Future of Movie Stars: Who Will Shine? Who Will Fade Away?

[methodwriter85]

Well, that's good for Theo James, then. Hmm. Even though it didn't turn him into Robert Pattinson, it does seem like Divergent did open a lot of doors for him, as much as we bag on that franchise.

 

 

I thought it might be a bit much, but I tried to think of a young actor who's currently the lead in a successful franchise. Though I don't think he's a major star at all, it's more that I don't think his peers are doing that much at the box office.

 

No, for the male side, it's pretty much just Dylan O'Brien. Logan Lerman would've had a successful franchise if the second Percy Jackson movie hadn't bombed.

 

And then there's Alex Pettyfer. What's there to say about him that hasn't been said, except that he went down in a blaze of glory? (Or infamy.) It's got to say a lot that no one seems to want to give that guy more chances, as opposed to someone like Armie Hammer.

[dusang]

Daniel Radcliffe is only two years older than Dylan O'Brien.

[JBC344]

With all those young actors in the same generation Dylan while good and the "star" of a franchise is still like number 20 on that list.  Even though Josh Hutcherson and Liam Hemsworth are more supporting players in their franchise I would put them well above Dylan in the list of star power.  I think Dylan while a decent actor and well liked I presume needs some more movies and diversity in roles under his belt before I would put him on par with the other men mentioned. 

[Bruinsfan]

Daniel Radcliffe is only two years older than Dylan O'Brien.

The thing is Radcliffe has been the lead in major box office smashes since he was wearing Underoos, so he doesn't really fall into the up-and-coming young actor category. He's more like a male counterpart of Jodi Foster.

[methodwriter85]

Yeah, I kind of lean towards calling Radcliffe a child star made good, as opposed to a rising young actor.

 

It's also funny to realize Daniel Radcliffe is still that young because he looks like he's 30.

[dusang]

Yeah, I kind of lean towards calling Radcliffe a child star made good, as opposed to a rising young actor.

 

Fair enough, but if we're talking about "biggest male star of his generation" or "lead of successful franchise" he's obviously relevant to the conversation.

[greenbean]

Just to be clear, I wasn't using generation as in age, but as in generation of actors. That's why I wasn't sure if Pattinson should be included, as the Twilight films were some time ago now. I think he would scrape in, but for Radcliffe, he may be in the same age group, but he isn't from the same generation of actors.

[dusang]

Just to be clear, I wasn't using generation as in age, but as in generation of actors. That's why I wasn't sure if Pattinson should be included, as the Twilight films were some time ago now. I think he would scrape in, but for Radcliffe, he may be in the same age group, but he isn't from the same generation of actors.

 

But a "generation of actors" is defined by their age, as in, they would compete for the same roles.  Just because someone started in the business earlier or had success earlier doesn't change their generation.

[raezen]

I have to agree with dusang on this one, because using greenbean's logic then Kristen Stewart and Jennifer Lawrence are different generations of actresses but not only are they both the same age they both auditioned for Twilight.

Edited September 29, 2015 by raezen

[greenbean]

It's not my logic. Yes actors of a same age can belong to different generations. Grouping actors together based on when they broke out and not just their age, is not new. I didn't invent this.

Edited September 29, 2015 by greenbean

[Trini]

Do you mean generations of film?* Like the best/most notable actors of the 1950s, or the Silent Era, etc? I can see how actors of different ages might be in the same generation -- like Fred Astaire and Shirley Temple, both stars in the 1930s.

 

 

*(I may not be phrasing that correctly)

[JBC344]

It's not my logic. Yes actors of a same age can belong to different generations. Grouping actors together based on when they broke out and not just their age, is not new. I didn't invent this.

I totally get what you mean.  This is actually a sticking point when people talk actors.  The problem with grouping actors by when they broke out is that there is no semblance or cohesion outside of the time period.  As another poster mentioned those actors competing for the same roles is a much better benchmark if you are comparing fame, talent, access to roles.

 

For example, let's use Josh Hutcherson and Dylan O'Brien, both are around the same age.  Yes, Josh has been acting longer than Dylan I believe, but I wouldn't say that Dylan is from a whole different generation just because he hasn't been famous as long.  The reality is that they are both going up for the same roles.

 

I think the "different generation" idea applies much more to genre of film than it does to actors.  For example, Kate Hudson and Kristen Bell are in the same generation age wise, but you could make the argument that both have dabbled in "romantic comedies" at different periods.  Kate came in to romantic comedies at the tail end of its heyday (Julia/Sandra/Meg) era, while Kristen came into them when the genre starting to take a downfall.

[ToxicUnicorn]

Well, that's good for Theo James, then. Hmm. Even though it didn't turn him into Robert Pattinson, it does seem like Divergent did open a lot of doors for him, as much as we bag on that franchise.

 

Theo James is very easy on the eyes, but I didn't think anyone could act in the Divergent series.  I'm not even that crazy about the female starlet, who I saw (also with my teenage daughter) in The Fault In Our Stars.  She was ok, but didn't strike me as anything special.  (Shailene Woodley.  I had to look that up.)

 

Of course, any of them are worlds better than that Twilight couple.

 

I would love it if Taylor Kitsch had a hit.  I really enjoyed him on Friday Night Lights, but none of his movies have done well enough for me to justify making time for them.

[methodwriter85]

 

For example, Kate Hudson and Kristen Bell are in the same generation age wise, but you could make the argument that both have dabbled in "romantic comedies" at different periods.  Kate came in to romantic comedies at the tail end of its heyday (Julia/Sandra/Meg) era, while Kristen came into them when the genre starting to take a downfall.

 

You're right. Wow. I keep forgetting how old Kristen Bell actually is, because she played teenaged roles well into her mid/late 20's. Kate Hudson's last teenaged role was Penny Lane, and that character basically seemed like a 25-year old who said she was 16.

 

Is it wrong that I feel annoyed that Hollywood seems to be desperate to turn Chloe Grace Moretz into the It Girl Teen Queen? I'm annoyed that she's also going to appear in the sequel to the Neighbors. Well, I guess Jennifer Lawrence and Shailene Woodley aren't getting any younger.

Edited September 30, 2015 by methodwriter85

[Craphole Island]

Yeah, I'm not sure I like Chloe Grace Moretz. Like, I can't explain it but she bugs me. She seems like she's kind of cool in real life so I want to like her, but something about her in her roles bothers me. I'd prefer to see more of Hailee Steinfeld myself. I had actually never seen her in anything (didn't see True Grit), but I enjoyed her in Pitch Perfect 2 and from what I can gather, she seems like a talent (I mean, she WAS nominated for an Oscar at like..13?).

 

Speaking of young Oscar nominees: how has Abigail Breslin been lately? Because she is currently on Scream Queens which is, well it's pretty all over the place, but she is one of the real weak spots IMO. She's just really... not good in it. Now granted, I don't think the role suits her AT ALL, but I haven't seen her in much. Just curious if it's just the role or maybe she just didn't grow up to be a very good actress? I always liked her, so wondered all your thoughts.

[JBC344]

I actually think Abigail is still very talented.  I know the last few years she has been doing predominately indie films and focusing on just being a teenager, she also sings.

 

I think that Scream Queens was a way for her to do something mainstream and out of her element.  I think she is miscast in the specific role that she has, and as a result is being wasted so far on the show.  I would of liked to see her in the "Grace" role.

[methodwriter85]

Yeah, I'm not sure I like Chloe Grace Moretz. Like, I can't explain it but she bugs me. She seems like she's kind of cool in real life so I want to like her, but something about her in her roles bothers me.

 

I feel like she makes the same "doe eyed deer in the headlights" look in every single movie she does, and it feels like on the basis of one cool role she did as a 12-year old, Hollywood's giving her chance after chance to become the next big thing. I just find it annoying.

[xaxat]

"I'd rather break this glass and slash my wrists." Daniel Craig about playing Bond again.

 

Does anyone know why he hates the role that much? I'm sure there are many actors that aren't thrilled to be associated with certain franchises, but has anyone publicly ripped a successful franchise like he has?

 

I assume he knows he's probably never going to get as high a profile role again and find it interesting that he is not only walking away, but is doing so going out of his way to leave on bad terms.

[ribboninthesky1]

I had a different take on the article - he's clearly over the role, but I don't perceive that he's ripping on the franchise itself.  Seems to me that he's just tired.  He's older, probably the most physically fit Bond to date, and his body has probably taken a beating because of it. I actually thought he was under contract for one more film, but I don't care enough to verify. And while I think he's been a great Bond, the films overall have been meh, for me at least.  Spectre looks boring as hell, though I'll probably still see it.  Frankly, based on the trailers, Craig looks over it even in character.  Perhaps there have been some BTS shenanigans.  

 

If I were on that short list of the next Bond, I'd take note of what he's saying. Sometimes raising your profile isn't worth it. 

[dusang]

"I'd rather break this glass and slash my wrists." Daniel Craig about playing Bond again.

 

Does anyone know why he hates the role that much? I'm sure there are many actors that aren't thrilled to be associated with certain franchises, but has anyone publicly ripped a successful franchise like he has?

 

I assume he knows he's probably never going to get as high a profile role again and find it interesting that he is not only walking away, but is doing so going out of his way to leave on bad terms.

 

 

I had a different take on the article - he's clearly over the role, but I don't perceive that he's ripping on the franchise itself.  Seems to me that he's just tired.  He's older, probably the most physically fit Bond to date, and his body has probably taken a beating because of it.

 

I agree with ribboninthesky, he definitely sounds more exhausted by it than disdainful of it.  He specifically says it's been "left in a good place" and can get better and advises the next Bond to appreciate that these are good movies and to take care with them (well, that's how I'm interpreting "don't be shit").  I'm surprised to hear him so vehement on it, during the Skyfall press tour (or at least the portion on Graham Norton's couch) he seemed happy with it all.  Maybe doing the movie without Dame Judi wasn't as much fun.

[UYI]

"I'd rather break this glass and slash my wrists." Daniel Craig about playing Bond again.

 

Does anyone know why he hates the role that much? I'm sure there are many actors that aren't thrilled to be associated with certain franchises, but has anyone publicly ripped a successful franchise like he has?

 

I assume he knows he's probably never going to get as high a profile role again and find it interesting that he is not only walking away, but is doing so going out of his way to leave on bad terms.

 

Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart went out of their way to crap on Twilight, not that I blame them.

[Danny Franks]

Can't blame him really. I think I'd rather slash my wrists than watch a Bond film. The most absurdly overrated movie franchise in history. They're all utter nonsense, and usually dumber than your average action movie.

[Kel Varnsen]

I had a different take on the article - he's clearly over the role, but I don't perceive that he's ripping on the franchise itself.  Seems to me that he's just tired.  He's older, probably the most physically fit Bond to date, and his body has probably taken a beating because of it. 

I can buy that. You always hear about guys like hugh jackman, or Chris Hemsworth, or even Dwayne Johnson talking about how the physical prep for some of there roles just sucks (between the nonstop training and the diet). If you are a guy getting into your late 40's looking ahead and thinking about keeping that up would not be something you would look forward too. 

[sweetcookieface]

I've been marathoning In Treatment (the HBO psychotherapy show from a few years ago) and thought of this thread. There are three young actors who I thought were brilliant in their roles -- Mia Wasikowska, Allison Pill and Dane DeHaan. I can see all of them having long, successful careers. Given that In Treatment was one of the first major actor jobs for all three actors, I'm especially amazed by their performances. They just have "it."

 

I find Mia Wasikowska really interesting. Despite being quite beautiful, she's never been relegated to eye candy / girlfriend roles - pretty much every role she's had has had some depth. I think she has such a unique screen presence, and is one of the best at conveying a rich interior life. I guess that's why a lot of her characters have been more introverted (e.g., Tracks, Stoker, Kids Are Alright). As I was watching In Treatment, the word that kept coming to mind was "prodigy." I think she's going to be around for a long time - I can see her having a Cate Blanchett or Nicole Kidman type career.

 

Dane De Haan is really talented as well - his character in In Treatment was super-annoying/unlikeable, but perfectly captured a certain type of teenage bravado/self-involvement. I've heard him compared to DiCaprio (looks wise), which I can totally see, but there's something a little off kilter about his looks that reads more character actor, especially when combined with his voice. I've only seen him in Chronicle and In Treatment (still want to see Kill the Darlings), but am really excited to see how his career progresses.

 

Finally, Allison Pill was phenomenal in In Treatment - very natural and inviting. Aside from In Treatment, I've only seen her in small parts (Milk and Midnight in Paris), but I can also see her landing lots of interesting/quirky supporting roles. (I haven't seen Newsroom - hopefully it's a juicy role.)

Edited October 8, 2015 by sweetcookieface

[ribboninthesky1]

I can buy that. You always hear about guys like hugh jackman, or Chris Hemsworth, or even Dwayne Johnson talking about how the physical prep for some of there roles just sucks (between the nonstop training and the diet). If you are a guy getting into your late 40's looking ahead and thinking about keeping that up would not be something you would look forward too. 

 

In addition, some of the stunts he's had to pull off in the films are doozies (i.e. parkour chase in Casino Royale).  No doubt there are stunt men, of course, but I recall reading how he was injured during production of at least one of the films. Someone like Dwayne Johnson with an athletic background might have a higher tolerance for that.  Who knows what else went on behind the scenes.       

[Kel Varnsen]

 Someone like Dwayne Johnson with an athletic background might have a higher tolerance for that.       

Probably, although I think I read something recently that even Dwayne Johnson had to up his training regime for the last few movies he was in, and is actually bigger now, muscle wise, than he was in his wrestling days. A lot of that is because as a movie star you have a lot more time to focus on training, while when he was a wrestler he was basically travelling 300 days a year and had to make due depending on where he was.

[methodwriter85]

Alison Pill has been a working actor since she was 12 years old. I'd say she's already had a pretty long career.

Edited October 9, 2015 by methodwriter85

[dusang]

Probably, although I think I read something recently that even Dwayne Johnson had to up his training regime for the last few movies he was in, and is actually bigger now, muscle wise, than he was in his wrestling days. A lot of that is because as a movie star you have a lot more time to focus on training, while when he was a wrestler he was basically travelling 300 days a year and had to make due depending on where he was.

Oh, if you look at The Rock now vs even 5 years ago, he's huuuuge now. His regime must be crazy.

[methodwriter85]

Speaking of the Rock, San Andreas was a nice booster for his career this year. It wasn't Jurassic World big, but it did make a pretty nice haul. Good for him.

[dusang]

Speaking of the Rock, San Andreas was a nice booster for his career this year. It wasn't Jurassic World big, but it did make a pretty nice haul. Good for him.

 

Well, he's also the "franchise Viagra" of the Fast & Furious juggernaut so...

 

(OT: "Viagra" is in spell check and I am concerned for the world. /OT)

[methodwriter85]

I wonder how bad Josh Hartnett's reputation is that they wouldn't cast him as the Young Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black 3. Seriously, look at this photo of Tommy Lee as a teenager and tell me that circa 2001 Josh Hartnett couldn't have passed as this kid's brother.

 

I think he's kind of the Alex Pettyfer for his age, although at least in his case, he did have some success before it all went to shit, as opposed to Alex, who was just hyped from the word go and then failed hard.

Edited October 10, 2015 by methodwriter85

[Cobalt Stargazer]

I keep getting [Cate Blanchett] and Tilda Swinton mixed up.

 

Heh! When I saw the first ads for Cinderella, I was thinking, Oh, Tilda Swinton as the wicked stepmother. Interesting. Oh, wait....

 

Yeah, I'm not sure I like Chloe Grace Moretz. Like, I can't explain it but she bugs me. She seems like she's kind of cool in real life so I want to like her, but something about her in her roles bothers me.

 

Moretz, I think, tends to play "edgy" types, like Hit Girl and kind of her role in The Equalizer. She was also in Dark Places with Charlize Theron and Nicholas Hoult. The novel was written by Gillian Flynn, who brought us Gone Girl, which I think is pretty self-explanatory. Good movie, but Moretz's character is far from likable. That she's only eighteen, which surprised me, means she can have a really long career, because I think she's very talented, but to date she's mostly known for playing a slightly "off" superhero, a teenage hooker, and someone who

strangled her boyfriend's younger sister.

She might need to consider something a little lighter if she wants to prove she has range.

[vb68]

 

I think he's kind of the Alex Pettyfer for his age, although at least in his case, he did have some success before it all went to shit, as opposed to Alex, who was just hyped from the word go and then failed hard.

 

 

I don't remember Hartnett getting the full court negative press that Pettyfer received.   I remember stories that he didn't get along with Harrison Ford and maybe some others, but I didn't think it was at that level.   My impression was that he felt burned out and decided to leave the business for several years.   Hence now he is basically starting over with that show he's on.   

[methodwriter85]

Good point. It's nice to see him back, although man I'm hoping he cuts his hair at some point.

 

Seeing MallRats made me remember just how sad I am that the London twins went terribly wrong at some point.

 

Also, that Shannen Doherty was basically the Lindsey Lohan of the 1990's, although sans the lesbianism and drug use. I think it was just straight up crazy on her part.

Edited October 10, 2015 by methodwriter85

[VCRTracking]

I can buy that. You always hear about guys like hugh jackman, or Chris Hemsworth, or even Dwayne Johnson talking about how the physical prep for some of there roles just sucks (between the nonstop training and the diet). If you are a guy getting into your late 40's looking ahead and thinking about keeping that up would not be something you would look forward too.

 

Kenneth Branagh who directed the first Thor was on Graham Norton recently and at 2:17 of this clip he's talking about how he was hesitant to ask Chris Hemsworth if he'd mind doing a shirtless scene and Hemsworth responded "Of course I want to take my bloody shirt off! I've been training for nine months for this f@#king film!"

 

[UYI]

Good point. It's nice to see him back, although man I'm hoping he cuts his hair at some point.

 

Seeing MallRats made me remember just how sad I am that the London twins went terribly wrong at some point.

 

Also, that Shannen Doherty was basically the Lindsey Lohan of the 1990's, although sans the lesbianism and drug use. I think it was just straight up crazy on her part.

 

I've always wondered if SD's reputation was super-overblown. Maybe she partied a little harder than some of the other young stars of her era did, but she seems to have matured fine, tension on any number of the Aaron Spelling shows she was on aside. I wish her nothing but the best in her fight against breast cancer.

 

I honestly think Lindsay is in a league of her own, in terms of Child Stars Gone Bad. At 29, not only does seem, to me, like she doesn't care about what she's made of her life, I'm almost wonder if she thinks she's HAPPIER this way, which is even sadder. Yes, she has a fucked-up family life, but at her age, the majority of this is on her.

 

I guess she could still pull a Mackenzie Phillips, but having read Mack's autobiography, I got the feeling that, even in the darkest depths of her addiction, she wanted to get better, especially after she had her son. I don't really get that feeling from Lindsay at all. YMMV.

 

I used to have such a crush on Jeremy London when he was on the show I'll Fly Away. At least Jason seems to have become a normal adult.

Edited October 13, 2015 by UYI

[Athena]

I've always wondered if SD's reputation was super-overblown. Maybe she partied a little harder than some of the other young stars of her era did, but she seems to have matured fine, tension on any number of the Aaron Spelling shows she was on aside. I wish her nothing but the best in her fight against breast cancer.

 

I never really had an big opinion on Doherty's off set antics, but did feel sad when Brenda left 90210 back in the day. That was before I followed celeb gossip so had no idea why. In Neil Patrick Harris' autobiography, he mentions being briefly on the early 90s scene and being a witness to Doherty's behaviour:

 

Shannen Doherty, for example. She’s trouble. Like, soap opera trouble. And she loves living out that role. Once you watch her get into a fistfight at the Roxbury with another young star of the era. (You will never remember the other star’s identity; for purposes of completion, let’s say Soleil Moon Frye.) On several occasions you witness Shannen get upset when another pseudo-celeb gets too close to “her” section of a bar, then react with her standard public ritual of shouting, glass-throwing, and storming out. These incidents then become fodder for gossip columnists and are used as fuel for subsequent shouting/glass-throwing/ out-storming sessions.

 

Shannen embodies this era. You, alas, do not. For one thing the scene is fueled primarily by alcohol, and you are—by biochemical nature—a dull and crappy drunk. Yes, alcohol loosens your inhibitions, but your habit of self-observation is too deeply ingrained for you to ever do anything tabloid-worthy. Screaming in public, taking your shirt off, belittling valets—all fun and rewarding things for celebutante drinkers to do, no question about it. But your dreams of partaking in such amusing sport are invariably nipped in the bud by imagining yourself being the jackass doing them. (You can, however, more than hold your own against anyone when it comes to morning-after puking, shivering, and wishing you were dead, so at least there’s that.)

 

She's probably not like this anymore, but it's too bad this kind of behaviour leaked into her professional life since I think she was a decent actress. Definitely one of the better original 90210 actors.

[ribboninthesky1]

Lindsay Lohan isn't even 30 yet? Wow. 

[manbearpig]

It's a shame that Shannen Doherty is stuck in tv movie hell. Love her in Heathers and Charmed.

[Kel Varnsen]

Lindsay Lohan isn't even 30 yet? Wow.

I am more amazed that she is almost 30 and has made it that long. It doesn't seem that long ago that pervy people on the internet were counting down to when she turned 18.

[UYI]

Lindsay Lohan isn't even 30 yet? Wow. 

 

She'll be 30 on July 2nd, 2016.

 

True story: The paps once mistook a 60-something (now 70!) Debbie Harry for Lindsay. Poor Debbie.

I am more amazed that she is almost 30 and has made it that long. It doesn't seem that long ago that pervy people on the internet were counting down to when she turned 18.

 

Oh, Dear God, yes. And Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen's 18th birthdays were June 13th, 2004, the month before Lindsay's 18th birthday. Just...blech.

Edited October 13, 2015 by UYI

[Bruinsfan]

My assumption is that Lohan has an Ozzie-like resistance to the cumulative degenerative effects of drugs, otherwise she'd have lethaly overdosed by now.

[JBC344]

Lindsay seems to be to be somewhat on the path to getting her life back.  Ever since she moved to London last year, I haven't really heard any "bad" stories about her.  She did the play on West End and maybe even worked on a smaller movie.  She seems relatively quiet the last six months. Or whenever I see her in the news it is more for making an appearance or out on the town at an event.  Nothing about causing trouble anywhere.  Unless I may have missed something?

[Cobalt Stargazer]

I never really had an big opinion on Doherty's off set antics, but did feel sad when Brenda left 90210 back in the day. That was before I followed celeb gossip so had no idea why. In Neil Patrick Harris' autobiography, he mentions being briefly on the early 90s scene and being a witness to Doherty's behaviour:

 

I think Doherty's reputation in pretty overblown, personally. I know about the stuff on 90210 and Charmed, but years after her firings I read some BTS things that suggested she wasn't entirely the problem. I do think she may have been a hard partier back in the day, but I also think some of her co-stars decided they just didn't like her because of reasons unrelated to that.

[Athena]

I think Doherty's reputation in pretty overblown, personally. I know about the stuff on 90210 and Charmed, but years after her firings I read some BTS things that suggested she wasn't entirely the problem. I do think she may have been a hard partier back in the day, but I also think some of her co-stars decided they just didn't like her because of reasons unrelated to that.

 

Like most things, the truth is probably somewhere in between or a little of column A and B. For whatever reason, Doherty had a record of not getting along with her co-stars and they with her. Some people are not necessarily equipped to deal with that kind of thing or proficient with these settings. I don't necessarily like any of her co-stats much either and it is a shame overall since I think she is a decent actress.

 

I watched Lohan in the The Parent Trap recently and was struck again by her screen presence and charisma at that age and when she became an adult. She does not look at all like she use to because of the work and the substance abuse, but I wish her well. I could see her making a come back in a few years if she continues to fly under the radar as she has done recently.

[methodwriter85]

Oh, Dear God, yes. And Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen's 18th birthdays were June 13th, 2004, the month before Lindsay's 18th birthday. Just...blech.

I remember seeing the countdown website for the Olsen twins. Ick is right. I think that whole creeper trend started with Natalie Portman back in the late 90's? I always thought the scene where her character was dressed as a little girl in V for Vendetta and then a priest drools over her was a nod to her origin as being some Lolita figure.

 

I grew up with Lindsay Lohan, in a way- I'll be 30 on December 7th so I'm pretty close in age to that whole group, and it does feel sad that she does seem like she won't ever "get it", but she doesn't quite seem as on the edge of death like she used to, so progress? Maybe?

 

Anyway, in a reminder of happier times...Liz Gillies and Elaine Hendrix did a Parent Trap Homage:

 

 

Good on Elaine Hendrix for being an actress over the age of 40 and still having a face that can move. I always loved her bit in Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion where her former follower character tells off her old Queen Bee about how pathetic she is.

 

As for Liz, I'm sad the planned Jawbreaker musical never took off. She would have killed it as Courtney, I know it.

Edited October 14, 2015 by methodwriter85

[Athena]

I remember seeing the countdown website for the Olsen twins. Ick is right. I think that whole creeper trend started with Natalie Portman back in the late 90's? I always thought the scene where her character was dressed as a little girl in V for Vendetta and then a priest drools over her was a nod to her origin as being some Lolita figure.

 

Portman's breakout role was in Leon: The Professional where she plays an orphaned 12 year old girl adopted by a hitman. She has a very distinct look in that movie. A couple years after that, she was cast in Beautiful Girls where her 13 year old character tells the protagonist played by Timothy Hutton to wait until she turns 18. As a result of those roles and her rather preternatural beauty, she has been cast as a young ingenue and Lolita figure a lot. I even think Closer had a nod to it. I remember when Portman was cast in the Star Wars films and going on websites and seeing she already had many male fans because the aforementioned two movies. It was a bit creepy to say the least.

[methodwriter85]

Well, she was originally supposed to be Juliet to Leo's Romeo, but they changed their mind because in the footage it looked like Leo was molesting a little girl. Probably the right call.

 

I do think Natalie Portman had a pretty impressive transition from child star to adult star- no real missteps aside from some bad movies, and she really benefited from taking time off to go to school. Of course, she lucked off in that she's from a pretty loaded family, so she was able to take time off and not resort to "paycheck" movies, or worse, reality t.v. shows.

[VCRTracking]

Kirsten Dunst was a fellow child actress with Portman.She's two years younger but she was already kissing Brad Pitt in Interview With a Vampire the same year Portman was in The Professional.  Only one episode has aired but I'm already enjoying Dunst in the new season of Fargo the series on FX. She's great with the Minnesota accent, which she had done way back in Drop Dead Gorgeous in 1999.

[JBC344]

Well, she was originally supposed to be Juliet to Leo's Romeo, but they changed their mind because in the footage it looked like Leo was molesting a little girl. Probably the right call.

 

I do think Natalie Portman had a pretty impressive transition from child star to adult star- no real missteps aside from some bad movies, and she really benefited from taking time off to go to school. Of course, she lucked off in that she's from a pretty loaded family, so she was able to take time off and not resort to "paycheck" movies, or worse, reality t.v. shows.

Ironically her "paycheck" movies didn't really hurt her career to much.  Her Star Wars prequels she did while in college are considered the worst movies she has done, buy because the movies are overall horrible she came out unscathed for the most part.

 

Glad to hear Kirsten is good in Fargo, she is a really underrated actress IMO.  I thought she was riveting in Melancholia a few years ago and thought she should of been nominated for best actress.

Edited October 14, 2015 by JBC344