Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

[Mkay]

2 minutes ago, druzy said:

Why are they not taking Kaiser’s word for it?! I mean, if my daughter said someone hit her with a stick (when she was 4) I’d believe her. 

1 minute ago, druzy said:

UBT was F***ed up and scary in that video. 

I couldn’t watch it I hate him so bad.  

[smhjess]

2 minutes ago, Mkay said:

Why are they not taking Kaiser’s word for it?! I mean, if my daughter said someone hit her with a stick (when she was 4) I’d believe her. 

I couldn’t watch it I hate him so bad.  

It’s really hard to prove at this point where the bruises came from.  It will take a lot more abuse that is documented by CPS or Nathan to prevent him from being returned.  

[crazychicken]

Noo this is so wrong Kaiser is in more danger now and Doris probably knows it too.

 

The video is gone can somebody summarize please.

[druzy]

2 minutes ago, crazychicken said:

Noo this is so wrong Kaiser is in more danger now and Doris probably knows it too.

 

The video is gone can somebody summarize please.

The original one had UBT saying he had a knife in his pocket

Edited July 4, 2018 by druzy

[Mkay]

[smhjess]

They are the worst at pretending to be great parents.  They ask him if he wants to go see his siblings, dogs and his paw patrol bed like any 4 year old would not agree with his parents that he did want to do that.

[crazychicken]

Thanks @druzy and @mkay

OMG it is all a power move to him going live to show that he won again. So much talking crap and fake affection to prove he is the man. Those clips gives me chills so many abuser vibes and Kai seemed so innocent. I really fear for his safety.

[druzy]

@Mkay this is from the Twitter account who tweeted the video you posted. She also said she has the full video and will be posting it.

David is disgusting. 

[Mkay]

 

3 minutes ago, druzy said:

@Mkay this is from the Twitter account who tweeted the video you posted. She also said she has the full video and will be posting it.

David is disgusting. 

@druzy It makes my blood pressure rise. I know I won’t be able to watch it. 

[druzy]

Part 2

Edited July 4, 2018 by druzy

[Purerockfury]

Where the hell is Nathan during all this? Holy crap that poor little Kaiser. I wonder if he’ll ever be able to go back to Doris’ after this. Jenyell and UBT will definitely be doing everything in their power to make sure Doris and Nathan never see that boy again. I’m so sad for Kaiser. 

[CaliforniaLove]

David is evil. As always, his priority is always to take weird creepy videos. 

[leighroda]

The thing is Doris wasn’t unlawfully holding Kaiser away from them... the law in that moment decided to have Kaiser stay with her, so I doubt that Jenelle and David will legally be able to keep Kaiser from his scheduled visitation. I don’t know why Nathan wasn’t there, but I think it was probably for the best, especially with David as belligerent as he was, had Nathan responded negatively it would have just fed into it, as it is now David just looks like an idiot.

[Purerockfury]

Apparently Nathan is in Florida. Makes

me sick if that’s true....

[crazychicken]

The world is scary place with the amount of people supporting these abusers and calling them great parents.

 

I can only hope that somehow this video comes back and bites them in the arse bigtime.

 

David is an idiot he says himself in the video the police said for Kaiser to stay with Doris. Also if Nathan had not been there all day how did he stop Kaiser from facetiming with him .

[LBS]

I watched the whole IG live video and it is so fucked up.  It’s all a vindication trip for the assclowns.  They are gaslighting this so hard.   I am so sorry for Kaiser tonight.

Edited July 4, 2018 by LBS

[crazychicken]

I am assuming that Doris was also informed by CPS that Kaiser needed to be returned so if Nathan had a flight it was probably better he was not there for handover. David was hyped enough with what seemed to be a calm handover, there was no trouble between Janelle & Doris they were at the door for quite awhile waiting for CPS clearance which I assume the police wanted before enforcing the return.

 

David is full of shit he said Nathan had not been there all weekend which we know is not true as he made the call Friday night & Sunday afternoon. Then he said he had not there all day yet he stopped the facetime call.

 

Nathan is still a piece of crap but I am assuming he left when he knew the outcome of the CPS investigation. What was the use of escalating the situation. Even though I would have loved to see David run like the sook he is if Nathan come out to use his 'talking words' I think David went there and pulled this stunt because he knew he was safe to talk crap without any agression in return. Posting it online was his way of proving to Nathan once again that he has control.

[Purerockfury]

[LBS]

Oh my God. Listen to what Kaiser says after David hugs him.  He’s all nervous about leaving with his toys and David tells Jenelle/us that Kaiser wants to show off his toys. Kaiser then looks at the toys and says ‘I have to hide my candy’.   His “father”day card explicitly states that David gets mad when he eats candy.  Oh Kaiser.  I’m so sorry for your abuse.  I wish adults didn’t f*ck you over.

[geauxaway]

I cannot.  CANNOT.  Anymore with this shit show.  This is real kids lives not some entertainment.  I am actually living this to a certain extent.  I have fostered a boy who is now 10, been in my care since he was 8. His parents are in prison.  They have signed TPR.  But it still breaks my heart every day.  I got new info on his case last week, as we are headed to adoption and they submitted the papers on his history.  It literally made me sick at work to read the full disclosure.  I knew a lot of it, but to read it word for word in writing is a whole different story.  Bringing it back to topic.....this is fucked up and these poor babies.  No words.  MTV makes me ill.  I hope that frizzy haired bitch knows what she is enabling.

[geauxaway]

I have cancelled any recordings off MTV except Jersey Shore Reunion and any future JS shows.  Haven’t recorded TM or TM2 in going on 2 years (exception being the Vee special and the Gary special).  Sad but not sad times when Snookie and JWoww become better moms and role models than these trash bags. 

[Mkay]

[heatherchandler]

He’s back with them???  

FUCK THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT!

[Mkay]

I feel like he is lying because he’s done this crap before.  

[Mkay]

[crazychicken]

So Nathan beat Kaiser and then called the police to report it.

 

[Mkay]

50 minutes ago, crazychicken said:

So Nathan beat Kaiser and then called the police to report it.

 

Omg. ??‍♀️ We saw the video of Kaiser saying David did it.  I really, really hate David and Jenelle.  I don’t say that often.  

Edited July 4, 2018 by Mkay

[Maharincess]

2 hours ago, geauxaway said:

I have cancelled any recordings off MTV except Jersey Shore Reunion and any future JS shows.  Haven’t recorded TM or TM2 in going on 2 years (exception being the Vee special and the Gary special).  Sad but not sad times when Snookie and JWoww become better moms and role models than these trash bags. 

Good for you.  I stopped watching a long time ago but still came here to catch up. I don't even know if I'll be able to come here anymore.  I don't follow these idiots anywhere but here so if I don't read here, I'll be blissfully ignorant.  

Maybe I'll finally start a social media... something and follow Chelsea. Which is the best social media thingy to do?

[Mkay]

The names he calls Nathan.  Such hatred.  

[geauxaway]

1 minute ago, Maharincess said:

Good for you.  I stopped watching a long time ago but still came here to catch up. I don't even know if I'll be able to come here anymore.  I don't follow these idiots anywhere but here so if I don't read here, I'll be blissfully ignorant.  

Maybe I'll finally start a social media... something and follow Chelsea. Which is the best social media thingy to do?

Not quite sure on that advice.  I don’t follow any of these fools on SM.  I get my updates on here and have a couple friends who still do watch the show.  

With all due respect, Chelsea is seeming to be a good person, but at the same time someone (anyone) needs to step up and end this madness.  She is participating by proxy.  Clearly MTV is not going to bow out.  And it’s not up to the one upstanding party (family) in this mess to put their foot down, but ay yi!  Everyone involved in the future production of this show from the lowly staff that fetches Kail’s Starbucks to the high ups and the TM’s are now contributing to child abuse as passive observers.

[Marley]

I just need someone to go and beat David into a fucking pulp then he goes to jail and is beaten by other prisoners for being a child abuser. That sounds insane but I can’t even follow this shit anymore. David is a fucking psycho and I just don’t get how anyone could let him have custody of any children. I feel sick hearing about this and this show needs to be done. I quit watching a while ago because watching these losers makes me sick.

[FairyDusted]

Omg! WTF!? I’m all out of words. ?

[Norwegian]

This makes me so sad ? David should be locked up and never be around kids! When (not if!) Kaiser gets hurt again I hope Doris sues CPS on Kaisers behalf! Imagine the horror he is enduring ?

[Calm81]

Where the fuck was Endsley during David’s creepy IG rant while Jenelle was “rescuing kaiser”? At home with mommy Marissa?? These poor kids have no fighting chance.

I stared at my 3 year old while she was sleeping last night cuddling with her favorite toy horse and could not imagine her being physically harmed in any way or to be yelled at for asking to go potty ...then I pictured Kaiser’s sweet little voice asking to go potty and being yelled at ?...he’s only 8 months older than my little girl and he’s already witnessed and endured too much nastiness in his short life. ?

Fuck you MTV for giving these two abusers a large platform to spew hate and large bank accounts where they don’t have to worry about anything and can keep procreating on the laaaaaaand while staying high playing on social media while the rest of us work hard for our life’s treasures and treat our kids right. 

I feel like parents should hashtag #boycottmtv to get Jenelle, or the whole franchise off the air unless they agree to go back to the original premise of the show with new castmembers every two years to keep their bankroll a minimum so they will still need REAL jobs.

ETA: I hope Jenelle is not pregnant and that David is messing with us..

Edited July 4, 2018 by Calm81

[configdotsys]

9 hours ago, druzy said:

UBT was F***ed up and scary in that video. 

I am seriously skeeved. My skin was crawling watching that video. This all feels so wrong to be watching on television. I feel like I'm not being a responsible person if I don't intervene or something but it feels helpless. There is no one-- not even the authorities-- looking out for this kid.

Airing this kind of thing on television is shameful but a small part of me thinks it would be more frightening if they vanished from view. I just don't know what to think of the people holding cameras there and recording things that might be seriously bad but never make it onto the air. Have they no concern whatsoever about abuse of small children?

[druzy]

On Monday, Jenelle & UBT called for a welfare check on Kaiser.

Edited July 4, 2018 by druzy

[ghoulina]

I bet the cops in that area get so fucking sick of the games. 

[configdotsys]

22 minutes ago, druzy said:

Who is that? Why are "they" assholes for calling a welfare check? Is that person a fan of Jenelle or something and is pissed that a call was made?

Okay so I just discovered something even more frightening than these two lunatics: the people on Twitter who love them! Someone posted that parents are soft and kids don't know the value of a spanking today and David has control in that house like that's a wonderful thing. Then we have the braindead moron who thinks that because Jenelle is smiling in all of her pictures that proves that everything is just swell.

I had to close the page. I just can't with these fucking people.
 

[mscav]

I think it's time to boycott all Viacom channels. They are complicit,  and in my opinion, encouraging child abuse for ratings. I do not use social media but would appreciate any advice on how to start a mass boycott.  I don't think boycotting the show alone will do anything.  I think hitting MTV, comedy central, and in particular Nickelodeon will hurt them more then anything.  It's one thing to say this trashy tv show promotes child abuse,  it's a more powerful impact to show that the owners of a children's network,  Nickelodeon, promote child abuse for ratings.

[crazychicken]

8 minutes ago, configdotsys said:

Who is that? Why are "they" assholes for calling a welfare check? Is that person a fan of Jenelle or something and is pissed that a call was made?

 

The welfare check was for Kaiser at Doris's house, it was probably in retaliation as UBT was pissed that he had no control

[gotta watch]

7 hours ago, Maharincess said:

Good for you.  I stopped watching a long time ago but still came here to catch up. I don't even know if I'll be able to come here anymore.  I don't follow these idiots anywhere but here so if I don't read here, I'll be blissfully ignorant.  

Maybe I'll finally start a social media... something and follow Chelsea. Which is the best social media thingy to do?

@Maharincess I would suggest following Chelsea on instagram. I check it pretty often and there are always cute (and appropriate) pics & videos.

[TheRealT]

11 hours ago, smhjess said:

They are the worst at pretending to be great parents. 

So true. Every time they are in "nice parent" mode it creeps me out how obviously fake they're being. I can only assume that there are no "nice, normal" moments between the episodes of abuse. And they were clearly lying about thinking Nathan put the marks on Kaiser (which was reason #19 I think on their list of "totally harmless and normal ways Kaiser might have gotten bruised"). If they truly believed that Nathan had beaten Kaiser, why weren't they remotely concerned about it? Why weren't they screaming their heads off for an investigation? Why weren't they like, "OMG, Kai, are you ok? I'm so sorry that your daddy hurt you!" Who "rescues" their kid from being kidnapped and beaten and greets the kid with, "Hey, buddy! Do you want to go home and play with your toys?" They are some sick pieces of shit who cannot even fake being "normal." Also, UBT was OBVIOUSLY high in that video. If he wasn't on drugs, he's seriously mentally ill (not saying he can't be both). His demeanor and affect (not to mention his words/behavior) were completely "off."

One of the creepiest/sickest things about UBT is how he thinks he's clever and he schemes to facilitate the abuse he knows he's going to perpetrate in the future. One of his tactics is accusing his accusers of doing the things he's doing. Barb called him out on his drug use, so he accused her of being an alcoholic and set up the video "catching" her drinking and driving with the kids. The first time Doris reported him for beating Kaiser, he said she did it. This time he's saying Nathan did it. I think his goal is to keep getting away with the abuse (as he has thus far), so his accusers become defeated and accept that he's too clever and they'll never be able to make their accusations stick. After having had the tables turned on them so many times, they'll be very reluctant to report him in the future, knowing that he'll talk his way out of it and likely succeed in making them look bad. Now he and Jenelle are setting the stage for any marks and bruises on Kaiser to be ignored- "See, here's video of him roughhousing; he bruises really easily; he always tries to copy Jace, but he's much smaller so he ends up getting hurt a lot; etc., etc." It's so fucking sick. They are actively trying to gaslight the entire world into disbelieving Kaiser when he says he's being hurt and accepting any kind of marks on Kai as "normal" and nothing to be concerned about. They are also conditioning Kaiser to accept that no one will believe or help him when he reports the abuse. UBT's goal (which Jenelle fully supports) is to get to abuse Kaiser as much as he wants with impunity. They both know that he has hurt Kaiser to the point of leaving bruises multiple times and he fully intends to continue doing so. Jenelle plans for Kaiser to get beaten up whenever he pisses UBT off for his entire childhood. That's the life she wants for her son. They're not even in denial like, "UBT lost his temper, but he's sorry and he'll never do it again..." They are planning for him to do it again and setting up excuses and alibis in advance. 

[gotta watch]

@TheRealT all good points. And I don't mean to be even more depressing, but I bet Kaiser is also enjoying the jubilant mood in the house. And maybe they're giving him presents and a lot of attention? Like a "honeymoon phase." He will come to expect that UBT treats him rough, and then he's verrrrry nice afterwards. Blech.

[druzy]

He is evil

[druzy]

[Mkay]

Story 1 was that Kaiser got the bruises on the boat.

Story 2 is the bruises came from water day at day care. 

Story 3 is David caused them with a stick. (Per Kaiser) 

Story 4 is David saying Nathan left the marks on Kaiser. 

??‍♀️

[badhaggis]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

He is evil

Keep playing with you gun and sticking it in your pants. May you will shoot your dick off if you hit that small of a target df. 

[geauxaway]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

That carpet looks disgusting.  

[Norwegian]

Jesus... how can anyone want to have sex with that disgusting monster!?! He has the look only a mother can love ? And his personality is even worse?? What a piece of shit he is! Thinks he is a tough guy, packing a micro penis in his briefs, that’s why he is over compansating with the guns and beating little kids.

[TheRealT]

I know it's wrong, but I find myself wishing that UBT would kill Jenelle and go to prison for life. I used to wish they'd both die in a one-car accident (and I'm still open to that), but I like the idea of UBT, the sick control freak, being in prison with much meaner, tougher guys and losing control of everything. If Jenelle went to prison, she'd just become the Head Bitch in Charge's girlfriend and continue her pattern of sick, codependent relationships with abusers. Also, she'd manipulate Barb into feeling bad for her and giving her commissary money and bringing the kids to visit.

I think it would be better for Barb and the kids if Jenelle were dead. It would be hard for them, but ultimately they'd make their peace with it and they'd be better off. Barb can feed the kids the narrative that Jenelle was a decent, but troubled and misguided, person who really did love them (even though that's not true) and that Evil UBT, who killed her, is the sick one who's responsible for all the bad stuff that happened. That could be some comfort to the kids as they try to sort out their fucked up childhoods. Also, with Jenelle dead and UBT in prison for killing her, the kids would get whatever money she has left (rather than imprisoned Jenelle being able to spend it all on legal fees for herself and UBT). Yes, I've given this way too much thought and, yes, it's twisted to wish for such things, but there it is.