S03.E14: Growers and Show-ers

[CharlizeCat]

I think LeAnne is bluffing about cloning Brandi's phone.  Or, she did something else far less complicated and heinous and is erroneously calling it "cloning." FFS, she is engaged to a retired law enforcement professional. You'd think that she'd take that into account (not that that has stopped her before.) 

Drunk little piss ant Brandi needs to be bitch slapped from this way to Sunday, but not like that.  I detest her. She ranks right up there with me along with Dorit, Bethenny and Brandi G. 

[dosodog]

It's hard to say what they would do if LeeAnne cloned her phone and broke the law.

Vicki and Theresa are still on their franchise. Phaedra is the only person I'm aware of, who was dropped for a single action.

[RHJunkie]

14 hours ago, ninjago said:

Not to be naive, but, if she did clone Brandi's phone, how could they keep her on the show?  Who would be willing to travel or even spend time with someone who would cross boundaries in such a sinister, criminal way?  If they don't can her for that, what's the next boundary she would cross?  Stealing credit cards?  Posting revenge porn?

My guess is that Brandi will steal/hide her phone as a "joke" (because Brandi is a stereotypical mean cheerleader), and, when Leanne later finds Brandi's phone, she sees something "bad" on it-mean texts about her or the other women, etc.-and that is Leanne's justification for cloning the phone.  

Of course, there's nothing that would justify cloning Brandi's phone.  If she did it, she has to go. 

Which is why I'm holding out for the episode to see how it unfolds because it's just a ridiculously stupid thing for anyone to do and to admit to it. It wouldn't be a good look for Bravo either.

[ghoulina]

On 11/17/2018 at 12:34 PM, Sterling said:

Agreed.

I think Cary is trying too hard this season to undo the damage from previous seasons, where it looked like Mark was this controlling jerk and their marriage looked miserable.  So this season, they're "happy family-ing" it up for the cameras.  

While Mark showing up with Zuri was adorable, heart-warming, tear-jerking, blah blah, it was all producer-driven, as we know.  And in actuality, I bet Cary would have rather known, so she could have traveled with Zuri on the plane.  I'm sure she'd have rather been seated with Zuri to handle any and all issues on that 8-hour flight, plus all the customs time, etc.

I think he's still the same controlling dude; we just aren't seeing him as much.

Last season, she really wanted to be a stay-at-home mom, and he resisted.  So he "let" her open up this laser skincare center, to sort of be her own boss.  Um, what part of that is "stay-at-home mom"?  Basically, he moved her from one job to another, and she still didn't get what she really wanted, which was to raise Zuri completely from home, a desire I admire.

I agree with all of this. Mark and Cary remind me a bit of the Dubrows. They seem very camera aware and are trying to create a certain narrative every season. 

But some shit you can't fake; and I'll never forget Mark's barely contained rage when Zuri was "ruining" the adult dinner. 

[dosodog]

1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

Which is why I'm holding out for the episode to see how it unfolds because it's just a ridiculously stupid thing for anyone to do and to admit to it. It wouldn't be a good look for Bravo either.

Plus the previews are now alluding to Brandi stealing LeeAnne's phone.  So now you have one cast member stealing physical objects and the other stealing information off a phone.

How would they keep one over the other?  Particularly because the two of them and their drama, drive the show. 

I'm with you.  I'm sitting back and watching it all unfold because. Bravo editing monkeys!

Is it on this week?  Or are we preempted due to Thanksgiving? 

[Starlight925]

The thing about Phaedra, Vicki, Theresa, is that none of them did anything that was actually illegal.  Lying about cancer, or spreading rumors about castmates, or being married to someone who does something illegal, does not mean they, themselves, broke the law.

Southern Charm's Thomas Ravenel, has been fired, as he is facing a trial involving sexual assault, which of course, is against the law.

If LeeAnn truly cloned Brandi's phone, that's illegal, and she should be fired for it.  If Brandi took LeeAnn's phone, it was likely as a temporary joke (Brandi-style), so not illegal.  It's not like Brandi blatantly stole LeeAnn's phone.

However, cloning a phone isn't a simple task, and I'd bet hard money that Miss Carnie/ancient pageant girl LeeAnn has no idea how to do it.  We shall see in this week's episode, but I bet they're using the word "cloning" generously.

[RHJunkie]

3 hours ago, dosodog said:

Plus the previews are now alluding to Brandi stealing LeeAnne's phone.  So now you have one cast member stealing physical objects and the other stealing information off a phone.

How would they keep one over the other?  Particularly because the two of them and their drama, drive the show. 

I'm with you.  I'm sitting back and watching it all unfold because. Bravo editing monkeys!

Is it on this week?  Or are we preempted due to Thanksgiving? 

The tv calendar online says they're scheduled for a new episode this week.

[princelina]

On 11/15/2018 at 4:47 PM, RedheadZombie said:

What are sunny-side titties??

If I remember correctly, Leanne's original boob job left her with nips too high up - sitting on top of her breasts - so the surgery Brandi took her for was to reposition them into a normal "teen-aged breasts on a 50 year old" position :)

On 11/17/2018 at 1:34 PM, Sterling said:

Agreed.

I think Cary is trying too hard this season to undo the damage from previous seasons, where it looked like Mark was this controlling jerk and their marriage looked miserable.  So this season, they're "happy family-ing" it up for the cameras.  

While Mark showing up with Zuri was adorable, heart-warming, tear-jerking, blah blah, it was all producer-driven, as we know.  And in actuality, I bet Cary would have rather known, so she could have traveled with Zuri on the plane.  I'm sure she'd have rather been seated with Zuri to handle any and all issues on that 8-hour flight, plus all the customs time, etc.

I think he's still the same controlling dude; we just aren't seeing him as much.

Last season, she really wanted to be a stay-at-home mom, and he resisted.  So he "let" her open up this laser skincare center, to sort of be her own boss.  Um, what part of that is "stay-at-home mom"?  Basically, he moved her from one job to another, and she still didn't get what she really wanted, which was to raise Zuri completely from home, a desire I admire.

Or he was right and she was bored with it after a short while., and running the laser center allows her to work "part time" and build the family business.  Who knows?  They are an odd family.

[princelina]

On 11/15/2018 at 8:35 AM, ghoulina said:

I don't know. I look at it as they might want to remember the moment and since LeeAnn wasn't going in, she could do the pics/videos. I've done that before, without being asked, because I knew family members would want to remember something. It wasn't just Brandi doing it, so I didn't think it was all that suspicious. 

In that case I'd wonder if Leanne was that thoughtful for everyone, or just Brandi?  I just know that in my case when I'm on group trips, I try to be fun and accommodating to the hosts by participating in things, and there's always an asshole who won't participate but is then pointing that fucking phone at me.  And if you are in the middle of trying to participate or have fun, you usually can't gracefully get out of it but you are in front of people so you have to keep that smile on your face whilst inwardly fuming/dying of embarrassment, and then when it's over and you try to express your rage, the perp says "Oh you were having fun."  Fuckers.

[iloveit]

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Or he was right and she was bored with it after a short while., 

IIRC, she did say in the first episode that she wanted to go back to working more. 

I am wondering if LeAnne will get mad at Kameran for telling Cary that she cloned Brandi's phone.  Kam had to know that telling Cary meant that Cary was going to tell everyone else.  Can LeAnne risk alienating Kameran? I am thinking no, she will be mad but will sweep it under the rug because she can't have everyone mad at her.  Even though it is awful for her to say this, I think Brandi is correct in saying that no one trusts LeAnne. 

[jaync]

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@Sterling

The thing about Phaedra, Vicki, Theresa, is that none of them did anything that was actually illegal.  Lying about cancer, or spreading rumors about castmates, or being married to someone who does something illegal, does not mean they, themselves, broke the law.

Teresa did plenty that was illegal...and she was subsequently charged, convicted, and spent a year in prison for her law breaking.

[Starlight925]

2 hours ago, jaync said:

Teresa did plenty that was illegal...and she was subsequently charged, convicted, and spent a year in prison for her law breaking.

Thank you......I admittedly don't watch, or pay attention to, NJ.  Appreciate your setting me straight on that!  :)

Re:   Cary saying she was bored....yeah, I remember that.  I just don't buy it.  I think Mr. Controlling Mark coerced her to get back to work, as he never wanted her to stay home in the first place.  They obviously don't need the money; he may have a "working nurse" fantasy, as that's who she was when they met.  Who knows.  I do like her, though, and I love her affection for Zuri.

[ghoulina]

I think Mark liked having Cary working FOR HIM. I don't think he'd be that thrilled if she got a job at some other office. He liked to being able to watch her all day. 

[Starlight925]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

I think Mark liked having Cary working FOR HIM. I don't think he'd be that thrilled if she got a job at some other office. He liked to being able to watch her all day. 

Agreed.  But part of working for him, in the new laser center, is that I'm sure he financed it, so he can oversee her and still watch her work, whenever he wants.

Control is spelled M-A-R-K.

[princelina]

29 minutes ago, Sterling said:

Agreed.  But part of working for him, in the new laser center, is that I'm sure he financed it, so he can oversee her and still watch her work, whenever he wants.

Control is spelled M-A-R-K.

Zuri is old enough to go to school for at least part of the day - I wonder if laser center hours are more "school-friendly" so Cary can do both?

[ghoulina]

19 hours ago, Sterling said:

Agreed.  But part of working for him, in the new laser center, is that I'm sure he financed it, so he can oversee her and still watch her work, whenever he wants.

Control is spelled M-A-R-K.

100%. When they announced the built-in laser center, I immediately knew what he was up to. He let her have something, so she could feel independent and important; meanwhile....he's hovering right. next. door. 

[TOL]

On 11/16/2018 at 10:51 AM, AttackTurtle said:

I side with Brandi concerning the filming.   Leanne’s intentions are never good when it comes to Brandi and I believe her budding friendship with Stephanie is really all about pissing off Brandi.   Stephanie is too nice/forgiving to get it.

 

As far as Brandi swimming naked on national t.v., Bravo blurs out her bits, Leanne would not.   Further, I thought it was nice that Brandi went 100% in with the locals.   

 

I hate Brandi’s timing when dealing with Leanne and she needs to be nicer to Stephanie, but I wouldn’t be cool with Leanne filming me.

 

But seriously, what does Leanne have on the society girls?   Cam’s allegiance to Leanne is just strange.   

 

Ditto to your entire post.  I often find myself landing on the Brandi side of any situation that involves Leanne.  

[TOL]

It is my fondest wish that Leanne’s cloning of Brandi’s phone really is a serious legal issue and that she gets not only fired but arrested and frogmarched out of the reunion show.  I know I’ll be disappointed because why would the previews show the whole ballgame- but that’s what I want.  

 

Leanne is the worst, starting with her massively over-exaggerated TH’s, including costumes.  Production encourages this I’m sure but they don’t write the cartoon, they just film it.  I wish i still had my DVR so I could FF all of her interviews.   She’s caricature rather than supposedly being “real”

She also goes after Brandi disproportionately and personally.  Leanne is plainly fixated on Brandi and envious of her; the husband she didn’t have to continually beg to marry her (hi Vicki G!), the children she’ll never have- including the fact that Stephanie thought enough of Brandi that she facilitated Bru’s adoption, even the fact that she feels like carny kid is far less than Dallas Cowboy cheerleader.  She’s not fabulously wealthy like Stephanie and Kam, who she has recently attached to (while developing issues with former BFF DeAndra now that she’s “broke”).  I don’t think Leanne is all about the riches folks, but she’s certainly about the appearances of money and the reputation it brings.

 

Brandi bugs, but I don’t think she’s an awful person.  Leanne is an awful person and worse, she tries to justify it with her upbringing.  She just sucks

Edited November 20, 2018 by TOL
For apology - should have just done one post!

[Panda Bear]

1 hour ago, TOL said:

She also goes after Brandi disproportionately and personally.  Leanne is plainly fixated on Brandi and envious of her; the husband she didn’t have to continually beg to marry her (hi Vicki G!), the children she’ll never have...

I have seen absolutely no evidence of this on the show. I can believe that LeeAnne is envious of Kameron and D'Andra, with their money and social connections, but when has she ever shown any interest in having children? She also seems to have a happy relationship with Rich, with or without a marriage certificate. I think LeeAnne actually looks down on Brandi because Brandi's trashiness reminds her of her own past, which she's trying to rise above so she can be this fancy, charitable society lady. 

[Nancybeth]

1 hour ago, Panda Bear said:

I have seen absolutely no evidence of this on the show. I can believe that LeeAnne is envious of Kameron and D'Andra, with their money and social connections, but when has she ever shown any interest in having children? She also seems to have a happy relationship with Rich, with or without a marriage certificate. I think LeeAnne actually looks down on Brandi because Brandi's trashiness reminds her of her own past, which she's trying to rise above so she can be this fancy, charitable society lady. 

 

I actually kind of think it's a combination of the two -- LeeAnne is dismayed by Brandi's trashiness BECAUSE she's envious of Brandi's money.  I do agree that LeeAnne seems to go after her disproportionately.  Brandi has one thing that LeeAnne doesnt...$$$.  She doesn't think that Brandi deserves it or lives up to it.  

[Duke2801]

On 11/20/2018 at 3:11 PM, Panda Bear said:

I have seen absolutely no evidence of this on the show. I can believe that LeeAnne is envious of Kameron and D'Andra, with their money and social connections, but when has she ever shown any interest in having children? She also seems to have a happy relationship with Rich, with or without a marriage certificate. I think LeeAnne actually looks down on Brandi because Brandi's trashiness reminds her of her own past, which she's trying to rise above so she can be this fancy, charitable society lady. 

Exactly. Believe it or not, not every woman has the desire to spawn. And even if they did, any time spent with (or hell just watching) entitled brats like Brandi’s girls might give them serious reconsideration. 

And Rich is considerably more attractive than derpy- looking Bryan. And Bryan barely seems to tolerate Brandi. So yea... not seeing any jealousy happening there.