Yolanda Hadid: My Love, My Lemons, My Lyme Disease.

[Higgins]

No one suffers more than Yolanda. How exhausting

[HumblePi]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/yolanda-foster-divorce-david-foster-selma-blair-cozy-dinner-date/

 

"Yolanda Foster‘s bitter divorce from her husband David Foster took a shocking turn this week when he was spotted at a “cozy” dinner with the much-younger actress Selma Blair, RadarOnline.com exclusively learned.

David, 66, and 43-year-old Blair didn’t try to hide the fact that they were together, having an intimate meal together at celebrity hot spot Craig’s in West Hollywood on Monday night.

“Selma and David were alone together at dinner and they looked really cozy,” an eyewitness told Radar.

Yolanda, now known as Yolanda Hadid, filed for divorce in late 2015 after multiple rumors that her husband was cheating surfaced."

 

I always figured that David was a cheating sack of poo. Beady eyed old creep.

Edited March 3, 2016 by HumblePi

[Higgins]

I didn't see the Oz interview, but I read this recap on reality tea: http://www.realitytea.com/2016/03/01/yolanda-foster-lyme-disease-dr-oz-hepatitis-epstein-barr/

So, after slogging through all the obvious bullshit, a couple of statements stood out and made me wonder if her main issue is severe depression or bipolar disorder, mostly this part where she talks about her children.

There were several things that jumped out at me beyond the first part about not wanting to live except for the kids. I don't have a lot of experience with depression (a couple friends through the years), but when I was a teacher, I had a student whose father had manic depression and the mother used to have to take them to the neighbors in the middle of the night when dad was having an 'episode'. Yo's description of Gigi having to drive her to the hospital reminds me of that. If she was "bawling, like on the floor" from pain, then why didn't she call an ambulance instead of putting her kids through all those midnight (or 3am) runs? I can't imagine asking my 16 or 17 year old to drive under those conditions.

Also, the part about being in a bathrobe for years. I know it is an exaggeration, but even if she went through periods where she did that for days or weeks, that is a red flag to me. I have a chronic illness and kids the same age as hers. There are days when I take the shortest, most basic shower I can manage and throw on whatever clothes happen to be clean and handy, but I can't imagine spending days in a bathrobe. That sounds like she may be too depressed to get dressed.

Finally, her description of her own mother's chronic illness and migraines that kept her in bed for days. Depression has a genetic component, which made me wonder.

I know chronic illness can cause periods of depression. I deal with it occasionally myself, but I wonder if depression came first or is a bigger issue than any chronic illness she may have. Obviously I could be completely wrong. It could be that all those statements about her kids are just exaggerations for sympathy-just like the Instagram picture in the article of WoeYo curled up in fetal position on the beach.

Edited for clarity because my own brain is a mess after trying to make sense of that interview.

 

I live for the days I can stay at home in my jammies.

[ElDosEquis]

My question is what is the point of the board?  Is it a visual aid for when her Hollywood are forced to visit while filming?  I am hoping she will have a timeline like a police investigation next time.

 

Did anyone get a screen shoot of the meds she had taken? 

It saves her from going thru ALL the names of the symptoms/meds and possibilities, she can whip out her phone and show them to anyone (I have had some of those symptoms in my life, I should go get tested *wink, wink*) and get an immediate connection to whoever sees them.

 

It is true, the more people she convinces she is ill, the more sympathy she garners.

 

Again, 100 doctors?

 

 I get the feeling that when a physician TRIES to call a colleague in Sri Lanka or Botswana

to discuss yoyo's last visit or treatment, they get discouraged when they get a 'this number isn't in service' message.

 

Dr ODD never questioned her about WHO said to take anything intravenously, or what 'disease' these  'treatments' were supposed cure.

 

If the 'crack staff' at the Oz show was only able to give her a giant list of her tests -with negative results listed? I want to hope that it was a 'Fuck you, idiot' message to her, but I ain't holding hope that it is?

 

I have a visceral dislike of this asshole from a bunch of angles, As someone who worked in HC for a long time, as someone who has seen the way that 'healthcare sausage' is made and the way that people have abused the system???

 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2016 by ElDosEquis

[ElDosEquis]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/yolanda-foster-divorce-david-foster-selma-blair-cozy-dinner-date/

 

"Yolanda Foster‘s bitter divorce from her husband David Foster took a shocking turn this week when he was spotted at a “cozy” dinner with the much-younger actress Selma Blair, RadarOnline.com exclusively learned.

David, 66, and 43-year-old Blair didn’t try to hide the fact that they were together, having an intimate meal together at celebrity hot spot Craig’s in West Hollywood on Monday night.

“Selma and David were alone together at dinner and they looked really cozy,” an eyewitness told Radar.

Yolanda, now known as Yolanda Hadid, filed for divorce in late 2015 after multiple rumors that her husband was cheating surfaced."

 

I always figured that David was a cheating sack of poo. Beady eyed old creep.

I ask you this question,. "Beautiful (50) year old woman with complaint of Lyme and associated symptoms" or Hot 43 year old that wants to go out for dinner?

 

Some hypochondriac that wants to stay at home and drink beef bone soup and eat 30 pills a day while staring at the ceiling with brain fog or a 43 year old woman that wants to dress up and go out for a good time?

 

I am sorry but if I had a boat anchor for a wife and cut her free, I'd be sailing the high seas and looking to plunder some booty, real fast?

 

Edited March 3, 2016 by ElDosEquis

[nexxie]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/yolanda-foster-divorce-david-foster-selma-blair-cozy-dinner-date/

 

"Yolanda Foster‘s bitter divorce from her husband David Foster took a shocking turn this week when he was spotted at a “cozy” dinner with the much-younger actress Selma Blair, RadarOnline.com exclusively learned.

David, 66, and 43-year-old Blair didn’t try to hide the fact that they were together, having an intimate meal together at celebrity hot spot Craig’s in West Hollywood on Monday night.

“Selma and David were alone together at dinner and they looked really cozy,” an eyewitness told Radar.

Yolanda, now known as Yolanda Hadid, filed for divorce in late 2015 after multiple rumors that her husband was cheating surfaced."

 

I always figured that David was a cheating sack of poo. Beady eyed old creep.

He really is creepy - good riddance!

[kokapetl]

I wouldn't think Selma Blair is his type, she's brunette and flat.

[luleetuni]

Apparently her nearly lethal make out session with the calf at age 12 has just been changed to an invisible chronic disease hospital stay. I guess the Q fever didn't work out.

Poor calf, Yolanda's silent victim in all this. She just loved him and left him smearing his name in the press and then dropping him when something better and more dramatic came along.

Oh wow, David and Selma Blair would be amazing. He already married the ex mrs bruce Jenner, Linda Thompson and now possibly seeing the woman currently playing Kris on TV? Priceless.

[zoeysmom]

I ask you this question,. "Beautiful (50) year old woman with complaint of Lyme and associated symptoms" or Hot 43 year old that wants to go out for dinner?

 

Some hypochondriac that wants to stay at home and drink beef bone soup and eat 30 pills a day while staring at the ceiling with brain fog or a 43 year old woman that wants to dress up and go out for a good time?

 

I am sorry but if I had a boat anchor for a wife and cut her free, I'd be sailing the high seas and looking to plunder some booty, real fast?

 

You do know you are paving your way to hell with these statements. ;-)  With this group Yolanda should be thankful he waited until after she filed for divorce. 

[ElDosEquis]

Poor calf, Yolanda's silent victim in all this. She just loved him and left him smearing his name in the press and then dropping him when something better and more dramatic came along.

Oh wow, David and Selma Blair would be amazing. He already married the ex mrs bruce Jenner, Linda Thompson and now possibly seeing the woman currently playing Kris on TV? Priceless.

The world, to some people, never seems to expand?

 

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This past week I had

Muscle pain

weakness

headache

lethargy

cough

congestion

ear ache

vertigo

restlessness

 

Sounds familiar?

 

Nope- I had the flu.........

[zoeysmom]

Poor calf, Yolanda's silent victim in all this. She just loved him and left him smearing his name in the press and then dropping him when something better and more dramatic came along.

Oh wow, David and Selma Blair would be amazing. He already married the ex mrs bruce Jenner, Linda Thompson and now possibly seeing the woman currently playing Kris on TV? Priceless.

Much to Yolanda's chagrin, her make out calf was a female.  Laying the basis for Yolanda's theory that homosexuality is a choice. 

 

Maybe she is doing deep background into the sordid mess.

[ElDosEquis]

You do know you are paving your way to hell with these statements. ;-)  With this group Yolanda should be thankful he waited until after she filed for divorce. 

 

Paving my way to hell?

 

I'll be the guy waving the flag, trying to get people into the right lanes, on that highway....

 

They are both morons and you can take either side - the 'poor, sick wife' in search of a cure for a disease she may not have, or a guy who marries a woman and gets stuck with a loon that is spending money hand over fist for something she may not have? Just goes to the old adage that money can't buy you happiness - but you can rent an assload, and when that doesn't work?

 

IF I could wake up that close to the ocean every day? Life would be wonderful and I'd make the most of each one. I'd find ways to feel better, just with that view in the morning?

[quaintirene]

Do doctors really write "beautiful 48 years old women"?

Yoyo is completely insane point blank period.

Suppose the doctor actually wrote this:

"Beautiful" 48 year old woman...

Suggesting that she describes herself as beautiful. Another doctor would get an immediate insight into the patient's character and likely proclivities. It would be a fast and easy way of conveying important info.

[HumblePi]

I ask you this question,. "Beautiful (50) year old woman with complaint of Lyme and associated symptoms" or Hot 43 year old that wants to go out for dinner?

 

Some hypochondriac that wants to stay at home and drink beef bone soup and eat 30 pills a day while staring at the ceiling with brain fog or a 43 year old woman that wants to dress up and go out for a good time?

 

I am sorry but if I had a boat anchor for a wife and cut her free, I'd be sailing the high seas and looking to plunder some booty, real fast?

 

There's nothing wrong at all with David Foster dating a 43 year old woman since he's basically unattached and in the midst of a divorce. Whether Yolanda is genuinely suffering with symptoms of neurological Lyme disease or not isn't the issue. I don't doubt that David was supportive of Yolanda during the early stage of their marriage when she first became ill. Speaking not only as a nurse, but as someone who has had Lyme disease and whose uncle was one of the very few documented cases of Lyme disease in Connecticut in the 1980's, I feel I can speak with some level of knowledge. Varying degrees of permanent joint or nervous system damage may develop in individuals with late-stage Lyme disease. With that said, I can move on to the issue of David's various infidelities while still married to Yolanda.

 

The illness of a spouse shouldn't automatically give a free pass for the other to cheat, at least it doesn't within the realm of decency. Their marriage realistically folded back in 2012 when Yolanda was newly diagnosed and David had managed to stay faithful for about five minutes. Both David and Yolanda married for their own reasons. David Foster has an eye for beautiful, intelligent women. Yolanda was his trophy wife and she accepted him on those terms because David could provide her with what she wanted, fame and fortune. One hand washed the other and it shouldn't surprise anyone that as soon as Gigi and Bella because famous models, and Yolanda continued to manifest symptoms of long term neurological Lyme disease, David emotionally checked out. He's a narcissist that feels he's entitled to do whatever the Hell he wants to do and damn everyone else in his life, no matter who gets hurt.

 

David can't share the limelight with any woman, I mean it's just impossible for him. He isn't capable of being faithful to one woman, even if she's healthy. Some men shouldn't be married at all but it appears that these types keep getting married just to prove to themselves that they can be stable and faithful and they just can't so they fail every time. David Foster is one of those men. I could never give David Foster or any adulterer a free pass to cheat on their wife simply because they are the type of person that's unable to be faithful. Whether their wife is sick, has gained weight, isn't a good cook, dresses like a slob or doesn't comb her hair shouldn't be a reason for immoral behavior. If a man is a habitual adulterer he doesn't need a reason.

[Blondie]

Epstein-barr   I thought she said Guillaine-Barre. 

I must have diminished brain function!!!!  Sorry about that.

I guess that's one of the reasons I was so confused as to why she said it. 

I apologize.

[zoeysmom]

Paving my way to hell?

 

I'll be the guy waving the flag, trying to get people into the right lanes, on that highway....

 

They are both morons and you can take either side - the 'poor, sick wife' in search of a cure for a disease she may not have, or a guy who marries a woman and gets stuck with a loon that is spending money hand over fist for something she may not have? Just goes to the old adage that money can't buy you happiness - but you can rent an assload, and when that doesn't work?

 

IF I could wake up that close to the ocean every day? Life would be wonderful and I'd make the most of each one. I'd find ways to feel better, just with that view in the morning?

I am with you.  Since Yolanda is now backdating her illness, I wonder if there was full disclosure to David.  I guess we will know shortly if they settled their divorce.  So far David is still singing her praises.

 

I am with you on the view.  I can't imagine there is that much that takes her into LA proper weekly.  The frozen thing only takes 90 seconds. 

[zoeysmom]

There's nothing wrong at all with David Foster dating a 43 year old woman since he's basically unattached and in the midst of a divorce. Whether Yolanda is genuinely suffering with symptoms of neurological Lyme disease or not isn't the issue. I don't doubt that David was supportive of Yolanda during the early stage of their marriage when she first became ill. Speaking not only as a nurse, but as someone who has had Lyme disease and whose uncle was one of the very few documented cases of Lyme disease in Connecticut in the 1980's, I feel I can speak with some level of knowledge. Varying degrees of permanent joint or nervous system damage may develop in individuals with late-stage Lyme disease. With that said, I can move on to the issue of David's various infidelities while still married to Yolanda.

 

The illness of a spouse shouldn't automatically give a free pass for the other to cheat, at least it doesn't within the realm of decency. Their marriage realistically folded back in 2012 when Yolanda was newly diagnosed and David had managed to stay faithful for about five minutes. Both David and Yolanda married for their own reasons. David Foster has an eye for beautiful, intelligent women. Yolanda was his trophy wife and she accepted him on those terms because David could provide her with what she wanted, fame and fortune. One hand washed the other and it shouldn't surprise anyone that as soon as Gigi and Bella because famous models, and Yolanda continued to manifest symptoms of long term neurological Lyme disease, David emotionally checked out. He's a narcissist that feels he's entitled to do whatever the Hell he wants to do and damn everyone else in his life, no matter who gets hurt.

 

David can't share the limelight with any woman, I mean it's just impossible for him. He isn't capable of being faithful to one woman, even if she's healthy. Some men shouldn't be married at all but it appears that these types keep getting married just to prove to themselves that they can be stable and faithful and they just can't so they fail every time. David Foster is one of those men. I could never give David Foster or any adulterer a free pass to cheat on their wife simply because they are the type of person that's unable to be faithful. Whether their wife is sick, has gained weight, isn't a good cook, dresses like a slob or doesn't comb her hair shouldn't be a reason for immoral behavior. If a man is a habitual adulterer he doesn't need a reason.

Just a question-do you suppose in the five or so years he "dated" (before marriage) Yolanda he was in a committed relationship to her?  That seems like a long time to find out what a person is all about.

[WireWrap]

There's nothing wrong at all with David Foster dating a 43 year old woman since he's basically unattached and in the midst of a divorce. Whether Yolanda is genuinely suffering with symptoms of neurological Lyme disease or not isn't the issue. I don't doubt that David was supportive of Yolanda during the early stage of their marriage when she first became ill. Speaking not only as a nurse, but as someone who has had Lyme disease and whose uncle was one of the very few documented cases of Lyme disease in Connecticut in the 1980's, I feel I can speak with some level of knowledge. Varying degrees of permanent joint or nervous system damage may develop in individuals with late-stage Lyme disease. With that said, I can move on to the issue of David's various infidelities while still married to Yolanda.

 

The illness of a spouse shouldn't automatically give a free pass for the other to cheat, at least it doesn't within the realm of decency. Their marriage realistically folded back in 2012 when Yolanda was newly diagnosed and David had managed to stay faithful for about five minutes. Both David and Yolanda married for their own reasons. David Foster has an eye for beautiful, intelligent women. Yolanda was his trophy wife and she accepted him on those terms because David could provide her with what she wanted, fame and fortune. One hand washed the other and it shouldn't surprise anyone that as soon as Gigi and Bella because famous models, and Yolanda continued to manifest symptoms of long term neurological Lyme disease, David emotionally checked out. He's a narcissist that feels he's entitled to do whatever the Hell he wants to do and damn everyone else in his life, no matter who gets hurt.

 

David can't share the limelight with any woman, I mean it's just impossible for him. He isn't capable of being faithful to one woman, even if she's healthy. Some men shouldn't be married at all but it appears that these types keep getting married just to prove to themselves that they can be stable and faithful and they just can't so they fail every time. David Foster is one of those men. I could never give David Foster or any adulterer a free pass to cheat on their wife simply because they are the type of person that's unable to be faithful. Whether their wife is sick, has gained weight, isn't a good cook, dresses like a slob or doesn't comb her hair shouldn't be a reason for immoral behavior. If a man is a habitual adulterer he doesn't need a reason.

I really think that if David cheated on Yolanda during their marriage, we would have read about it in the tabloids long before now.

[HumblePi]

Just a question-do you suppose in the five or so years he "dated" (before marriage) Yolanda he was in a committed relationship to her?  That seems like a long time to find out what a person is all about.

I don't believe that David Foster even knows what the meaning of a 'committed relationship' is.  He's a philanderer and cheater. He cheated on his other 3 marriages besides Yolanda's.

 

Here's a short video of David giving a toast to Yolanda and his kind words to her just before their wedding. Take notice of the very first seconds when he stood to toast her. A couple of friends hand David a little piece of paper with 'Yolanda' written on it. It's a joke of course, but it's a very telling joke since those friends were essentially saying 'here David, in case you forgot her name'. David is a womanizer, and will always be a womanizer. He's NPD and will never 'settle' for one woman for life.

https://youtu.be/6B5RmLXdfSQ

[Wings]

I didn't see the Oz interview, but I read this recap on reality tea: http://www.realitytea.com/2016/03/01/yolanda-foster-lyme-disease-dr-oz-hepatitis-epstein-barr/

So, after slogging through all the obvious bullshit, a couple of statements stood out and made me wonder if her main issue is severe depression or bipolar disorder, mostly this part where she talks about her children.

There were several things that jumped out at me beyond the first part about not wanting to live except for the kids. I don't have a lot of experience with depression (a couple friends through the years), but when I was a teacher, I had a student whose father had manic depression and the mother used to have to take them to the neighbors in the middle of the night when dad was having an 'episode'. Yo's description of Gigi having to drive her to the hospital reminds me of that. If she was "bawling, like on the floor" from pain, then why didn't she call an ambulance instead of putting her kids through all those midnight (or 3am) runs? I can't imagine asking my 16 or 17 year old to drive under those conditions.

Also, the part about being in a bathrobe for years. I know it is an exaggeration, but even if she went through periods where she did that for days or weeks, that is a red flag to me. I have a chronic illness and kids the same age as hers. There are days when I take the shortest, most basic shower I can manage and throw on whatever clothes happen to be clean and handy, but I can't imagine spending days in a bathrobe. That sounds like she may be too depressed to get dressed.

Finally, her description of her own mother's chronic illness and migraines that kept her in bed for days. Depression has a genetic component, which made me wonder.

I know chronic illness can cause periods of depression. I deal with it occasionally myself, but I wonder if depression came first or is a bigger issue than any chronic illness she may have. Obviously I could be completely wrong. It could be that all those statements about her kids are just exaggerations for sympathy-just like the Instagram picture in the article of WoeYo curled up in fetal position on the beach.

Edited for clarity because my own brain is a mess after trying to make sense of that interview.

 

 

It is impossible to separate fact from fiction.  She is not bipolar; that is a serious condition that is easily diagnosed, medicated and monitored.  

 

She is dramatic and lies.  Who knows what is up with her.  Her children must know she is lying about things they would have witnessed.  They know she did not spend days/weeks/years in a bathrobe (time varies with her).  I doubt they will speak out against her but it may make them question the therapies they are doing at her request and even if they really have Lyme.  

 

Oh to have been a fly on the wall to watch David viewing her on Dr Oz.   I would think it might be needed for the divorce if she claims she cannot support her medical expenses.   One year ago she made a youtube video about entertaining.  There is a lot of proof on film to contradict her claims.  

 

David must be very happy to be free from this nonsense. 

[Satchels of gold]

I thought it was odd that she didn't cry until Dr. oz asked her how much she has spent on treatment. Maybe that really is the breaking point of the marriage.

[Wings]

I thought it was odd that she didn't cry until Dr. oz asked her how much she has spent on treatment. Maybe that really is the breaking point of the marriage.

 

I think that may have been the straw.  

 

When we first met Yolanda she was into doing lemon cleanses and even talked Brandi into doing one (don't think she finished it).  She would exclaim its benefits and how good she felt.  She was a major advocate of health and the benefits of lemons.  She is the one who had the many trees planted. 

 

At this point her Lyme had been cured according to David.  He claimed she did have it at one point.  I believe him.  

 

Then seemingly overnight her health fell apart.   Before his eyes he watched his wife go down this crazy and expensive path.  Too much for him so he got out.  As for whose idea it was to split, I say it was David and call bullshit on him cheating as the reason.  The record shows she filed but since there is a stigma attached your spouse filing against you, especially if you are a woman, he allowed her to file.  It didn't matter since the relationship was over.   

 

Why would she want to divorce a famous, wealthy man?  She wanted to do this show so she could create a lifestyle show of her own. She wants fame.  David would be an asset.  She has passed the trophy wife age.  

[kokapetl]

I think that may have been the straw.

When we first met Yolanda she was into doing lemon cleanses and even talked Brandi into doing one (don't think she finished it). She would exclaim its benefits and how good she felt. She was a major advocate of health and the benefits of lemons. She is the one who had the many trees planted.

At this point her Lyme had been cured according to David. He claimed she did have it at one point. I believe him.

Then seemingly overnight her health fell apart. Before his eyes he watched his wife go down this crazy and expensive path. Too much for him so he got out. As for whose idea it was to split, I say it was David and call bullshit on him cheating as the reason. The record shows she filed but since there is a stigma attached your spouse filing against you, especially if you are a woman, he allowed her to file. It didn't matter since the relationship was over.

Why would she want to divorce a famous, wealthy man? She wanted to do this show so she could create a lifestyle show of her own. She wants fame. David would be an asset. She has passed the trophy wife age.

Yolanda's Lyme, whether it's real or not, has come at a very high cost to Yolanda. That's why I believe she believes it. I don't believe it's the correct diagnosis.

[Wings]

Yolanda's Lyme, whether it's real or not, has come at a very high cost to Yolanda. That's why I believe she believes it. I don't believe it's the correct diagnosis.

 

 

Yes.  I think she believes it, too.  She has become obsessed, and at this point has many diagnoses .   Probably none of them are correct given the credentials of her doctors in Europe.  

[Higgins]

What Are the Symptoms of Factitious Disorders?

Possible warning signs of factitious disorders include:
•Dramatic but inconsistent medical history
•Unclear symptoms that are not controllable and that become more severe or change once treatment has begun
•Predictable relapses following improvement in the condition
•Extensive knowledge of hospitals and/or medical terminology, as well as the textbook descriptions of illness
•Presence of many surgical scars
•Appearance of new or additional symptoms following negative test results

 

You be the judge.
•Presence of symptoms only when the patient is with others or being observed
•Willingness or eagerness to have medical tests, operations, or other procedures
•History of seeking treatment at many hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices, possibly even in different cities
•Reluctance by the patient to allow health care professionals to meet with or talk to family members, friends, and prior doctors

[Fuzzysox]

What Are the Symptoms of Factitious Disorders?

Possible warning signs of factitious disorders include:

•Dramatic but inconsistent medical history

•Unclear symptoms that are not controllable and that become more severe or change once treatment has begun

•Predictable relapses following improvement in the condition

•Extensive knowledge of hospitals and/or medical terminology, as well as the textbook descriptions of illness

•Presence of many surgical scars

•Appearance of new or additional symptoms following negative test results

 

You be the judge.

•Presence of symptoms only when the patient is with others or being observed

•Willingness or eagerness to have medical tests, operations, or other procedures

•History of seeking treatment at many hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices, possibly even in different cities

•Reluctance by the patient to allow health care professionals to meet with or talk to family members, friends, and prior doctors

Bingo!

[WireWrap]

What Are the Symptoms of Factitious Disorders?

Possible warning signs of factitious disorders include:

•Dramatic but inconsistent medical history

•Unclear symptoms that are not controllable and that become more severe or change once treatment has begun

•Predictable relapses following improvement in the condition

•Extensive knowledge of hospitals and/or medical terminology, as well as the textbook descriptions of illness

•Presence of many surgical scars

•Appearance of new or additional symptoms following negative test results

 

You be the judge.

•Presence of symptoms only when the patient is with others or being observed

•Willingness or eagerness to have medical tests, operations, or other procedures

•History of seeking treatment at many hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices, possibly even in different cities

•Reluctance by the patient to allow health care professionals to meet with or talk to family members, friends, and prior doctors

All of the above is AKA.....YOLANDA! LOL

[Wings]

What Are the Symptoms of Factitious Disorders?

Possible warning signs of factitious disorders include:

•Dramatic but inconsistent medical history

•Unclear symptoms that are not controllable and that become more severe or change once treatment has begun

•Predictable relapses following improvement in the condition

•Extensive knowledge of hospitals and/or medical terminology, as well as the textbook descriptions of illness

•Presence of many surgical scars

•Appearance of new or additional symptoms following negative test results

 

You be the judge.

•Presence of symptoms only when the patient is with others or being observed

•Willingness or eagerness to have medical tests, operations, or other procedures

•History of seeking treatment at many hospitals, clinics, and doctors offices, possibly even in different cities

•Reluctance by the patient to allow health care professionals to meet with or talk to family members, friends, and prior doctors

 

 

There it is!  Finally a diagnosis that fits.  This list of symptoms is tailor made for her.  

[Vicky8675309]

All of the above is AKA.....YOLANDA! LOL

 

 

There it is!  Finally a diagnosis that fits.  This list of symptoms is tailor made for her.  

 

Lol, Lisa knew this all along;-)

Factitious Disorder (imposed on self) = Munchausen Syndrome

[zulualpha]

Relevant California code

I think she got the spousal support waiver with Mohamed set aside because she really did need the spousal support. She had no assets, she was an unskilled long in the tooth former model, and Mohammed was worth tens of millions, maybe over a hundred million.

The article that was posted about what Yolanda got from "the mega wealthy Hadid" stated that she got a 6 million dollar Malibu mansion, 3 million cash and 10k/month spousal support.  He probably paid the kids' support as well although it wasn't listed.  To a lot of people this sounds like big bucks but from what I've seen in the world of the  Beverly Hills area it's chicken feed.  Six million is a starter home in Malibu, 3 million cash is squat and 10k wouldn't pay Yolanda's shoe bill for the month.  IIRC  Camille got more than 30 million from Kelsey plus several very beautiful homes in places like Hawaii and Aspen.  Sounds to me like contrary to being a gold digger, Yolanda got ripped off.

Nobody can ever know what really goes on in a marriage.  Yolanda and David seem to be trying to keep it as classy as possible and good for them.  David seems to be loved by the Hadid children and was from what I can see, good to Yolanda and her mother.  Did he cheat?  Was she an insuferable pain in the ass?  Who knows?  All I know is watching her on the show when she broke down a little at her dinner party and we now know she was in the midst of her marriage breaking up, it broke my heart!

[Satchels of gold]

Omg, my second hand embarrassment issues are flaring up.

[MatildaMoody]

The article that was posted about what Yolanda got from "the mega wealthy Hadid" stated that she got a 6 million dollar Malibu mansion, 3 million cash and 10k/month spousal support.  He probably paid the kids' support as well although it wasn't listed.  To a lot of people this sounds like big bucks but from what I've seen in the world of the  Beverly Hills area it's chicken feed.  Six million is a starter home in Malibu, 3 million cash is squat and 10k wouldn't pay Yolanda's shoe bill for the month.  IIRC  Camille got more than 30 million from Kelsey plus several very beautiful homes in places like Hawaii and Aspen.  Sounds to me like contrary to being a gold digger, Yolanda got ripped off.

Nobody can ever know what really goes on in a marriage.  Yolanda and David seem to be trying to keep it as classy as possible and good for them.  David seems to be loved by the Hadid children and was from what I can see, good to Yolanda and her mother.  Did he cheat?  Was she an insuferable pain in the ass?  Who knows?  All I know is watching her on the show when she broke down a little at her dinner party and we now know she was in the midst of her marriage breaking up, it broke my heart!

 

I thought she also got 10k a month per child for child support? 

[kokapetl]

I thought she also got 10k a month per child for child support?

She got $10,000 a month per child (under 18), plus $10,000 a month for herself until she remarried. It's a lot, but Mohamed's net worth is estimated at over $100,000,000.

Here's Yolly with her brother. The bleach flowed freely in the '90s.

[Wings]

Lol, Lisa knew this all along;-)

Factitious Disorder (imposed on self) = Munchausen Syndrome

 

 

I thought with Munchhausen you literally made yourself sick as opposed to imagining ills.  I guess that has changed.  I read about it years ago when I first heard about Munchhausen by proxy where mothers would feed their infants formula with a lot of salt to make them sick and then turn into the "good" mother who stayed at the hospital around the clock to be with their child.  

 

 

"How Common Are Factitious Disorders?

There are no reliable statistics regarding the number of people in the U.S. who suffer from factitious disorders. Obtaining accurate statistics is difficult because dishonesty is common with this condition. In addition, people with factitious disorders tend to seek treatment at many different health care facilities, which can lead to statistics that are misleading. "

 

Another bingo!  

[Higgins]

It's a spectrum so it presents in differing ways and severities from outright physical abuse to self or others to more subtle less extreme examples.

[Vicky8675309]

It's similar to malingering however with malingering there is external gain (like faking a injury to get money in a lawsuit; faking a pain disorder to get pain meds to abuse, or faking illness to void a prenup). With factitious disorder it is for internal gain (the sick role). 

 

I guess, to complicate matters even more, they can co-exist (be co-morbidities). I found this on UpToDate:

"If malingering and factitious disorder are comorbid, diagnosing factitious disorder requires clinicians to determine that the patient is taking surreptitious actions to misrepresent, simulate, or cause symptoms beyond what one would expect in order to obtain external rewards. As an example, drug seeking may be present, but this does not account for the pervasiveness of the abnormal illness behavior"

[kokapetl]

Yolanda doesn't seem to hide her medical history or treatments from her family, and she seems perfectly fine with her family meeting her doctors.

I don't think she's faking illness for internal reward either. She's an externally validated type of person, and she's getting a pitiful amount of it from Instagram compared to what she used to receive in real life.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Kokapetl

[zoeysmom]

I thought it was odd that she didn't cry until Dr. oz asked her how much she has spent on treatment. Maybe that really is the breaking point of the marriage.

I know the thought of the amount she has racked up makes me want to cry.

[tenativelyyours]

^

Yeah I'd say she is an example of both.

 

 

I thought it was odd that she didn't cry until Dr. oz asked her how much she has spent on treatment. Maybe that really is the breaking point of the marriage.

 

I am thinking you might be right.  Well I am presuming.  I should say I am thinking Yoolander decided to end it when he decided to stop seeing any of his money go down the drain and perhaps told her if she wanted to pursue crazy then she had to dip into her own accounts.

 

Or worse, he was worried he was going to ask just one too many times for use of his friends private planes for Yoolander to go Don Quixote all those Windmills of poor health she claims and tried to close that down so it wouldn't impinge on his own luxury travel. I can see having that taken away and being forced to rub elbows with the commercial flying masses a deal breaker when it comes to Yoolander as her ever constant malingering journey takes her from bed to thousands of miles of journey in the skies.

[bosawks]

http://youtu.be/5LvobqBG_8c

Omg, my second hand embarrassment issues are flaring up.

 

WTF was that!

 

Narcissus is watching that going, "Whoa, ratchet it down a notch."

Edited March 3, 2016 by bosawks

[Wings]

Yolanda doesn't seem to hide her medical history or treatments from her family, and she seems perfectly fine with her family meeting her doctors.

 

 

People with this disorder do not hide their medical history.  That is proof they are sick.  Who knows how many of her family and friends have met her many "doctors."  

[zoeysmom]

Yolanda doesn't seem to hide her medical history or treatments from her family, and she seems perfectly fine with her family meeting her doctors.

This present round of doctors are specious.  I would be curious to see what the Cedars Sinai folks had to say about her or what they told her family.  Oh they did comment. . . .Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Yolanda just wanted something more.  I can almost guarantee no one at Cedars Sinai said her brain was inflamed and just released her to Gigi and the non Gigis.  What begs the question about the seriousness of her illness is why isn't she being kept in the hospital after presenting in the ER with these symptoms?  Brain on fire or whatever she claims.

 

Not that I think Oz did a good job but he masterfully dodged the bullet by making ZERO comments about Yolanda's tests and results other than the massive volume of them.  He showed a scan of her implants and obviously explained where there was leakage-but did not follow up with a clear scan.  Nor did he comment on her cleanses, cryotherapy, foot soaking, enemas, colonics or use of herbs.  All he asked if there were treatments she regretted having. 

 

I am thinking Oz probably has a lifetime of front row seats at David Foster events.

 

Yolanda's Lyme, whether it's real or not, has come at a very high cost to Yolanda. That's why I believe she believes it. I don't believe it's the correct diagnosis.

 

Yolanda has pretty much dashed her hopes of being the next Martha Stewart and managed to flush a second marriage down the crapper.

 

Omg, my second hand embarrassment issues are flaring up.

Did Yolanda write the song? The words did not go together.

[Vicky8675309]

Yolanda doesn't seem to hide her medical history or treatments from her family, and she seems perfectly fine with her family meeting her doctors.

I don't think she's faking illness for internal reward either. She's an externally validated type of person, and she's getting a pitiful amount of it from Instagram compared to what she used to receive in real life.

 

You don't have to have all of them to have it.

 

It should be emphasize that WE (I/YOU/ALL OF US) CAN NOT DIAGNOSE A PERSON BASED ON AN EDITED REALITY SHOW especially when I/we/you don't know them. I think we are theorizing about a character. Even if she goes on multiple shows with the same character, unless you/I/we are her physician and have seen and treated her and have her approval then it's nothing but guessing about a made up character.

 

I'm back to what I thought prior to this season: somatoform disorder undifferentiated. I think she unconsciously produces these symptoms that are real to her but they are not due to a physical problem. I think it is done for internal reward (unconscious motivation for internal reward). The sick role is the reward....she gets attention, out of reunions, etc. Unconscious motivation for internal reward (that she isn't consciously conscious of...lol, I'm repeating myself.

 

Here is what I found about the diagnostic criteria for factitious disorder (munchausen disorder) from UpToDate:

"Diagnostic criteria — We suggest diagnosing factitious disorder imposed on self according to the criteria in DSM-5, which require each of the following [1]:

●Falsification of physical or psychological signs or symptoms, or induction of injury or disease, associated with identified deception

●The individual presents himself or herself to others as ill, impaired, or injured

●The deceptive behavior is evident even in the absence of obvious external rewards

●The behavior is not better explained by another mental disorder, such as delusional disorder or another psychotic disorder

The diagnosis of factitious disorder requires objective identification of illness falsification behaviors and evidence of deception, rather than inference about intent or possible underlying motivation.

DSM-5 specifies the course of illness in factitious disorder as follows [1]:

●Singe episode

●Recurrent episodes"

 

This all is just a guess and I have no idea if Yolanda is/was sick and no idea of her psychological/mental state. It could all be acting for all I know. I've never met the woman. The character as represented in this edited show sure does sound alarm bells for somatoform disorder imo (unprofessional opinion).

Edited March 3, 2016 by Vicky8675309

[Wings]

I looked up somatoform.  Interesting, it sure seems she could have either but somatoform seems a better fit.  I get it that we are not informed enough to know what is going on with her but she presented enough on Dr Oz to make it possible for a professional to get a head start on a diagnosis!  

 

I don't think it is a stretch for any of us to see that one of these conditions is afoot. We have seen more than a doctor would on first meeting.  It takes time and research to discover inconsistencies which can involve dishonesty and fabrication.  We have done that work for them!  Ta da!  

Edited March 3, 2016 by wings707

[kokapetl]

You don't have to have all of them to have it.

It should be emphasize that WE (I/YOU/ALL OF US) CAN NOT DIAGNOSE A PERSON BASED ON AN EDITED REALITY SHOW especially when I/we/you don't know them. I think we are theorizing about a character. Even if she goes on multiple shows with the same character, unless you/I/we are her physician and have seen and treated her and have her approval then it's nothing but guessing about a made up character.

I'm back to what I thought prior to this season: somatoform disorder undifferentiated. I think she unconsciously produces these symptoms that are real to her but they are not due to a physical problem. I think it is done for internal reward (unconscious motivation for internal reward). The sick role is the reward....she gets attention, out of reunions, etc. Unconscious motivation for internal reward (that she isn't consciously conscious of...lol, I'm repeating myself.

Here is what I found about the diagnostic criteria for factitious disorder (munchausen disorder) from UpToDate:

"Diagnostic criteria — We suggest diagnosing factitious disorder imposed on self according to the criteria in DSM-5, which require each of the following [1]:

●Falsification of physical or psychological signs or symptoms, or induction of injury or disease, associated with identified deception

●The individual presents himself or herself to others as ill, impaired, or injured

●The deceptive behavior is evident even in the absence of obvious external rewards

●The behavior is not better explained by another mental disorder, such as delusional disorder or another psychotic disorder

The diagnosis of factitious disorder requires objective identification of illness falsification behaviors and evidence of deception, rather than inference about intent or possible underlying motivation.

DSM-5 specifies the course of illness in factitious disorder as follows [1]:

●Singe episode

●Recurrent episodes"

This all is just a guess and I have no idea if Yolanda is/was sick and no idea of her psychological/mental state. It could all be acting for all I know. I've never met the woman. The character as represented in this edited show sure does sound alarm bells for somatoform disorder imo (unprofessional opinion).

I agree that somatic symptom disorder is a possibility. I think its important to note that somatic symptom disorders are not the result of conscious malingering (fabricating or exaggerating symptoms for secondary motives) or factitious disorders (deliberately producing, feigning, or exaggerating symptoms. Yolanda is not lying.

[Satchels of gold]

To address Zooysmom's point Dr. oz was very careful to say " yolanda beleives that these ionic foot baths remove toxins from the body". He did that throughout the interview with all of her claims. I will eat my hat if Dr. Oz really beleives any of this crap. He may have sold his soul to the devil but he still has a brain.

She also said that after she came back from a treatment in Germany David insisted that she get a body scan before she got any more treatments. Why oh why can't she see the only real help she's ever gotten is from traditional medicine ? You would think she would learn after contracting hepatitis.

[Vicky8675309]

I agree that somatic symptom disorder is a possibility. I think its important to note that somatic symptom disorders are not the result of conscious malingering (fabricating or exaggerating symptoms for secondary motives) or factitious disorders (deliberately producing, feigning, or exaggerating symptoms. Yolanda is not lying.

 

lol, that's why I kept repeating myself about somatoform disorders being unconsciously motivated (as opposed to consciously faked).

 

The only difference between factitious disorder (munchausen) and malingering, from my understanding, is the gain (not the motivation). With factitious disorder the faked symptoms are for internal gain (attention, etc) whereas with malingering the faking is for external gain (pain medicines, money from lawsuits). I do find this fascinating.

 

Yo maybe a special snowflake with all of these conditions....after all she is the topper or one upper....has the most or the worst or the etc....

[homeperm]

To address Zooysmom's point Dr. oz was very careful to say " yolanda beleives that these ionic foot baths remove toxins from the body". He did that throughout the interview with all of her claims. I will eat my hat if Dr. Oz really beleives any of this crap. He may have sold his soul to the devil but he still has a brain.

She also said that after she came back from a treatment in Germany David insisted that she get a body scan before she got any more treatments. Why oh why can't she see the only real help she's ever gotten is from traditional medicine ? You would think she would learn after contracting hepatitis.

I noticed that Oz was covering his ass, too. There is no way in hell he believes her.

 

I think your 'sold his soul to the devil' comment is spot on. He's a real doctor and he's a good/great one, but TV has corrupted him. The fame and easy money is understandably hard to resist.

 

But! While he's subtly covering his ass, legally, he's giving a pass to dangerous misinformation and products. I can't believe he does it under the title Dr. Oz. He's as bad as Yolanda is.

 

I'm really glad that the tide seems to be turning on Yolanda. I am white-hot irritated with the anti-science vibe that's happening right now. Who wants to live in the Dark Ages?

[Higgins]

She is lying. She did not spend 18 months in bed staring at the ceiling unable to read or watch TV. It did not happen.

[Higgins]

Oz has "endorsed" many of those very stupid bullshit treatments Yolanda is getting. He is just being careful now because Congress dragged his ass in to defend his promotion of junk medicine and his lawyers probably told him to tone down the propaganda or else risk liability.

Edited March 4, 2016 by Higgins