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I don't feel like anyone here is commanding that other posters like Jack or hate Billy. There are no sacred opinions here. People might debate about characters and plots, but that's what makes it interesting. 

Now, why do I hate Billy so very much? This is just my take, of course, but I find this incarnation of Billy Abbott to be a malignant narcissist, a budding Victor Newman, and a walking, talking hard on with giant nostrils. This dour, soulless child fucks up from Passkey to Phyllis and then has the nerve to throw blame around like emotional napalm. If it's not Jack's fault for existing, it's Ashley's fault for describing his behavior aloud. He acts like a misogynist toolbag around Victoria and mocks her choice of lovers while sexing up his own sister-in-law. Now we have him fully aware of hurting Jack but he still thinks he deserves a fairy tale ending with Phyllis. Billy needs a new plot, preferably a rectangular one about six feet deep. 

I think the show took him from zero to dick too fast after JT took over the role. 

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6 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I don't feel like anyone here is commanding that other posters like Jack or hate Billy. There are no sacred opinions here. People might debate about characters and plots, but that's what makes it interesting. 

Now, why do I hate Billy so very much? This is just my take, of course, but I find this incarnation of Billy Abbott to be a malignant narcissist, a budding Victor Newman, and a walking, talking hard on with giant nostrils. This dour, soulless child fucks up from Passkey to Phyllis and then has the nerve to throw blame around like emotional napalm. If it's not Jack's fault for existing, it's Ashley's fault for describing his behavior aloud. He acts like a misogynist toolbag around Victoria and mocks her choice of lovers while sexing up his own sister-in-law. Now we have him fully aware of hurting Jack but he still thinks he deserves a fairy tale ending with Phyllis. Billy needs a new plot, preferably a rectangular one about six feet deep. 

I think the show took him from zero to dick too fast after JT took over the role. 

Cripes you are genius.

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1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

I was watching with my daughter yesterday and when Billy was yammering about princes waking her up with kiss, I said that if he kissed her, waking her up, I was going to vomit. Lo and behold, there it was. :gag  It wasn't even corny, just sickening.

I haven't watched yet, but maybe she was woken up by the smell?  I mean, having a ButtBiscuit moutbreathing on you must be a shock to the system.

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I just can't with Billy and his delusions of princehood. Hey, dumbass, your princess tripped and fell begging her husband for another chance. I'm pretty sure that's not how most Disney schmaltz-a-thons go. Knowing that news of his loathesome behavior has now spread across Genoa City like gonorrhea, our little Buttbiscuit still trots his ass into Phyllis's hospital room and casts wife beating aspersions on his brother. He's like the Swiss army knife of douchebags.

So, yeah, you're royalty, Billy. You and Phyllis are a live action Beauty and the Yeast. You're Baron von Buttbiscuit. The Duke of Dicks. The Marquis of Motherfuckers. Sheikh Shithead of the Concave Kingdom of Assholistan. The Dingaling King. Count Chicken Choker. Lord of the Unzipped Flies. Your throne is a toilet, your crown is from Burger King, and your sceptre is a giant cast iron dildo with your face painted on it. 

Also, shut up Chloe. 

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It feels like show is writing for two audiences.

  1. One of the audiences likes Sweet Valley High and Shades of Grey, you know, all kind of blended into one package.
  2. The other audience just wants fairly decent storytelling wherein asshats get their comeuppance.

So in the midst of good stuff for audience #2 (the much, much bigger audience, I might add) Teen Girl Fantasy + Clumsy Porn is tossed in every once in awhile. Did you notice even in that awesome promo of Jack Gone Wild they had to throw in a few seconds of that already seen lame underwear-clad sex of Philly?

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16 hours ago, boes said:

You're right.  Only ButtBiscuit is going the Jackie Collins route.

He's no Clark Gable, that's for damn sure. I'm in the camp that hates NevereverBilly. I don't like JT's looks, affect or attitude. It's not even that I'm comparing him to BM. He just rubs me the wrong way. I guess I like my leading men to be more heroic, even if they do make mistakes. They own them and take their lumps.

Which brings me to Jack. I've never been a fan, I like that he has become "good" because I never thought he could pull off dark, but sympathetic the way EB used to be able to before he turned into this "great" evil puppet master. I think he's just o.k. in the leading man dept. There is really nobody for me to swoon over any more on show. I'll save that for Viggo Mortensen and just continue to hope I at least get decent writing and interesting stories from my favorite soap.

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3 hours ago, miamama said:

One of the audiences likes Sweet Valley High and Shades of Grey, you know, all kind of blended into one package.

I'm trying to think of when I've seen something like this before. Going from "I want to rip your clothes off and screw you in my brother's bed" to "I'm Peter Pan, you're Wendy. I'm a prince, you're Sleeping Beauty." 

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13 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

I'm trying to think of when I've seen something like this before. Going from "I want to rip your clothes off and screw you in my brother's bed" to "I'm Peter Pan, you're Wendy. I'm a prince, you're Sleeping Beauty." 

lol. It's so weird. I wonder if show is actually playing a bit to this group of fanatics, seriously. Those silly fantasies (Phyllis "I-will-kill-your-mother-fucking-grandmother-if-you-mess-with-what-I-want" Summers dreaming of a glistening evening during which she marries her brother in law like a pwetty pwincess, lol; and Billy seeing Phyllis as THE WOMAN ALL WOMEN WANT TO BE while the mother of his children and longtime love of his life narrates about a product SHE CREATED 20 years ago). I mean WTF? It's like show's saying: ah, okay, let's give these morons what they want here and there (while the writers laugh their asses off at how easy it is to make the stans squee and tweet). 

I say this because someone is writing smart, good soap at other times. Really really smart soap, lately.

I mean, like you say, these are middle aged people fucking behind a decent man's back and they are presenting them as Disney characters.

You should see the tweets: "Billy woke up his sleeping beauty with a kiss. OMG!!!!"

Phyllis, you guys!!!! Phyllis is the sleeping beauty. God almighty. I can't. 

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2 hours ago, basiltherat said:

You, my dear ButtBiscuit, are no Rhett Butler.  Nor are you Ashley Wilkes, either Tarleton Twin, or even Frank Kennedy or Charles Hamilton. 

You, in fact, are an insult to biscuits.  And butts.

Right? Well, I see Jack as Rhett in the scenario, Phyllis as Scarlett (which of course is a little fun with the "Red"). Buttbiscuit is NOT Ashley Wilkes because he was all about honour. So ButtBiscuit is not part of the scenario.

Works for me.

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6 hours ago, miamama said:

It feels like show is writing for two audiences.

  1. One of the audiences likes Sweet Valley High and Shades of Grey, you know, all kind of blended into one package.

I've loved Sweet Valley High since second grade. I named my cat Jessie after Jessica Wakefield. I even bought the Confidential books when they came out a few years back. And I might, still on occasion, by the books used on Amazon to try and complete my collection.

*hides*

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Phyllis rejects Billy again, so he goes on an Apology Tour. And I knew Ghost!John! would come back to lecture Jack. It's too much comedy.

And, also, I just don't take Philly seriously. I feel like the show is doing this to be like, "See! They tried to make an effort! Don't blame them when they screw again!" It's all lip service. I expect another Billy monologue about a Disney princess in a month.

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1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

Phyllis rejects Billy again, so he goes on an Apology Tour. And I knew Ghost!John! would come back to lecture Jack. It's too much comedy.

And, also, I just don't take Philly seriously. I feel like the show is doing this to be like, "See! They tried to make an effort! Don't blame them when they screw again!" It's all lip service. I expect another Billy monologue about a Disney princess in a month.

Who knows what's coming? Today was good for me.

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You know, I've always said that this philly "romance" was better suited for Summer. That day months ago when Phyllis threw herself over the bed to cry cause she couldn't be with Billy, I knew then it wasn't written for 50 year old Phyllis Summers. This wasn't even her first affair. The show pretends like she didn't fall in love with nick and live that whole thing. She's old enough to know better. This sleeping beauty talk just solidifies my opinion. 

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2 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

Phick was hot as hell, at least. But even back then Phyllis didn't act like a lovelorn schoolgirl. Hell, I don't think Victoria was this mopey after her quicky marriage at 16 fell apart.

Mop Still acts like a silly school girl = Bet she writes her initials and Travis's on her binder.

Binder? Gad I'm old....but so is Mop.

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Phyllis did turn into a giggly fool for a while after she and Banana Butt got married. But I don't blame her. It must be intoxicating as hell to watch a primitive alpha male dig his yellowed toenails into a piece of forbidden fruit and strip it down to its sweet, juicy core. Bow chicka wow wow.

Boy, it's hard for me to decide who sucks more, Billy or Nick. If I go strictly by "what have you done for me lately," it has to be Billy by a country mile. Let's go to the stats. They both hurt Jack with the same woman. Billy is Jack's brother, which is worse than once being his stepson and nailing his wife. Both Nick and Billy use the deaths of their daughters due to car accidents as an excuse for their selfish behavior. Both produced replacement daughters; Nick's womb booger is by far the bigger blight on Genoa City, but Katie is too young to really compete right now. Both men treat their ex-wives like hot garbage. 

I just don't know. It's like a statistical dead heat. How does one break the tie? Nostril size? Proximity of the knuckles to the ground when standing upright? Nick pulled a possible 18 year paternity lie because he had a sad, and Billy attempted to murder Adam in a fit of manpain. Murder is worse, of course. I mean, I have no doubt that Nick intended to murder Daniel when he caught him (and Phyllis still fucked him!), but he did restrain himself. Neither man is remorseful about their deviant, disgusting sexual romps with a married woman. Billy is far more stalkerish; Nick will go away if you spray Gorilla-B-Gone around your person. Nick sucker punches other people while Billy punches himself. 

I guess my verdict would be: Billy. Nick has a rich and varied history of sucking interwoven with years of abject stupidity and hypocrisy. He's long coasted on his manpain and good looks, if you like that sort of thing. But Billy, man...you have to give it to Billy. He's packed a decade's worth of vileness into a matter of months, probably storing it all in his nostrils. Riding a bilious wave of self-pity, he's drowned everyone around him in a thick, chunky stew of disrespect, entitlement, and immaturity. He's feeling himself like a masturbation addict and spits venom in the faces of his siblings, mother, and ex-wife when they try to knock him off his perch. He's an unfeeling uncooked mozzarella stick with delusions of desirability. He won't take 'NO' for an answer until someone holds him down and tattoos the word on the inside of his eyelids. 

Don't give up, Nick. You have a solid foundation of fuckpuppetry to build on, and I see you there, ready to jump down the pants of your brother's widow. You proved you still had the competitive swagger when you busted out the odious nickname of Supergirl. Stay strong, potatohead, stay strong.

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On 2016-09-23 at 7:59 AM, PatsyandEddie said:

I was watching with my daughter yesterday and when Billy was yammering about princes waking her up with kiss, I said that if he kissed her, waking her up, I was going to vomit. Lo and behold, there it was. :gag  It wasn't even corny, just sickening.

I agree I wanted to run for the bathroom.   They are a disgusting garbage I just want Billy to die yesterday would not be soon enough.

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15 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Ah Phick, the wound that never heals. Fuck Phick.

During the Phick disaster my FF worked over time I couldn't stand them but at least they had chemistry.  Philly no chemistry and don't get me started on Sick.   They really have to stop putting revolting couples together.

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19 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

Phyllis rejects Billy again, so he goes on an Apology Tour. And I knew Ghost!John! would come back to lecture Jack. It's too much comedy.

And, also, I just don't take Philly seriously. I feel like the show is doing this to be like, "See! They tried to make an effort! Don't blame them when they screw again!" It's all lip service. I expect another Billy monologue about a Disney princess in a month.

Enquiring minds do wonder about the value of OrangeGhostDad's visit. I'm thinking, "Jerry, was this worth taking time off the dinner-theatre circuit? Okay, I know, residuals. And none of us is getting any younger."

And, yeah, telegraphy may have gone out of business, but that godawful "fambly" crap trotted out again when fundamentally Billy the Shit has done the unutterable, more or less in Greek Tragedy terms, was a lousy example of telegraphing BS' redemption-tour. Presumably he's rented the tour bus and the porta-potties. A lot of those latter items.

But, hey, continuing on a plumbing note, Victoria's house has a bathroom! Hey now! Somehow I doubt Travis is buying into BS' moral "progress" here.

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23 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

I'm trying to think of when I've seen something like this before. Going from "I want to rip your clothes off and screw you in my brother's bed" to "I'm Peter Pan, you're Wendy. I'm a prince, you're Sleeping Beauty." 

I might buy him saying, "I'm the Butt to your Biscuit", but that's about all.

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Just a quick summary today:

Devon is fed up with the GC buzz and buys the tabloid business and fires the reporter who aired the video of him paying off the reporter to keep away from Jack.

Victoria and Travis have a cute bathroom scene as they get ready in the morning. Victor calls Victoria and asks to speak with Travis. Travis goes to meet El Douche at Newman. Victor asks Travis what he knows about Newman and Travis eventually gives in and tells Victor the company has been in trouble since he went public to pay off his kids after they sued him. Later, they go for lunch at the GCAC.  Travis gets tired of Victo's games and asks Victor to just give him the offer already to work for Newman. Victor writes a number on a napkin while Victoria and Billy watch on. Travis turns down Victor's offer.

Billy is being a douche again.

Cane gets hit on by the model from the commercial but tells her he's married.

Jill is with Lauren after a yoga class and Jill offers Fenmore's an exclusive with Brash and Sassy. Lauren declines because she feels that Jill only bought the company to get Victoria and Billy together. Jill is offended that Lauren thinks she's not serious. Later, after speaking with Michael, Lauren calls Jill and apologizes and asks if the offer is still on the table.

Previews show Mariah saying Faith is missing. Faith shows up at Chelsea's studio, Ashley tells Jack since he doesn't have a prenup the divorce can go on forever, and Phyllis is in the hospital telling Michael she doesn't care about money, she just wants her marriage.

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Also, today, I had two laugh out loud moments that were, I thought, just really good, attentive, thoughtful writing.

The first was when butt biscuit said to Cane:  other than fooling Jill into thinking you were her son, what qualifies you to have a seat at the table?

I am meh about butt biscuit and loathe loathe loathe Cane but I thought it was funny.

And then, claw my own eyes out, Cane made me laugh like crazy when he told Jill to dial it down and ended with I'm gonna go do some work now, because you know what?  I'm the only person doing any work around here. 

I hate Cane and that guy made me laugh.  F

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Oh, dearie me, I nearly forgot... "Dearie me"? Someone tell me where this Mary Worth/Spring Byington persona crept into me from, please!

I completely forgot Victor channeling Nietzsche! He complimented Travis on not being afraid to "speak truth to power." Mind you, neither Victor nor EB, I suspect, would know the source of that line. Even though both of them undoubtedly see themselves as the Ubermensch.

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28 minutes ago, pearlite said:

Oh, dearie me, I nearly forgot... "Dearie me"? Someone tell me where this Mary Worth/Spring Byington persona crept into me from, please!

Worried about feeling Mary Worth-ish, are you, pearlite?  

Remember, even Mary wasn't always secure in her Worthiness,   

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But she always gets there in the end......and there's cake......

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9 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

So, lemme get this straight, Phyllis will agree to a divorce if she can keep her job?! What the hell. Leave Jack ALONE, woman.

I find the notion of "love" fascinating on soaps (or at least this one). Stalking, harassing, physically assaulting (because when someone says "let go" repeatedly and you do not let go...) all constitute love, apparently.

Phyllis is the new Billy.

Hey, I haven't watched yet but did Phyllis actually acknowledge that Jack owns Summer's condo????

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Phyllis is being released from the hospital. Summer is visiting and tells Phyllis she is welcome to stay with her at the condo. Phyllis says she doesn’t want to impose. Phyllis says that Summer is young, and doesn’t want her mother staying with her cramping her style, but Summer insists. Michael stops by, interrupting the two. Jack’s lawyers sent him divorce papers for Phyllis to sign with a nice settlement. Phyllis insists she doesn’t want any money; she just wants Jack and pleads with Michael to speak with Jack and get him to postpone the divorce.

Ashley is speaking with Jack, who is upset about something Jabot related. Sorry, I was playing Luminosity and not paying attention. Ashley says Jack should be more concerned about Phyllis. Jack never signed a pre-nup and this divorce can go on for a long time, and Phyllis can walk away with a lot of money. Michael shows up and says Phyllis refuses to sign the papers. Jack insists he wants a divorce, and tells Michael, next time, to go through his lawyer if he wants to speak with him. Man, Jack is cold.

Jack leaves and Ashley implores Michael to go to Phyllis and convince her to sign the papers. She tells Michael to have Phyllis write down a number for a settlement. Ashley just wants Jack to be free.

Mariah comes tearing into the police station and tells Kevin Faith is missing and to put out an Amber Alert. Apparently, Mariah and Faith were at the park and while Mariah was paying for an ice cream, Faith disappeared. As Kevin and Mariah are about to head over to the park and search for Faith, Mariah gets a call from Chelsea. Chelsea informs Mariah that Faith is safe and over at the studio and to come on by because Faith has something to show her.

Faith did indeed come running into Chelsea’s studio interrupting Chelsea and Chloe because her birthday is coming up and she has nothing to wear! She begs Chelsea to help her out with a dress and says she can pay her $20. That’s pretty much what’s Chelsea’s dresses are worth, heh. Chloe is happy and they get started altering a dress for Faith to wear to her party.

Mariah shows up and gently scolds Faith for taking off and not telling her where she was going. Mariah says the next time they go to the park she’s borrowing Dullen’s handcuffs so Faith can’t run off, heh. Faith is just so happy and is showing off her dress and inviting everyone to her birthday party, including Chloe and Kevin. Mariah looks a bit jealous as Chloe and Kevin are being cutesy and couple-y together.

After Mariah and Faith leave, Chloe tells Kevin maybe they should cool things off because it’s clear Mariah still has feelings from him and she doesn’t want things to get weird between them.

Summer and Phyllis are at the Abbot Mansion to get her belongings. Jack shows up and tells Phyllis she shouldn’t have bothered. He already has Mrs. Martinez pack up all of Phyllis’ things and was going to have them sent over to her place. Phyllis says she is staying with Summer, or is that not allowed since Jack still owns the building. Jack pretty much says he doesn’t care where she’s staying, he just wants her gone. As Phyllis is getting ready to leave, Jack asks if she’s forgetting something. Phyllis thinks he means the engagement ring, but Jack says she can keep that. Jack just wants his house keys back.

Ashley shows up once Phyllis and Summer leave and says she spoke with Michael and told him to approach Phyllis and have her write down what she wants in the settlement. Ashley warns Jack it could get expensive but Jack doesn’t care.

Michael shows up at Summer’s and tells Phyllis no go on getting Jack to hold off on the divorce. He goes on to mention that Ashley told him Phyllis can determine how much money she wants. Phyllis tells Michael to go back to Jack and tell him she doesn’t want any money. In exchange, she wants to keep her position at Jabot.

There’s a whole side story where Hillary convinces Devon to keep the GC Buzz and the can still report on celebrity gossip but do it with a conscious and with class. Devon convinces Hillary to take over the show as a reporter and she finally relents and he films her discussing Jack and Phyllis.

Previews show Faith having her birthday party. There are actually some kids in attendance who aren’t Johnny and Katie and Connor, go figure.

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Thanks, Jewel. I can't watch until tomorrow.

I'm so pleased Jack is a cold son of a bitch. Of course he would be. She fucking eviscerated him. (And he just won't forgive her. wah. wah. Even though she's so sorry.) It's interesting, though. He's not even in a place where he wants to punish her. He doesn't. He just wants her gone. 

I have never seen Jack like this. Straight up finished. Nice to see PB get to play something different emotionally. But I am curious where they go with him. Is she going to hang off him at Jabot -- forgive me, love me, we can fix this! -- and he keeps telling her to fuck off? Much as I would enjoy this for eternity, I don't see the show doing that for much longer.

Also isn't HK supposed to be recurring? Why is she always around? It would have made a lot more sense for Lauren to talk to Phyllis. She had an affair recently and they could have had a good talk.

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29 minutes ago, miamama said:

He's not even in a place where he wants to punish her. He doesn't. He just wants her gone. 

I love it. He doesn't even want to give her the time to explain anymore or apologize. I wonder how he'll handle it if they're still working together, though, like you said. How is that gonna go? 

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2 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

I love it. He doesn't even want to give her the time to explain anymore or apologize. I wonder how he'll handle it if they're still working together, though, like you said. How is that gonna go? 

 

Billy and Mop will probably brick them up inside a wall or something until they make up...how rom-com. or kidnap them and leave them on an island or in the Arctic. You know...romance

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11 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

LOL  reminds me of when jill got john to give her 20% of jabot for the divorce and then she got or started the jabot men's line..  of course, with jill, she threatened to go to the tabloids and talk about sleeping with jack...

Yeah. I remember. Lol. Phyllis is being presented as contrite by contrast. She could have fleeced him. I wonder if they'll mention Jill and Johns history - would be nice.

I agree with Crossworks. We will probably see "romance hijinks."

Ashley and Phyllis butting heads should be good. ED is at her best in bitch mode.

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Jack is colder than a polar bear's nutsack and I am loving it. Phyllis will surely be all over him at work like vultures on Victor's decomposing carcass, but if that gives us Jack shutting her down in various ways, I'll enjoy it. I just don't know what to make of Ashley being so totally in Jack's corner. Imagine a family on this show where the members don't treat other like trash. It's been too long. 

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