in her talking heads, she has the time to compose herself and her answer.  This is the kind of question I would have liked Andy to have asked at the reunion but he spent too much time on Aviva and Sonja.

 

Obviously I didn't take her to be kidding.  I think she and Heather looked and acted like they had genuine buzzes on and she revealed something that maybe she wishes she hadn't.  Or maybe. like shoegal eloquently mentioned, she doesn't care that some people might find that asinine and juvenile.  Cest la vie.

[shoegal]

Carole plans her outfits.  What a bitch.

[Trooper York]

I think jinjer has it exactly right. Everyone hates Aviva so much that anything anyone else does flies under the radar. Next year will be very interesting. I can totally see someone coming on to challenge the Heather/Carole/Kristen Axis of Mean Girl by picking up Luann as a wingman and Ramona and Sonja along as cannon fodder. Last years hero is next years target TM Lisa Vanderpump.

[shoegal]

Well natch! She is, after all, a Bossy Bitch who, in addition to running a business and caring for her family, moonlights as Carol's Puppet Master.

 

I took Carole's comment about editing people's Wiki pages as tongue-in-cheek.  I wish she would give some clarification on that.  Anybody on twitter wanna ask her?   ;) 

 

I don't see the big deal, isn't part of the point of Wikipedia that is editable by the public?  Someone is editing those pages. Why not Carole? 

Edited August 21, 2014 by shoegal

[LotusFlower]

Carole plans her outfits.  What a bitch.

I was just going to write the same thing. With the exception of people who wear uniforms to work/school, who doesn't plan what they're going to wear?

[WireWrap]

I think it says do what you want to do and to hell with what people think about it.  If you want to put your feet up on the dash while in a convertible through Times Square with your boyfriend, do it.  If you want to stand on the hood of the car in watch a plane take off, do it.  If you want to wear your walking dress, while walking, do it!  These things hurt no one and if they make you feel good, screw what people will think of you and do it.

 

Or, in my language, fuck 'em.     

 

I think it is quite possible that she realized it is best to live her life the way she wants and not bow under to any outside opinion. I would think this happened when her husband lost his long battle to cancer and loosing her 2 dear friends in a horrible accident just a short time after. That would be a life changing time for anyone and she seems to have realized she needs to live her life her way and not how someone else dictates.

[shoegal]

I was just going to write the same thing. With the exception of people who wear uniforms to work/school, who doesn't plan what they're going to wear?

 

I'm already thinking about my outfits for next week! 

[LotusFlower]

I'm already thinking about my outfits for next week!

 

With shoes to match, no doubt!

 

I think it is quite possible that she realized it is best to live her life the way she wants and not bow under to any outside opinion. I would think this happened when her husband lost his long battle to cancer and loosing her 2 dear friends in a horrible accident just a short time after. That would be a life changing time for anyone and she seems to have realized she needs to live her life her way and not how someone else dictates.

I agree. Just wanted to say, though, that JFK Jr. and Carolyn died before her husband, in such a cruel twist of fate.

[Duke2801]

I don't see the big deal, isn't part of the point of Wikipedia that is editable by the public?  Someone is editing those pages. Why not Carole? 

 

Oh I don't think it's a big deal, either, I'm just curious (aka: a nosy bitch)

[Trooper York]

You don't want your enemies to edit your entry. Just imagine if Aviva edited Carole's entry. Or more appropriately Carole edited Aviva's.

How do you think that would go?

Edited August 21, 2014 by Trooper York

[shoegal]

You don't want your enemies to edit your entry. Just imagine if Aviva edited Carole's entry. Or more appropriately Carole edited Aviva's.

How do you think that would go?

 

I don't think that Carole said she edits "her enemies" Wiki pages, and as I understand, the Wiki pages are monitored and if anything malicious or untrue is added, it gets fixed.  I don't get the sense that Carole is maliciously editing Wiki pages. 

[WireWrap]

 

With shoes to match, no doubt!

 

I agree. Just wanted to say, though, that JFK Jr. and Carolyn died before her husband, in such a cruel twist of fate.

Sorry, I got them reversed, Thanks for the correction! :)

[jaync]

The only problem with asking her on Twitter, is like in her talking heads, she has the time to compose herself and her answer. 

It's a yes-or-no question, why would she need time to compose an answer?

[quaintirene]

 

Carole plans her outfits.  What a bitch.

It's really more about the outfits Carole plans.  That lovely 1930s walking dress was never designed to hike through a prairie full of sharp grass and probably got torn to ribbons.  But who cares!  It's so kooky!  Look!  My hair's in pigtails!

 

And then there's this:

 

 

her close "Radzi" friendship with Andy

Before she went on the show she was friends with Andy Cohen.  The man that confessed he'd get two people, tell them lies about what the other said about them, and then sat back to watch the fun.  I watch these shows avidly but I don't ever see myself wanting to be anywhere near Andy Cohen.  But Carole is a friend.  I think she's as much of a trouble-maker as he is.

[shoegal]

It's really more about the outfits Carole plans.  That lovely 1930s walking dress was never designed to hike through a prairie full of sharp grass and probably got torn to ribbons.  But who cares!  It's so kooky!  Look!  My hair's in pigtails!

 

 

 

I am pretty sure they were on a wide, dirt road....and if it got torn to ribbons, then yes, who cares??  Where else are you going to wear a vintage walking dress if not walking in the prairies of Montana?  I bet the vintage prairie ladies of Montana would have cosigned, I doubt they were walking around in yoga pants or cut offs.

Before she went on the show she was friends with Andy Cohen.  The man that confessed he'd get two people, tell them lies about what the other said about them, and then sat back to watch the fun.  I watch these shows avidly but I don't ever see myself wanting to be anywhere near Andy Cohen.  But Carole is a friend.  I think she's as much of a trouble-maker as he is.

 

Andy created the RHW's so that viewers can sit back and watch the fun that he was enjoying,  I don't think there is much higher moral ground to be had between Andy watching the drama he created and now, we the viewers watching the drama he created.   

Edited August 21, 2014 by shoegal

[quaintirene]

 

I am pretty sure they were on a wide, dirt road....and if it got torn to ribbons, then yes, who cares??  Where else are you going to wear a vintage walking dress if not walking in the prairies of Montana?  I bet the vintage prairie ladies of Montana would have cosigned, I doubt they were walking around in yoga pants or cut offs.

Well I actually do care.  I like well-preserved vintage clothes and I would like them to stay well-preserved and not get destroyed by some long-in-the-tooth cowgirl trying to be cool.  I'm sure the vintage ladies of Montana would have looked after that dress and worn it carefully.  It was pretty and I doubt life was all that pretty back in the '30s in rural America.

 

As for the moral high ground, I'm not claiming the moral high ground.  But there's an old (vintage!) fable by Aesop whose message sums up as  'you're known by the company you keep'.  Luckily that one didn't end in shreds on the wide dirt roads of Montana.

Edited August 21, 2014 by quaintirene

[Duke2801]

The man that confessed he'd get two people, tell them lies about what the other said about them, and then sat back to watch the fun.

 

 

Where and when did he say this?

[shoegal]

Well I actually do care.  I like well-preserved vintage clothes and I would like them to stay well-preserved and not get destroyed by some long-in-the-tooth cowgirl trying to be cool.  I'm sure the vintage ladies of Montana would have looked after that dress and worn it carefully.  It was pretty and I doubt life was all that pretty back in the '30s in rural America.

 

As for the moral high ground, I'm not claiming the moral high ground.  But there's an old (vintage!) fable by Aesop whose message sums up as  'you're known by the company you keep'.  Luckily that one didn't end in shreds on the wide dirt roads of Montana.

 

I must have missed the part where the dress ended up shredded to ribbons as Carole so blatantly disregarded the preservation of the dress.  So sad, the dress **was** pretty and now it's in a shredded heap on the side of a dirt road in Montana.  Damn, Carole can't even wear her carefully planned outfits carefully!

Edited August 21, 2014 by shoegal

[comatoast]

I think it says do what you want to do and to hell with what people think about it.  If you want to put your feet up on the dash while in a convertible through Times Square with your boyfriend, do it.  If you want to stand on the hood of the car in watch a plane take off, do it.  If you want to wear your walking dress, while walking, do it!  These things hurt no one and if they make you feel good, screw what people will think of you and do it.

 

Or, in my language, fuck 'em.     

As the newbie I wanted to like most last year, I so wanted to see a cute 50ish accomplished woman who truly felt like she had the world at her feet, not caring one bit if she had a husband or a child, or any other BS society tells us we should have or do to be happy and confident. However, her demeanor told me otherwise. I'm glad you and others perceive her as a "fuck 'em" kind of person. It's the kind of person I wanted to see, but in my opinion, to be one you have to have maturity and confidence in spades. I just don't get that from Carol.

Edited August 21, 2014 by comatoast

[LotusFlower]

I watch these shows avidly but I don't ever see myself wanting to be anywhere near Andy Cohen. But Carole is a friend. I think she's as much of a trouble-maker as he is.

Carole has said that they run in the same social circle.....I've never gotten the impression that they're good friends. And I have to co-sign to what shoegal wrote: criticizing the producer for creating a show(s) that we all watch avidly? Really? If it's trouble-making, sudsy, stupid drama, we're all complicit so long as we continue to watch.

Edited August 21, 2014 by LotusFlower

[jaync]

I like well-preserved vintage clothes and I would like them to stay well-preserved and not get destroyed by some long-in-the-tooth cowgirl trying to be cool.

You concluded that Carole doesn't really like vintage clothes, and only buys them so she can look cool before she destroys them, all from that one scene?

[LotusFlower]

As for the moral high ground, I'm not claiming the moral high ground.  But there's an old (vintage!) fable by Aesop whose message sums up as  'you're known by the company you keep'.

How about the company we keep.....on our DVR? Cuz then, well, we're all guilty.

[shoegal]

As the newbie I wanted to like most last year, I so wanted to see a cute 50ish accomplished woman who truly felt like she had the world at her feet, not caring one bit if she had a husband or a child, or any other BS society tells us we should have or do to be happy and confident. However, her demeanor told me otherwise. I'm glad you and others perceive her as a "fuck 'em" kind of person. It's the kind of person I wanted to see, but in my opinion, to be one you have to have maturity and confidence in spades. I just don't get that from Carol.

 

I never expected a carefree single gal with the world at her feet, I expected a woman who went through hell and came out on the other side.  I think Carole is as happy being without a husband and child as she can be, considering the husband she had, and what she has said was the love of her life, is dead.  I think Carole has the kind of maturity that comes with knowing that life is fleeting, that it's painful and can end tragically for absolutely no reason, so live your life as well as you can and take advantage of the joy you can find, whether it's wearing a vintage walking dress, putting your feet up on the dash or putting on a bear suit to make people laugh....and yes, fuck em if they don't.

Edited August 21, 2014 by shoegal

[comatoast]

I never expected a carefree single gal with the world at her feet, I expected a woman who went through hell and came out on the other side. 

Did you know of her before RHONY? Had you read her memoir? Maybe that is where the difference in expectation and perception comes from.

[shoegal]

Did you know of her before RHONY? Had you read her memoir? Maybe that is where the difference in expectation and perception comes from.

 

I did not know her before RH, but I read What Remains before her first season aired.

[Duke2801]

Did you know of her before RHONY? Had you read her memoir? Maybe that is where the difference in expectation and perception comes from.

 

 

I did, I knew of her when What Remains came out.  I certainly did NOT expect a happy-go-lucky gal, unburdened by life's troubles.  In fact, I actually expected her to be much more serious than she was.  I was pleasantly surprised at her sense of humor. free-spirited nature, and her candor in discussing widow-hood (is that a word?  let's pretend it is!)

 

As the newbie I wanted to like most last year, I so wanted to see a cute 50ish accomplished woman who truly felt like she had the world at her feet, not caring one bit if she had a husband or a child, or any other BS society tells us we should have or do to be happy and confident.

 

 

TBH, you've pretty much described Carol accurately here.

Well I actually do care.  I like well-preserved vintage clothes and I would like them to stay well-preserved and not get destroyed by some long-in-the-tooth cowgirl trying to be cool.  I'm sure the vintage ladies of Montana would have looked after that dress and worn it carefully.  It was pretty and I doubt life was all that pretty back in the '30s in rural America.

 

 

 Carole mentioned (in her blog I think) about how much she loved that dress.  I highly doubt she let it get torn to shreds.    

[Trooper York]

 

I don't think that Carole said she edits "her enemies" Wiki pages, and as I understand, the Wiki pages are monitored and if anything malicious or untrue is added, it gets fixed.  I don't get the sense that Carole is maliciously editing Wiki pages.

I guess you haven't read any of her blogs. Wikipedia is notorious for having erroneous information being posted and remaining there for quite some time until the editors get around to fixing it. Unless you track your entry bad information could stand for quite some time. So if Carole decided to go to Aviva's entry and "edit" the information for Reid it could be up there for weeks. If she could throw that against the wall in her blog she could certainly stealthily stick it in the Wiki entry.

 

I read somewhere on PreviouslyTV that the comments on the Bravo website were shut down because Carole was putting up positive comments on her blog and negative comments on Aviva's and Ramona's blogs. I tend to believe what people have to say out of their own mouths. Carole said she likes to spend her free time editing other people's Wiki pages. It is not such a stretch to believe that she was flooding the zone on comment sections to such a degree that it led to all of the comments being shut down. It is hard to know what to believe. 

 

I know. She was just joking. Hee hee. Carole is such a card!

[shoegal]

I guess you haven't read any of her blogs. Wikipedia is notorious for having erroneous information being posted and remaining there for quite some time until the editors get around to fixing it. Unless you track your entry bad information could stand for quite some time. So if Carole decided to go to Aviva's entry and "edit" the information for Reid it could be up there for weeks. If she could throw that against the wall in her blog she could certainly stealthily stick it in the Wiki entry.

 

I read somewhere on PreviouslyTV that the comments on the Bravo website were shut down because Carole was putting up positive comments on her blog and negative comments on Aviva's and Ramona's blogs. I tend to believe what people have to say out of their own mouths. Carole said she likes to spend her free time editing other people's Wiki pages. It is not such a stretch to believe that she was flooding the zone on comment sections to such a degree that it led to all of the comments being shut down. It is hard to know what to believe. 

 

I know. She was just joking. Hee hee. Carole is such a card!

 

 

Did Carole decide to edit Aviva's Wikipedia page to include negative things about Aviva and/or Reid? 

 

I just went to check and it seems, Aviva has no Wikipedia page!  So I am guessing chances that Carole has been stealthily and maliciously editing Aviva's wiki page is slim to none. 

Edited August 21, 2014 by shoegal

[WireWrap]

I guess you haven't read any of her blogs. Wikipedia is notorious for having erroneous information being posted and remaining there for quite some time until the editors get around to fixing it. Unless you track your entry bad information could stand for quite some time. So if Carole decided to go to Aviva's entry and "edit" the information for Reid it could be up there for weeks. If she could throw that against the wall in her blog she could certainly stealthily stick it in the Wiki entry.

 

I read somewhere on PreviouslyTV that the comments on the Bravo website were shut down because Carole was putting up positive comments on her blog and negative comments on Aviva's and Ramona's blogs. I tend to believe what people have to say out of their own mouths. Carole said she likes to spend her free time editing other people's Wiki pages. It is not such a stretch to believe that she was flooding the zone on comment sections to such a degree that it led to all of the comments being shut down. It is hard to know what to believe. 

 

I know. She was just joking. Hee hee. Carole is such a card!

That was what Ramona, Sonja AND Aviva CLAIMED! They claimed Carole wrote ALL the positive posts on her blogs and ALL the negative ones on theirs! There was 1 poster that posted ONLY on Carole and Aviva's blogs that was called out for being AVIVA! She wrote only positive comments on Aviva's blogs and negative ones on Carole's blog, and after she was reported, NOT by me, her comments were removed and she was banned by TPTB, which leads me to believe she was in fact Aviva.

Edited August 21, 2014 by WireWrap

[motorcitymom65]

As the newbie I wanted to like most last year, I so wanted to see a cute 50ish accomplished woman who truly felt like she had the world at her feet, not caring one bit if she had a husband or a child, or any other BS society tells us we should have or do to be happy and confident. However, her demeanor told me otherwise. I'm glad you and others perceive her as a "fuck 'em" kind of person. It's the kind of person I wanted to see, but in my opinion, to be one you have to have maturity and confidence in spades. I just don't get that from Carol.

It is interesting how big a role perception plays. I anticipated nothing, as I knew nothing about her, but what you wrote above is exactly what I saw in Carole. Of course she is human, so she sometimes gets scared, or is unsure, but she seems to be the prime example of a woman of a "certain age" who gives not two shits what anyone else thinks about her with regard to the way she lives her life. She is happy with the life she has cobbled together, despite the heartache and sadness that have visited her, yet is also very warm and caring, and not afraid to show the world she is vulnerable at times.

[WireWrap]

I always wondered how Carole Radziwill ever got chosen to be on the Real Housewives of New York since she's not married, has no children and doesn't keep house for anyone.

Every HW show has had single women on the show and several of the HWs do NOT have children. Andy has said several times that the term "Housewife" is NOT meant to be taken literally.

[ginger90]

Andy has said several times that the term "Housewife" is NOT meant to be taken literally.

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 I wonder, is "Real" meant to be?

[Trooper York]

I don't think she edited Aviva's Wikipedia entry since as you say it doesn't exist. I just said I could see her doing that very easily based on the tenor of her blogs. (unless you want to blame it on a ghostwriter or something)

 

But I bet she keeps editing George Clooney's entry to insert that they dated for a year. They just keep changing it back. 

 

A girls gotta do what a girls gotta do. 

[shoegal]

I don't think she edited Aviva's Wikipedia entry since as you say it doesn't exist. I just said I could see her doing that very easily based on the tenor of her blogs. (unless you want to blame it on a ghostwriter or something)

 

But I bet she keeps editing George Clooney's entry to insert that they dated for a year. They just keep changing it back. 

 

A girls gotta do what a girls gotta do.

Well ya know, Carole is the only person in America who writes snarky comments about other people on the internet.

[quaintirene]

The thing is I don't like Carole. Shouting at me in caps will not change my mind nor will it improve my perception of her.

By the way, anyone got tapes/itunes of last season? Because I seem to remember Carole referring to a 'writing partner' in a couple of episodes. The episode where the 'news about the tv show' was, I believe, one of them.

[shoegal]

The thing is I don't like Carole. Shouting at me in caps will not change my mind nor will it improve my perception of her.

By the way, anyone got tapes/itunes of last season? Because I seem to remember Carole referring to a 'writing partner' in a couple of episodes. The episode where the 'news about the tv show' was, I believe, one of them.

The "writing partner" was helping turn Widows Guide into a script....I am assuming it was a screenwriter.

[MatildaMoody]

Trooper York, I love Carole, but I have to say that the way you express your hatred of her is some of the funniest and most entertaining shit that I have ever read on the internet.

 

Well done sir!

[LotusFlower]

I read somewhere on PreviouslyTV that the comments on the Bravo website were shut down because Carole was putting up positive comments on her blog and negative comments on Aviva's and Ramona's blogs.

So "word on the street?"

That was what Ramona, Sonja AND Aviva CLAIMED! They claimed Carole wrote ALL the positive posts on her blogs and ALL the negative ones on theirs! There was 1 poster that posted ONLY on Carole and Aviva's blogs that was called out for being AVIVA! She wrote only positive comments on Aviva's blogs and negative ones on Carole's blog, and after she was reported, NOT by me, her comments were removed and she was banned by TPTB, which leads me to believe she was in fact Aviva.

Of course! That was 100% their egos. They simply couldn't accept that people/viewers/fans of the show were writing positive comments for Carole, and a lot of negative ones for them. More delusions. They didn't like the ratio (positive vs. negative comments for all of them) so they simply invented this story. Edited August 22, 2014 by LotusFlower

[Trooper York]

I find it interesting that of all the many "hated" housewives who have buckets and buckets of terrible comments written about them that it is Carole who is tied to putting up false comments and faking comments. Not Theresa of NJ. Not Brandi of Beverly Hills. Not even Jill, Chutulu praise her name. There was some controversy as I recall about Jill and Amazon but not so much in the comments section of the Bravo blog. Or am I misremembering this?

 

Why is it that the fickle finger of fate is pointing at dear sweet organic free range butter wouldn't melt in her mouth Carole? Could it be that she is the only housewife who proudly stated she spent her free time altering data on the Internet to suit her fancy? Or is it Parkay?

 

I don't know anyone who has a definitive answer since it is extremely unlikely that Bravo will give up that information. Now as you say we can only rely on the "Word on the Street." Let's ask Brandi the next time she walks by. Just sayn'

[shoegal]

If you wanted to do something sneaky and sinister with anyone's wiki page or their "data on the internet"...wouldn't you be sneaky and sinister about it?

Call the cops, Carole is an admitted wiki contributor. Burn the wiki witch!

[Trooper York]

Oh that is so harsh. I wouldn't want to burn Carole. She is barely a stick of kindling.

 

Now Sonja. She would probably burn for quite some time due to her alcohol content. Sort of like a perpetual flame. 

 

Now that would be cool beans.

[MatildaMoody]

 

 

I find it interesting that of all the many "hated" housewives who have buckets and buckets of terrible comments written about them that it is Carole who is tied to putting up false comments and faking comments. Not Theresa of NJ. Not Brandi of Beverly Hills. Not even Jill, Chutulu praise her name. There was some controversy as I recall about Jill and Amazon but not so much in the comments section of the Bravo blog. Or am I misremembering this?

Why is it that the fickle finger of fate is pointing at dear sweet organic free range butter wouldn't melt in her mouth Carole? Could it be that she is the only housewife who proudly stated she spent her free time altering data on the Internet to suit her fancy? Or is it Parkay?

I don't know anyone who has a definitive answer since it is extremely unlikely that Bravo will give up that information. Now as you say we can only rely on the "Word on the Street." Let's ask Brandi the next time she walks by. Just sayn'

This is what I mean. I can never be sure if you are just being snarky or just really hating on Carole. Either way it works, and I salute you!

Jill was constantly being accused of posting herself, or having her employees and family members faking comments for her. Not just on Amazon during the whole "Amazon-gate" scandal, but on multiple blogger sites and even TWOP.

There were also tons of rumors about Laurie of the OC either personally or having others post comments on her behalf. The Manzos of New Jersey were under attack for a long while because people assumed they had employees of the Brownstone writing comments to counteract the negative publicity on blogger sites - and a lot of that happened even before the first episode of New Jersey aired.

Don't even get me started on Teresa of NJ - the stories of her comment posting fanbase are AWESOME!

Every HoWife who has experienced popularity has been accused of having plants, or posting themselves. Jill is just the most notorious. Twitter just opened the rumors up even further. And since BRAVO never really made it clear what would or wouldn't get a comment posted, the world will never know.

The beauty of the BRAVO blogs was that they never really clarified their comment posting policy. No one ever knew what comments would get through and which comments wouldn't. So, it would always be impossible to tell whether or not the comments told the true story of the HoWife's popularity. The conspiracy theories about the BRAVO blog comments are LEGENDARY. And I suspect you already knew all of that, you sly minx.

I think I love you.

[jinjer]

I always suspected that if the Bravo moderator of the HW blog liked that HW, only positive comments got through, if they disliked, then the negatives ones got through. Or, if a HW called up and bitched about negative comments, they got deleted, otherwise the moderators didn't pay attention to the comments.  The HWs that didn't give a rats ass, had more balanced comment sections.  

 

Sometimes there would be close to 1800 comments on a blog either negative or positive.  Even Carole with all her writing skill wouldn't have the time to generate that number.  Ramona and Aviva et al are crazy to blame it on Carole.  Did they ever look at Brandi's comment section is right!

[LotusFlower]

I find it interesting that of all the many "hated" housewives who have buckets and buckets of terrible comments written about them that it is Carole who is tied to putting up false comments and faking comments. Not Theresa of NJ. Not Brandi of Beverly Hills. Not even Jill, Chutulu praise her name. There was some controversy as I recall about Jill and Amazon but not so much in the comments section of the Bravo blog. Or am I misremembering this?

 

I don't know anyone who has a definitive answer since it is extremely unlikely that Bravo will give up that information. Now as you say we can only rely on the "Word on the Street." Let's ask Brandi the next time she walks by. Just sayn'

Aviva 2.0

[MatildaMoody]

I find it interesting that of all the many "hated" housewives who have buckets and buckets of terrible comments written about them that it is Carole who is tied to putting up false comments and faking comments. Not Theresa of NJ. Not Brandi of Beverly Hills. Not even Jill, Chutulu praise her name. There was some controversy as I recall about Jill and Amazon but not so much in the comments section of the Bravo blog. Or am I misremembering this?

 

Why is it that the fickle finger of fate is pointing at dear sweet organic free range butter wouldn't melt in her mouth Carole? Could it be that she is the only housewife who proudly stated she spent her free time altering data on the Internet to suit her fancy? Or is it Parkay?

 

I don't know anyone who has a definitive answer since it is extremely unlikely that Bravo will give up that information. Now as you say we can only rely on the "Word on the Street." Let's ask Brandi the next time she walks by. Just sayn'

Sorry boo. I tried to explain and it turned into "word soup." Just look me up because I totally love your hatred. 

 

I love your hatred of Carole. Even though I love Carole. I don't think I can say anything else without it turning into word soup.

[archer1267]

She was asking for votes, in CAPS! for the Best Housewife Ever Award on E.  Did she win?

 

 

Don't know but for whatever it's worth, Aviva did the same on Twitter.

 

Also in "FWIW" territory:

 

Years ago there was a Top Chef contestant that drove me nuts. I tried changing her age on the Wikipedia page (yes, it was catty and immature). It changed back within the hour. I did it a couple of times - same thing. I gave up. Whatever Carole's doing to mess with people's Wiki pages, I'm sure there's someone vigilant out there who's changing it back…and within 24 hours.

 

I have left numerous blog comments at the Bravo site over the past few years. I'd guess that half of them never appeared. For this season of RHONY, most of my comments admittedly were negative and meant for Aviva. Only a couple of those saw the light of day. I don't buy that Carole is the only cast member who's been "protected" or favored by the approval pixies.

[motorcitymom65]

I have always thought the notion that all any of these gals DIDN'T have folks on their side posting comments on various blogs and sites to be ludicrous. That doesn't have to mean it is a concentrated effort, bit if I were on a show like this my many sibs, my parents, in-laws, friends, etc., would most definatey be posting away on my behalf. I would imagine they are all equal in that regard.

I have been an active commentator on the Bravo blogs off and on since they began. As is often the case, I would occassionally find I had been banned. Of course no one bothered to tell you this, you just noticed because your comments were suddenly not noted as being "in moderation" which meant you saw them, but the rest of the community did not. You were basically "shadow banned". This happened to me over and over in the 4 or so years I was there. You would need to use another email address and change your name to post again as a new commentator. I was willing to do this to try and figure out what it was I had done to get shut down. What I concluded is that if I was posting rather vague comments about liking/not liking a HW, or sticking to pretty much the action we saw on camera, I was good to go. The problem seemed to be when you would speculate on things going on behind the scenes, discuss production or editing, or fault Bravo in some manner. That they didn't like. Many of those sorts of comments would never post, and then eventually, I would just get banned. The interesting part is that they had no issue with folks insulting or harassing other commentators. You could call someone stupid, tell them they "needed to watch the show again", or accuse them of being delusional, and Bravo seemed to love those comments. I guess that pretty much says it all.